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    Aux heater retrofit, coding side

    I am just about to finish the Webasto aux heater retrofit. yesterday I did the fuel line, then ran the "fill fuel line" procedure and the hose is full up to the heater.

    tomorrow I will have a mechanic connect the coolant hoses, then top-up and bleed the circuit.

    that should be the end of the hardware side.

    then I need to code and do basic settings.

    since the aux heater is not a very diffused retrofit, I am finding difficult to get info about where to code/adapt.

    ok, module 18 goes to gateway installation list.

    I think there is coding on modules 08 and 09.

    is that all? how about other coding or adaptations?

    and then, how do I do basic settings, how do I initialize the heater?

    thanks

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    see attached scan. no matter what I do, the heater has no basic settings, and I don't know how to perform them...

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    Friday,14,September,2018,19:20:30:06888
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
    VCDS Version: 18.2.1.5 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4411.4
    Data version: 20180518 DS287.2
    www.Ross-Tech.com
    
    
    VIN: WVWZZZAUZHW0xxxxx   License Plate: 
    Mileage: 20995km-13045mi   Repair Order: 
    
    
    
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    
    Chassis Type: AU-VW37 (5Q0)
    Scan: 01 03 08 09 10 15 16 17 18 19 42 44 52 5F
    
    VIN: WVWZZZAUZHW0xxxxx   Mileage: 20995km-13045miles
    
    01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
    10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    18-Aux. Heat -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
    42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
    44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
    5F-Information Electr. -- Status: OK 0000
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 18: Aux. Heat (J364)       Labels:| 5Q0-963-272.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 963 272 B    HW: 5Q0 963 272 B
       Component: STH-MQB       006 0069  
       Coding: 1305
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_AuxilParkiHeateWOS 002014
       ROD: EV_AuxilParkiHeateWOS.rod
       VCID: 3537DDC715C0D82F922-8060
    
       Remote Control Auxiliary Heater: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5Q0 963 513 A    HW: 5Q0 963 513 A
       Component: R149 T91-LIN  003 0301 
       Serial number: 00000000000001256652
    
    1 Fault Found:
    0376 - No Basic Setting 
              B2010 00 [009] -  - 
              [INITIAL OPERATION MISSING]
              Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 6
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 150
                        Mileage: 20995 km
                        Date: 2018.09.14
                        Time: 19:14:00
    
                        Operating condition of parking heater: System malfunction
                        71
                        Coolant temperature of parking heater: 68 ∞C
                        Coolant temperature: 69 ∞C
                        Engine running status: detected
                        Fuel level: 11 l
                        Heater output: 0 W
    
    
    End----------(Elapsed Time: 01:48, VBatt start/end: 12.6V/12.5V)-----------

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    I have coded modules 08, 09 and 17 to tell them the Aux Heater is present.

    however, I am not getting the menu under the Climatronic screen.

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    Most likely You need to change some adaptions.

    Which one You need to figure out from different scans and admaps.
    Examples: https://forums.ross-tech.com/forumdi...on-Broken-Cars
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    I browsed through ALL pages of that section and found very little cars with Aux Heater. just scans, no admaps

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    The scan says 'initial operation missing'. Go to 18 and choose the option for basic settings. It will cycle through the operations then complete. Save and then exit.

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    Perhaps it would be good to tell us a bit more about the car and show an autoscan with, for example, the module fitted.

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    I made some progress. the fuel line was not filled up, that's why I could not complete the test.

    FYI, the "fuel line filling" under Basic Settings does not work, always gives an error. I had to fill the line by manually activating the metering pump from the Output Tests.

    I was then able to complete the "heater operation for production" under Basic Settings, and the error about initial operation was cleared.

    the "heater operation for customer service" does not work as well and always gives an error. anyway, I would like to know the difference between the two things.

    it seems like it's working, although it makes a bad smell like of burning plastic. I am not sure it is because the heater is brand new or if it's sympthom of a problem.

    I will keep you posted.

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    Posted 3 cars with admaps to Reference Scan section

    https://forums.ross-tech.com/showthr...5-2-0TDI-140kw
    https://forums.ross-tech.com/showthr...5-1-4TSI-103kw
    https://forums.ross-tech.com/showthr...-4TSI-81kw-CNG

    I think You will be intrested in these adaption channels:
    Code:
    IDE04300-ENG117531-Vehicle menu operation-menu_display_auxiliary_heating,activated ,40
    IDE04300-ENG117535-Vehicle menu operation-menu_display_auxiliary_heating_after_disclaimer,not activated ,40
    IDE04300-ENG117532-Vehicle menu operation-menu_display_auxiliary_heating_clamp_15_off,not activated ,40
    IDE04300-ENG117533-Vehicle menu operation-menu_display_auxiliary_heating_over_threshold_high,activated ,40
    IDE04300-ENG117534-Vehicle menu operation-menu_display_auxiliary_heating_standstill,not activated ,40
    , but i think in Your MIB2 case they will be named something like this:
    Code:
    ENG122227-ENG117531-Car_Function_Adaptations_Gen2-menu_display_auxiliary_heating,not activated ,60
    ENG122227-ENG117535-Car_Function_Adaptations_Gen2-menu_display_auxiliary_heating_after_disclaimer,not activated ,60
    ENG122227-ENG117532-Car_Function_Adaptations_Gen2-menu_display_auxiliary_heating_clamp_15_off,not activated ,60
    ENG122227-ENG117533-Car_Function_Adaptations_Gen2-menu_display_auxiliary_heating_over_threshold_high,not activated ,60
    ENG122227-ENG117534-Car_Function_Adaptations_Gen2-menu_display_auxiliary_heating_standstill,not activated ,608


    Also:
    Code:
    IDE04307-ENG117696-Vehicle function list BAP-auxilary_heating_0x03,activated ,53
    IDE04307-ENG117697-Vehicle function list BAP-auxilary_heating_0x03_msg_bus,Comfort data bus ,53
    Code:
    ENG122229-ENG117696-Car_Function_List_BAP_Gen2-auxilary_heating_0x03,not activated ,64
    ENG122229-ENG117697-Car_Function_List_BAP_Gen2-auxilary_heating_0x03_msg_bus,Comfort data bus ,64


    But please, autoscan and admaps!
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    thank you very much, I just scanned the car and will compare now to yours

    Code:
    Sunday,16,September,2018,21:29:53:06888
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
    VCDS Version: 18.2.1.5 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4411.4
    Data version: 20180518 DS287.2
    www.Ross-Tech.com
    
    
    VIN: WVWZZZAUZHW024283   License Plate: 
    Mileage: 21070km-13092mi   Repair Order: 
    
    
    
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    
    Chassis Type: AU-VW37 (5Q0)
    Scan: 01 03 08 09 10 15 16 17 18 19 42 44 52 5F
    
    VIN: WVWZZZAUZHW024283   Mileage: 21070km-13092miles
    
    01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
    10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    18-Aux. Heat -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
    42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
    44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
    5F-Information Electr. -- Status: OK 0000
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine (J623-CZCA)       Labels:. 04E-907-309-V1.clb
       Part No SW: 04E 906 027 HB    HW: 04E 907 309 BH
       Component: R4 1.4l TFS   H25 2833  
       Revision: R7H25---    
       Coding: 0119003223241D082000
       Shop #: WSC 21385 002 1048576
       ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM14TFS01104E906027HB 001005
       ROD: EV_ECM14TFS01104E906027HB.rod
       VCID: 6B833BBF03045EDFB46-803E
    
       CAN Converter 01: 
    
    No fault code found.
    Readiness: 0000 0000
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels:. 5Q0-907-379-IPB-V1.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 614 517 CC    HW: 5Q0 614 517 AG
       Component: ESC           H62 0637  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 91596000011507
       Coding: 01FA6AA1242219704779060841C62980562498E2608294730020507AC00203
       Shop #: WSC 131071 102 209715
       ASAM Dataset: EV_Brake1UDSContiMK100IPB 035019
       ROD: EV_Brake1UDSContiMK100IPB_035_VW27.rod
       VCID: 74B120C35E3A812765C-8020
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels:| 5G0-907-044.clb
       Part No SW: 5G0 907 044 BE    HW: 5G0 907 044 BE
       Component: Climatronic   H03 1001  
       Revision: 00001K08    
       Coding: 00020004104111011005004000101022
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_ACClimaBHBVW37X 003018
       ROD: EV_ACClimaBHBVW37X_003_VW37.rod
       VCID: 6B833BBF03045EDFB46-803E
    
       Fresh Air Blower Front: 
    
       Refrigerant Pressure And Temperature Sender: 
    
       Air quality sensor: 
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:| 5Q0-937-08X-HV1.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 937 084 BR    HW: 5Q0 937 084 AJ
       Component: BCM MQBAB H   H18 0138  
       Serial number: 01011415700037
       Coding: 00000846C20102FB4B644080B11407281400000000000000000000000000
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_BCMCONTI 013000
       ROD: EV_BCMBOSCH_013.rod
       VCID: 094F613729B8ECCF26A-805C
    
       Control Unit For Wiper Motor: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5G1 955 119 A    HW: 5G1 955 119 A  Labels: 5QX-955-119-V1.CLB
       Component: WWS    160522  043 0551 
       Serial number:         160601172917
       Coding: 0E4DFD
    
       Rain Light Recognition Sensor: 
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5Q0 955 547 B    HW: 5Q0 955 547 B  Labels: 5Q0-955-547.CLB
       Component: RLHS  042 0105 
       Serial number: S5Y17M06D01H13M38S50
       Coding: 06A8DD
    
       Sensor For Anti Theft Alarm System: 
       Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 5Q0 951 172     HW: 5Q0 951 172 
       Component: Sensor, DWA  005 0315 
       Serial number: 000000000ZY15028208R
    
       Alarm horn: 
       Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 5Q0 951 605     HW: 5Q0 951 605 
       Component: Sirene, DWA  004 0311 
       Serial number: 00000000000030139763
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J791)       Labels:| 5Q0-919-298.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 919 298 D    HW: 5Q0 919 298 
       Component: PARKHILFE PLA H11 0042  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 61131402901978
       Coding: 0031161041
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_EPHVA2CAU3700000 003019
       ROD: EV_EPHVA2CAU3700000_003_VW37.rod
       VCID: 40D9BC135A026D87314-8014
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 5Q0-959-655.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 959 655 D    HW: 5Q0 959 655 D
       Component: AirbagVW20    015 0388  
       Serial number: 003F6R1V1W4Y
       Coding: 98CCC000000000005C0000CF004800000065
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW20SMEVW37X 002130
       ROD: EV_AirbaVW20SMEVW37X_VW37.rod
       VCID: 41DFB9175108648F3EA-8014
    
       Side Sensor Driver Front: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 001 506 16
       Component: SideSensor_Df  001 0887 
       Serial number: 35767000000432B44C1Q
       Coding: 2D2D2D
    
       Side Sensor Passenger Front: 
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 001 506 16
       Component: SideSensor_Pf  001 0887 
       Serial number: 358670000008B4C4DB17
       Coding: 2D2D2D
    
       Side Sensor Driver Rear: 
       Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 400 306 16
       Component: SideSensor_Dr  001 6149 
       Serial number: 3516502BB205729313D3
       Coding: 2D2D2D
    
       Side Sensor Passenger Rear: 
       Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 401 105 16
       Component: SideSensor_Pr  001 6149 
       Serial number: 3526502AF2076340F201
       Coding: 2D2D2D
    
       Front Sensor Driver: 
       Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 401 106 16
       Component: FrontSensor_D  001 6149 
       Serial number: 35565029B21160C1025X
       Coding: 2D2D2D
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels:| 5Q0-953-549.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 953 507 FT    HW: 5Q0 953 549 F
       Component: Lenks. Modul  003 0140  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 13061608490829
       Coding: 0400
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_SMLSKLOMQB 020002
       ROD: EV_SMLSKLOMQB_VW37.rod
       VCID: 0D4755275DD0F0EF0A2-8058
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5G0-920-XXX-17.clb-SRI3
       Part No SW: 5G1 920 750 B    HW: 5G1 920 750 B
       Component: KOMBI         303 8311  
       Coding: 03A501002390000D02083B001400000000000000
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB 009051
       ROD: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB_009_VW37.rod
       VCID: 26150A8BD866A3B72B8-8072
    
    1 Fault Found:
    16777034 - Function Restricted due to Interrupted Communications 
              U1110 00 [008] - -
              [BAP_DoorLocking_0x0D keine Kommunikation]
              Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 6
                        Fault Frequency: 2
                        Reset counter: 195
                        Mileage: 21060 km
                        Date: 2018.09.16
                        Time: 15:29:53
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 18: Aux. Heat (J364)       Labels:| 5Q0-963-272.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 963 272 B    HW: 5Q0 963 272 B
       Component: STH-MQB       006 0069  
       Coding: 1305
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_AuxilParkiHeateWOS 002014
       ROD: EV_AuxilParkiHeateWOS.rod
       VCID: 3537DDC715C0D82F922-8060
    
       Remote Control Auxiliary Heater: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5Q0 963 513 A    HW: 5Q0 963 513 A
       Component: R149 T91-LIN  003 0301 
       Serial number: 00000000000001256652
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:| 5Q0-907-530-V1.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 907 530 AL    HW: 5Q0 907 530 E
       Component: GW MQB Mid    127 1265  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 0005024934
       Coding: 030100043F085700FB000248080F00010001050000000000000000000000
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_GatewLear 013020
       ROD: EV_GatewLear_013_VW37.rod
       VCID: 7BA30BFF7364CE5F246-802E
    
       Alternator: 
    
       Multi Function Steering Wheel Control Module: 
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5G0 959 442 M    HW: 5G0 959 442 M  Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
       Component: E221__MFL-DC1  H11 0103 
       Serial number: 29160001142480026234
       Coding: 28FFFF
    
       Battery Monitoring Control Module: 
       Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 5Q0 915 181 K    HW: 5Q0 915 181 K
       Component: J367-BDMHella  H10 9070 
       Serial number: 8442320304          
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels:| 5QX-959-X93-42.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 959 593 E    HW: 5Q0 959 593 B
       Component: TSG FS        020 0041  
       Serial number: 300516EEU02971
       Coding: 003B0320D000040100001000
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_DCUDriveSideEWMAXKLO 006003
       ROD: EV_DCUDriveSideEWMAXCONT.rod
       VCID: 43D3B31F4B14769F2C6-8016
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 44: Steering Assist (J500)       Labels:| 5Q0-909-144.clb
       Part No SW: 3Q0 909 144 K    HW: 3Q0 909 144 H
       Component: EPS_MQB_ZFLS  506 5072  
       Coding: 8307
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_SteerAssisMQB 013144
       ROD: EV_SteerAssisMQB_013.rod
       VCID: 3A2DCEFB3CDE37577F0-806E
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels:| 5QX-959-X92-52.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 959 592 E    HW: 5Q0 959 592 B
       Component: TSG BFS       020 0041  
       Serial number: 280516EER24731
       Coding: 003B0120DE00040100801000
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_DCUPasseSideEWMAXKLO 006003
       ROD: EV_DCUPasseSideEWMAXCONT.rod
       VCID: 42DDB61B540E7F97270-8016
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794)       Labels:| 5G0-035-MIB-STD2.clb
       Part No SW: 3Q0 035 824 B    HW: 3Q0 035 824 B
       Component: MU-S--ER      710 0744  
       Serial number:               
       Coding: 02730000AA0000005111000100080A001F0206D40120010003
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_MUStd4CDELP 001001
       ROD: EV_MUStd4CDELP_VW27.rod
       VCID: 2C01F8A3C68A99E7FDC-8078
    
       Operating And Display Unit 1: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 3G0 919 605 B    HW: 3G0 919 605 B
       Component: ABT_Std-2  H53 1031 
       Serial number: VWZ8Z9SJT00QNA      
    
    No fault code found.
    
    End----------(Elapsed Time: 01:49, VBatt start/end: 12.4V/12.4V)-----------

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