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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack@European_Parts View Post
    Remove 0x34 manifold block and soak with cleaners & oils, then install with fresh working air pump and trace the leak if needed.

    Verify power and grounds + relay and check the CAN for communication disruption, ......clear codes first and default.

    Verify level sensors on control arms and if needed trick to get compressor to stop overheat condition by lifting car & removing load from suspension and compressor work.

    Excuse my ignorance. What is 0x34 manifold block?

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    Quote Originally Posted by walters_c View Post
    Excuse my ignorance. What is 0x34 manifold block?
    0x34 is the control module address, which is the air suspension. Therefore the manifold block.


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    Can anyone say where this unit fits? I have seen where other models have it in front wheel well (towards firewall). Is it same for Phaeton.

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    Can anyone say where this unit fits? I have seen where other models have it in front wheel well (towards firewall). Is it same for Phaeton.
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    Thanks all for helping me to get my Phaeton back on the road. Been driving her again for a week now. The "Running Gear" fault disappeared after I changed relay 214. The front of car lifted after driving around the block a few times. Front right still lowers a bit after its been parked for approx. 8 hours plus, but I guess that could be due to leak as reported by VCDS. Haven't been able to locate leak yet though. I had this issue before but it went after I performed an adaption on controller 34. Another adaption is definitely needed now as the rear stands much higher than it suppose to be, while the front sits below normal. The problem is, the controller still refuses to accept security code (31564) which I have successfully used before. Below is my current VCDS scan.


    Code:
    Thursday,29,November,2018,06:32:41:37723
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
    VCDS Version: 18.9.0.2 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4436.4
    Data version: 20180927 DS296.0
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    VIN: WVWZZZ3DZD8001098   License Plate: 29-11-6:32
    Mileage: 118930km-73899mi   Repair Order: 
    
    
    
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    
    Chassis Type: 3D-VW61 (6N0)
    Scan: 01 02 03 05 06 07 08 09 15 16 17 19 28 2E 34 36 37 38 42 46
              47 52 55 56 62 68 6C 71 72 76
    
    VIN: WVWZZZ3DZD8001098   Mileage: 118930km-73899miles
    
    01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
    04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
    05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: OK 0000
    06-Seat Mem. Pass -- Status: OK 0000
    07-Control Head -- Status: OK 0000
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
    28-HVAC, Rear -- Status: OK 0000
    2E-Media Player 3 -- Status: OK 0000
    34-Level Control -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    36-Seat Mem. Drvr -- Status: OK 0000
    37-Navigation -- Status: OK 0000
    38-Roof Electronics -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
    46-Central Conv. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
    52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
    55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000
    56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
    62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
    68-Wiper Electr. -- Status: OK 0000
    6C-Back-up Cam. -- Status: OK 0000
    71-Battery Charger -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
    76-Park Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine (CMV)       Labels: None
       Part No SW: 03H 906 032 GL    HW: 03H 907 309 B
       Component: D1-3.6-FSI-AGEU5G   3903  
       Revision: 5KH07---    Serial number: VWX3Z0L3966034
       Coding: 0000175
       Shop #: WSC 01065 000 00000
       VCID: 72BD2652B8B61427981-5160
    
    3 Faults Found:
    008585 - Bank 2; System too Lean at Idle 
                   P2189 - 001 -  - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00100001
                        Fault Priority: 0
                        Fault Frequency: 7
                        Reset counter: 255
                        Mileage: 118825 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2018.11.25
                        Time: 14:53:50
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        RPM: 634 /min
                        Load: 26.7 %
                        Speed: 0.0 km/h
                        Temperature: 85.0C
                        Temperature: 47.0C
                        Absolute Pres.: 990.0 mbar
                        Voltage: 14.351 V
    
    008583 - Bank 1; System too Lean at Idle 
                   P2187 - 001 -  - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00100001
                        Fault Priority: 0
                        Fault Frequency: 2
                        Reset counter: 255
                        Mileage: 118842 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2018.11.25
                        Time: 15:18:28
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        RPM: 615 /min
                        Load: 22.3 %
                        Speed: 0.0 km/h
                        Temperature: 82.0C
                        Temperature: 36.0C
                        Absolute Pres.: 1000.0 mbar
                        Voltage: 14.351 V
    
    001089 - EVAP Emission Control Sys 
                   P0441 - 001 - Incorrect Flow - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00100001
                        Fault Priority: 0
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 255
                        Mileage: 118847 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2018.11.25
                        Time: 16:13:08
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        RPM: 633 /min
                        Load: 22.3 %
                        Speed: 0.0 km/h
                        Temperature: 90.0C
                        Temperature: 65.0C
                        Absolute Pres.: 1000.0 mbar
                        Voltage: 14.351 V
    
    Readiness: 0000 0001
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 09L-927-760.lbl
       Part No SW: 09L 927 760 S    HW: GS1 911 4
       Component: AG6 09L 3,6 FSI RdW 3603  
       Revision: --H05---    Serial number:        4636407
       Coding: 0000001
       Shop #: WSC 01065 000 00000
       VCID: 47CBA786E3B4C18F1FF-5160
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 3D0-614-517.lbl
       Part No: 3D0 614 517 AK
       Component: ESP 5.7 allrad  H35 0047  
       Coding: 0008566
       Shop #: WSC 30001 000 00000
       VCID: 6B833B369F9CC5EF5B7-51F2
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 05: Acc/Start Auth.        Labels: 3D0-909-13x-05.lbl
       Part No SW: 3D0 909 137 F    HW: 3D0 909 137 F
       Component:    Kessy            6850  
       Revision: 00H24072    Serial number: VWX3Z0L3966034
       Coding: 0151788
       Shop #: WSC 01065 000 00000
       VCID: 2A0DFE3250B61CE7E01-807E
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX 
       Component: ELV                 XXXX
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 06: Seat Mem. Pass        Labels: 3D0-959-759.lbl
       Part No: 3D0 959 759 CA
       Component: Sitzmemory D1 BF    1722  
       Coding: 0000003
       Shop #: WSC 01065 000 00000
       VCID: 77AB1746D384710FAFF-8022
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 07: Control Head        Labels: 3D0-907-048.clb
       Part No SW: 3D0 907 048     HW: 3D0 907 048 
       Component: J127 KBT vorn       0035  
       Revision: ABH03001    Serial number: VWZ6Z7M0155020
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 63935316771C8DAFE37-8036
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 3D0-907-040.lbl
       Part No: 3D0 907 040 M
       Component: Climatronic D1      2039  
       Coding: 0000003
       Shop #: WSC 01065 000 00000
       VCID: 2809043A4EBA2EF7F65-807C
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels:. 3D0-937-049-V2.clb
       Part No SW: 3D0 937 049 Q    HW: 3D0 937 049 Q
       Component: J519                7700  
       Revision: -4006---    Serial number: --------------
       Coding: 618C0000EB2915825502770000000000
       Shop #: WSC 01065 000 00000
       VCID: 3829D47A9E1ABE77665-806C
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 3D0-909-601.lbl
       Part No: 3D0 909 601 M
       Component: 08 Airbag 8.4E+ H14 1155  
       Coding: 0012344
       Shop #: WSC 01065 000 00000
       VCID: 2D07F52E61580BDF053-8078
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 7L6-953-549.lbl
       Part No: 7L6 953 549 K
       Component: J527                3601  
       Coding: 0000012
       Shop #: WSC 01065 000 00000
       VCID: 47CBA786E3E4C18F1FF-8012
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 3D0-920-xxx-17.lbl
       Part No SW: 3D0 920 886 B    HW: 3D0 920 886 B
       Component: J285 KOMBI-INST.    1521  
       Revision: KPH06V08    
       Coding: 0039501
       Shop #: WSC 27202 001 104857
       VCID: 2A0DFE3250F61CE7E01-807E
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels:. 6N0-909-901-7L.clb
       Part No SW: 6N0 909 901     HW: 3D0 920 886 B
       Component: J533  GW-K-CAN TP20 1521  
       Coding: 7FF2F7BEE3011003
       Shop #: WSC 27202 001 104857
       VCID: 70B92C5AB6AA26376E5-8024
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 28: HVAC, Rear        Labels: 3D0-919-158.lbl
       Part No: 3D0 919 158 M
       Component: Klima-Bedienteil D1 0124  
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 3537DD4E8908431F7D3-8060
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 2E: Media Player 3 (J650)       Labels:. 5N0-035-342.lbl
       Part No SW: 5N0 035 342 F    HW: 5N0 035 342 F
       Component: SG EXT.PLAYER H18 0530  
       Revision: A1001003    Serial number: 7662638292    
       Coding: 020100
       Shop #: WSC 01065 000 00000
       VCID: 2A0DFE325CF61CE7E01-807E
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 34: Level Control        Labels: 3D0-907-553-V2.clb
       Part No: 3D0 907 553 C
       Component: LUFTFDR.-CDC- 3C3V0 1122  
       Coding: 0007722
       Shop #: WSC 28868 001 104857
       VCID: 270B070643A4218FFFF-8072
    
    4 Faults Found:
    00219 - Loading Level Active 
                000 -  - 
    01583 - Leak in System Detected 
                000 -  - 
    01400 - Suspension Level Control 
                002 - Lower Limit Exceeded
    01577 - Turn-Off due to Over-Temp 
                001 - Upper Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 36: Seat Mem. Drvr        Labels: 3D0-959-760.lbl
       Part No: 3D0 959 760 CA
       Component: Sitzmemory D1 F     1722  
       Coding: 0000004
       Shop #: WSC 01065 000 00000
       VCID: 6FBB2F26ABD439CF77F-803A
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 37: Navigation (J0506)       Labels:. 1T0-035-680.clb
       Part No SW: 3D0 035 686     HW: 3D0 035 686 
       Component: RNS-MID       H03 2198  
       Revision: AB001001    Serial number: VWZ6Z7M0155020
       Coding: 06070002000000200000
       Shop #: WSC 01065 000 00000
       VCID: 639353167B5C8DAFE37-8036
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 7L6 919 859 J
       Component: SIMA V4  7769 
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 38: Roof Electronics        Labels: 3D0-907-135.lbl
       Part No: 3D0 907 135 F
       Component: Dachmodul           0903  
       Coding: 0012335
       Shop #: WSC 01065 000 00000
       VCID: 26150A0244AE3887C49-8072
    
    1 Fault Found:
    00308 - Supply Voltage for Motors for Sunroof/sunroof Shade 
                002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 42: Door Elect, Driver
    Cannot be reached
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels: 3D0-959-933.lbl
       Part No: 3D0 959 933 P
       Component:    HSG              8135  
       Coding: 0000040
       Shop #: WSC 01065 000 00000
       VCID: 3D27C56EB1689B5FB53-4B1E
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 3D2 959 701 L
       Component: Tuersteuergeraet FS 6004
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No: 3D2 959 702 L
       Component: Tuersteuergeraet BF 6004
    
       Subsystem 3 - Part No: 3D0 959 703 K
       Component: Tuersteuergeraet HL 6004
    
       Subsystem 4 - Part No: 3D0 959 704 K
       Component: Tuersteuergeraet HR 6004
    
       Subsystem 5 - Part No: 3D0 909 610 F
       Component: 3P HDSG             2630
    
       Subsystem 6 - Part No: 7L0 907 719 A
       Component:    Neigungssensor   0020
    
    2 Faults Found:
    00316 - Bulbs for Rear Illumination 
                009 - Open or Short to Ground
    00896 - Trunk Lock Unit (F256) 
                008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 47: Sound System        Labels: 7Lx-035-4xx-47.lbl
       Part No SW: 3D0 035 466 D    HW: 3D0 035 466 D
       Component: R12___DSP 12 Kanal  0570  
       Revision: DBH06001    Serial number: BP225721243173
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 2313131637DCCDAFA37-8076
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.
    Cannot be reached
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 55: Headlight Range (J745)       Labels:. 5M0-907-357-V3.clb
       Part No SW: 5M0 907 357 F    HW: 7L6 907 357 C
       Component: AFS-ECU       H04 0111  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: --------------
       Coding: 012E00000B000200
       Shop #: WSC 01065 000 00023
       ASAM Dataset: EV_HeadlRegulVWAFSPt 002016
       ROD: EV_HeadlRegulVWAFSPt_VW32.rod
       VCID: 372BD7469FC4B10F6FF-8062
    
       Left_headlamp_power_output_stage: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 3D0 941 329   Labels: 3D0-941-329.CLB
    
       Right_headlamp_power_output_stage: 
       Subsystem 2 - Part No: 3D0 941 329   Labels: 3D0-941-329.CLB
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 56: Radio (J0506)       Labels:. 1T0-035-680.clb
       Part No SW: 3D0 035 686     HW: 3D0 035 686 
       Component: RNS-MID       H03 2198  
       Revision: AB001001    Serial number: VWZ6Z7M0155020
       Coding: 06070002000000200000
       Shop #: WSC 01065 000 00000
       VCID: 639353167B5C8DAFE37-8036
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 7L6 919 859 J
       Component: SIMA V4  7769 
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 62: Door, Rear Left
    Cannot be reached
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 68: Wiper Electr.        Labels: 3Dx-955-1xx-V2.clb
       Part No: 3D2 955 120 B
       Component: Front Wiper         3501  
       Coding: 0015733
       Shop #: WSC 01065 000 376832
       VCID: 211F191E2D80DFBFB1B-8074
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 6C: Back-up Cam.        Labels: 5N0-907-441.clb
       Part No SW: 3D0 907 441     HW: 3D0 907 441 
       Component: J772__Rearview      0020  
       Revision: 00H11000    Serial number: 525PA8-J231098
       Coding: 0000003
       Shop #: WSC 01065 000 00000
       VCID: 60995C1A664A96B7FE5-8034
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 71: Battery Charger        Labels: 3D0-915-181.lbl
       Part No: 3D0 915 181 F
       Component: Batteriemanagement  2800  
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 26150A0244AE3887C49-8072
    
    1 Fault Found:
    00086 - Parallel Battery Connection Relay (J581) 
                011 - Open Circuit - Intermittent
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 72: Door, Rear Right
    Cannot be reached
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 76: Park Assist        Labels: Redir Fail!
       Part No: 3D0 919 283 F
       Component: 18 Einparkhilfe     1207  
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 2D07F52E61580BDF053-8078
    
    No fault code found.
    
    End----------(Elapsed Time: 03:29, VBatt start/end: 11.9V/12.1V)-----------
    I am still working to get back to pre KESSY Damage state and better This forum has been of invaluable help. Thanks again guys


    I am also finding the Phaeton Self-study program and Elsa workshop manual to be very helpful.
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    Troubleshooting advice for my Touareg, the SUV version of your Phaeton, suggests painting the network of tubes exiting the compressor manifold with soapy water to show bubbles. This is under the car below the right front passenger seat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by walters_c View Post
    The front of car lifted after driving around the block a few times. Front right still lowers a bit after its been parked for approx. 8 hours plus, but I guess that could be due to leak as reported by VCDS. Haven't been able to locate leak yet though.
    Yeah that's going to be a mild leak somewhere.

    Quote Originally Posted by walters_c View Post
    I had this issue before but it went after I performed an adaption on controller 34. Another adaption is definitely needed now as the rear stands much higher than it suppose to be, while the front sits below normal. The problem is, the controller still refuses to accept security code (31564) which I have successfully used before. Below is my current VCDS scan.
    You have the exact same level control module as my 2006 W12. That code really ought to work.

    Code:
    Address 34: Level Control        Labels: 3D0-907-553-V2.clb
       Part No: 3D0 907 553 C
       Component: LUFTFDR.-CDC- 3C3V0 1122  
       Coding: 0007722
       Shop #: WSC 28868 001 104857
       VCID: 270B070643A4218FFFF-8072
    
    4 Faults Found:
    00219 - Loading Level Active 
                000 -  - 
    01583 - Leak in System Detected 
                000 -  - 
    01400 - Suspension Level Control 
                002 - Lower Limit Exceeded
    01577 - Turn-Off due to Over-Temp 
                001 - Upper Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
    You're in loading/transport mode. I bet you need to lay the transport mode disable code on it before it's willing to go through level calibration. Transport mode may also interfere with post-shutdown level maintenance. IIRC, the Phaeton should periodically check and adjust its level for several hours (possibly a day?) after shutdown, but the transport and jack modes will probably disable that. This won't fix your leak either, but it may help a little.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lgibson View Post
    Troubleshooting advice for my Touareg, the SUV version of your Phaeton, suggests painting the network of tubes exiting the compressor manifold with soapy water to show bubbles. This is under the car below the right front passenger seat.
    Thanks. The compressor/manifold for my Phaeton sits under the spare wheel well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jyoung8607 View Post
    Yeah that's going to be a mild leak somewhere.


    You have the exact same level control module as my 2006 W12. That code really ought to work.

    Code:
    Address 34: Level Control        Labels: 3D0-907-553-V2.clb
       Part No: 3D0 907 553 C
       Component: LUFTFDR.-CDC- 3C3V0 1122  
       Coding: 0007722
       Shop #: WSC 28868 001 104857
       VCID: 270B070643A4218FFFF-8072
    
    4 Faults Found:
    00219 - Loading Level Active 
                000 -  - 
    01583 - Leak in System Detected 
                000 -  - 
    01400 - Suspension Level Control 
                002 - Lower Limit Exceeded
    01577 - Turn-Off due to Over-Temp 
                001 - Upper Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
    You're in loading/transport mode. I bet you need to lay the transport mode disable code on it before it's willing to go through level calibration. Transport mode may also interfere with post-shutdown level maintenance. IIRC, the Phaeton should periodically check and adjust its level for several hours (possibly a day?) after shutdown, but the transport and jack modes will probably disable that. This won't fix your leak either, but it may help a little.

    Thanks Jyoung.

    As soon as I entered transport mode deactivation code, the car went into "lowering ride height" mode, and the rear of car immediately lowered.

    The security code (31564) was also accepted by controller. However, when I attempted adaption, it is again requesting security code before channel 01 is even ready for accepting height value.

    I will drive her around for a day or two then attempt adaption again if required. Currently the right side of vehicle sits about 10mm lower than left at both front and rear. Left side seem to have correct height for coding 0005521.

    Still wondering why transport mode was not disabled since I have been driving this car regularly over 100km/h.

    Will update thread in a few days.

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