Golf 7 DQ250 to DQ500

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Hello guys! I have the same problem on my 2015 VW Golf 7R after performing a DSG swap from DQ250 to DQ500.
I have the following ABS error code, among others: 8299 - Databus U1121 00 [009] - Missing Message [FCAN: Anhaenger_01_alt veraltet bit is set].
The big problem is that after the swap, the gearbox engages and drives away at around 1600 rpms. In any gear, it only engages above 1600 rpm, and below 1600 rpms it is slipping the clutches excessively causing premature clutch damage and wearing them out.
I hope that this could be the problem and I would be able to address it with your help, so any info would be more than welcome and I thank you for it in advance!
Also, please excuse me if I make some mistakes as I am a VCDS and forum newbie and don't even know how to correctly post the scan log code, but I indicated it in the below post. Thank you!
 
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Code:
Tuesday,13,November,2018,22:03:58:34744
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x64
VCDS Version: 18.9.0.2 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4436.4
Data version: 20180927 DS296.0
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN:    License Plate: 
Mileage: 14870km-9239mi   Repair Order: 



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Chassis Type: AU-VW37 (5Q0)
Scan: 01 02 03 05 08 09 10 13 14 15 16 17 19 22 2B 3C 42 44 47 52
          55 5F A5 A9

VIN:    Mileage: 14870km-9239miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
13-Auto Dist. Reg -- Status: OK 0000
14-Susp. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
22-AWD -- Status: OK 0000
2B-Steer. Col. Lock -- Status: OK 0000
3C-Lane Change -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
47-Sound System -- Status: Malfunction 0010
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000
5F-Information Electr. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
A5-Frt Sens. Drv. Assist -- Status: Malfunction 0010
A9-Struct. Borne Sound -- Status: OK 0000
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Address 01: Engine (J623-CJXC)       Labels:. 06K-907-425-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 5G0 906 259 F    HW: 06K 907 425 B
   Component: 2.0l R4 TFSI  H13 0002  
   Revision: --H13---    
   Coding: 091D00122466050B3004
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM20TFS0205G0906259F 001004
   ROD: EV_ECM20TFS0205G0906259F.rod
   VCID: 313C1C4961A1210F21B-8064

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0010 0001

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Address 02: Auto Trans (J743)       Labels:. 0BH-927-711.clb
   Part No SW: 0DL 300 012 H    HW: 0GC 927 711 G
   Component: GSG DQ500     H06 2110  
   Revision: 00H06V07    
   Coding: 0014
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_TCMDQ500021 001001
   ROD: EV_TCMDQ500021.rod
   VCID: 2E060735709F3EF73C9-807A

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels: 5Q0-907-379-IPB-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 3Q0 907 379 AB    HW: 3Q0 907 379 G
   Component: ESC           H42 0723  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 62155000001290
   Coding: 01FA6BA15420296D077E070541CA6980D62A94E0E08296F7184250F8C288
   Shop #: WSC 42948 002 104857
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Brake1UDSContiMK100IPB 034036
   ROD: EV_Brake1UDSContiMK100IPB_034_VW37.rod
   VCID: 7AAEFB65FC572257D01-802E

1 Fault Found:
8299 - Databus 
          U1121 00 [009] - Missing Message
          [FCAN: Anhaenger_01_alt veraltet bit is set]
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 83
                    Mileage: 14870 km
                    Date: 2018.11.13
                    Time: 21:44:31


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Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. (J518)       Labels:| 5Q0-959-435.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 959 435 A    HW: 5Q0 959 435 
   Component: VWKESSYMQB    021 0604  
   Revision: 00021000    Serial number: 0376565716
   Coding: 030C0C
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_KessyHellaMQBAB 002011
   ROD: EV_KessyHellaMQBAB_002.rod
   VCID: 3A2E3B65BCD7E257901-806E

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels:| 5G0-907-044.clb
   Part No SW: 5G0 907 044 BD    HW: 5G0 907 044 BD
   Component: Climatronic   H03 1001  
   Revision: 00001K08    
   Coding: 00020014200100011105000000101002
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ACClimaBHBVW37X 004131
   ROD: EV_ACClimaBHBVW37X_004_VW37.rod
   VCID: 6A8ECB258CF792D7201-803E

   Fresh Air Blower Front: 

   Refrigerant Pressure And Temperature Sender: 

   Air quality sensor: 

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:| 5Q0-937-08X-HV1.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 937 084 AS    HW: 5Q0 937 084 AN
   Component: BCM MQBAB H   H24 0175  
   Serial number: 01061523000747
   Coding: 00111E46C24122F30BA44080B10407281800000000000000000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 61029
   ASAM Dataset: EV_BCMMQB 015001
   ROD: EV_BCMBOSCH_015.rod
   VCID: 094C94A9A9B139CFC9B-805C

   Control Unit For Wiper Motor: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5G1 955 119 A    HW: 5G1 955 119 A  Labels: 5QX-955-119-V1.CLB
   Component: WWS    150715  043 0551 
   Serial number:         150811163729
   Coding: 0E4DDD

   Rain Light Recognition Sensor: 
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5Q0 955 547 A    HW: 5Q0 955 547 A  Labels: 5Q0-955-547.CLB
   Component: RLHS  037 0059 
   Serial number: S4Y15M08D27H14M52S33
   Coding: 90A8DD

   Sensor For Anti Theft Alarm System: 
   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 5Q0 951 172     HW: 5Q0 951 172 
   Component: Sensor, DWA  006 0326 
   Serial number: 000000000ZY151880WNS

   Alarm horn: 
   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 5Q0 951 605     HW: 5Q0 951 605 
   Component: Sirene, DWA  004 0311 
   Serial number: 00000000000033180258

   Sun Roof: 
   Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: 8V3 959 591 A    HW: 8V3 959 591 A
   Component: J245 PS73.403  H03 0004 
   Serial number: 0000FST000GEHQ100000
   Coding: 181801

No fault code found.

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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446)       Labels:| 5Q0-919-294.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 919 294 K    HW: 5Q0 919 294 A
   Component: PARKHILFE 8K  H03 0054  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 39331523901073
   Coding: 0071155011
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_EPHVA18AU3700000 002026
   ROD: EV_EPHVA18AU3700000_002_VW37.rod
   VCID: 43D04681CB1DA39FC37-8016

No fault code found.

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Address 13: Auto Dist. Reg (J428)       Labels:| 5Q0-907-572-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 907 572 F    HW: 5Q0 907 572 F
   Component: ACC Bosch MQB H05 0400  
   Serial number: 21071503212754
   Coding: 001C1700FE0739
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ACCMRRBoschVW372 001016
   ROD: EV_ACCMRRBoschVW372_VW26.rod
   VCID: 3A2E3B65BCD7E257901-806E

No fault code found.

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Address 14: Susp. Elect. (J250)       Labels: 5Q0-907-376.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 907 376 A    HW: 5Q0 907 376 A
   Component: DAEMPFUNGS-SG H16 0120  
   Serial number: 31071541350413
   ASAM Dataset: EV_DRCONTITEMIC 001019
   ROD: EV_DRCONTITEMIC_VW37.rod
   VCID: 372822518FC5FF3F6FF-8062

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 5Q0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 959 655 D    HW: 5Q0 959 655 D
   Component: AirbagVW20    015 0388  
   Serial number: 003F6R10FXX4
   Coding: 98CCC000000000005C0000CF004800000065
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW20SMEVW37X 002130
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW20SMEVW37X.rod
   VCID: 41DC4C89D101B18FD1B-8014

   Side Sensor Driver Front: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 001 008 15
   Component: SideSensor_Df  001 0887 
   Serial number: 357670000005A2C4F41 
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Side Sensor Passenger Front: 
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 001 008 15
   Component: SideSensor_Pf  001 0887 
   Serial number: 358670000001E138B51U
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Side Sensor Driver Rear: 
   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 402 108 15
   Component: SideSensor_Dr  001 6149 
   Serial number: 35165029B1CF1D32E25O
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Side Sensor Passenger Rear: 
   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 401 108 15
   Component: SideSensor_Pr  001 6149 
   Serial number: 3526502B51D1B624D29F
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Front Sensor Driver: 
   Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 401 808 15
   Component: FrontSensor_D  001 6149 
   Serial number: 3556502AB1CB0C0350DI
   Coding: 2D2D2D

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels:| 5Q0-953-549.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 953 507 HN    HW: 5Q0 953 549 E
   Component: Lenks. Modul  003 0110  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 20081504221429
   Coding: 0C10
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SMLSKLOMQB 017001
   ROD: EV_SMLSKLOMQB_VW37.rod
   VCID: 094C94A9A9B139CFC9B-805C

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5G0-920-XXX-17.clb-SRI3
   Part No SW: 5G1 920 790 A    HW: 5G1 920 790 A
   Component: KOMBI         407 3193  
   Coding: 07AD7818FF8C00080186FB0B5400000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 54321 123 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB 009058
   ROD: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB_009_VW37.rod
   VCID: 290CF429497159CFE9B-807C

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:| 5Q0-907-530-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 907 530 AF    HW: 5Q0 907 530 F
   Component: GW MQB High   128 1224  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 0003844395
   Coding: 030100043F085900FB00027A9C0F00010001050000000000000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 131071 1023 2097151
   ASAM Dataset: EV_GatewLear 013020
   ROD: EV_GatewLear_013_VW37.rod
   VCID: 75B4E859D5494D2FBD3-8020

   Alternator: 

   Multi Function Steering Wheel Control Module: 
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5G0 959 442 N    HW: 5G0 959 442 N  Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
   Component: E221__MFL-DC1  H10 0040 
   Serial number: 29150001593150105333
   Coding: 2DFFFF

   Battery Monitoring Control Module: 
   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 5Q0 915 181 G    HW: 5Q0 915 181 G
   Component: J367-BDMHella  H04 8050 
   Serial number: 1911797503          

No fault code found.

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Address 22: AWD (J492)       Labels:* 0CQ-907-554.clb
   Part No SW: 0CQ 907 554 D    HW: 0CQ 525 130 
   Component: Haldex4Motion H52 7082  
   Serial number: HA1-00025.06.15
   Coding: 0001
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AllWheelContrHA1VW37X 002013
   ROD: EV_AllWheelContrHA1VW37X.rod
   VCID: 46D65F95F82F96B7E49-8012

No fault code found.

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Address 2B: Steer. Col. Lock (J764)       Labels:* 5Q0-905-861.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 905 861 A    HW: 5Q0 905 861 A
   Component: ELV-MQBA      H01 0120  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 15000182341004
   Coding: 5D00000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ELVMarquMQB 004111
   ROD: EV_ELVMarquMQB.rod
   VCID: 3432155D9EB314274AD-8060

No fault code found.

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Address 3C: Lane Change (J1086)       Labels:| 5Q0-907-686.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 907 686 B    HW: 5Q0 907 686 B
   Component: HRE_Master    H11 0071  
   Serial number: 0377252543
   Coding: 02011103
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_HREntryHella 001028
   ROD: EV_HREntryHella_VW37.rod
   VCID: 3C223D7DB6E3DC6782D-8068

   Lane Change Assistant 2: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5Q0 907 685 B    HW: 5Q0 907 685 B
   Component: HRE_Slave  H11 0071 
   Serial number: 0376464997          
   Coding: 020111

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels:| 5QX-959-X93-42.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 959 593 E    HW: 5Q0 959 593 B
   Component: TSG FS        020 0041  
   Serial number: 180815BHI12473
   Coding: 003F1220D000040000001000
   Shop #: WSC 05570 003 1048576
   ASAM Dataset: EV_DCUDriveSideEWMAXKLO 006003
   ROD: EV_DCUDriveSideEWMAXCONT.rod
   VCID: 43D04681CB1DA39FC37-8016

   Drivers Door Rear Control Module: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5Q0 959 811     HW: 5Q0 959 811   Labels: 5QX-959-81X-V1.CLB
   Component: FOND_FHSG_DRV  005 0005 
   Serial number: 00000000000006855727
   Coding: 110000

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist (J500)       Labels:| 5Q0-909-144.clb
   Part No SW: 3Q0 909 144 J    HW: 3Q0 909 144 H
   Component: EPS_MQB_ZFLS  505 5063  
   Coding: 9103
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SteerAssisMQB 012140
   ROD: EV_SteerAssisMQB_012_VW37.rod
   VCID: 392C2469B9D1E94F99B-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 47: Sound System (J525)       Labels:| 5Q0-035-456.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 035 456     HW: 5Q0 035 456 
   Component: MIB2_lite_amp H20 0110  
   Revision: 00000001    Serial number: VWZ8Z1FBA00QPJX
   Coding: 12000000008AAA8A000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AMPMst11CGen2ALPI 001003
   ROD: EV_AMPMst11CGen2ALPI.rod
   VCID: 6D84C039BD1985EF453-8038

2 Faults Found:
0572 - Loudspeaker 2 in Double-Subwoofer 
          B130D 11 [009] - Short to Ground
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 81
                    Mileage: 14835 km
                    Date: 2018.11.12
                    Time: 19:50:08

                    Voltage terminal 30: 12.3 V

0565 - Loudspeaker 1 in Double-Subwoofer 
          B130C 13 [008] - Open Circuit
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 3
                    Reset counter: 123
                    Mileage: 14835 km
                    Date: 2018.11.12
                    Time: 19:50:10

                    Voltage terminal 30: 12.3 V


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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels:| 5QX-959-X92-52.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 959 592 E    HW: 5Q0 959 592 B
   Component: TSG BFS       020 0041  
   Serial number: 220715BGM02003
   Coding: 003F1020DE00040000801000
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_DCUPasseSideEWMAXKLO 006003
   ROD: EV_DCUPasseSideEWMAXCONT.rod
   VCID: 42DE4385D407AA97C81-8016

   Passengers Rear Door Control Module: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5Q0 959 812     HW: 5Q0 959 812   Labels: 5QX-959-81X-V1.CLB
   Component: FOND_FHSG_PSG  005 0005 
   Serial number: 00000000000007133700
   Coding: 090000

No fault code found.

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Address 55: Headlight Range (J745)       Labels:| 7P6-907-357.clb
   Part No SW: 7P6 907 357 D    HW: 7P6 907 357 A
   Component: AFS-ECU       H07 0090  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: --------------
   Coding: 02A202104F010200
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_HeadlRegulVWAFSMQB 001120
   ROD: EV_HeadlRegulVWAFSMQB.rod
   VCID: 40DA498DDA0BB887DE5-8014

   Left Headlamp Power Output Stage: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 3D0 941 329 D    HW: 3D0 941 329 D  Labels: 3D0-941-329.CLB
   Component: LeiMo links  H01 0002 
   Coding: 900000

   Right Headlamp Power Output Stage: 
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 3D0 941 329 D    HW: 3D0 941 329 D  Labels: 3D0-941-329.CLB
   Component: LeiMo rechts  H01 0002 
   Coding: 900000

No fault code found.

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Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794)       Labels:| 5G0-035-MIB-HGH2.clb
   Part No SW: 3G0 035 043 B    HW: 3G0 035 043 
   Component: MU-H-N-EU     H42 0317  
   Serial number: A599G0F7535717
   Coding: 027300010000000051110002000808031F0107F401200100DF
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 61029
   ASAM Dataset: EV_MUHig4CGen2HBAS 001001
   ROD: EV_MUHig4CGen2HBAS_VW37.rod
   VCID: 1B60DEE1132DBB5F6B7-804E

   Operating And Display Unit 1: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5G0 919 606     HW: 5G0 919 606 
   Component: ABT_High  H62 0031 
   Serial number: VWZ8Z9RU302XA3      

   Data medium: 
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: V03 959 800 QR    HW: -----------
   Component: ECE 2017/2018  --- 0161 
   Serial number: --------------------

   Compact Disc Database: 
   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: V03 959 800 EG    HW: -----------
   Component: Gracenote2  --- 1011 
   Serial number: --------------------

No fault code found.

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Address A5: Frt Sens. Drv. Assist (R242)       Labels:| 5Q0-980-653.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 980 653 G    HW: 5Q0 980 653 
   Component: MQB_MFK       H06 0060  
   Serial number: 10000409245   
   Coding: 0101020001020308000400010100000100
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_MFKBoschAU370 001001
   ROD: EV_MFKBoschAU370.rod
   VCID: 3C223D7DB6E3DC6782D-8068

1 Fault Found:
1123601 - predictive route data 
          B1630 02 [008] - Signal Failure
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 121
                    Mileage: 14838 km
                    Date: 2018.11.12
                    Time: 20:15:56

                    Control Module temperature: 48 °C
                    Outside air temperature: 10.5 °C
                    Vehicle speed: 48.32 km/h
                    Voltage terminal 15: 14.1 V
                    Terminal 15 on: 518.8 s


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Address A9: Struct. Borne Sound (J869)       Labels: 4H0-907-159.clb
   Part No SW: 5G0 907 159 D    HW: 4H0 907 159 A
   Component: SAS-GEN 2     H07 0001  
   Serial number: 150722200614
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SoundActuaGen2AU64X 003010
   ROD: EV_SoundActuaGen2AU64X.rod
   VCID: 2F381A31779537FF37F-807A

No fault code found.
End----------(Elapsed Time: 02:11, VBatt start/end: 14.5V/14.4V)-----------
 
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Did you ever compare ratio gear between them ?
ECU have proper software for proper gear box , with proper ratio on each gear
people move gearbox 5 to gearbox 6 , and then ECU freaking out
Simple reason is - ECU not understand new speed according to "load" and RPM

Check if any this same ECU exist with 7 DSG, and compare SW / coding
 
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Did you ever compare ratio gear between them ?
ECU have proper software for proper gear box , with proper ratio on each gear
people move gearbox 5 to gearbox 6 , and then ECU freaking out
Simple reason is - ECU not understand new speed according to "load" and RPM

Check if any this same ECU exist with 7 DSG, and compare SW / coding
Hello! I will ask a friend of mine who has DQ500 with Golf 7 engine to check the coding and compare it to mine.
Check coding on Engine and Gearbox?
Thank you!
But any idea where does that error come from? With the trailer obsolete bit set?
 
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ECu SOFTWARE and after proper SW - coding
gearbox always have one software , and can not be change as far as I know
 
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Did you ever compare ratio gear between them ?
ECU have proper software for proper gear box , with proper ratio on each gear
people move gearbox 5 to gearbox 6 , and then ECU freaking out
Simple reason is - ECU not understand new speed according to "load" and RPM

Check if any this same ECU exist with 7 DSG, and compare SW / coding

ECu SOFTWARE and after proper SW - coding
gearbox always have one software , and can not be change as far as I know
Will compare the codings with the ones that my friend has on his Golf 7R DQ500 and start from there.
Yes, you can change gearbox software. I had upgraded software on my DQ250 and will go down the same route of updated software on the DQ500. Also, you have a counter somewhere in the Gearbox module on VCDS which shows how many successful write attempts have been performed and how many in total.
Back to the topic, still nobody does not have a clue about the error message that I am encountering with the Databus trailer obsolete?
 
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update on the topic: got rid of the above indicated error message regarding the Databus trailer obsolete message.
ABS - Adaptations - Vehicle and trailer stabilization - and disable it.
Then went into Basic settings on the Gearbox and reset everything I was able to find, and completed by doing the basic setting of transmission program in the end. Now the car engages at the same high rpms - 1500-1600 RPMs - but engages without clutch slippage.
However, it still engages at very high rpms! Tomorrow will redo the gearbox settings and road settings via ODIS - hopefully - and will come back to let you know more about the status. But for now, it is a step in the right direction.
 
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Hello everybody and Happy New Year!
Let's revive this topic a little with some status updates, and ask for your help, maybe you are able to help me, please! :)
So, the car is driving fine. No problems. Did around 4000 kms after the swap to DQ500. Almost all is well.
Currently running on standard RS3 software.
Only complaints that I have are:
- drive selector - the toggle for Eco, Comfort, Normal, Race and Individual does not work anymore (or at least the engine / gearbox setting does not work anymore) when the gearbox selector is in P (park) or N (neutral). It only works when the selector is in D (drive) or S (sport).
- despite driving in ECO mode or Normal mode, the gearbox disengages the selected gear when you take off your foot from the accelerator pedal, and re-engages when you hit the gas pedal again. This is standard ECO mode driving procedure. But it should not be performing it when the car is in Drive, but it does.

Any opinions?
Does anybody know where are the driving modes stored in VCDS?
I clearly have something wrongly coded....
Any opinions or advice would be more than welcome.

Thank you!
 
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Driving Profile Selection is handled by the Gateway (module 19) and it's a FeC/SWaP feature, nothing you can do with VCDS, need ODIS with online account. trust me I learned it the hard way when I upgraded my Gateway.

anyway, if that was the case you should have an error logged. maybe DPS is messed up because of errors somewhere else.

can you post a current autoscan? erase all DTCs first so we see what stays.
 
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If the Drive Select FEC are already restored to the gateway then you might be able to get them to work by parameterizing the gateway module using ODIS S.
I have had a similar issue with a Golf R where the Drive Select modes were there, except for the Race and Eco Profiles.
 
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Driving Profile Selection is handled by the Gateway (module 19) and it's a FeC/SWaP feature, nothing you can do with VCDS, need ODIS with online account. trust me I learned it the hard way when I upgraded my Gateway.

anyway, if that was the case you should have an error logged. maybe DPS is messed up because of errors somewhere else.

can you post a current autoscan? erase all DTCs first so we see what stays.

Hello!
I can find ODIS with Online support. That is not the problem.
Update: car has custom software installed on the TCU. Designed specifically for Golf 7R DQ500.
I no longer have any error codes (I think / I hope) :confused:
Will check again, but I usually don't have any.

Now, the driving mode selection is changed as it follows:

1) when in Park Mode, if you select Sport from Normal (for example) the idle REVs should rise from 800 to 1100 RPMs. This is NOT the case, it does not raise the idle revs, but when you put the lever in D it automatically remembers that you asked for Sport, and does all the adjustments correctly. IF you put the lever back into Park, it remembers and holds the idle REVs up, and everything is in Sport.
2) if you choose to put it back in Normal / Comfort / Eco while it is in Sport and the lever is in Park, the same behavior applies. It does nothing while it is in P, and when you move the lever to Drive, it adjusts everything correctly, and then if you put the lever back in Park, the car is in the previously chosen mode.

My main concern is a different one now:

Car is a 2015 Golf MK7R with an 2017 Audi RS3 DQ500 gearbox - facelift RS3 400.

I am running the gearbox for well over 14.000 km now, but one issue still bothers me, and I cannot find the cause of it.

Initially, when I have installed the gearbox on the car, the car would drive away from a standstill at 1500 RPMs in D - Drive mode, and at 1900 RPMs in S - Sport mode. This setting was corrected when I installed the TVS DQ500 Golf 7R RS3 software.
However, not the car engages 1st gear at the correct RPMs, however, I believe that it is engaging 2nd and 3rd still at 1500 RPMs. I am not sure about this, and nor is it so important, BUT, every time you come to a stop, or you take your foot off the accelerator pedal, when the car comes from D3 to D2, around 15 km per hour, car stars COASTING.

First of all, the RPM needle starts bouncing, up, down, up, down, and then remains down.
So, the gearbox engages, disengages, and starts coasting the car, and it will not engage again until you put your foot on the accelerator pedal.
This behavior has been noticed since first moment i installed the gearbox on the car, and it did it using the Audi standard software, and still does it using the TVS software.

The guys from the software company confirmed that this is the first time they see this problem and they do NOT have encountered this problem before on any other conversion.

Now, the funny problem is, i found a car with the same behavior, which is a BRAND NEW car. Seat Tarraco, 2019, Diesel, running DQ500 gearbox, with excessive clutch slipping, and which disengages also.

I have attached some clips here, in order to get a better understanding of what I am on about:

In this clip at 0:34 -> you can see the gearbox comes from D3 to D2, and then the needle bounces, and D2 is disengaged, and remains disengaged until I touch the accelerator again https://1drv.ms/v/s!Aprt18UeTPmJg75cKVEGAmwD0QdJWw

In this clip from 0:15 you can notice excessive slippage of the clutch car WAS IN GEAR, in S2 at all times speed was not rising. https://1drv.ms/v/s!Aprt18UeTPmJg74coSjKjwZBsO7p9w

The problem with the Tarraco was similar with mine:
if the foot was on the accelerator pedal, car would drive normally. But the foot needed to be on the gas pedal for more than 2-3 seconds.
In the clip, I was giving 1 second inputs on the gas pedal, therefore the car was slipping the clutch.

Any ideas that could help me fix this problem, would be greatly appreciated. :)
You would actually be my hero! :D

Maybe i did something wrong with the DQ500 electrical conversion?
But I believe i did not, since i do not have any error codes on the gearbox, nor do I have communication issues with the gearbox.

One more question if I may:

What is the KLine you previously indicated on the DQ250? Pin #1?
I had it on the DQ250, and on the DQ500 I did not connect it as in the conversion sheet that I had, it said "not used anymore".

I connected my gearbox as it follows, for the wire pinning:

start stop
can high
+30 20 A
+15 5A
can low
-31 GND
P/N

I did not connect, as they were stated as (not used anymore):

K-Line
Reverse Output
+30 20A (one is connected, one is not)
-31 GND (one is connected, one is not)

Since I did not have the problem with the disengaging gears before, and I now do, i am asking the question..... wouldn't this pin need to be connected to the DQ500 gearbox also?
What does the KLine pin do?

I have DQ500 from 2017 / 2018 RS3 400 - gearbox code TCR.
Thank you!
 
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