Auxiliary Display on Mk V GTI

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I have retrofitted the 2015 Scirocco Auxiliary Display Meter onto my Mk V GTI .

Got everything working except for the Charge Air metering. The module have been connected to the Dash Panel Insert CAN at Gateway #8 & #18.

Oil Temperature, Time and Stop Watch is working okay but nothing on the Charge Air.

From 01 Engine, I could see the charged air metering (Block 117 -4 and 119-4) but this information doesn't seem to be captured by the Gateway. Tried going into adaptation for 117 and 119 but error message say it is not available.

From 19 Gateway, there is a measuring block 200-4 for charge air status but there is no reading.


Long Coding on the Aux Display have been preset by factory at 05. There is no information on the various bits in the long coding helper. I tried various coding from 01 to 09 which is accepted but does not seem to work the turbo gauge. Selecting the other bits would return a "Out of Range" error message.

Any advice would be appreciated.

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The Scirocco 2015 Auxiliary Meter placed on top of the Mk5 Dashboard temporarily



GTIBoostMeasureGateway_zpsdb6686bc.jpg

The Gateway is not showing any data for the Charge Air status



GTIBoostMeasure_zpsbb176bc4.jpg

The Engine measuring block shows that boost pressure is metered



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Saturday,18,October,2014,17:01:26:24118
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator
VCDS Version: 12.12.3.0 (x64)
Data version: 20140822

Dealer/Shop Name: CBX Auto Services
Workshop Code: 620 92386 091777

VIN: WVWZZZ1KZ9U015224   License Plate: GTI JIMMY MK5 B9 AUX DISPLAY



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Chassis Type: 1K (7N0)
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 10 15 16 17 19 25 2E 37 42 44 46 47 52 55 56
          62 65 72 77 B9

VIN: WVWZZZ1KZ9U015224   

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
2E-Media Player 3 -- Status: OK 0000
37-Navigation -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
55-Xenon Range -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
65-Tire Pressure -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000
B9-Aux. Display -- Status: OK 0000
 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine        Labels: 06F-907-115-AXX.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 115 Q    HW: 8P0 907 115 B
   Component: 2.0l R4/4V TFSI     0020  
   Revision: 5BH16---    Serial number: VWX7Z0H83N98IY
   Coding: 040300431C070160
   Shop #: WSC 66565 257 00032
   VCID: 346DF3EA576559BE4F5-8061

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0000 0000

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Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 02E-927-770.lbl
   Part No SW: 02E 300 051 C    HW: 02E 927 770 AJ
   Component: GSG DSG AG6     431 1817  
   Revision: 04843012    Serial number: 00000807071566
   Coding: 0000020
   Shop #: WSC 44551 111 44551
   VCID: 132F5076322BBE8636F-8046

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels: 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 BJ    HW: 1K0 907 379 BJ
   Component: ESP MK60EC1   H31 0121  
   Revision: 00H31001    
   Coding: 163B600D092300FF680D06E6901D0081B50950
   Shop #: WSC 92386 620 91777
   VCID: 7BFF18D6FABB56C6CEF-802E

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels: 5K0-907-044.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 907 044 AK    HW: 5K0 907 044 AK
   Component: Climatronic   130 0303  
   Revision: 00002001    
   Coding: 0000000000
   Shop #: WSC 92386 620 91777
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Climatronic A01001
   ROD: EV_ClimaAutoBasis_SE36.rod
   VCID: 74ED33EADFE519BE8F5-8021

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels: 3C0-937-049-30-H.lbl
   Part No SW: 3C8 937 049 E    HW: 3C8 937 049 E
   Component: Bordnetz-SG     H54 2602  
   Revision: 00H54000    Serial number: 00000008814327
   Coding: E78D8F270004150047140000140000000009FE075C000100000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   VCID: 336FF0F6526B5E8656F-8066

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K2 955 119 E  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer 041108 020  0501  
   Coding: 00049109
   Shop #: WSC 12345  

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 955 559 AF  Labels: 1K0-955-559-AF.CLB
   Component: RLS     290708 046  0204  
   Coding: 00208933
   Shop #: WSC 12345  

No fault code found.

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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J791)       Labels: 3AA-919-475.clb
   Part No SW: 3AA 919 475 M    HW: 4H0 919 475 E
   Component: PARKHILFE PLA H06 0030  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 56261303601016
   Coding: 349101
   Shop #: WSC 92386 620 91777
   ASAM Dataset: EV_EPHVA2C000000000 002011
   ROD: EV_EPHVA2C000000000_VW36.rod
   VCID: 458BBE2EC4FFD036E8B-8010

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 1K0-909-605.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 909 605 T    HW: 1K0 909 605 T
   Component: 3C AIRBAG VW8   020 2300  
   Revision: 05020000    Serial number: 0038PD25X6Z1  
   Coding: 0013123
   Shop #: WSC 00046 412 31414
   VCID: 3D7BD6CE642F98F6B0B-8068

   Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 6332MSME3F5622105

   Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6342MSME3F512A77M

   Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6352QSME3A00200E6

   Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6362QSME3807141AC

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY9.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 CH    HW: 1K0 953 549 CH
   Component: J0527           056 0111  
   Coding: 0001832
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   VCID: 7AF11DD235816FCED59-802F

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 5K0 959 542   Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
   Component: E221__MFL-TAS   H08 0010  
   Coding: 00000131
   Shop #: WSC 00000  

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb
   Part No SW: 56D 920 880 AX    HW: 56D 920 880 AX
   Component: KOMBI         H04 0505  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 570F01
   Shop #: WSC 92386 620 91777
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04716
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_VW21.rod
   VCID: 830FE0360A4BAE0606F-80D6

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels: 7N0-907-530-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 907 530 AN    HW: 7N0 907 530 AN
   Component: J533  Gateway H56 1642  
   Revision:   H56       Serial number: 05021400F14335
   Coding: 350003
   Shop #: WSC 92386 620 91777
   VCID: 7CFD1BCAFFB551FEC75-8029

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234 
   Component: IMMO          H04 0505  
   Serial number: VWX7Z0H83N98IY
   Coding: 000000
   Shop #: WSC 30125 743 116003
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03709
   ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_SE36.rod
   VCID: EAD1AD920D215F4EA59-80BF

No fault code found.

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Address 2E: Media Player 3 (J650)       Labels: 5N0-035-342.lbl
   Part No SW: 5N0 035 342 C    HW: 5N0 035 342 C
   Component: SG EXT.PLAYER H13 0111  
   Revision: A1001003    Serial number: 7668831664    
   Coding: 010000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 275714A656B32226FA7-8072

1 Fault Found:
03138 - Input AUX IN 
            009 - Open or Short to Ground
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101001
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 3
                    Mileage: 93654 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2002.14.29
                    Time: 16:58:03


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Address 37: Navigation (J0506)       Labels: 1T0-035-680.clb
   Part No SW: 1T0 035 680 D    HW: 1T0 035 680 D
   Component: RNS-MID       H60 4120  
   Revision: AB001001    Serial number: VWZ6Z7L5247153
   Coding: 00050042010000800000
   Shop #: WSC 92386 620 91777
   VCID: 2F67FC867E437A66327-807A

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 7L6 919 859 J
   Component: SIMA V5  7960 

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels: 1K0-959-701-MAX3.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 701 N    HW: 1K0 959 701 N
   Component: Tuer-SG         006 1210  
   Coding: 0000758
   Shop #: WSC 13572 020 00252
   VCID: 3973C2DE7007A4D69C3-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1Kx-909-14x-44.clb
   Part No: 1K0 909 144 C
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 69     2301  
   Revision: 00H15000    
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 2A51ED9285A11F4EE59-807F

No fault code found.

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Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels: 1K0-959-433-MAX.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 433 BT    HW: 1K0 959 433 BT
   Component:    KSG PQ35 G2  020 0204  
   Revision: 00020000    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 98900A005103087F2D020F0FF0C8DFC690FC00
   Shop #: WSC 92386 620 91777
   VCID: 830FE036C24BAE0606F-80D6

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
   Component: LIN BACKUP HORN H03 1301

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 951 178 A
   Component: Neigungssensor  003 0203

   Subsystem 3 - Part No: 1K0 951 178 A
   Component: Innenraumueberw.003 0203

No fault code found.

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Address 47: Sound System        Labels: 3C0-035-456.lbl
   Part No SW: 3C8 035 456 C    HW: 3C8 035 456 C
   Component: DSP 10 Kanal      
   Revision: 00H05001    Serial number: 75805000261201
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 2855179A9BAD2D5EF3D-807D

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels: 1K0-959-702-MAX3.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 702 N    HW: 1K0 959 702 N
   Component: Tuer-SG         006 1210  
   Coding: 0001014
   Shop #: WSC 00046 412 31414
   VCID: 3A71DDD27501AFCE959-806F

No fault code found.

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Address 55: Xenon Range        Labels: 1T0-907-357.lbl
   Part No: 1T0 907 357 
   Component: Dynamische LWR      0003  
   Coding: 0000003
   Shop #: WSC 00046 412 31414
   VCID: F4EDB3EA97E599BE0F5-80A1

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio (J0506)       Labels: 1T0-035-680.clb
   Part No SW: 1T0 035 680 D    HW: 1T0 035 680 D
   Component: RNS-MID       H60 4120  
   Revision: AB001001    Serial number: VWZ6Z7L5247153
   Coding: 00050042010000800000
   Shop #: WSC 92386 620 91777
   VCID: 2F67FC867E437A66327-807A

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 7L6 919 859 J
   Component: SIMA V5  7960 

No fault code found.

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Address 62: Door, Rear Left        Labels: 1K0-959-703-GEN3.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 703 K    HW: 1K0 959 703 K
   Component: Tuer-SG         006 1301  
   Coding: 0000208
   Shop #: WSC 00046 412 1012557
   VCID: 3875C7DA4B0DBDDE63D-806D

No fault code found.

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Address 65: Tire Pressure (J502)       Labels: 3AA-907-273.clb
   Part No SW: 3AA 907 273 D    HW: 3AA 907 273 D
   Component: RDKBERU30     H09 0010  
   Serial number: 40000000007761
   ASAM Dataset: EV_RDKBERU30 003012
   ROD: EV_RDKBERU30_SE36.rod
   VCID: 356BCEEE941F40B678B-8060

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 72: Door, Rear Right        Labels: 1K0-959-704-GEN3.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 704 K    HW: 1K0 959 704 K
   Component: Tuer-SG         006 1301  
   Coding: 0000208
   Shop #: WSC 00046 412 1012557
   VCID: 3973C2DE7007A4D69C3-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 77: Telephone (J412)       Labels: 7P6-035-730.clb
   Part No SW: 7P6 035 730 L    HW: 7P6 035 730 L
   Component: TELEFON       H15 3200  
   Revision: 1B001001    Serial number: 00AAAA63112800
   Coding: 0210000000010110
   Shop #: WSC 92386 620 91777
   ASAM Dataset: EV_UHVNA 002720
   ROD: EV_UHVNA.rod
   VCID: 3B7FD8D6B23B96C68EF-806E

No fault code found.

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Address B9: Aux. Display (J285)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 1K8 919 527 B    HW: 1K8 919 527 B
   Component: ZUSATZANZEIGE H08 0003  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 08
   Shop #: WSC 92386 620 91777
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Auxi_Disp_Unit_UDS_VDD 001010
   ROD: EV_Auxi_Disp_Unit_UDS_VDD.rod
   VCID: 3777C4E68E13B2A66A7-8062

No fault code found.

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Chances are your ECU doesn't broadcast a CAN message with charge ("boost") pressure.

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The Boost Pressure (Specified) is the same as the charge (boost) pressure, is it not ?

Is it possible to use this information or write/modify/adaptation ?
 
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Specified is what the ECU wants.
Actual is what is being meaured.

VCDS starts a diagnostic session and makes active queries. However, I believe that gauge panel just listens passively on the bus for data broadcast by the ECU on the bus, and if your ECU does not broadcast the data that the panel needs, then it isn't going to work. VCDS cannot change what messages are broadcast by the ECU.

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Do this same Measure Block in B9 module to see .
But i think this same as UWE.
If you use PolarFIS for example, they can display Turbo pressure etc from any ECU.
Hard to say if B9 module understand that signals to display it
 
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Bro Spacewalker, are you suggesting that the PolarFIS may capture the boost charge data and share it on the LAN and the B9 Module may read this data ?

Tried reading the measuring block of the B9 module today but the B9 Block Measure for Boost Charge is blank....meaning it is not reading anything ?

I get this error every now and then....clear it but it appears again later...

Tuesday,28,October,2014,09:26:37:24118
VCDS Version: Release 12.12.3 (x64)
CBX Auto Services
Address B9: Aux. Display Labels: None
Control Module Part Number: 1K8 919 527 B HW: 1K8 919 527 B
Component and/or Version: ZUSATZANZEIGE H08 0003
Software Coding: 07
Work Shop Code: WSC 92386 620 91777
ASAM Dataset: EV_Auxi_Disp_Unit_UDS_VDD 001010 (VW36)
VCID: 3777C4E68E13B2A66A7-8062
1 Fault Found:

2097157 - Databus
U1123 00 [008] - Received Error Message
Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 6
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 51
Mileage: 93793 km
Date: 2003.14.07
Time: 09:21:06
 
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I try to said that Polar FIS can read that data and display it onto CLUSTER DISPLAY
But POLAR fis was made after lot of research.
B9 controller - design for one car , and that is it
if you have "Receive Error... " here is a reason.
What I will try is install B9 in younger car - to see if ECU SW is matter
 
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Got the POLAR FIS Advanced fitted. Everything that the manufacturer promised, was delivered. But the 2015 Aux cluster still cannot function. They have 3 boost parameters include Atmospheric Boost but none of them worked for me..... :mad:

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any update ?
 
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I got the latest AS Gateway..................installed but it does not work.

Looks like the only way is for VW to release a new program with the Turbo Charge Status. A new firmware perhaps ?

But this would never happen.

Got to live with an auxiliary display which the Turbo Gauge doesn't work

20141107_144436_zps0a9e6cde.jpg


20141108_084816_zpsd4f9c18c.jpg
 
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That is bad. I see there is a new SW for GW - 7N0 907 530 BC , SW1663.
AS is 1653 SW ?
 
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My friend is thinking of installing this to MK6 R. Any info if that ECU sends boost info to CAN?

Any hope of label file for this module?
 
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i have it installed in my Caddy 2006 it does'nt work like it should.. Kufatec cable.

The Needles are lightend, the meters not, the Oil temp does'nt work, the boost gauge starts on 2bar and goes to 2,5 max..

Any idea's what to search for? BCM to old??
 
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is ECU issue
maybe next year I will finish converter to run it in older cars
 
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Maybe it wil work with my new 2.0TFSI ED30engine..
 
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I got the latest AS Gateway..................installed but it does not work.

Looks like the only way is for VW to release a new program with the Turbo Charge Status. A new firmware perhaps ?

But this would never happen.

Got to live with an auxiliary display which the Turbo Gauge doesn't work

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20141108_084816_zpsd4f9c18c.jpg

Hello , did you tried to change the coding of the module from 08 to 05??

Make a try.

Regards

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Hy guys news for this thread? I installed auxiliary instrument in mk5 gti but turbo gauge not working....help me
 
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