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    2005 4f A6

    I got to park on the highway for 3 hours this past Thursday and various pats of the car has been acting up ever since. Most notably the nav/radio gets stuck on the boot up screen.

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    Sunday,25,November,2018,20:58:36:25460
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x64
    VCDS Version: 18.9.0.2 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4441.4
    Data version: 20180927 DS296.0
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    VIN: WAUDG74F35N105658   License Plate: 4F 2005
    Mileage: 100540km-62472mi   Repair Order: 
    
    
    
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    Chassis Type: 4F (4F0)
    Scan: 01 02 03 05 07 08 09 0E 0F 15 16 17 19 36 37 42 46 47 4F 52
              53 55 56 61 62 67 72 77
    
    VIN: WAUDG74F35N105658   Mileage: 100540km-62472miles
    
    00-Steering Angle Sensor -- Status: OK 0000
    01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
    02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
    05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    07-Control Head -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
    0E-Media Player 1 -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    0F-Digital Radio -- Status: OK 0000
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
    25-Immobilizer -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    36-Seat Mem. Drvr -- Status: OK 0000
    37-Navigation -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
    46-Central Conv. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
    4F-Centr. Electr. II -- Status: OK 0000
    52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
    53-Parking Brake -- Status: OK 0000
    55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000
    56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
    61-Battery Regul. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
    67-Voice Control -- Status: OK 0000
    72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
    77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000
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    Address 01: Engine (AUK)       Labels:. 06E-910-559-BKH.clb
       Part No SW: 4F1 910 559 B    HW: 4F1 907 559 A
       Component: 3.2l V6 FSI         0050  
       Revision: --H15---    Serial number:               
       Coding: 01050106190F0120
       Shop #: WSC 12345 123 123456
       VCID: 2A0E08C3E0F91E17E01-807E
    
    No fault code found.
    Readiness: 0000 0000
    
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    Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 09L-927-760.lbl
       Part No SW: 4F1 910 156 H    HW: 09L 927 156 
       Component: AG6 09L 3.2 FSI USA 0020  
       Revision: --H01---    Serial number:        4006305
       Coding: 0000002
       Shop #: WSC 02327 785 00200
       VCID: 290CF7CFE5FF150FE9B-807C
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 4F0-910-517.lbl
       Part No SW: 4F0 910 517 L    HW: 4F0 614 517 L
       Component: ESP 8.0 quattro H03 0090  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 00000000000000
       Coding: 0020895
       Shop #: WSC 02327 785 00200
       VCID: 2D0403DFD117092F053-8078
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 05: Acc/Start Auth.        Labels:. 4F0-910-852.clb
       Part No SW: 4F0 910 852     HW: 4F0 905 852 B
       Component: FBSAUDIC6 ELV   H30 0210  
       Revision: 27120501    Serial number: 10600300127140
       Coding: 0000015
       Shop #: WSC 03743 444 20474
       VCID: 6390A5E7C7538F5FE37-8036
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4F0 910 131 L
       Component: FBSAUDIC6 EZS   H43 0070
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No: 4F0 910 335 
       Component: FBSAUDIC6 KSG   H26 0080
    
    1 Fault Found:
    00955 - Key 1 
                002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00110010
                        Fault Priority: 3
                        Fault Frequency: 6
                        Reset counter: 144
                        Mileage: 89110 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2018.03.06
                        Time: 16:26:56
    
    
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    Address 07: Control Head        Labels: 4F0-910-7xx-07-H.clb
       Part No SW: 4F0 910 731 T    HW: 4E0 035 729 
       Component: Interfacebox    H43 3360  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 360BL057519740
       Coding: 0000003
       Shop #: WSC 02335 785 00200
       VCID: 333015A737335FDF537-8066
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4F0 910 609 B
       Component: Bedienteil MMIC6H07 0010
    
       Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 00000000114429
    
       Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 0122.02.050000000100010688ÿ
    
       Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 010688ÿ
    
    1 Fault Found:
    00384 - Optical Databus 
                011 - Open Circuit - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00101011
                        Fault Priority: 5
                        Fault Frequency: 2
                        Reset counter: 40
                        Mileage: 92866 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2018.05.09
                        Time: 08:11:44
    
    
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    Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 4F0-910-043.clb
       Part No SW: 4F0 910 043     HW: 4F1 820 043 J
       Component: KLIMABETAETIGUNGH11 0150  
       Revision: 00000026    Serial number: 00000000119115
       Coding: 0524326
       Shop #: WSC 02327 785 00200
       VCID: 5BE09D07FF23B79FAB7-800E
    
    1 Fault Found:
    01592 - Air Quality Sensor (G238) 
                010 - Open or Short to Plus
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01101010
                        Fault Priority: 3
                        Fault Frequency: 160
                        Reset counter: 192
                        Mileage: 93406 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2018.08.19
                        Time: 15:30:07
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Temperature: 29.0°C
    
    
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    Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels: 4F0-910-279.lbl
       Part No SW: 4F0 910 279 D    HW: 4F0 907 279 
       Component: ILM Fahrer      H14 0190  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 4F0907279     
       Coding: 0013123
       Shop #: WSC 03763 444 58363
       VCID: 2A0E08C3E0F91E17E01-807E
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4F1 910 113   Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
       Component: Wischer AudiC6  H05 0150  
       Coding: 00064784
       Shop #: WSC 03763  
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No: 4E0 910 557   Labels: 8K0-955-559.CLB
       Component: REGENLICHTSENSORH10 0050  
       Coding: 00141886
       Shop #: WSC 03763  
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 0E: Media Player 1        Labels: 4E0-910-111.lbl
       Part No SW: 4E0 910 111 F    HW: 4E0 035 111 A
       Component: CD-Changer      H44 0470  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: AUZ5ZBE7125079
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 1C62DE1BBAADF0A762D-8048
    
    1 Fault Found:
    02261 - Data Medium 
                014 - Defective
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01101110
                        Fault Priority: 7
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 0
                        Time Indication: 0
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Text: 00000000
    
    
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    Address 0F: Digital Radio        Labels: 4E0-910-593-XM.lbl
       Part No SW: 4E0 910 593 G    HW: 4E0 035 593 C
       Component: SDAR XM         H04 0670  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: AUZ4Z7D2021085
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 2B000DC7EF03071F1B7-807E
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 4F0-910-655-8R.clb
       Part No SW: 4F0 910 655 B    HW: 4F0 959 655 A
       Component: 56 AIRBAG AUDI8RH29 0230  
       Revision: 10H29000    Serial number: 00359D089J1O  
       Coding: 0013622
       Shop #: WSC 02327 785 00200
       VCID: 2616FCF3F4E13A77C49-8072
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4F0 910 339 
       Component: BF-Gewichtsens. 002 0040
    
       Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6332CSME09146C452
    
       Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6342CSME08721227Y
    
       Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6351HSME063F0106+
    
       Subsystem 5 - Serial number: 6361HSME0630676EA
    
       Subsystem 6 - Serial number: 6371VSME06295631F
    
       Subsystem 7 - Serial number: 6381VSME06290761F
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 4F0-910-549.lbl
       Part No SW: 4F0 910 549     HW: 4F0 953 549 A
       Component: Lenksäulenmodul H07 0230  
       Revision: 00H07000    Serial number: 90025050480214
       Coding: 0002041
       Shop #: WSC 02323 785 00200
       VCID: 6696BCF33461FA77049-8032
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX 
       Component: Lenkradmodul    H06 0080
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 4F0-910-xxx-17.lbl
       Part No SW: 4F0 910 900 A    HW: 4F0 920 950 M
       Component: KOMBIINSTR. M73 H10 0670  
       Revision: 00500000    Serial number: 4R853ZR25     
       Coding: 0065201
       Shop #: WSC 06485 067 57207
       VCID: 1E66D413ACB1E2B78C9-804A
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels:. 4F0-910-468.clb
       Part No SW: 4F0 910 468 A    HW: 4F0 907 468 B
       Component: Gateway         H09 0030  
       Revision: 09          Serial number: 080080521900E6
       Coding: 6CFE73CC1B7904
       Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
       VCID: 2708F1F7F3EB237FFFF-8072
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 36: Seat Mem. Drvr        Labels: None
       Part No SW: 4F0 910 760     HW: 4F0 959 760 
       Component: Sitzmemory FS   H04 0050  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 00000000896400
       Coding: 0082954
       Shop #: WSC 02325 785 00200
       VCID: 619CAFEFDD4F9D4FF1B-8034
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 37: Navigation        Labels: 4E0-910-88x-37.lbl
       Part No SW: 4E0 910 888 M    HW: 4E0 919 887 C
       Component: MNS US          H44 1100  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 378BU057517436
       Shop #: WSC 03743 444 20474
       VCID: 382A228B2E55BC87665-806C
    
    2 Faults Found:
    02261 - Data Medium 
                014 - Defective - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00101110
                        Fault Priority: 7
                        Fault Frequency: 24
                        Reset counter: 220
                        Mileage: 91505 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2018.04.22
                        Time: 17:18:09
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Hex Value: 0x5BED
                        Hex Value: 0x4CC0
                        Hex Value: 0x0000
                        Hex Value: 0xFD1E
    
    02927 - DVD Read Error 
                000 -  -  - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00100000
                        Fault Priority: 6
                        Fault Frequency: 64
                        Reset counter: 232
                        Mileage: 78816 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2017.08.19
                        Time: 18:58:31
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Hex Value: 0x5BFA
                        Hex Value: 0x8D3C
                        Hex Value: 0x0401
                        Hex Value: 0x0000
    
    
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    Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels: 4F0-910-793-42.lbl
       Part No SW: 4F0 910 793 B    HW: 4F0 959 793 B
       Component: TSG FA          H11 0040  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: V‡G
       Coding: 0051947
       Shop #: WSC 02327 785 00200
       VCID: 290CF7CFE5FF150FE9B-807C
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels:. 4F0-910-289.lbl
       Part No SW: 4F0 910 289 E    HW: 4F0 907 289 E
       Component: Komfortgeraet   H15 0100  
       Revision: 01000015    Serial number: 01002940220000
       Coding: 0424253
       Shop #: WSC 02335 785 00200
       VCID: 2C020EDBEA0D002712D-8078
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
       Component: LIN BACKUP HORN H02 1301
    
    1 Fault Found:
    01502 - Bulb for Rear Fog; Left (L46) 
                009 - Open or Short to Ground
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01101001
                        Fault Priority: 3
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 101
                        Mileage: 92899 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2018.05.16
                        Time: 16:40:13
    
    
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    Address 47: Sound System        Labels: 4F0-910-223-BO.lbl
       Part No SW: 4F5 910 223 D    HW: 4F5 035 223 E
       Component: DSP-High C6     H14 0310  
       Revision: PROD_01     Serial number: 00000000025340
       Coding: 0000026
       Shop #: WSC 02327 785 00200
       VCID: 2412E6FB82DDC867DAD-8070
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 4F: Centr. Electr. II        Labels: 4F0-910-280.lbl
       Part No SW: 4F0 910 280     HW: 4F0 907 280 A
       Component: ILM Beifahrer   H09 0050  
       Revision:             Serial number: 00000000070724
       Coding: 0001114
       Shop #: WSC 02323 785 00200
       VCID: 5EE69413EC31A2B7CC9-800A
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels: 4F0-910-793-52.lbl
       Part No SW: 4F0 910 793 B    HW: 4F0 959 792 B
       Component: TSG BF          H11 0040  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: ƒE
       Coding: 0051947
       Shop #: WSC 02327 785 00200
       VCID: 290CF7CFE5FF150FE9B-807C
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 53: Parking Brake        Labels: 4F0-910-801.clb
       Part No SW: 4F0 910 801     HW: 4F0 907 801 
       Component: EPB  C63C0030   H03 0030  
       Revision: C63C0030    
       Coding: 0005022
       Shop #: WSC 02334 785 00200
       VCID: 5DE4931FE137B9AFD53-8008
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 55: Headlight Range        Labels: 4F0-910-357.lbl
       Part No SW: 4F0 910 357 E    HW: 4F0 907 357 E
       Component: AFS 1           H01 0010  
       Revision: 00000001    Serial number:               
       Coding: 0000016
       Shop #: WSC 03743 444 78366
       VCID: 280AF2CBFEF52C07F65-807C
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4F0 941 329 A
       Component: AFS-Modul links H05 0010
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No: 4F0 941 329 A
       Component: AFS-Modul rechtsH05 0010
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 56: Radio        Labels: 4E0-910-541.lbl
       Part No SW: 4E0 910 541 Q    HW: 4F0 035 541 B
       Component: TUNER EU/US/RDW H42 0620  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 394BM057520850
       Coding: 0000002
       Shop #: WSC 02327 785 00200
       VCID: 2E0604D3DC1172373C9-807A
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 61: Battery Regul.        Labels: 4F0-910-181.lbl
       Part No SW: 4F0 910 181 E    HW: 4F0 915 181 A
       Component: ENERGIEMANAGER  H12 0490  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 00000000024866
       Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
       VCID: 2310E5E787D3CF5FA37-8076
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 000 915 105 DK
       Component: von VA0  020627R0Z5       
       Coding: 303030393135313035444B56413030323036323752305A35
       Shop #: WSC 54332 321 22222
    
    4 Faults Found:
    02273 - Quiescent Current Stage 2 
                000 -  -  - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00100000
                        Fault Priority: 7
                        Fault Frequency: 5
                        Reset counter: 255
                        Mileage: 80212 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2017.09.11
                        Time: 19:26:18
    
    02276 - Quiescent Current Stage 5 
                000 -  -  - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00100000
                        Fault Priority: 7
                        Fault Frequency: 3
                        Reset counter: 255
                        Mileage: 80212 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2017.09.13
                        Time: 06:37:24
    
    02274 - Quiescent Current Stage 3 
                000 -  -  - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00100000
                        Fault Priority: 7
                        Fault Frequency: 3
                        Reset counter: 255
                        Mileage: 80212 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2017.09.13
                        Time: 06:37:36
    
    02277 - Quiescent Current Stage 6 
                000 -  -  - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00100000
                        Fault Priority: 7
                        Fault Frequency: 3
                        Reset counter: 255
                        Mileage: 80212 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2017.09.13
                        Time: 06:37:46
    
    
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    Address 62: Door, Rear Left        Labels: 4F0-910-795.lbl
       Part No SW: 4F0 910 795     HW: 4F0 959 795 
       Component: TSG HL          H11 0030  
       Coding: 0051754
       Shop #: WSC 02327 785 00200
       VCID: 698CB7CF257FD50F29B-803C
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 67: Voice Control        Labels: 4E0-910-75x-67.lbl
       Part No SW: 4E0 910 754 Q    HW: 4E0 035 753 A
       Component: SDS 3501 US     H45 0630  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 00000502160018
       Shop #: WSC 12336 024 394758
       VCID: 343216BB323D58E74AD-8060
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 72: Door, Rear Right        Labels: 4F0-910-795.lbl
       Part No SW: 4F0 910 795     HW: 4F0 959 794 
       Component: TSG HR          H11 0030  
       Coding: 0051754
       Shop #: WSC 02327 785 00200
       VCID: 698CB7CF257FD50F29B-803C
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 77: Telephone        Labels: 4E0-910-336.lbl
       Part No SW: 4F0 910 336 D    HW: 4E0 862 335 
       Component: Handyvorb2      H10 0700  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 00000007516826
       Coding: 0010900
       Shop #: WSC 02335 785 00200
       VCID: 2412E6FB82DDC867DAD-8070
    
    No fault code found.
    
    End----------(Elapsed Time: 01:50, VBatt start/end: 13.9V/14.0V)-----------

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    Hmm, nothing super-obvious there. The DVD and (I think) Data Medium faults have been around for a really long time.

    The thing that I don't remember seeing in this car before is the Optical Databus fault in the Control Head.

    The Battery Regulation faults are also not unusual for this car.

    Please go clear all faults from the car, then cycle the ignition and let's see what comes back.

    -Uwe-
    The engineering problems are likely insurmountable. It would be like proposing to land a rocket booster section on a barge floating in the middle of the ocean.

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    Ms. Master Katie,

    Key battery weak or antenna ?
    Any blown fuses?
    What is age of battery?
    0x07 & 0x0E maybe time to swap out.

    Hey Uwe, you might find benefit if a capacitor bank installed in this thing , in addition to battery + solar charger.

    I agree clear codes.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katie Ross View Post
    I got to park on the highway for 3 hours this past Thursday
    Define "got to park on the highway". Chilling out in a traffic jam, or the car broke down in some way, or...?

    Quote Originally Posted by Katie Ross View Post
    and various pats of the car has been acting up ever since.
    Can you describe the other various misbehavior? There's not too much happening in this scan beyond the radio/nav unit.

    There's a complaint of a rear fog light out. Rear fog lights don't exist in NAR. Did you or your Dad put a Euro light switch in it? That's a semi-popular retrofit.

    The quiescent current faults may indicate the car has trouble going to sleep, or could be as simple as a high-draw cell phone charger left plugged in.

    The air quality sensor thing wouldn't create any driver perceptible problems, other than HVAC won't go into auto recirc mode if someone is rolling coal in front of you.

    Quote Originally Posted by Katie Ross View Post
    Most notably the nav/radio gets stuck on the boot up screen.
    The nav unit seems pretty sad. There are lots of high-frequency faults trying to read from the nav data DVD.

    As a diagnostic, try ejecting the maps DVD and see how it behaves. You wouldn't have navigation, but it would tell you if the startup hang is due to trouble reading map data from disc. I know my Phaeton infotainment unit gets twitchy when its partner navigation computer is jammed up, complete with similar optical databus faults.
    Silence gives consent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jyoung8607 View Post
    Define "got to park on the highway". Chilling out in a traffic jam, or the car broke down in some way, or...?
    Traffic jam. NE Extension of the PA Turnpike, only about 6 miles from her exit. She started and ran it intermittently to stay warm.

    Quote Originally Posted by jyoung8607 View Post
    There's a complaint of a rear fog light out. Rear fog lights don't exist in NAR. Did you or your Dad put a Euro light switch in it? That's a semi-popular retrofit.
    No, I don't recall us retrofitting anything in this car, and we've owned it since new. Not sure what's up with that.

    Quote Originally Posted by jyoung8607 View Post
    The nav unit seems pretty sad. There are lots of high-frequency faults trying to read from the nav data DVD.
    Yeah, the Nav itself has been out-of-service for a while due to that. The data on the DVD is woefully outdated anyway, and Google Maps/Nav on her phone is a more than capable substitute.

    Quote Originally Posted by jyoung8607 View Post
    As a diagnostic, try ejecting the maps DVD and see how it behaves. You wouldn't have navigation, but it would tell you if the startup hang is due to trouble reading map data from disc. I know my Phaeton infotainment unit gets twitchy when its partner navigation computer is jammed up, complete with similar optical databus faults.
    I like that idea!

    -Uwe-
    The engineering problems are likely insurmountable. It would be like proposing to land a rocket booster section on a barge floating in the middle of the ocean.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack@European_Parts View Post
    Key battery weak or antenna ?
    Any blown fuses?
    What is age of battery?
    0x07 & 0x0E maybe time to swap out.
    Key battery maybe. No worries about that though.

    I'm not seeing anything I would take as indicative of blown fuses. What makes you ask that?

    I just checked my records. The main battery is just a tad over five years old now. The original one lasted over eight years despite a lot of abuse. Right now, the car tends to get driven 200 miles at a pop (Lansdale to PSU or back) and then parked for a week or so. But FWIW, we stuck it in the garage for a session with the Xantrex this evening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uwe View Post
    Yeah, the Nav itself has been out-of-service for a while due to that. The data on the DVD is woefully outdated anyway, and Google Maps/Nav on her phone is a more than capable substitute.
    My Phaeton knows those feels.

    Quote Originally Posted by Uwe View Post
    Traffic jam. NE Extension of the PA Turnpike, only about 6 miles from her exit. She started and ran it intermittently to stay warm.
    Derp. I had mentally placed this car in a warmer climate, even though I've gotten the full Ross fleet allocation briefing...

    Quote Originally Posted by Uwe View Post
    I just checked my records. The main battery is just a tad over five years old now. The original one lasted over eight years despite a lot of abuse. Right now, the car tends to get driven 200 miles at a pop (Lansdale to PSU or back) and then parked for a week or so. But FWIW, we stuck it in the garage for a session with the Xantrex this evening.
    A quick snoop of Weather Underground temperature history for (ass-u-ming) University Park, PA shows a particularly nasty cold snap on Thursday the 22nd, the night of the fateful drive. That won't have done the battery electrolyte or nav computer any particular good. Just as a further anecdote, extreme cold often creates some trouble with my Phaeton's aging disc-based navigation computer, although it's possible that traces right back to low system voltage.

    For a car that's infrequently driven, history of quiescent current faults, five year old battery, acting up after recent deep freeze-thaw cycling... I'd think about a battery for preventive maintenance. But it isn't my current first thought for a recurrent nav bootup issue when the car is otherwise working and able to start. I'd still like clarity on "various parts of the car has been acting up" other than its nav.
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    I'm not seeing anything I would take as indicative of blown fuses. What makes you ask that?



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    Fault Priority: 5
    Fault Frequency: 2
    Reset counter: 40
    Mileage: 92866 km
    Time Indication: 0
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    Time: 08:11:44
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    Quote Originally Posted by jyoung8607 View Post
    I'd still like clarity on "various parts of the car has been acting up" other than its nav.
    She'll have to answer that one herself.

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    The sun roof wouldn't open a couple days ago, (I was trying to open it to let loose some leaves that were causing a rattling noise) that's the thing that sticks out in my mind the most. It feels like random things just decide not to work. The trunk switch in the driver's seat hasn't worked since I got the car.

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