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    okay guys, a fresh start and a new day, after following the guide on the link posted by Uwe and at the third attempt logging out of VCDS-Lite and starting again the regen worked.

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    I followed all the prequesisites;

    Ignition ON
    Engine ON (Idle)
    Oil Temperature above 70 C (see MVB 007.2)
    Particle Filter Load below 68g (see MVB 104.3)
    If the Particle Filter Load is above 68g the Particle Filter needs to be replaced since the car may burn down when regenerating.
    Engine Hood CLOSED
    Parking Brake ENGAGED
    Transmission in (P)ARK
    Temperatures at the Exhaust System may rise up to 300 C!!!
    No Fault Codes Stored
    Power Consumers ON (Light, Seat Heating, Front/Rear Window Heater, Climate Con
    trol)

    Selected 01 (Engine)
    Login 11 then entered the code 10016
    A pop-up appeared saying code accepted by controller.
    The engine revs didn't increase and nothing seemed to happen.
    I opened Measuring Blocks and entered;
    100 (Go!)
    101 (Go!)
    102 (Go!)

    Readings were as follows;

    100
    1. 756 /min
    2. 135.7*C
    3. 0.0
    4. 1 (1 = Abort recognised)

    101
    1. 11111111
    2. 11110111
    3. 00000000
    4. 000

    102.
    1. 145.0*C
    2. 135.7*C
    3. 7.8 mbar
    4. 7.8 mbar

    I switched off the ignition, closed VCDS-Lite an started the process again....

    This time after following all the precursors and entering the code 10016 in Login 11 the engine revs immediately increased to approx 1,500 rpm.

    I opened Measuring Blocks.

    100
    1. 1512 /min
    2. 578.2*C
    3. 112
    4. 0

    101
    1. 11111111
    2. 11111111
    3. 00000000
    4. 010 (Regeneration)

    102.
    1. 626.4*C
    2. 578.2*C
    3. 27.4 mbar
    4. 7.8 mbar

    After about 20 mins Measuring Blocks showed the following;

    100
    1. 1533 /min
    2. 566.4*C
    3. 204.0
    4. 0

    101
    1. 11111111
    2. 11110111
    3. 00000000
    4. 000

    102.
    1. 620.6*C
    2. 572.3*C
    3. 23.5 mbar
    4. 7.8 mbar

    Regeneration took about 25 minutes then the engine revs dropped. Measuring Block readings then showed the following;

    100
    1. 1092 /min
    2. 354.0*C
    3. 0.0
    4. 0

    101
    1. 11111111
    2. 11110111
    3. 00000000
    4. 100

    102.
    1. 295.8*C
    2. 354.0*C
    3. 15.7 mbar
    4. 7.8 mbar

    After approx 5 mins the revs dropped to idle, the Measuring Blocks then showed the following;

    100
    1. 735 /min
    2. 300.9*C
    3. 0.0
    4. 0

    101
    1. 11111111
    2. 11111111
    3. 00000000
    4. 000

    102.
    1. 255.2*C
    2. 300.9*C
    3. 7.8 mbar
    4. 7.8 mbar

    I left the engine running for while, switched off the lights, heated seats, demister and window heater then cleared the Engine fault codes.

    I took the car for a test drive and so far so good. I'll update if there are any changes.

    A huge thanks to Uwe and Andy at Ross-Tech for your help and your patience.

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    Hi,

    my 2011 Phaeton has engine type CEXA 3.0 V6 TDI.

    There's a "Diesel Particulate Filter - Owners Manual" warning on the dash. I have looked at the Ross Tech Wiki and tried to do a regen but the code to access the controller (10016) is not being accepted.
    Does anyone know of any other codes ?

    Also there are no Fault Codes stored, but I'm wondering if it might be a faulty DPF sensor as it says the last regen was done at 0 km and MVB 102.3 and 102.4 look slightly suspicious to me.


    MVB 102 - Engine running.
    1. 130*C
    2. 94*C
    3. 6 mbar
    4. 0 mbar

    MVB 104 - Engine running
    1. 0.1
    2. 44.0
    3. 40.0
    4. 0 km

    MVB 102 - Engine NOT running
    3. 0.0 mbar

    Thanks,
    Robbie

    Code:
    Tuesday,05,March,2019,11:30:20:40164
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows XP x86
    VCDS Version: 18.9.1.0
    Data version: 20190114 DS296.0
    www.Ross-Tech.com
    
    
    VIN: WVWZZZ3DZB8005546   License Plate: SA61
    Mileage: 141860km-88147mi   Repair Order: 
    
    
    
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    
    Chassis Type: 3D-VW61 (6N0)
    Scan: 01 02 03 05 06 07 08 09 15 16 17 18 19 28 34 36 37 38 42 46
              47 52 55 56 62 68 71 72 76 77
    
    VIN: WVWZZZ3DZB8005546   Mileage: 141860km-88147miles
    
    01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
    02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
    04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
    05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: OK 0000
    06-Seat Mem. Pass -- Status: OK 0000
    07-Control Head -- Status: OK 0000
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    18-Aux. Heat -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    28-HVAC, Rear -- Status: Not registered 0001
    34-Level Control -- Status: OK 0000
    36-Seat Mem. Drvr -- Status: OK 0000
    37-Navigation -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    38-Roof Electronics -- Status: OK 0000
    42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
    46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
    47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
    52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
    55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000
    56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
    68-Wiper Electr. -- Status: OK 0000
    71-Battery Charger -- Status: OK 0000
    72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
    76-Park Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000
     
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine (CEX)       Labels: None
       Part No SW: 3D0 907 401 H    HW: 3D0 907 401 D
       Component: 3.0TDI EDC17G000AG  0010  
       Revision: --H05---    Serial number: VWX3Z0J1929198
       Coding: 0406002C191F0160
       Shop #: WSC 95147 753 45725
       VCID: 2447BA87E4471B6A99-5106
    
    No fault code found.
    Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0 
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 09L-927-760.lbl
       Part No SW: 09L 927 760 R    HW: GS1 911 4
       Component: AG6 09L 3,0 TDI RdW 3606  
       Revision: --H05---    Serial number:        4602718
       Coding: 0000001
       Shop #: WSC 01065 000 00000
       VCID: 4683000F323B097AA7-5140
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 3D0-614-517.lbl
       Part No: 3D0 614 517 AK
       Component: ESP 5.7 allrad  H35 0047  
       Coding: 0008356
       Shop #: WSC 01065 000 00000
       VCID: 6BD591BB4919141218-5122
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 05: Acc/Start Auth.        Labels: 3D0-909-13x-05.lbl
       Part No SW: 3D0 909 139 D    HW: 3D0 909 139 D
       Component:    Kessy            6850  
       Revision: 00H23072    Serial number: VWX3Z0J1929198
       Coding: 0004328
       Shop #: WSC 01065 000 00000
       VCID: 2A5B54BF8163CD1AA3-807E
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX 
       Component: ELV                 XXXX
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 06: Seat Mem. Pass        Labels: 3D0-959-759.lbl
       Part No: 3D0 959 759 CA
       Component: Sitzmemory D1 BF    1722  
       Coding: 0000003
       Shop #: WSC 01065 000 00000
       VCID: 77FDBDCB0251A0F2EC-8022
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 07: Control Head        Labels: 3D0-907-048.clb
       Part No SW: 3D0 907 048     HW: 3D0 907 048 
       Component: J127 KBT vorn       0035  
       Revision: ABH64001    Serial number: VWZ6Z7M0168023
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 63C5F99BA6C95C52A0-8036
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 3D0-907-040.lbl
       Part No: 3D0 907 040 M
       Component: Climatronic D1      2039  
       Coding: 0000001
       Shop #: WSC 01065 000 00000
       VCID: 285FAEB79F6FFF0AB5-807C
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels:. 3D0-937-049-V2.clb
       Part No SW: 3D0 937 049 P    HW: 3D0 937 049 P
       Component: J519                7600  
       Revision: -4006---    Serial number: --------------
       Coding: 618C0000AB2115825502770000000000
       Shop #: WSC 01065 000 00000
       VCID: 377D7DCB42D160F22C-8062
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 3D0-909-601.lbl
       Part No: 3D0 909 601 F
       Component: 0S Airbag 8.4E+ H13 1155  
       Coding: 0012371
       Shop #: WSC 01065 000 00000
       VCID: 2643A08F957BE97A87-8072
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 7L6-953-549.lbl
       Part No: 7L6 953 549 K
       Component: J527                3601  
       Coding: 0000012
       Shop #: WSC 01065 000 00000
       VCID: 479D0D0B323110725C-8012
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 3D0-920-xxx-17.lbl
       Part No SW: 3D0 920 983 G    HW: 3D0 920 983 G
       Component: J285 KOMBI-INST.    1421  
       Revision: KPH06V04    
       Coding: 0039411
       Shop #: WSC 00835 210 72160
       VCID: 2D515FA3B48DDA2246-8078
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 18: Aux. Heat        Labels: None
       Part No: 3D0 815 005 AP
       Component: J737__Standheizung  4405  
       Revision: 00084000    Serial number: 09020869A00000
       Shop #: WSC 01065 000 00000
       VCID: 6BD591BB4A19141218-803E
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels:. 6N0-909-901-7L.clb
       Part No SW: 6N0 909 901     HW: 3D0 920 983 G
       Component: J533  GW-K-CAN TP20 1421  
       Coding: 7FF2F7AE3B011003
       Shop #: WSC 00835 210 72160
       VCID: 70EF86D7633FF7CA2D-8024
    
    1 Fault Found:
    01044 - Control Module Incorrectly Coded 
                000 -  - 
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01100000
                        Fault Priority: 1
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 97
                        Mileage: 141830 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2019.03.04
                        Time: 10:50:52
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 28: HVAC, Rear        Labels: 3D0-919-158.lbl
       Part No: 3D0 919 158 B
       Component: Klima-Bedienteil D1 0117  
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 2A5B54BF8163CD1AA3-807E
    
    1 Fault Found:
    01299 - Diagnostic Interface for Data Bus (J533) 
                005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 34: Level Control        Labels: 3D0-907-553-V2.clb
       Part No: 3D0 907 553 C
       Component: LUFTFDR.-CDC- 3C3V0 1122  
       Coding: 0005521
       Shop #: WSC 01065 000 00000
       VCID: 275DAD8B9271F072BC-8072
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 36: Seat Mem. Drvr        Labels: 3D0-959-760.lbl
       Part No: 3D0 959 760 CA
       Component: Sitzmemory D1 F     1722  
       Coding: 0000004
       Shop #: WSC 01065 000 00000
       VCID: 6FED85AB7A01E83234-803A
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 37: Navigation (J0506)       Labels:. 3D0-035-680.clb
       Part No SW: 3D0 035 680 B    HW: 3D0 035 680 B
       Component: RNS-MID       H64 1230  
       Revision: AB001001    Serial number: VWZ6Z7M0168023
       Coding: 020100420000002040
       Shop #: WSC 77012 210 82037
       VCID: 1F4DB56B0E2138B2C4-804A
    
    2 Faults Found:
    00856 - Radio Antenna 
                011 - Open Circuit
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01101011
                        Fault Priority: 5
                        Fault Frequency: 19
                        Reset counter: 98
                        Mileage: 141824 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2019.03.04
                        Time: 10:51:01
    
    03829 - External Bluetooth Module 
                004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01100100
                        Fault Priority: 6
                        Fault Frequency: 2
                        Reset counter: 98
                        Mileage: 141824 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2019.03.04
                        Time: 10:51:21
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 38: Roof Electronics        Labels: 3D0-907-135.lbl
       Part No: 3D0 907 135 F
       Component: Dachmodul           0903  
       Coding: 0012351
       Shop #: WSC 01065 000 00000
       VCID: 2643A08F957BE97A87-8072
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels: 3D0-959-933.lbl
       Part No: 3D0 959 933 M
       Component: 6Z HSG              8133  
       Coding: 0000040
       Shop #: WSC 77012 210 91867
       VCID: 3A7B64FF76C37D9AD3-4AE8
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 3D2 959 701 H
       Component: Tuersteuergeraet FS 0202
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No: 3D2 959 702 H
       Component: Tuersteuergeraet BF 0202
    
       Subsystem 3 - Part No: 3D0 959 703 G
       Component: Tuersteuergeraet HL 0202
    
       Subsystem 4 - Part No: 3D0 959 704 G
       Component: Tuersteuergeraet HR 0202
    
       Subsystem 5 - Part No: 3D0 909 610 F
       Component: 3P HDSG             2630
    
       Subsystem 6 - Part No: 7L0 907 719 A
       Component:    Neigungssensor   0020
    
    1 Fault Found:
    00896 - Trunk Lock Unit (F256) 
                008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 47: Sound System        Labels: 7Lx-035-4xx-47.lbl
       Part No SW: 3D0 035 465 C    HW: 3D0 035 465 C
       Component: 08K Audioverst.     0120  
       Revision: 00005000    Serial number: 00000000237609
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 2149B393F8550E42F2-8074
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 55: Headlight Range (J745)       Labels:. 5M0-907-357-V3.clb
       Part No SW: 5M0 907 357 E    HW: 7L6 907 357 C
       Component: AFS-ECU       H04 0080  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: --------------
       Coding: 012E00000B000200
       Shop #: WSC 01065 000 00038
       ASAM Dataset: EV_HeadlRegulVWAFSPt 002006
       ROD: EV_HeadlRegulVWAFSPt_VW32.rod
       VCID: 366370CF89DB99FA37-8062
    
       Left_headlamp_power_output_stage: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 3D0 941 329 A  Labels: 3D0-941-329.CLB
    
       Right_headlamp_power_output_stage: 
       Subsystem 2 - Part No: 3D0 941 329 A  Labels: 3D0-941-329.CLB
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 56: Radio (J0506)       Labels:. 3D0-035-680.clb
       Part No SW: 3D0 035 680 B    HW: 3D0 035 680 B
       Component: RNS-MID       H64 1230  
       Revision: AB001001    Serial number: VWZ6Z7M0168023
       Coding: 020100420000002040
       Shop #: WSC 77012 210 82037
       VCID: 1F4DB56B0E2138B2C4-804A
    
    2 Faults Found:
    00856 - Radio Antenna 
                011 - Open Circuit
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01101011
                        Fault Priority: 5
                        Fault Frequency: 19
                        Reset counter: 98
                        Mileage: 141824 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2019.03.04
                        Time: 10:51:01
    
    03829 - External Bluetooth Module 
                004 - No Signal/Communication
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01100100
                        Fault Priority: 6
                        Fault Frequency: 3
                        Reset counter: 98
                        Mileage: 141824 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2019.03.04
                        Time: 10:51:21
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 68: Wiper Electr.        Labels: 3Dx-955-1xx-V2.clb
       Part No: 3D2 955 120 B
       Component: Front Wiper         3501  
       Coding: 0015733
       Shop #: WSC 01065 000 376832
       VCID: 2149B393FC550E42F2-8074
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 71: Battery Charger        Labels: 3D0-915-181.lbl
       Part No: 3D0 915 181 E
       Component: Batteriemanagement  2800  
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 2541A783E87DE2628E-8070
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 76: Park Assist        Labels: None
       Part No: 3D0 919 283 E
       Component: 10 Einparkhilfe     1107  
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 2C5752A78B97D32A51-8078
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 77: Telephone (J412)       Labels:| 3C8-035-730-A.clb
       Part No SW: 3D0 035 730 A    HW: 3D0 035 730 A
       Component: Telefon       016 0422  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 35909603292512
       Coding: 020100010100011000000000
       Shop #: WSC 01065 123 00022
       ASAM Dataset: EV_UHVPremiPhaet A01002
       ROD: EV_UHVPremiPhaet.rod
       VCID: 1A3B847F1D035D9A33-804E
    
    No fault code found.
    
    End-------------------------
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    Warning on dash with no fault codes from the ECU makes little sense. Any chance the ECU has been "tuned"?

    I would fix the Gateway Installation List:

    [Select]
    [19-CAN Gateway]
    [Installation List]
    Scroll down to 28-HVAC Rear and put a tick mark next to it.
    [Save Coding]

    But I rather doubt this will have any effect on the problem at hand.

    -Uwe-
    The engineering problems are likely insurmountable. It would be like proposing to land a rocket booster section on a barge floating in the middle of the ocean.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uwe View Post
    Warning on dash with no fault codes from the ECU makes little sense. Any chance the ECU has been "tuned"?

    I would fix the Gateway Installation List:

    [Select]
    [19-CAN Gateway]
    [Installation List]
    Scroll down to 28-HVAC Rear and put a tick mark next to it.
    [Save Coding]

    But I rather doubt this will have any effect on the problem at hand.

    -Uwe-
    Thanks Uwe.
    The ECU is standard.
    The other faults are just to do with a rear HVAC I installed (It works but I cannot get rid of the error even if I tick the box as it is from an older model Phaeton) and an aerial problem. They have been there for ages so I know they aren't anything to do with the DPF problem.

    Although there appears to be no Fault codes with Engine when I run Auto-Scan, strangely there is "Mode 03: emissions related fault codes" if I use "OBD-II Functions" in VCDS.

    Any news on a security code to do a DPF regen on the CEXA engine?
    Also has there been any progress on creating an "Adaptation" for the G450 sensor, incase I have to replace it ?

    Thank you for your help.
    Last edited by Robbie-rocket-pants; 03-05-2019 at 11:24 AM.

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    So I changed the G450 DPF pressure sensor and I went for a drive and the car has done a regen and my problem is fixed.
    But I never could get the car to do a forced regen using VCDS. I tried codes 10016, 27971 and 12233.

    Do you have any other code suggestions incase I need to try a regen in the future please ?

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