Audi A3 2.0 TDI N75 Short to plus help

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Hello everyone need help, my car has lost boost... I'm getting this fault code:

Address 01: Engine Labels: 03G-906-016-BKD.clb
Part No SW: 03G 906 016 DT HW: 028 101 189 2
Component: R4 2,0L EDC G000AG 7000
Revision: 12345678 Serial number: AUX7Z0D9FNT0N6
Coding: 0000078
Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
VCID: 78FFAEC40BF2B5841C-802C

1 Fault Found:
16630 - Solenoid Valve for Boost Pressure Control (N75)
P0246 - 000 - Short to Plus
Freeze Frame:
RPM: 0 /min
Torque: 8.0 Nm
Speed: 0.0 km/h
Load: 0.0 %
Voltage: 12.46 V
Bin. Bits: 00101100
Absolute Pres.: 183.6 mbar
Absolute Pres.: 979.2 mbar

I think it's a wiring fault, but I bought a used solenoid block, no luck. I've had a look at the wiring near the battery on solenoid plug, also seems pretty solid, cleaned up the ground wires as well. Where else should I be looking?
 
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Hello yeah thanks, I had a look, can't really see anything suspect. could anyone please kindly share the wiring diagram for boost solenoid valve. I don't have a windows laptop to run Elsawin.
 
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Will need full autoscan to determine correct model and year of car. ;)
 
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Yes of course, thanks.

Code:
Chassis Type: 8P (1K0)
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 37 42 44 46 52 56 76 7D

VIN: WAUZZZ8P45A081554   Mileage: 212090km-131786miles

00-Steering Angle Sensor -- Status: OK 0000
01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: Malfunction 0010
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
25-Immobilizer -- Status: Malfunction 0010
37-Navigation -- Status: Malfunction 1010
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: Malfunction 0010
46-Central Conv. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 1010
76-Park Assist -- Status: Malfunction 0010
7D-Aux. Heat -- Status: OK 0000
 
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Address 01: Engine        Labels: 03G-906-016-BKD.clb
   Part No SW: 03G 906 016 DT    HW: 028 101 189 2
   Component: R4 2,0L EDC G000AG  7000  
   Revision: 12345678    Serial number: AUX7Z0D9FNT0N6
   Coding: 0000078
   Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
   VCID: 78FFAEC40BF2B5841C-802C

1 Fault Found:
16630 - Solenoid Valve  for Boost Pressure Control (N75) 
            P0246 - 000 - Short to Plus
             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 0 /min
                    Torque: 8.0 Nm
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                    Load: 0.0 %
                    Voltage: 12.46 V
                    Bin. Bits: 00101100
                    Absolute Pres.: 183.6 mbar
                    Absolute Pres.: 979.2 mbar

Readiness: 0 0 1 1 1 

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Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 02E-927-770.clb
   Part No SW: 02E 300 041 A    HW: 02E 927 770 AD
   Component: GSG DSG         041 0822  
   Revision: 00004010    Serial number: 00000410230326
   Coding: 0000020
   Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
   VCID: 102FF66403428DC4B4-8044

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK60-F.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 907 379 K
   Component: ESP FRONT MK60      0104  
   Coding: 0023174
   Shop #: WSC 06435 000 00000
   VCID: 3A7B74CC757E67942A-806E

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 8P0-820-043.lbl
   Part No SW: 8P0 820 043 C    HW: 8P0 820 043 C
   Component: KlimavollautomatH11 0120  
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 2C5742948F2AC924A8-8078

3 Faults Found:
00604 - Potentiometer Positioning Motor for Air Flow Flap (G113) 
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100010
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 57
                    Mileage: 52273 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2006.04.10
                    Time: 00:30:54

             Freeze Frame:
                    Voltage: 12.10 V
                    (no units): 218.0
                    Temperature: 16.5∞C

01274 - Air Flow Flap Positioning Motor (V71) 
            003 - Mechanical Failure
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100011
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 48
                    Mileage: 79842 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2018.04.01
                    Time: 21:06:42

             Freeze Frame:
                    Voltage: 9.50 V
                    Temperature: 28.0∞C
                    (no units): 216.0
                    (no units): 216.0
                    Temperature: 20.0∞C

00796 - Fan for Interior Temp Sensor (V42) 
            011 - Open Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101011
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 31
                    Reset counter: 222
                    Mileage: 142976 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2015.05.24
                    Time: 10:47:37

             Freeze Frame:
                    Voltage: 12.10 V
                    Temperature: 20.5∞C


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Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels:. 8P0-907-279-23-H.lbl
   Part No SW: 8P0 907 279 C    HW: 8P0 907 279 C
   Component: Bordnetz-SG     H34 0301  
   Revision: 00H34000    Serial number: 00000001200137
   Coding: E780DF06A214100000000000000000000000FE0F5C
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   VCID: 3D717FD0645050AC0F-8068

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 8P2 955 119 F  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer AU350   H11 0050  
   Coding: 00055568
   Shop #: WSC 12345  

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 4E0 910 557   Labels: 8K0-955-559.CLB
   Component: REGENLICHTSENSORH10 0050  
   Coding: 00150573
   Shop #: WSC 12345  

7 Faults Found:
02092 - Enabling Heated Seat 
            009 - Open or Short to Ground
00988 - Lamp for Brake Light; Right (M10) 
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
00059 - Terminal 30 for Interior Lighting 
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent
01495 - Bulb for High-Beams; Left (M30) 
            010 - Open or Short to Plus
01499 - Bulb for High-Beams; Right (M32) 
            010 - Open or Short to Plus
01518 - Bulb for Back-Up Lights; Left (M16) 
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
00834 - Signal for Activation of Heated Rear Window 
            009 - Open or Short to Ground - Intermittent

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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 8P0-959-655-84.lbl
   Part No SW: 8P0 959 655 D    HW: 8P0 959 655 D
   Component: Airbag 8.4ED    H00 0140  
   Coding: 0011603
   Shop #: WSC 00262 210 13104
   VCID: 4385092802B4265C79-8016

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 8P0-953-549-F.lbl
   Part No SW: 8P0 953 549 F    HW: 8P0 953 549 F
   Component: J0527           H36 0070  
   Coding: 0002142
   Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
   VCID: 4189032018A8344C6B-8014

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX 
   Component: E0221           H06 0030

3 Faults Found:
01044 - Control Module Incorrectly Coded 
            000 -  -  - Intermittent
01304 - Radio 
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
01426 - Controls in Steering Wheel (E221) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent

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Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 8P0-920-xxx-17-MY7.lbl
   Part No SW: 8P0 920 981 A    HW: 8P0 920 981 A
   Component: KOMBIINSTR. VDO H73 0300  
   Revision: D04         Serial number: 2249DD04002438
   Coding: 0002408
   Shop #: WSC 00999 444 64523
   VCID: 366360FC416683F4CE-8062

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels:. 1K0-907-530-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 D    HW: 1K0 907 951 
   Component: Gateway         H08 0100  
   Revision: 08          Serial number: 2500104A240281
   Coding: 3F0F0F48070101
   Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
   VCID: 285FBE849BD2E5044C-807C

3 Faults Found:
01305 - Databus for Infotainment 
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100100
                    Fault Priority: 1
                    Fault Frequency: 81
                    Reset counter: 53
                    Mileage: 211954 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2018.04.19
                    Time: 01:08:39

01304 - Radio 
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 81
                    Reset counter: 53
                    Mileage: 211954 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2018.04.19
                    Time: 01:08:40

01300 - Control Module for Navigation with CD-Rom (J401) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 81
                    Reset counter: 53
                    Mileage: 211954 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2018.04.19
                    Time: 01:08:41


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Address 25: Immobilizer        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 8P0 920 981 A    HW: 8P0 920 981 A
   Component: KOMBIINSTR. VDO H73 0300  
   Revision: D04         Serial number: AUX7Z0D9FNT0N6
   Shop #: WSC 00029 210 72227
   VCID: 366360FC416683F4CE-8062

1 Fault Found:
01176 - Key 
            008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent

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Address 37: Navigation        Labels: 8E0-035-192-RNSE.clb
   Part No SW: 8P0 035 193 G    HW: 8P0 035 193 G
   Component: RNS-E PU EU     H05 0200  
   Revision: 0000011S    Serial number: AUZBZ7KD200891
   Coding: 0229155
   Shop #: WSC 00141 211 79330
   VCID: 34675AF4571A91E4F0-8060

2 Faults Found:
02261 - Data Medium 
            014 - Defective - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101110
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 53
                    Mileage: 212043 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2018.04.20
                    Time: 21:16:04

             Freeze Frame:
                    Mileage: 212040 km
                    Count: 2004
                    Clock: 21:28

03157 - Functionality limited due to Communications Disruption 
            000 -  - 
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 8
                    Mileage: 211954 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2018.04.19
                    Time: 01:07:37

             Freeze Frame:
                    Bin. Bits: 00000100 00000000
                    Bin. Bits: 00000000 00000000
                    Bin. Bits: 00000000 00000000
                    Bin. Bits: 00000000 00000000


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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels: 8P0-959-801-MAX1.lbl
   Part No: 8P0 959 801 F
   Component: Tuersteuerger.  H10 0030  
   Coding: 0000120
   Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
   VCID: 3E7378DC69564BB416-806A

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1Kx-909-144-G2V2.clb
   Part No: 1K2 909 144 H
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.12      1502  
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 316953E0A808A4CC9B-8064

2 Faults Found:
02546 - Steering Limit Stop 
            005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation
             Freeze Frame:
                    Mileage: 1960 km
                    Temperature: 28.0∞C
                    Voltage: 12.40 V
                    Voltage: 12.30 V

00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85) 
            000 -  - 
             Freeze Frame:


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Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels: 8P0-959-433.lbl
   Part No: 8P0 959 433 
   Component:    KSG          H02 0040  
   Coding: 188000006D008F0F489AC63000
   Shop #: WSC 00029 210 72227
   VCID: 79F9ABC030F8AC8C63-802C

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
   Component: LIN BACKUP HORN H02 1301

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 907 719 B
   Component: Neigungssensor  004 0003

   Subsystem 3 - Part No: 8P0 951 177 
   Component: Innenraumueberw.H03 0020

1 Fault Found:
00352 - Terminal 30A 
            011 - Open Circuit - Intermittent

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels: 8P0-959-802-MAX1.lbl
   Part No: 8P0 959 802 F
   Component: Tuersteuerger.  H10 0030  
   Coding: 0000120
   Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
   VCID: 3F8D05D86E5C42BC1D-806A

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio        Labels: 8E0-035-192-RNSE.clb
   Part No SW: 8P0 035 193 G    HW: 8P0 035 193 G
   Component: RNS-E PU EU     H05 0200  
   Revision: 0000011S    Serial number: AUZBZ7KD200891
   Coding: 0229155
   Shop #: WSC 00141 211 79330
   VCID: 34675AF4571A91E4F0-8060

2 Faults Found:
02261 - Data Medium 
            014 - Defective - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101110
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 53
                    Mileage: 212043 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2018.04.20
                    Time: 21:16:04

             Freeze Frame:
                    Mileage: 212040 km
                    Count: 2004
                    Clock: 21:28

03157 - Functionality limited due to Communications Disruption 
            000 -  - 
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 8
                    Mileage: 211954 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2018.04.19
                    Time: 01:07:37

             Freeze Frame:
                    Bin. Bits: 00000100 00000000
                    Bin. Bits: 00000000 00000000
                    Bin. Bits: 00000000 00000000
                    Bin. Bits: 00000000 00000000


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Address 76: Park Assist        Labels: 8P0-919-283.lbl
   Part No SW: 8P0 919 283     HW: 8P0 919 283 
   Component: Parkhilfe 4-Kan H06 0030  
   Coding: 0001003
   Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
   VCID: 78FFAEC40BF2B5841C-802C

7 Faults Found:
01545 - Sensor for Parking Aid; Rear Left (G203) 
            009 - Open or Short to Ground
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101001
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 198
                    Mileage: 203926 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2017.10.31
                    Time: 01:40:33

01548 - Sensor for Parking Aid; Rear Right (G206) 
            009 - Open or Short to Ground
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101001
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 11
                    Reset counter: 94
                    Mileage: 203371 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2017.10.13
                    Time: 07:10:12

01546 - Sensor for Parking Aid; Rear Mid-Left (G204) 
            009 - Open or Short to Ground
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101001
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 37
                    Mileage: 203371 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2017.10.13
                    Time: 07:10:13

01547 - Sensor for Parking Aid; Rear Mid-Right (G205) 
            009 - Open or Short to Ground
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101001
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 192
                    Mileage: 203371 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2017.10.13
                    Time: 07:10:13

01543 - Parking Aid Warning Chime (H15) 
            009 - Open or Short to Ground
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101001
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 176
                    Mileage: 202500 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2017.10.06
                    Time: 16:40:38

01548 - Sensor for Parking Aid; Rear Right (G206) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100100
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 48
                    Mileage: 211954 km
                    Time Indication: 0

02070 - Rear Parking Aid Sensors 
            011 - Open Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101011
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 13
                    Reset counter: 94
                    Mileage: 203334 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2017.10.13
                    Time: 00:05:13


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Address 7D: Aux. Heat        Labels: 1K0-963-235.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 963 235 E    HW: 1K0 963 235 E
   Component: PTC-Element         0404  
   Revision: 00800000    Serial number:               
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 2D514F90B430C02CBF-8078

No fault code found.

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T60 ECU
T6f N75
T14a black connector. near relay carrier electronics box

T60/29 goes to T6f/5 via T14a/11. blue/black.
T6f/3 is a common positive connection with N18 and N213 to fuse 10 on fuse holder B (10amps), connects to T6r/4 and /1 as well. Black/red.
 
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Wow awesome thank you much appreciated. They don't make it easy to access the ECU do they. Sorry few more question.

You haven't told me what the N18? N213?

What about pins 2 5 6 on the solenoid connector, are they relevant to this problem?

T60/29 goes to T6f/5 via T14a/11. blue/black; The continuity is good between ECU plug and solenoid valve PLUG.

I'm guessing this black/ red wire is cause for the short to plus? Short to plus, does it meaning there is a break in wire or it's touching another wire.
 
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T6f is shared by N75, N18 and N213. N18 is the EGR solenoid and N213 is the low pressure EGR valve.
Positive goes to 1, 3 and 4 while 5 goes to the ECU for operating N75.
2 and 6 are used for resp N18 and N213.

What the ECU is complaining about, is that the wire that goes to T60/29 probably has 12V on it (short to plus) while it shouldn't have that.

I'm guessing there is some kind of short in the wiring, either at T6f itself or somewhere in the wiring (or even at T14a).
Based on the used solenoid you bought and had the same error, I'm (precatonarily) ruling it out for now.
 
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Thank you, you're a Legend. But I'm even more stumped now, Tested it no idea where the power is coming from, hoping it's not a fault ECU. With the car negative battery terminal disconnected, and the multimeter COM port on the negative and Voltage port on the T14a/11. blue/black, I'm getting a strong 12v from it. Makes no difference if the n75 is connected. When I connect the back the car negative terminal it drops to about 3v. Went around disconnecting the fuses and relay in the engine bay, and also the fuses inside the car, multimeter stayed there at 12v. How can that be...?
 
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Oh yeah I also cut the wire just before it travels down into the engine bay, the power is coming from the ecu side not the fuse box side.
 
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is this with the ECU connected or disconnected? This might a 'diagnostic' voltage sent by the ECU or as jack would call it' asshole voltage'. It quickly disappears under load.
If ECU connected, disconnect and measure again. Or you could have a look at T14a for some shorts or water ingress...
 
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Oh ok yes you're right thanks, with the ECU disconnected the power goes away. Can the ECU still send this diagnostic voltage if the T14a/11. blue/black is cut off?

What's happening now is that with the ECU disconnected there is no power what so ever in that wire.

But if I connect the ECU and leave the T14a/11. blue/black that runs to the ecu open/ unconnected and with the multimeter COM port on the negative of battery and Voltage port on the T14a/11. blue/black that is running down the engine into the fuse box I'm guessing. I'm only getting the 12v when the N75 Solenoid valve is connected. Could the ECU be sending diagnostic voltage to the N18 and N213 and it's coming back around somehow? Tested both the old and new to me N75, voltage goes up as soon as I connect them up to the plug.
 
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Fuse box SB10 --bk/rd--- T6f/3 - |N75| - T6f/5 -- bl/bk -- T14a/11 -- bl/bk -- T60/29 (ECU)
If you disconnect T6f from N75, I guess it makes sense that you're measuring 12V on both /3 and /5.
As soon as you disconnect the ECU, /5 should fall dead, this happens.

It looks like the wiring is correct, there is no resistance between N75 and ECU and no stray voltage.
The positive side of N75 seems to be correct as well.

At this point, I'm not sure what to blame to be honest.
 
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Alright thanks guy, I guess I have to take it in. Do you think it's worth me trying another N75?

"If you disconnect T6f from N75, I guess it makes sense that you're measuring 12V on both /3 and /5";

I'm not sure this is what I done. I was measuring power from the wire that goes to T60/29, "T14a/11" I cut this to try and isolate the ECU. With the ECU isolated the other half of this wire was only receiving power when the N75 was connected. I didn't disconnect the T6f.
 
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I think 1K0906279B is the right one, thats the bracket. The solenoid itself would be 6Q0906625E.

Basically, what you've been trying to do is:
- make sure the wire from N75 to ECU has continuity end to end
- there is no interference from other wires (short circuit, corrosion)

If the blue/black wire is the only continuous wire, connecting T60/29 to T6f/5, via T14a/11, your wiring is fine.
 
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Ok wonderful, that hit the nail on the head. I think I'm getting somewhere now. After following that wire and cutting it bit by bit. I finally ended near the headlight, there is another plug just down the headlight, can't reach it to unplug and inspect , Might by a bumper and headlight off job.

But I think my problem lies there. Tested the continuity and resistance between the wire just before the plug and a blue/black wire I found under the fuse box, not sure if it was the same wire, it's hard to follow once it goes under the heard light. The resistant have in the Ks and continuity failed short to beep.

So I ran my own cable from the ECU, straight to that wire in the fuse box, much to my annoyance the fault code changed to Short to Ground!!!

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Lol I was talking rubbish, ignore last post. The headache is finally over. I sent the ECU for testing, came back with no fault found... waste of money. I wasn't convinced, went on eBay bought a remapped ECU with immo removed. Fault gone, limp mode gone and the car absolutely flies. :) Thanks again much appreciated. :thumbs:
 
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