Q7 4M - Matrix retrofit from LED

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Hi all,

trying to install some Matrix LEDs into my Q7 4M that came from the factory with LED headlights. I have done all the preliminary work:

1. 2 wire bus from A5 camera to J519 (needed just for Matrix headlights)
2. Front level sensor to J393 and coded for 2 level sensors. (required for Matrix headlights on cars with steel springs)
3. Additional earth wire to existing LED headlight plugs (required for Matrix headlights) as per factory wiring diagrams.

I then connected to the matrix headlights to the headlight plugs and updated the coding for Matrix headlights with what I know and checked for errors:

J393 - 2 level sensors
1. Byte17 Bits 0-1: 03: Front and Rear (LED headlights only come with a sensor on rear axle). No errors on J393

Coding J519:
1. Byte 4 bit 5: turn off high-beam function (only enabled for bi-xenon or LED headlights)
2. Byte 5 bits 5-7: change to "20:Matrix Beam" from "60:Head_light_assist"
3. Byte 30 bit 1-3: 0A: raw_chassis_values_bcm2_1FNS to 0C: raw_chassis_values_bcm2_2FNS (still don't know whether this is needed but results in calibration for headlights on J519)
4. Byte 34 bit0-1: 02 - Variant2 (mine for LED = 01 Variant1 all other Matrix cars have this set to 02)

Coding A5:
Byte21 Bits5-7: 80 Matrix Beam (from 20: High_Beam_Assist)

Errors I am getting are:

Code:
Monday,13,August,2018,12:44:50:19583
VCDS Version: Release 18.2.1 (x64) Running on Windows 10 x64
www.Ross-Tech.com

                Address 09: Cent. Elect.       Labels: None
Control Module Part Number: 8W0 907 063 AG    HW: 8W0 907 063 G
  Component and/or Version: BCM1 MLBevo   H12 0228
           Software Coding: 07501B43C12900CD010D57195B3F0CF913033100800000000000000060001C810A4501AB22B70A
            Work Shop Code: WSC 31414 790 00001
              ASAM Dataset: EV_BCM1BOSCHAU736 015005 (AU49)
                       ROD: EV_BCM1BOSCHAU736_015.rod
                      VCID: 004C4F06834F7C4427-8054
3 Faults Found:

66881 - Databus 
          U1123 00 [009] - Received Error Message  <<< question is which databus? From headlight controllers or A5 camera?
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 123
                    Mileage: 39671 km
                    Date: 2018.08.13
                    Time: 12:44:17

                    average_Voltage_terminals: 11.50 V
                    Outside air temperature sensor-Resistance: 0.00 kOhm
                    Outside air temperature sensor-Outside air temperature on CAN: 19.50 °C
                    interior_temperature: 24.00 °C
                    Vehicle speed: 0.00 km/h
                    Terminal control-Terminal 75 status: On
                    Terminal control-Terminal 15 status signal: On
                    Terminal control-Terminal 15 via CAN: On
                    Terminal control-Term 75: qualification: OFF

66882 - Databus 
          U1123 00 [009] - Received Error Message
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 123
                    Mileage: 39671 km
                    Date: 2018.08.13
                    Time: 12:44:17

                    average_Voltage_terminals: 11.50 V
                    Outside air temperature sensor-Resistance: 0.00 kOhm
                    Outside air temperature sensor-Outside air temperature on CAN: 19.50 °C
                    interior_temperature: 24.00 °C
                    Vehicle speed: 0.00 km/h
                    Terminal control-Terminal 75 status: On
                    Terminal control-Terminal 15 status signal: On
                    Terminal control-Terminal 15 via CAN: On
                    Terminal control-Term 75: qualification: OFF

131364 - Headlight 
          C107E 54 [009] - Missing Calibration / Basic Setting    <<< I only get this if I set byte 30 to "0C" from "0A" - J519 now expects 2 level sensor data...
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 123
                    Mileage: 39671 km
                    Date: 2018.08.13
                    Time: 12:44:17

                    average_Voltage_terminals: 11.50 V
                    Outside air temperature sensor-Resistance: 0.00 kOhm
                    Outside air temperature sensor-Outside air temperature on CAN: 19.50 °C
                    interior_temperature: 24.00 °C
                    Vehicle speed: 0.00 km/h
                    Terminal control-Terminal 75 status: On
                    Terminal control-Terminal 15 status signal: On
                    Terminal control-Terminal 15 via CAN: On
                    Terminal control-Term 75: qualification: OFF

============

Monday,13,August,2018,12:45:19:19583
VCDS Version: Release 18.2.1 (x64) Running on Windows 10 x64
www.Ross-Tech.com

                Address A5: Frt Sens. Drv. Assist       Labels: None
Control Module Part Number: 4M0 907 217 D    HW: 4M0 907 217 A
  Component and/or Version: BVS           H12 0042
           Software Coding: 0407030600000401024023A7C50000B4B0F0C020C080
            Work Shop Code: WSC 00046 123 12345
              ASAM Dataset: EV_BVSMLBevKOSTAAU736 002026 (AU73)
                       ROD: EV_BVSMLBevKOSTAAU736.rod
                      VCID: 2F2EDCBA7651333C8E-807A
4 Faults Found:

1123893 - Databus 
          U1123 00 [009] - Received Error Message
          [LED_Feh_LM_R_03_LED_R_falsch_codiert]
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 123
                    Mileage: 39671 km
                    Date: 2018.08.13
                    Time: 12:36:28

                    Control Module temperature: 46 °C
                    Voltage terminal 15: 11.70 V

1123894 - Databus 
          U1123 00 [009] - Received Error Message
          [LED_Feh_LM_L_03_LED_L_falsch_codiert]
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 123
                    Mileage: 39671 km
                    Date: 2018.08.13
                    Time: 12:36:28

                    Control Module temperature: 46 °C
                    Voltage terminal 15: 11.70 V

1123669 - Left Matrix High Beam 
          C1175 54 [009] - Missing Calibration / Basic Setting
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 123
                    Mileage: 39671 km
                    Date: 2018.08.13
                    Time: 12:36:26

                    Control Module temperature: 45 °C
                    Voltage terminal 15: 11.70 V

1123670 - Right Matrix High Beam 
          C1176 54 [009] - Missing Calibration / Basic Setting
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 123
                    Mileage: 39671 km
                    Date: 2018.08.13
                    Time: 12:36:26

                    Control Module temperature: 45 °C
                    Voltage terminal 15: 11.70 V
 
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question is which databus? From headlight controllers or A5 camera?
Unfortunately, VCDS can only tell you what the control module is willing to tell it, and what descriptive info is available in the ASAM data for that module.

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Unfortunately, VCDS can only tell you what the control module is willing to tell it, and what descriptive info is available in the ASAM data for that module.

-Uwe-

Thanks Uwe.

I think I got Byte 34 wrong - for headlight variant... 00=variant1 (BiXenon) 01=variant2 (LED) and 02=Variant3 (Matrix). I had kept this as 01 instead of changing to 02 (Variant3)... changing back my coding for my original LED lights I changed this byte to 00 (variant1 thinking bits were 01). I then got 6 databus errors!

It would be nice if there were better descriptions than just "databus" error.

Code:
Monday,13,August,2018,18:20:52:19583
VCDS Version: Release 18.2.1 (x64) Running on Windows 10 x64
www.Ross-Tech.com

                Address 09: Cent. Elect.       Labels: None
Control Module Part Number: 8W0 907 063 AG    HW: 8W0 907 063 G
  Component and/or Version: BCM1 MLBevo   H12 0228
           Software Coding: 07501B43E16900CD010D57195B3F0CF913033100800000000000000060001A810A4501AB22B70A
            Work Shop Code: WSC 31414 790 00001
              ASAM Dataset: EV_BCM1BOSCHAU736 015005 (AU73)
                       ROD: EV_BCM1BOSCHAU736_015.rod
                      VCID: 004C4F06834F7C4427-8054
6 Faults Found:

66678 - Databus 
          U1123 00 [008] - Received Error Message
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 3
                    Reset counter: 163
                    Mileage: 39671 km
                    Date: 2018.08.13
                    Time: 16:55:18

                    average_Voltage_terminals: 11.70 V
                    Outside air temperature sensor-Resistance: 0.00 kOhm
                    Outside air temperature sensor-Outside air temperature on CAN: 18.50 °C
                    interior_temperature: 28.50 °C
                    Vehicle speed: 0.00 km/h
                    Terminal control-Terminal 75 status: On
                    Terminal control-Terminal 15 status signal: On
                    Terminal control-Terminal 15 via CAN: On
                    Terminal control-Term 75: qualification: OFF

66679 - Databus 
          U1123 00 [008] - Received Error Message
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 3
                    Reset counter: 163
                    Mileage: 39671 km
                    Date: 2018.08.13
                    Time: 16:55:18

                    average_Voltage_terminals: 11.70 V
                    Outside air temperature sensor-Resistance: 0.00 kOhm
                    Outside air temperature sensor-Outside air temperature on CAN: 18.50 °C
                    interior_temperature: 28.50 °C
                    Vehicle speed: 0.00 km/h
                    Terminal control-Terminal 75 status: On
                    Terminal control-Terminal 15 status signal: On
                    Terminal control-Terminal 15 via CAN: On
                    Terminal control-Term 75: qualification: OFF

66881 - Databus 
          U1123 00 [009] - Received Error Message
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 123
                    Mileage: 39671 km
                    Date: 2018.08.13
                    Time: 16:55:18

                    average_Voltage_terminals: 11.70 V
                    Outside air temperature sensor-Resistance: 0.00 kOhm
                    Outside air temperature sensor-Outside air temperature on CAN: 18.50 °C
                    interior_temperature: 28.50 °C
                    Vehicle speed: 0.00 km/h
                    Terminal control-Terminal 75 status: On
                    Terminal control-Terminal 15 status signal: On
                    Terminal control-Terminal 15 via CAN: On
                    Terminal control-Term 75: qualification: OFF

66882 - Databus 
          U1123 00 [009] - Received Error Message
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 123
                    Mileage: 39671 km
                    Date: 2018.08.13
                    Time: 16:55:18

                    average_Voltage_terminals: 11.70 V
                    Outside air temperature sensor-Resistance: 0.00 kOhm
                    Outside air temperature sensor-Outside air temperature on CAN: 18.50 °C
                    interior_temperature: 28.50 °C
                    Vehicle speed: 0.00 km/h
                    Terminal control-Terminal 75 status: On
                    Terminal control-Terminal 15 status signal: On
                    Terminal control-Terminal 15 via CAN: On
                    Terminal control-Term 75: qualification: OFF

66963 - Databus 
          U1123 00 [008] - Received Error Message
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 163
                    Mileage: 39671 km
                    Date: 2018.08.13
                    Time: 16:55:21

                    average_Voltage_terminals: 13.30 V
                    Outside air temperature sensor-Resistance: 0.00 kOhm
                    Outside air temperature sensor-Outside air temperature on CAN: 18.50 °C
                    interior_temperature: 28.50 °C
                    Vehicle speed: 1.75 km/h
                    Terminal control-Terminal 75 status: On
                    Terminal control-Terminal 15 status signal: On
                    Terminal control-Terminal 15 via CAN: On
                    Terminal control-Term 75: qualification: OFF

66964 - Databus 
          U1123 00 [008] - Received Error Message
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 163
                    Mileage: 39671 km
                    Date: 2018.08.13
                    Time: 16:55:21

                    average_Voltage_terminals: 13.30 V
                    Outside air temperature sensor-Resistance: 0.00 kOhm
                    Outside air temperature sensor-Outside air temperature on CAN: 18.50 °C
                    interior_temperature: 28.50 °C
                    Vehicle speed: 1.75 km/h
                    Terminal control-Terminal 75 status: On
                    Terminal control-Terminal 15 status signal: On
                    Terminal control-Terminal 15 via CAN: On
                    Terminal control-Term 75: qualification: OFF
 
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It would be nice if there were better descriptions than just "databus" error.
Absolutely, it would. If we had a means of giving you better data, we would do so.

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Absolutely, it would. If we had a means of giving you better data, we would do so.

-Uwe-

I can confirm that the following two databus errors relate to the light controller D6 (Light control left 2) and D7 (Light control Right 2) not being reachable over the databus from J519. This was because I had coded the headlight variant incorrectly when trying to test the matrix headlights! When I restored my coding back to that for normal LED lights these two errors remained and I couldn't clear them. I was only able to clear them by disconnecting the battery (in the past I now remember I have had similar errors and they eventually go away - generally over night).

I was able to get this information from the "measured values - Status of event memory" in ODIS-S before deleting the DTCs. So these errors relate to J519 not being able to communicate with devices on the headlight bus.

66881 - Databus
U1123 00 [009] - Received Error Message
Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 6
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 123
Mileage: 39671 km
Date: 2018.08.13
Time: 16:55:18

average_Voltage_terminals: 11.70 V
Outside air temperature sensor-Resistance: 0.00 kOhm
Outside air temperature sensor-Outside air temperature on CAN: 18.50 °C
interior_temperature: 28.50 °C
Vehicle speed: 0.00 km/h
Terminal control-Terminal 75 status: On
Terminal control-Terminal 15 status signal: On
Terminal control-Terminal 15 via CAN: On
Terminal control-Term 75: qualification: OFF

66882 - Databus
U1123 00 [009] - Received Error Message
Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 6
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 123
Mileage: 39671 km
Date: 2018.08.13
Time: 16:55:18

average_Voltage_terminals: 11.70 V
Outside air temperature sensor-Resistance: 0.00 kOhm
Outside air temperature sensor-Outside air temperature on CAN: 18.50 °C
interior_temperature: 28.50 °C
Vehicle speed: 0.00 km/h
Terminal control-Terminal 75 status: On
Terminal control-Terminal 15 status signal: On
Terminal control-Terminal 15 via CAN: On
Terminal control-Term 75: qualification: OFF
 
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Following up, the databus errors relate to the light controllers complaining that they are the wrong headlamp type and hence J519 and A5 getting error on the bus. As J519 communicates with the headlamp controllers it might be related to the dataset in J519. Just like with external amplifiers and 5F needing the dataset updated to allow this communication - or you get an "implausible" error...
Code:
Wednesday,01,August,2018,10:32:48:19583
VCDS Version: Beta 18.5.4 (x64) Running on Windows 7 x64
www.Ross-Tech.com

                Address D6: Light Ctrl Left 2       Labels: 7PP-941-592.clb
Control Module Part Number: 7PP 941 592 CA    HW: 7PP 941 592 C
  Component and/or Version: LED1L         H09 2002
           Software Coding: 
            Work Shop Code: WSC 00000 000 00000
              ASAM Dataset: EV_LEDModLeftMELCOAU736 001004 (AU73)
                       ROD: EV_LEDModLeftMELCOAU736_VW37.rod
                      VCID: 197A026218D5CD838A-804C
1 Fault Found:

0019 - Headlamp Type 
          C119F 00 [009] - Implausible
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 123
                    Mileage: 39674 km
                    Date: 2018.08.15
                    Time: 10:25:18


Wednesday,01,August,2018,10:33:24:19583
VCDS Version: Beta 18.5.4 (x64) Running on Windows 7 x64
www.Ross-Tech.com

                Address D7: Light Ctrl Right 2       Labels: 7PP-941-592.clb
Control Module Part Number: 7PP 941 592 CA    HW: 7PP 941 592 C
  Component and/or Version: LED1R         H09 2002
           Software Coding: 
            Work Shop Code: WSC 00000 000 00000
              ASAM Dataset: EV_LEDModRightMELCOAU736 001004 (AU73)
                       ROD: EV_LEDModLeftMELCOAU736_VW37.rod
                      VCID: 197A026218D5CD838A-804C
1 Fault Found:

0019 - Headlamp Type 
          C119F 00 [009] - Implausible
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 123
                    Mileage: 39674 km
                    Date: 2018.08.15
                    Time: 10:25:19

This error is also implied via the errors in the A5 camera:

Code:
Sunday,01,July,2018,09:41:43:19583
VCDS Version: Release 18.2.1 (x64) Running on Windows 7 x64
www.Ross-Tech.com

                Address A5: Frt Sens. Drv. Assist       Labels: None
Control Module Part Number: 4M0 907 217 D    HW: 4M0 907 217 A
  Component and/or Version: BVS           H12 0042
           Software Coding: 0407030600000401024023A7C50000B4B0F0C020C080
            Work Shop Code: WSC 00046 123 12345
              ASAM Dataset: EV_BVSMLBevKOSTAAU736 002026 (AU73)
                       ROD: EV_BVSMLBevKOSTAAU736.rod
                      VCID: 2F2EDCBA6E51333C8D-807A
4 Faults Found:

1123893 - Databus 
          U1123 00 [009] - Received Error Message
          [LED_Feh_LM_R_03_LED_R_falsch_codiert]
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 123
                    Mileage: 39674 km
                    Date: 2018.08.15
                    Time: 09:41:08

                    Control Module temperature: 25 °C
                    Voltage terminal 15: 11.50 V

1123894 - Databus 
          U1123 00 [009] - Received Error Message
          [LED_Feh_LM_L_03_LED_L_falsch_codiert]
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 123
                    Mileage: 39674 km
                    Date: 2018.08.15
                    Time: 09:41:08

                    Control Module temperature: 25 °C
                    Voltage terminal 15: 11.50 V

1123669 - Left Matrix High Beam 
          C1175 54 [009] - Missing Calibration / Basic Setting
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 123
                    Mileage: 39674 km
                    Date: 2018.08.15
                    Time: 09:41:06

                    Control Module temperature: 26 °C
                    Voltage terminal 15: 11.50 V

1123670 - Right Matrix High Beam 
          C1176 54 [009] - Missing Calibration / Basic Setting
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 123
                    Mileage: 39674 km
                    Date: 2018.08.15
                    Time: 09:41:06

                    Control Module temperature: 26 °C
                    Voltage terminal 15: 11.50 V

And finally J519

Code:
                Address 09: Cent. Elect.       Labels: None
Control Module Part Number: 8W0 907 063 AG    HW: 8W0 907 063 G
  Component and/or Version: BCM1 MLBevo   H12 0228
           Software Coding: 07501B43E16900CD010D57195B3F0CF913033100800000000000000060001A810A4501AB22B70A
            Work Shop Code: WSC 31414 790 00001
              ASAM Dataset: EV_BCM1BOSCHAU736 015005 (AU73)
                       ROD: EV_BCM1BOSCHAU736_015.rod
                      VCID: 004C4F069B4F7C4427-8054
2 Faults Found:

66881 - Databus 
          U1123 00 [009] - Received Error Message
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 123
                    Mileage: 39672 km
                    Date: 2018.08.13
                    Time: 18:24:52

                    average_Voltage_terminals: 11.90 V
                    Outside air temperature sensor-Resistance: 0.00 kOhm
                    Outside air temperature sensor-Outside air temperature on CAN: 17.50 °C
                    interior_temperature: 22.50 °C
                    Vehicle speed: 0.00 km/h
                    Terminal control-Terminal 75 status: On
                    Terminal control-Terminal 15 status signal: On
                    Terminal control-Terminal 15 via CAN: On
                    Terminal control-Term 75: qualification: OFF

66882 - Databus 
          U1123 00 [009] - Received Error Message
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 123
                    Mileage: 39672 km
                    Date: 2018.08.13
                    Time: 18:24:52

                    average_Voltage_terminals: 11.90 V
                    Outside air temperature sensor-Resistance: 0.00 kOhm
                    Outside air temperature sensor-Outside air temperature on CAN: 17.50 °C
                    interior_temperature: 22.50 °C
                    Vehicle speed: 0.00 km/h
                    Terminal control-Terminal 75 status: On
                    Terminal control-Terminal 15 status signal: On
                    Terminal control-Terminal 15 via CAN: On
                    Terminal control-Term 75: qualification: OFF
 
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I know it`s too late for answer but spyderboyant need to upload flash data set to D6 and D7 specific to model of car and then matrix calibration.
 
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