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    Question ABS, ESP issues, Help please

    Hello all. I have an Audi A6 3.0Tdi quattro (late 2006).
    The car itself is great and a joy to drive, although I am having some weird ABS/ESP issues with it.
    Sometimes the car decides to act weird and give me "Break fault, drive to nearest workshop". The ABS and ESP lights will light up, it will go away sometimes by turning the car off and on again. If not it helps to delete the fault codes manually.

    I also get, more often that the car doesn't want to start (it cranks!). It says "ESP fault, see owners manual". Here I have to find my faultcodes reader and delete the fault codes then the car starts just fine ...

    The car seems normal while driving, it is annoying that the car sometimes doesn't start. Obviously I'd llke it fixed so I have gotten the codes read. At first I got a whole lot of fault codes, after the guy deleted them and rescanned I ended up having two seperate fault codes. One of them is regarding my leftside engine mount, this I am aware on and waiting for the part. The other one is regarding to the ABS. Even though I've been searching for several days I haven't really found any clear bound answers. (I am not all that great with cars, some basic thing I can do myself tho.)

    Here are the codes (they are in swedish, the ABS code is basically the "Please check DTC Memory of Engine Controller" if I remember correctly from my own cheap scanner that is in english.

    Code:
    VCDS version: AER 15.7.4 Tändningen Windows 10 x64
    Dataversion: 20160803
    www.Ross-Tech.com
    
    måndag,29,Oktober,2018,16:43:02:33089
    
    Chassityp: 4F (4F0)
    Skanna: 01 02 03 05 07 08 09 0E 15 16 17 19 34 42 46 47 4F 52 53 55
              56 61 62 69 72 76 77
    
    VIN: WAUZZZ4F47N063886   Mätarställning: 264200km
    
    00-Givare styrvinkel -- Status: OK 0000
    01-Motor -- Status: Felfunktion 0010
    02-Automatväxel -- Status: OK 0000
    03-Bromselektronik -- Status: OK 0000
    05-Behör.kontroll -- Status: OK 0000
    07-Kontrollpanel -- Status: OK 0000
    08-Klimatanläggning -- Status: OK 0000
    09-Elektron. elcentral -- Status: OK 0000
    0E-Mediaspelare 1 -- Status: OK 0000
    15-Krockkuddar -- Status: OK 0000
    16-Rattelektronik -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instrument -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
    25-Startspärr -- Status: OK 0000
    34-Nivåreglering -- Status: OK 0000
    42-Dörrel. förare -- Status: OK 0000
    46-Komfortcentral -- Status: Felfunktion 0010
    47-Ljudsystem -- Status: OK 0000
    4F-Elektr. centralenh. II -- Status: OK 0000
    52-Dörrelektr. pass. -- Status: OK 0000
    53-Parkeringsbroms -- Status: OK 0000
    55-Helljusområde -- Status: OK 0000
    56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
    61-Batteriregl. -- Status: OK 0000
    62-Dörr vä. bak -- Status: OK 0000
    69-Släpvagnsfunktion -- Status: OK 0000
    72-Dörr hö bak -- Status: OK 0000
    76-Parkeringshjälp -- Status: OK 0000
    77-Telefon -- Status: Felfunktion 0010
     
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    Adress 01: Motor        Labels: AER\059-907-401-ASB.clb
       Artikelnr SW: 4F0 910 402 D    HW: 4F0 907 401 C
       Komponent: 3.0L V6TDI  G000AG  0020  
       Revision: --H03---    Serienummer:               
       Kodning: 0011372
       Verkstad #: WSC 02334 785 00200
       VCID: 1E0BE045C93694CE6C-804A
    
    2 Funna fel:
    005491 - Magnetventil; vänster för el-hydraulisk motorlagring (N144) 
                   P1573 - 001 - avbrott
                 frysta data:
                        Felstatus: 01100001
                        Felprioritet: 0
                        Felfrekvens: 1
                        Reset-räknare: 255
                        Mätarställning: 263522 km
                        Tidsindikering: 0
                        Datum: 2018.10.14
                        Tid: 13:01:20
    
                 frysta data:
                        RPM: 0 /min
                        Vridmoment: 0.0 Nm
                        Hastighet: 0.0 km/h
                        Spänning: 12.16 V
                        Binära Bitar:        1
                        Binära Bitar:        1
                        Binära Bitar:        1
    
    005715 - Läs av felminnet för 
                   P1653 - 001 - ABS-styrdonet - Intermittent fel
                 frysta data:
                        Felstatus: 00100001
                        Felprioritet: 0
                        Felfrekvens: 3
                        Reset-räknare: 255
                        Tidsindikering: 0
    
                 frysta data:
                        RPM: 0 /min
                        Vridmoment: -195.0 Nm
                        Hastighet: 0.0 km/h
                        Arbetscykel: 1.0 %
                        Spänning: 11.86 V
                        Binära Bitar: 00101000
                        Vridmoment: 0.0 Nm
    
    Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0 
    
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    Adress 02: Automatväxel        Labels: AER\09L-927-760.lbl
       Artikelnr SW: 4F2 910 156 F    HW: 09L 927 156 C
       Komponent: AG6 09L 3,0 TDI RdW 0030  
       Revision: --H01---    Serienummer:        4238177
       Kodning: 0000001
       Verkstad #: WSC 02325 785 00200
       VCID: 2867C69D9B725A7E16-807C
    
    Ingen felkod funnen.
    
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    Adress 03: Bromselektronik        Labels: AER\4F0-910-517.lbl
       Artikelnr SW: 4F0 910 517 AD    HW: 4F0 614 517 AA
       Komponent: ESP8 quattro    H01 0070  
       Revision: 00000000    Serienummer: 00000000000000
       Kodning: 0000392
       Verkstad #: WSC 02325 785 00200
       VCID: 66FB88A551E68C0EE4-8032
    
    Ingen felkod funnen.
    
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    Adress 05: Behör.kontroll        Labels: AER\4F0-910-852.clb
       Artikelnr SW: 4F0 910 852     HW: 4F0 905 852 B
       Komponent: FBSAUDIC6 ELV   H31 0220  
       Revision: 31050601    Serienummer: 10601100554581
       Kodning: 0000131
       Verkstad #: WSC 45031 001 1048576
       VCID: 63FD91B1A2D4F92603-8036
    
       Subsystem 1 - Artikelnr: 4F0 910 131 E
       Komponent: FBSAUDIC6 EZS   H45 0080
    
       Subsystem 2 - Artikelnr: 4F0 910 220 D
       Komponent: FBSAUDIC6 IDG   H01 0054
    
    Ingen felkod funnen.
    
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    Adress 07: Kontrollpanel        Labels: AER\4F0-910-7xx-07-H.lbl
       Artikelnr SW: 4F0 910 732 S    HW: 4E0 035 729 
       Komponent: Interfacebox    H43 5150  
       Revision: 00000000    Serienummer: 350IR067722518
       Kodning: 0001002
       Verkstad #: WSC 00150 218 72503
       VCID: 335D21F152B429A6B3-8066
    
       Subsystem 1 - Artikelnr: 4F0 910 609 E
       Komponent: Bedienteil MMIC6H02 0060
    
       Subsystem 2 - Serienummer: 00000000543215
    
       Subsystem 3 - Serienummer: 0105.10.060000000100011272ÿ
    
       Subsystem 4 - Serienummer: 011272ÿ
    
    Ingen felkod funnen.
    
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    Adress 08: Klimatanläggning        Labels: AER\4F0-910-043.lbl
       Artikelnr SW: 4F0 910 043     HW: 4F1 820 043 AC
       Komponent: KLIMABETAETIGUNGH20 0170  
       Revision: 00000031    Serienummer: 00000030160791
       Kodning: 0000278
       Verkstad #: WSC 02325 785 00200
       VCID: 5B8DA9519AA4C1E64B-800E
    
    Ingen felkod funnen.
    
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    Adress 09: Elektron. elcentral        Labels: AER\4F0-910-279.lbl
       Artikelnr SW: 4F0 910 279 K    HW: 4F0 907 279 
       Komponent: ILM Fahrer      H15 0240  
       Revision: 00000000    Serienummer: 4F0907279     
       Kodning: 0012122
       Verkstad #: WSC 02335 785 00200
       VCID: 31512BF9A8A81BB6C1-8064
    
       Subsystem 1 - Artikelnr: 4F1 910 113 C  Labels: AER\1KX-955-119.CLB
       Komponent: Wischer AudiC6  H05 0210  
       Kodning: 00064784
       Verkstad #: WSC 02335  
    
       Subsystem 2 - Artikelnr: 4E0 910 557 A  Labels: AER\8K0-955-559.CLB
       Komponent: REGENLICHTSENSORH13 0090  
       Kodning: 00146221
       Verkstad #: WSC 02335  
    
    Ingen felkod funnen.
    
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    Adress 0E: Mediaspelare 1
    Kan ej nås
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Adress 15: Krockkuddar        Labels: AER\4F0-910-655-8R.lbl
       Artikelnr SW: 4F0 910 655 E    HW: 4F0 959 655 B
       Komponent: 43 AIRBAG AUDI8RH29 0280  
       Revision: 08H29000    Serienummer: 0037LD0GYBW8  
       Kodning: 0013363
       Verkstad #: WSC 02325 785 00200
       VCID: 2961C3998078637609-807C
    
       Subsystem 1 - Serienummer: 6332CSME136C0851/
    
       Subsystem 2 - Serienummer: 6342CSME1246312D.
    
       Subsystem 3 - Serienummer: 6352QSME141726716
    
       Subsystem 4 - Serienummer: 6362QSME125B1A39K
    
       Subsystem 5 - Serienummer: 63734SME144B117B+
    
       Subsystem 6 - Serienummer: 63834SME0F343101T
    
    Ingen felkod funnen.
    
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    Adress 16: Rattelektronik        Labels: AER\4F0-910-549.lbl
       Artikelnr SW: 4F0 910 549     HW: 4F0 953 549 A
       Komponent: Lenksäulenmodul H08 0230  
       Revision: 00H08000    Serienummer: 90055062800446
       Kodning: 0002042
       Verkstad #: WSC 02323 785 00200
       VCID: 66FB88A551E68C0EE4-8032
    
       Subsystem 1 - Artikelnr: XXXXXXXXXXX 
       Komponent: Lenkradmodul    H07 0090
    
    Ingen felkod funnen.
    
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    Adress 17: Instrument        Labels: AER\4F0-910-xxx-17.lbl
       Artikelnr SW: 4F0 910 900 C    HW: 4F0 920 901 C
       Komponent: KOMBIINSTR. M73 H12 0120  
       Revision: 00400000    Serienummer: 58U71LT96     
       Kodning: 2081143
       Verkstad #: WSC 80093 222 69422
       VCID: 2077DEBDF342A23E5E-8074
    
    1 fel funnet:
    01314 - Motorstyrdon 
                004 - Ingen signal/förbindelse - Intermittent fel
                 frysta data:
                        Felstatus: 00100100
                        Felprioritet: 2
                        Felfrekvens: 9
                        Reset-räknare: 106
                        Mätarställning: 263851 km
                        Tidsindikering: 0
                        Datum: 2018.10.19
                        Tid: 21:24:18
    
    
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    Adress 17: Instrument        Labels: AER\4F0-910-xxx-17.lbl
       Artikelnr SW: 4F0 910 900 C    HW: 4F0 920 901 C
       Komponent: KOMBIINSTR. M73 H12 0120  
       Revision: 00400000    Serienummer: 58U71LT96     
       Kodning: 2081143
       Verkstad #: WSC 80093 222 69422
       VCID: 2077DEBDF342A23E5E-8074
    
    Ingen felkod funnen.
    
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    Adress 19: CAN Gateway        Labels: AER\4F0-910-468.lbl
       Artikelnr SW: 4F0 910 468 A    HW: 4F0 907 468 D
       Komponent: Gateway         H11 0070  
       Revision: 11          Serienummer: 13008069150063
       Kodning: EDFE7BC41B1104
       Verkstad #: WSC 02334 785 00200
       VCID: 2765C5A1966C55061F-8072
    
    Ingen felkod funnen.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Adress 34: Nivåreglering        Labels: AER\4F0-910-553.lbl
       Artikelnr SW: 4F0 910 553 B    HW: 4F0 907 553 A
       Komponent: J197 LUFTFEDER  H17 0020  
       Serienummer: 00628004130300
       Kodning: 0000220
       Verkstad #: WSC 18973 000 1048576
       VCID: 237DD1B1E254B92643-8076
    
    Ingen felkod funnen.
    
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    Adress 42: Dörrel. förare        Labels: AER\4F0-910-793-42.lbl
       Artikelnr SW: 4F0 910 793 E    HW: 4F0 959 793 E
       Komponent: TSG FA          H12 0120  
       Revision: 00-00000    
       Kodning: 0003690
       Verkstad #: WSC 02327 785 00200
       VCID: 2C6F3A8D8F8A765EF2-8078
    
    Ingen felkod funnen.
    
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    Adress 46: Komfortcentral        Labels: AER\4F0-910-289.lbl
       Artikelnr SW: 4F0 910 289 G    HW: 4F0 907 289 G
       Komponent: Komfortgeraet   H22 0170  
       Revision: 01700022    Serienummer: 01021202250000
       Kodning: 0140017
       Verkstad #: WSC 02335 785 00200
       VCID: 2E6B3085B996044EDC-807A
    
       Subsystem 1 - Artikelnr: 1K0 951 605 C
       Komponent: LIN BACKUP HORN H03 1301
    
       Subsystem 2 - Artikelnr: 4F0 910 177 
       Komponent: Innenraumueberw.H01 0020
    
    1 fel funnet:
    01403 - Glaskrossningssensorer bak 
                011 - avbrott
                 frysta data:
                        Felstatus: 01101011
                        Felprioritet: 3
                        Felfrekvens: 254
                        Reset-räknare: 67
                        Mätarställning: 138771 km
                        Tidsindikering: 0
                        Datum: 2012.01.14
                        Tid: 23:18:29
    
    
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    Adress 47: Ljudsystem        Labels: AER\4F0-910-223-AS.lbl
       Artikelnr SW: 4F0 910 223 G    HW: 4F0 035 223 
       Komponent: Amp.-ASK        H10 0350  
       Revision: 45S00001    Serienummer: 02609060353307
       Kodning: 0000108
       Verkstad #: WSC 02335 785 00200
       VCID: 2273D4B5FD4EB02E48-8076
    
    Ingen felkod funnen.
    
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    Adress 4F: Elektr. centralenh. II        Labels: AER\4F0-910-280.lbl
       Artikelnr SW: 4F0 910 280     HW: 4F0 907 280 A
       Komponent: ILM Beifahrer   H10 0080  
       Revision:             Serienummer: 00000000297197
       Kodning: 0001103
       Verkstad #: WSC 02323 785 00200
       VCID: 5E8BA04589B6D4CE2C-800A
    
    Ingen felkod funnen.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Adress 52: Dörrelektr. pass.        Labels: AER\4F0-910-793-52.lbl
       Artikelnr SW: 4F0 910 793 E    HW: 4F0 959 792 E
       Komponent: TSG BF          H12 0120  
       Revision: 00-00000    
       Kodning: 0003690
       Verkstad #: WSC 02327 785 00200
       VCID: 2C6F3A8D8F8A765EF2-8078
    
    Ingen felkod funnen.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Adress 53: Parkeringsbroms        Labels: AER\4F0-910-801.clb
       Artikelnr SW: 4F0 910 801 B    HW: 4F0 907 801 A
       Komponent: EPB  CB4C0060   H04 0060  
       Revision: --H04---    
       Kodning: 0000321
       Verkstad #: WSC 02324 785 00200
       VCID: 1F75DD41CE3C9DC667-804A
    
    Ingen felkod funnen.
    
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    Adress 55: Helljusområde        Labels: AER\8P0-907-357.lbl
       Artikelnr: 8P0 907 357 F
       Komponent: Dynamische LWR  H02 0010  
       Revision: 00000001    Serienummer:               
       Kodning: 0000004
       Verkstad #: WSC 02325 785 00200
       VCID: 3D4907C964F0EFD655-8068
    
    Ingen felkod funnen.
    
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    Adress 56: Radio        Labels: AER\4E0-910-541.lbl
       Artikelnr SW: 4E0 910 541 Q    HW: 4F0 035 541 H
       Komponent: TUNER EU/US/RDW H42 0620  
       Revision: 00000000    Serienummer: 394J1067688218
       Kodning: 0000001
       Verkstad #: WSC 02323 785 00200
       VCID: 2E6B3085B996044EDC-807A
    
    Ingen felkod funnen.
    
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    Adress 61: Batteriregl.        Labels: AER\4F0-910-181.lbl
       Artikelnr SW: 4F0 910 181 E    HW: 4F0 915 181 A
       Komponent: J0644 BEM       H12 0590  
       Revision: 00000000    Serienummer: 00000000126546
       Verkstad #: WSC 00150 218 86486
       VCID: 237DD1B1E254B92643-8076
    
       Subsystem 1 - Artikelnr: 4F0 915 105 D
       Komponent: von VA0  2610060511       
       Kodning: 344630393135313035442056413032363130303630353131
       Verkstad #: WSC 00000 384 00290
    
    Ingen felkod funnen.
    
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    Adress 62: Dörr vä. bak        Labels: AER\4F0-910-795.lbl
       Artikelnr SW: 4F0 910 795 E    HW: 4F0 959 795 E
       Komponent: TSG HL          H21 0050  
       Kodning: 0003114
       Verkstad #: WSC 02327 785 00200
       VCID: 2E6B3085B996044EDC-807A
    
    Ingen felkod funnen.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Adress 69: Släpvagnsfunktion        Labels: AER\4F0-910-383.lbl
       Artikelnr SW: 4F0 910 383 B    HW: 4F0 907 383 B
       Komponent: ANHAENGERELEKTR 003 0060  
       Kodning: 0000331
       Verkstad #: WSC 02323 785 00200
       VCID: 247FD2ADE75ABE1E3A-8070
    
    Ingen felkod funnen.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Adress 72: Dörr hö bak        Labels: AER\4F0-910-795.lbl
       Artikelnr SW: 4F0 910 795 E    HW: 4F0 959 794 E
       Komponent: TSG HR          H21 0050  
       Kodning: 0003114
       Verkstad #: WSC 02327 785 00200
       VCID: 2E6B3085B996044EDC-807A
    
    Ingen felkod funnen.
    
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    Adress 76: Parkeringshjälp        Labels: AER\4Fx-910-283.lbl
       Artikelnr SW: 4F0 910 283 F    HW: 4F0 919 283 F
       Komponent: Parkhilfe 4-Kan H09 0060  
       Revision: 00H09000    Serienummer: 06230626800660
       Kodning: 0011016
       Verkstad #: WSC 131071 1023 2097151
       VCID: 2765C5A1966C55061F-8072
    
    Ingen felkod funnen.
    
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    Adress 77: Telefon        Labels: AER\4E0-910-336.lbl
       Artikelnr SW: 4E0 910 336 K    HW: 4E0 862 335 
       Komponent: Handyvorb2      H13 0950  
       Revision: 00000000    Serienummer: 00000007585355
       Kodning: 0010990
       Verkstad #: WSC 02335 785 00200
       VCID: 2A633C95857E686E00-807E
    
    2 Funna fel:
    00003 - Styrdon 
                014 - felaktig
                 frysta data:
                        Felstatus: 11101110
                        Felprioritet: 9
                        Felfrekvens: 254
                        Reset-räknare: 255
                        Tidsindikering: 9
    
    02619 - Kommunikationsledning adapterset 
                004 - Ingen signal/förbindelse
                 frysta data:
                        Felstatus: 11110100
                        Felprioritet: 15
                        Felfrekvens: 254
                        Reset-räknare: 238
                        Tidsindikering: 15
    
    
    Slut------------------------(Förfluten tid: 01:50)-------------------------
    Last edited by Uwe; 10-29-2018 at 02:08 PM. Reason: CODE tags

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    Right now, there is nothing to work from in this scan. Drive it some more, until ABS fault codes come back, then post a fresh scan before any codes have been cleared.

    In the meanwhile, please install the current English version of VCDS from this page:
    http://www.ross-tech.com/vcds/download/current.php

    It will happily coexist with the Swedish version you are currently using (which you should also update):
    https://www.vcds.se/vad-ar-vcds/hamta-vcds

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    Ok, I'll try to wait then ...
    I don't have vagcom myself as it is to expensive for me, therefore I pay a fee for someone else to scan it for me, thus the swedish one :P

    I don't know wheter this would add any value or not. This is what I could read with my cheap scanner.
    P1647: «Check coding of ECUs in Data Bus powertrain».
    P1653: «Please check DTC memory of: ABS ECU». [kanskje abs kontroll modul]
    ?: «Engine Control Module»
    ?: «Message for Delay Request».
    U0401: «Invalid data from ECM/PCM -A- [kan være abs kontroll modul]
    P1881: «Data bus powertrain: missing message from acceleration request

    I feel lost as to what the problem might be. Some threads suggest it might be the ECU(or ABS module???) that needs recoding. I haven't really found any guides for this tho. Others suggest changig the whole ABS control module, although I guess that also involves recoding?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AchieveStudios View Post
    Ok, I'll try to wait then ...
    I don't have vagcom myself as it is to expensive for me, therefore I pay a fee for someone else to scan it for me, thus the swedish one :P
    Please find someone with an up-to-date LEGAL copy of VCDS (18.9.0) and post the scan from that.

    Remember the forum is to support VCDS owners, not owners of other diagnostic tools

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    I don't know whether it is legal or up to date.
    Regarding your last statement the forum has sections (like this one) where you can write without actually beeing a verified VCDS user. Don't really see as to why they would have this kind of forum if people such as myself, who can't afford VCDS, wasn't allowed to use it? All I am trying to is ask for help, and as the codes are from (legal or illegal) ross tech's vcds I thought it was fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AchieveStudios View Post
    All I am trying to is ask for help, and as the codes are from (legal or illegal) ross tech's vcds I thought it was fine.
    If it's a LEGAL copy then there is no reason not to be using the latest version as updates are free for life, support will then be offered on this forum.

    If it's NOT a LEGAL copy then why would Ross-Tech and its customers support people using cloned rip-offs?

    The fact that the version used to make the scan is 3 YEARS out of date strongly suggests that it may be an ILLEGAL copy - so we need to see a scan from an up-to-date version (preferably the English version, which as Uwe says can co-exist with the Swedish version) so we can see whether we should offer support or not.

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    I completely agree. But I (obviously) didn't know it was a fake.The guy that helped me get the fault codes has a diagnosis company of sorts so I assumed it was real and up to date version he had. As I said further up I just want help and see if anyone else has experienced the same issues I have. I appreciate you making me heads up that it is not up to date, but if you are just interested in nagging about how the forum is for only VCDS users you don't really need to keep commenting as I do see your point. If the admins delete the thread it is absolutely understandable. However, as I said in the part of the message you decided not to quote and respond to I don't really see why they would have a section for people without verified accounts to type in.

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    I'm confident the scan the OP posted is from a legitimate system. Not sure why its owner hasn't updated the software.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AchieveStudios View Post
    However, as I said in the part of the message you decided not to quote and respond to I don't really see why they would have a section for people without verified accounts to type in.
    There are lots of people who own legitimate systems who have never registered them with us and thus are not yet eligible to be Verified users.

    But in the end, this is primarily a forum for customers of Ross-Tech, i.e. people who own a legitimate VCDS system, and it's difficult to help people who can't post follow-up data.

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    Lock-down of healthy people: Tyranny

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