'04 Golf MK5, Several malfunctions. Windows, brake light switch, modules...etc.

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Hi,

I'm checking my grandmother's Golf MK 5.

There are several problems that I know about:
1. Front wipers don't work. Ordered new motor.
2. Windows are not able to open/close. Don't know why..
3. Brake light is not working. Is it possible to test the sensor?

But it seems to be more problems as well according to VAGCOM.
It seems to be a problem with the comunication to several modules, what is the best way to troubleshoot?

I'm very thankfull for all help!

BR Jorn

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Tuesday,11,November,2014,21:09:42:15915
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator
VCDS Version: 14.10.0.0 (x64)
Data version: 20141022


VIN: WVWZZZ1KZ4W118524   License Plate: 
Mileage: 106710km-66306mi   Repair Order: 



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Chassis Type: 1K (1K0)
Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 42 44 46 52 56 62 72

VIN: WVWZZZ1KZ4W118524   Mileage: 106710km-66306miles

00-Steering Angle Sensor -- Status: OK 0000
01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: Malfunction 0010
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
 
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Address 01: Engine        Labels: 036-906-032-AXP.lbl
   Part No SW: 036 906 032 AG    HW: xxxxxxxxxxx 
   Component: BOSCH ME7.5.10      5612  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: VWZ7Z0D9456574
   Coding: 0000071
   Shop #: WSC 01392 785 00200
   VCID: 55A1AA8EFC3F7D896CD-8000

No fault code found.
Readiness: 1110 0101

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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK70.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 907 379 N
   Component: ASR FRONT MK70      0103  
   Coding: 0017025
   Shop #: WSC 01392 785 00200
   VCID: 3D71122E644F85C944D-8068

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 1K0-820-047.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 820 047 CC
   Component: Climatic PQ35   080 0201  
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 67DD90465653FF19CE1-8032

4 Faults Found:
01299 - Diagnostic Interface for Data Bus (J533) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
01317 - Control Module in Instrument Cluster (J285) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
01316 - ABS Control Module 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
01314 - Engine Control Module 
            004 - No Signal/Communication

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Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels: 3C0-937-049-23-M.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 937 049 K    HW: 1K0 937 049 K*
   Component: Bordnetz-SG 1.0 H30 0701  
   Revision: 00030000    Serial number: 00000000560429
   Coding: 088F8F0600041800001400001400000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 377D00064673AF999E1-8062

   Subsystem 1 - Component: Fehler Lin-Slave 01 

4 Faults Found:
02071 - Local Databus 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
00918 - Terminal 31 
            011 - Open Circuit
00526 - Brake Light Switch (F) 
            008 - Implausible Signal
00576 - Terminal 15 
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit

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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 1K0-909-605.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 909 605 A    HW: 1K0 909 605 A
   Component: 0L AIRBAG VW8   022 0500  
   Revision: 04022000    Serial number: 0033FD0A219D  
   Coding: 0012364
   Shop #: WSC 01371 785 00200
   VCID: 2A5B297285C1027111F-807F

   Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 6332MSME7C644402 

   Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6342MSME01744402 

   Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6351HSME10176901 

   Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6361HSME514C7201 

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 953 549     HW: 1K0 953 549 
   Component: Lenksäulenmodul 012 0030  
   Coding: 0000002
   Shop #: WSC 01392 785 00200
   VCID: 6FEDF8667EA32759861-803A

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-17.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 920 850 P
   Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT VDD 3556  
   Coding: 0005101
   Shop #: WSC 00011 888 96745
   VCID: 3467370A57054481BB3-8061

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-17.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 920 850 P
   Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT VDD 3556  
   Coding: 0005101
   Shop #: WSC 00011 888 96745
   VCID: 3467370A57054481BB3-8061

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels: 1K0-907-530-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 C    HW: 1K0 907 951 
   Component: Gateway         H08 0080  
   Revision: 08          Serial number: 26001042280058
   Coding: 3D3F0340070002
   Shop #: WSC 01392 785 00200
   VCID: 275DD04696D33F190E1-8072

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No: 1K0 920 850 P
   Component: IMMO                3556  
   Shop #: WSC 00220 218 16467
   VCID: 3467370A57054481BB3-8061

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver
Cannot be reached

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1Kx-909-14x-44.clb
   Part No: 1K1 909 144 F
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.0       1301  
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 2E532562B9296E51CD7-807B

1 Fault Found:
00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85) 
            000 -  - 

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Address 46: Central Conv.
Cannot be reached

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.
Cannot be reached

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Address 56: Radio
Cannot be reached

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Address 62: Door, Rear Left
Cannot be reached

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Address 72: Door, Rear Right
Cannot be reached

End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 01:51)--------------------------
 
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Bad Convenience CAN bus?

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Uwe said:
Bad Convenience CAN bus?

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Hi Uwe,

Do you have some further information, I'm not that experienced.. ;)

BR Jorn
 
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Can bus, like a internet in car, but with many networks and one can gateway(router) to handle traffic.. Ie convience can, drivetrain ie.... .
Seem like some module or wire is broken so traffic cannot occur on one network.
 
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golfi_vend said:
Can bus, like a internet in car, but with many networks and one can gateway(router) to handle traffic.. Ie convience can, drivetrain ie.... .
Seem like some module or wire is broken so traffic cannot occur on one network.
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Hi,
I have some basic knowledge regarding bus communication.

What I need are some hints for how to troubleshoot.
Is there a place where I can find info regardring CAN BUS and how to trouble shoot, diagrams etc.

Appreciate your help so far!

BR Jorn
 
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Your car has several CAN bus networks in it. One for the powertrain, one for the convenience systems, once for infotainment, etc. The Gateway acts as a router between them.

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Uwe said:
Your car has several CAN bus networks in it. One for the powertrain, one for the convenience systems, once for infotainment, etc. The Gateway acts as a router between them.

-Uwe-
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I understand.
How should I start to troubleshoot?
Check cable connections etc?

I have tried to find electrical diagrams for Golf MK5, so far without any luck.

BR Jorn
 
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Hi,

Thank you for the link!

I have investigated even more, and it seems that problem is a visit of......a cable eating mouse!! ;) ;)
I shall replace and do some soldering of cables, and hopefully I have fixed most of the problems.. :)

BR Jorn
 
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Sometimes I think VWAG puts rodent-attracting pheromones in their wiring harnesses. ;)

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Hi Jorn, I see you joined the forum on 10-19-2014 and registered with us directly on 10-22-2014 so we need to switch your Junior Member status to Verified. After we do that you will be able to post in the Car Repair (and similar) sub-forums.

P.S. MVBs 125 and up may be helpful after repairing CAN wiring. You can use those groups in just about any control module but I would focus on address 19-CAN Gateway.
 
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