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    Auxiliary Display on Mk V GTI

    I have retrofitted the 2015 Scirocco Auxiliary Display Meter onto my Mk V GTI .

    Got everything working except for the Charge Air metering. The module have been connected to the Dash Panel Insert CAN at Gateway #8 & #18.

    Oil Temperature, Time and Stop Watch is working okay but nothing on the Charge Air.

    From 01 Engine, I could see the charged air metering (Block 117 -4 and 119-4) but this information doesn't seem to be captured by the Gateway. Tried going into adaptation for 117 and 119 but error message say it is not available.

    From 19 Gateway, there is a measuring block 200-4 for charge air status but there is no reading.


    Long Coding on the Aux Display have been preset by factory at 05. There is no information on the various bits in the long coding helper. I tried various coding from 01 to 09 which is accepted but does not seem to work the turbo gauge. Selecting the other bits would return a "Out of Range" error message.

    Any advice would be appreciated.


    The Scirocco 2015 Auxiliary Meter placed on top of the Mk5 Dashboard temporarily




    The Gateway is not showing any data for the Charge Air status




    The Engine measuring block shows that boost pressure is metered



    Code:
    Saturday,18,October,2014,17:01:26:24118
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator
    VCDS Version: 12.12.3.0 (x64)
    Data version: 20140822
    
    Dealer/Shop Name: CBX Auto Services
    Workshop Code: 620 92386 091777
    
    VIN: WVWZZZ1KZ9U015224   License Plate: GTI JIMMY MK5 B9 AUX DISPLAY
    
    
    
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    
    Chassis Type: 1K (7N0)
    Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 10 15 16 17 19 25 2E 37 42 44 46 47 52 55 56
              62 65 72 77 B9
    
    VIN: WVWZZZ1KZ9U015224   
    
    01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
    02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
    04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
    10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
    25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
    2E-Media Player 3 -- Status: OK 0000
    37-Navigation -- Status: OK 0000
    42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
    44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
    47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
    52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
    55-Xenon Range -- Status: OK 0000
    56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
    62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
    65-Tire Pressure -- Status: OK 0000
    72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
    77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000
    B9-Aux. Display -- Status: OK 0000
     
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine        Labels: 06F-907-115-AXX.lbl
       Part No SW: 1K0 907 115 Q    HW: 8P0 907 115 B
       Component: 2.0l R4/4V TFSI     0020  
       Revision: 5BH16---    Serial number: VWX7Z0H83N98IY
       Coding: 040300431C070160
       Shop #: WSC 66565 257 00032
       VCID: 346DF3EA576559BE4F5-8061
    
    No fault code found.
    Readiness: 0000 0000
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 02E-927-770.lbl
       Part No SW: 02E 300 051 C    HW: 02E 927 770 AJ
       Component: GSG DSG AG6     431 1817  
       Revision: 04843012    Serial number: 00000807071566
       Coding: 0000020
       Shop #: WSC 44551 111 44551
       VCID: 132F5076322BBE8636F-8046
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels: 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb
       Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 BJ    HW: 1K0 907 379 BJ
       Component: ESP MK60EC1   H31 0121  
       Revision: 00H31001    
       Coding: 163B600D092300FF680D06E6901D0081B50950
       Shop #: WSC 92386 620 91777
       VCID: 7BFF18D6FABB56C6CEF-802E
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels: 5K0-907-044.clb
       Part No SW: 5K0 907 044 AK    HW: 5K0 907 044 AK
       Component: Climatronic   130 0303  
       Revision: 00002001    
       Coding: 0000000000
       Shop #: WSC 92386 620 91777
       ASAM Dataset: EV_Climatronic A01001
       ROD: EV_ClimaAutoBasis_SE36.rod
       VCID: 74ED33EADFE519BE8F5-8021
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels: 3C0-937-049-30-H.lbl
       Part No SW: 3C8 937 049 E    HW: 3C8 937 049 E
       Component: Bordnetz-SG     H54 2602  
       Revision: 00H54000    Serial number: 00000008814327
       Coding: E78D8F270004150047140000140000000009FE075C000100000000000000
       Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
       VCID: 336FF0F6526B5E8656F-8066
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K2 955 119 E  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
       Component: Wischer 041108 020  0501  
       Coding: 00049109
       Shop #: WSC 12345  
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 955 559 AF  Labels: 1K0-955-559-AF.CLB
       Component: RLS     290708 046  0204  
       Coding: 00208933
       Shop #: WSC 12345  
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J791)       Labels: 3AA-919-475.clb
       Part No SW: 3AA 919 475 M    HW: 4H0 919 475 E
       Component: PARKHILFE PLA H06 0030  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 56261303601016
       Coding: 349101
       Shop #: WSC 92386 620 91777
       ASAM Dataset: EV_EPHVA2C000000000 002011
       ROD: EV_EPHVA2C000000000_VW36.rod
       VCID: 458BBE2EC4FFD036E8B-8010
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 1K0-909-605.lbl
       Part No SW: 1K0 909 605 T    HW: 1K0 909 605 T
       Component: 3C AIRBAG VW8   020 2300  
       Revision: 05020000    Serial number: 0038PD25X6Z1  
       Coding: 0013123
       Shop #: WSC 00046 412 31414
       VCID: 3D7BD6CE642F98F6B0B-8068
    
       Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 6332MSME3F5622105
    
       Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6342MSME3F512A77M
    
       Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6352QSME3A00200E6
    
       Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6362QSME3807141AC
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY9.lbl
       Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 CH    HW: 1K0 953 549 CH
       Component: J0527           056 0111  
       Coding: 0001832
       Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
       VCID: 7AF11DD235816FCED59-802F
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 5K0 959 542   Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
       Component: E221__MFL-TAS   H08 0010  
       Coding: 00000131
       Shop #: WSC 00000  
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb
       Part No SW: 56D 920 880 AX    HW: 56D 920 880 AX
       Component: KOMBI         H04 0505  
       Serial number: 00000000000000
       Coding: 570F01
       Shop #: WSC 92386 620 91777
       ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04716
       ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_VW21.rod
       VCID: 830FE0360A4BAE0606F-80D6
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels: 7N0-907-530-V2.clb
       Part No SW: 7N0 907 530 AN    HW: 7N0 907 530 AN
       Component: J533  Gateway H56 1642  
       Revision:   H56       Serial number: 05021400F14335
       Coding: 350003
       Shop #: WSC 92386 620 91777
       VCID: 7CFD1BCAFFB551FEC75-8029
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
       Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234 
       Component: IMMO          H04 0505  
       Serial number: VWX7Z0H83N98IY
       Coding: 000000
       Shop #: WSC 30125 743 116003
       ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03709
       ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_SE36.rod
       VCID: EAD1AD920D215F4EA59-80BF
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 2E: Media Player 3 (J650)       Labels: 5N0-035-342.lbl
       Part No SW: 5N0 035 342 C    HW: 5N0 035 342 C
       Component: SG EXT.PLAYER H13 0111  
       Revision: A1001003    Serial number: 7668831664    
       Coding: 010000
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 275714A656B32226FA7-8072
    
    1 Fault Found:
    03138 - Input AUX IN 
                009 - Open or Short to Ground
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01101001
                        Fault Priority: 4
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 3
                        Mileage: 93654 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2002.14.29
                        Time: 16:58:03
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 37: Navigation (J0506)       Labels: 1T0-035-680.clb
       Part No SW: 1T0 035 680 D    HW: 1T0 035 680 D
       Component: RNS-MID       H60 4120  
       Revision: AB001001    Serial number: VWZ6Z7L5247153
       Coding: 00050042010000800000
       Shop #: WSC 92386 620 91777
       VCID: 2F67FC867E437A66327-807A
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 7L6 919 859 J
       Component: SIMA V5  7960 
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels: 1K0-959-701-MAX3.lbl
       Part No SW: 1K0 959 701 N    HW: 1K0 959 701 N
       Component: Tuer-SG         006 1210  
       Coding: 0000758
       Shop #: WSC 13572 020 00252
       VCID: 3973C2DE7007A4D69C3-806C
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1Kx-909-14x-44.clb
       Part No: 1K0 909 144 C
       Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 69     2301  
       Revision: 00H15000    
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 2A51ED9285A11F4EE59-807F
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels: 1K0-959-433-MAX.clb
       Part No SW: 1K0 959 433 BT    HW: 1K0 959 433 BT
       Component:    KSG PQ35 G2  020 0204  
       Revision: 00020000    Serial number: 00000000000000
       Coding: 98900A005103087F2D020F0FF0C8DFC690FC00
       Shop #: WSC 92386 620 91777
       VCID: 830FE036C24BAE0606F-80D6
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
       Component: LIN BACKUP HORN H03 1301
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 951 178 A
       Component: Neigungssensor  003 0203
    
       Subsystem 3 - Part No: 1K0 951 178 A
       Component: Innenraumueberw.003 0203
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 47: Sound System        Labels: 3C0-035-456.lbl
       Part No SW: 3C8 035 456 C    HW: 3C8 035 456 C
       Component: DSP 10 Kanal      
       Revision: 00H05001    Serial number: 75805000261201
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 2855179A9BAD2D5EF3D-807D
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels: 1K0-959-702-MAX3.lbl
       Part No SW: 1K0 959 702 N    HW: 1K0 959 702 N
       Component: Tuer-SG         006 1210  
       Coding: 0001014
       Shop #: WSC 00046 412 31414
       VCID: 3A71DDD27501AFCE959-806F
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 55: Xenon Range        Labels: 1T0-907-357.lbl
       Part No: 1T0 907 357 
       Component: Dynamische LWR      0003  
       Coding: 0000003
       Shop #: WSC 00046 412 31414
       VCID: F4EDB3EA97E599BE0F5-80A1
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 56: Radio (J0506)       Labels: 1T0-035-680.clb
       Part No SW: 1T0 035 680 D    HW: 1T0 035 680 D
       Component: RNS-MID       H60 4120  
       Revision: AB001001    Serial number: VWZ6Z7L5247153
       Coding: 00050042010000800000
       Shop #: WSC 92386 620 91777
       VCID: 2F67FC867E437A66327-807A
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 7L6 919 859 J
       Component: SIMA V5  7960 
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 62: Door, Rear Left        Labels: 1K0-959-703-GEN3.lbl
       Part No SW: 1K0 959 703 K    HW: 1K0 959 703 K
       Component: Tuer-SG         006 1301  
       Coding: 0000208
       Shop #: WSC 00046 412 1012557
       VCID: 3875C7DA4B0DBDDE63D-806D
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 65: Tire Pressure (J502)       Labels: 3AA-907-273.clb
       Part No SW: 3AA 907 273 D    HW: 3AA 907 273 D
       Component: RDKBERU30     H09 0010  
       Serial number: 40000000007761
       ASAM Dataset: EV_RDKBERU30 003012
       ROD: EV_RDKBERU30_SE36.rod
       VCID: 356BCEEE941F40B678B-8060
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 72: Door, Rear Right        Labels: 1K0-959-704-GEN3.lbl
       Part No SW: 1K0 959 704 K    HW: 1K0 959 704 K
       Component: Tuer-SG         006 1301  
       Coding: 0000208
       Shop #: WSC 00046 412 1012557
       VCID: 3973C2DE7007A4D69C3-806C
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 77: Telephone (J412)       Labels: 7P6-035-730.clb
       Part No SW: 7P6 035 730 L    HW: 7P6 035 730 L
       Component: TELEFON       H15 3200  
       Revision: 1B001001    Serial number: 00AAAA63112800
       Coding: 0210000000010110
       Shop #: WSC 92386 620 91777
       ASAM Dataset: EV_UHVNA 002720
       ROD: EV_UHVNA.rod
       VCID: 3B7FD8D6B23B96C68EF-806E
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address B9: Aux. Display (J285)       Labels: None
       Part No SW: 1K8 919 527 B    HW: 1K8 919 527 B
       Component: ZUSATZANZEIGE H08 0003  
       Serial number: 00000000000000
       Coding: 08
       Shop #: WSC 92386 620 91777
       ASAM Dataset: EV_Auxi_Disp_Unit_UDS_VDD 001010
       ROD: EV_Auxi_Disp_Unit_UDS_VDD.rod
       VCID: 3777C4E68E13B2A66A7-8062
    
    No fault code found.
    
    End   ---------------------------------------------------------------------
    Last edited by Uwe; 10-27-2014 at 08:10 AM. Reason: Fixed CODE tags

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    Chances are your ECU doesn't broadcast a CAN message with charge ("boost") pressure.

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    The Boost Pressure (Specified) is the same as the charge (boost) pressure, is it not ?

    Is it possible to use this information or write/modify/adaptation ?

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    Specified is what the ECU wants.
    Actual is what is being meaured.

    VCDS starts a diagnostic session and makes active queries. However, I believe that gauge panel just listens passively on the bus for data broadcast by the ECU on the bus, and if your ECU does not broadcast the data that the panel needs, then it isn't going to work. VCDS cannot change what messages are broadcast by the ECU.

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    Do this same Measure Block in B9 module to see .
    But i think this same as UWE.
    If you use PolarFIS for example, they can display Turbo pressure etc from any ECU.
    Hard to say if B9 module understand that signals to display it
    Last edited by Spacewalker; 10-27-2014 at 03:31 PM.
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    Bro Spacewalker, are you suggesting that the PolarFIS may capture the boost charge data and share it on the LAN and the B9 Module may read this data ?

    Tried reading the measuring block of the B9 module today but the B9 Block Measure for Boost Charge is blank....meaning it is not reading anything ?

    I get this error every now and then....clear it but it appears again later...

    Tuesday,28,October,2014,09:26:37:24118
    VCDS Version: Release 12.12.3 (x64)
    CBX Auto Services
    Address B9: Aux. Display Labels: None
    Control Module Part Number: 1K8 919 527 B HW: 1K8 919 527 B
    Component and/or Version: ZUSATZANZEIGE H08 0003
    Software Coding: 07
    Work Shop Code: WSC 92386 620 91777
    ASAM Dataset: EV_Auxi_Disp_Unit_UDS_VDD 001010 (VW36)
    VCID: 3777C4E68E13B2A66A7-8062
    1 Fault Found:

    2097157 - Databus
    U1123 00 [008] - Received Error Message
    Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 00000001
    Fault Priority: 6
    Fault Frequency: 1
    Reset counter: 51
    Mileage: 93793 km
    Date: 2003.14.07
    Time: 09:21:06

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    I try to said that Polar FIS can read that data and display it onto CLUSTER DISPLAY
    But POLAR fis was made after lot of research.
    B9 controller - design for one car , and that is it
    if you have "Receive Error... " here is a reason.
    What I will try is install B9 in younger car - to see if ECU SW is matter
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    Got the POLAR FIS Advanced fitted. Everything that the manufacturer promised, was delivered. But the 2015 Aux cluster still cannot function. They have 3 boost parameters include Atmospheric Boost but none of them worked for me.....


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    any update ?
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    I got the latest AS Gateway..................installed but it does not work.

    Looks like the only way is for VW to release a new program with the Turbo Charge Status. A new firmware perhaps ?

    But this would never happen.

    Got to live with an auxiliary display which the Turbo Gauge doesn't work



    Last edited by cbx750p; 12-26-2014 at 07:39 PM.

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