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    Question '05 Golf MK5, G62 sensor failure

    Hi,

    I ran AutoScan which discovered failure with the G62 sensor.
    I refitted a new original sensor original from VAG, cleared all DTC's, but there is stil a problem with the sensor.
    I have tried to disconnect the positive cable on the battery to check if that could help.. but no...

    Is there anyone that could help me?

    Thanks in advance!

    Here is the code:

    Code:
    Monday,20,October,2014,21:45:11:15915
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator
    VCDS Version: 12.12.3.0 (x64)
    Data version: 20140905
    
    
    VIN: WVWZZZ1KZ5W050772   License Plate: KH30927
    Mileage: 137500km-85438mi   Repair Order: 
    
    
    
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    
    Chassis Type: 1K (1K0)
    Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 42 44 46 52 56 62 69 72
    
    VIN: WVWZZZ1KZ5W050772   Mileage: 137500km/85438miles
    
    00-Steering Angle Sensor -- Status: OK 0000
    01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
    25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
    42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
    44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
    52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
    56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
    62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
    69-Trailer -- Status: OK 0000
    72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
     
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine        Labels: 036-906-032-AXP.lbl
       Part No SW: 036 997 032 D    HW: xxxxxxxxxxx 
       Component: BOSCH ME7.5.10      9736  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: VWZ7Z0D0119662
       Coding: 0000071
       Shop #: WSC 00220 218 16467
       VCID: 1B35FCB6DA9BEBC66EF-804E
    
    1 Fault Found:
    16502 - Engine Coolant Temp. Sensor (G62) 
                P0118 - 002 - Signal too High - MIL ON
    Readiness: 0000 0000
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK70.lbl
       Part No: 1K0 907 379 N
       Component: ASR FRONT MK70      0103  
       Coding: 0017025
       Shop #: WSC 01392 785 00200
       VCID: 3D71122E644F85F6B0B-8068
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 1K0-820-047.lbl
       Part No: 1K0 820 047 CS
       Component: Climatic PQ35   081 0404  
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 77FDC00606F36FA6AA7-8022
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels: 3C0-937-049-23-M.lbl
       Part No SW: 1K0 937 049 S    HW: 1K0 937 049 S*
       Component: Bordnetz-SG 1.0 H30 0704  
       Revision: 00030000    Serial number: 00000000893085
       Coding: 088F8F0600041800001400001400000000
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 3F8D68266E4397E6A27-806A
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K1 955 119 B  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
       Component: Wischer VW350  012  0401  
       Coding: 00065493
       Shop #: WSC 00000  
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 1K0-909-605.lbl
       Part No SW: 1K0 909 605 H    HW: 1K0 909 605 H
       Component: 01 AIRBAG VW8   023 0700  
       Revision: 06023000    Serial number: 00385D0H2AM.  
       Coding: 0012337
       Shop #: WSC 01371 785 00200
       VCID: 31693E1EA8177196243-8064
    
       Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 6332MSME35254803 
    
       Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6342MSME224D4903 
    
       Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6351HSME4B483803 
    
       Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6361HSME1C413D03 
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
       Part No SW: 1K0 953 549     HW: 1K0 953 549 
       Component: Lenksäulenmodul 500 0030  
       Coding: 0000002
       Shop #: WSC 01392 785 00200
       VCID: EFED7866FEA3A766F27-80BA
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-17.lbl
       Part No: 1K0 920 851 
       Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT VDD 0814  
       Coding: 0007103
       Shop #: WSC 00220 218 96319
       VCID: E5C11A4E2C5F6D3688B-80B0
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels: 1K0-907-530-V1.clb
       Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 E    HW: 1K0 907 951 
       Component: Gateway         H09 0110  
       Revision: 09          Serial number: 27001047060A20
       Coding: 3D3F4340070002
       Shop #: WSC 00220 218 16467
       VCID: 2959D67E80C70956EC3-807C
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 25: Immobilizer        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
       Part No: 1K0 920 851 
       Component: IMMO            VDD 0814  
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: E5C11A4E2C5F6D3688B-80B0
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels: 1K0-959-701-MIN1.lbl
       Part No: 1K0 959 701 E
       Component: Tuersteuergeraet 09 0147  
       Coding: 0000052
       Shop #: WSC 01392 785 00200
       VCID: 306F3B1AA31D789E2BD-8065
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1Kx-909-14x-44.clb
       Part No: 1K1 909 144 G
       Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.1       1401  
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 2F6D3866BE236766327-807A
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels: 1K0-959-433-MIN.clb
       Part No: 1K0 959 433 C
       Component:    KSG              0201  
       Coding: 00E802087F2D8404084F0100
       Shop #: WSC 00040 218 58589
       VCID: 306F3B1AA31D789E2BD-8065
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels: 1K0-959-702-MIN1.lbl
       Part No: 1K0 959 702 E
       Component: Tuersteuergeraet 09 0153  
       Coding: 0000052
       Shop #: WSC 01392 785 00200
       VCID: 31693E1EA8177196243-8064
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 56: Radio        Labels: 1K0-035-1xx-56.lbl
       Part No: 1K0 035 186 L
       Component: Radio BVX       140 0022  
       Coding: 0020200
       Shop #: WSC 00220 218 89102
       VCID: 2F6D3866BE236766327-807A
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 62: Door, Rear Left        Labels: 1K0-959-703-GEN1.lbl
       Part No: 1K0 959 703 C
       Component: Tuersteuergeraet 06 0202  
       Coding: 0000016
       Shop #: WSC 01392 785 00200
       VCID: 306F3B1AA31D789E2BD-8065
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 69: Trailer        Labels: 8P0-907-383.lbl
       Part No SW: 8P0 907 383     HW: 8P0 907 383 
       Component: ANHAENGERELEKTR H01 0010  
       Coding: 0000001
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: F6E34D0281F996AE311-80A3
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 72: Door, Rear Right        Labels: 1K0-959-704-GEN1.lbl
       Part No: 1K0 959 704 C
       Component: Tuersteuergeraet 06 0213  
       Coding: 0000016
       Shop #: WSC 01392 785 00200
       VCID: 31693E1EA8177196243-8064
    
    No fault code found.
    
    End   ---------------------------------------------------------------------
    Last edited by Uwe; 10-21-2014 at 10:30 AM. Reason: Wrapped CODE tags around Auto-Scan

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    Look at Measuring Block 001, field 2 to see what the the ECU thinks the engine coolant temperature really is.

    If you have already replaced the sensor, then perhaps you have a wiring problem.

    -Uwe-

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uwe View Post
    Look at Measuring Block 001, field 2 to see what the the ECU thinks the engine coolant temperature really is.

    If you have already replaced the sensor, then perhaps you have a wiring problem.

    -Uwe-
    Thanks for your reply, I will check this later today.

    What is the easiest way to find out if I have a wiring problem? What value on the cable shall I expect to measure on the pins inside the connector? Is it possible get a value with out connect the sensor?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JKB80 View Post
    Thanks for your reply, I will check this later today.

    What is the easiest way to find out if I have a wiring problem? What value on the cable shall I expect to measure on the pins inside the connector? Is it possible get a value with out connect the sensor?
    Using the factory level wiring diagram is the easiest way to determine which terminal pins and wires are used but you may have success searching for "G62" in the repair manual to see if a Checking and/or Testing section is available. I personally wouldn't worry about any of that if you haven't already replaced G62.

    Most engine controllers support an ECT range of -40°C to +140°C so you should see something close to that when unplugged and the other when shorted but I would NOT short wires while testing unless you have a wiring diagram handy to reference.

    P.S. It doesn't look like you are registered with us. Please fill out this form so we can switch your forum status to Verified:

    http://www.ross-tech.com/vca/hex-com-reg.php
    Last edited by Dana; 10-21-2014 at 12:05 PM. Reason: VCDS Dongle Registration link added

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    Hi,

    I did finaly managed to remove the error on the sensor.
    I removed the fault in the "Fault Codes" window instead of "Clear All DTC's" in the autoscan window.

    It's quite obvious that there is a difference..?

    I have not read all documentation for this tool yet, so it's probably described in a manual somewhere. It's about time to read some manuals..

    Of course I will register asap, I love this tool! Nice to have control, and save a lot of money as well! VAG workshops in Norway are not cheap..

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    Yay, another European user here
    Workshop prices aren't cheap nowhere, but based on average wage in Norway, i assume it's quite high.
    I am a VW Freak - Le WV Freaks OR Come visit me at my work with ODIS concerns - FORSS ODIS GeKo/FaZit access for VW/AUDI/Škoda
    The world is my oyster...

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    Quote Originally Posted by JKB80 View Post
    I removed the fault in the "Fault Codes" window instead of "Clear All DTC's" in the autoscan window.

    It's quite obvious that there is a difference..?
    In a CAN car like this [Clear All DTCs] from the [Auto-Scan] function sends a command to the 19-CAN Gateway to clear faults without connecting to each and every controller.

    You could compare this to the old fashioned method of walking to and then knocking on the door at the neighbors house to borrow a cup of sugar (call this pre-CAN cars). If someone answered, there is a good chance that you are leaving with that sugar (or cleared fault codes).

    The new school method of sending a group text message to ALL of the neighbors in your contact list or posting on Facebook (call this CAN) does not guarantee that the recipients of that group message read it or feel obligated to look for the sugar (clear faults as they were asked).

    Golf based CAN cars rarely clear faults in the Engine Controller when clicking [Clear All DTCs] so it may be necessary to double click it from the Auto-Scan result page, where the module will open without having to backtrack to the Main Screen, and click [Clear Codes - 05].


    Quote Originally Posted by JKB80 View Post
    I have not read all documentation for this tool yet, so it's probably described in a manual somewhere. It's about time to read some manuals..
    The Interactive (clickable buttons) Manual may be helpful: Online Demo / Manual
    Last edited by Dana; 10-22-2014 at 10:04 PM.

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