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    Question CFFB camshaft and crankshaft sync

    Hello,

    is there a way to check the synchronization (torsion) of cam- and crankshaft on CFFB engine with VCDS? I mean the same parameter as given by Group 4 on PD VAG engines.

    My VCDS current version is as follows

    VCDS Version: 16.8.3.1
    Data version: 20161010 DS267.0

    Thank you very much in advance!

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    Please post a complete Auto-Scan from the car in question for context, made with a current version of VCDS.

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    The engineering problems are likely insurmountable. It would be like proposing to land a rocket booster section on a barge floating in the middle of the ocean.

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    Uwe, thank you for the reply!

    My questions is not about the auto-scan, but rather the measurement block(s). The parameter I am interested is not present in the scan.

    I am wondering how I can see the synchronization of cam- and crankshaft on new VAG TDI CR engines like CFFB with VCDS. I used to check the torsion parameter in Group 4 on TDI PD engines. Is there a similar thing on VAG TDI CR's?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bambur View Post
    My questions is not about the auto-scan, but rather the measurement block(s). The parameter I am interested is not present in the scan.
    Maybe, just maybe, the parameter block will be present if you use the latest version of VCDS?

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    And maybe, just maybe, it would be helpful to know exactly what ECU he has, which would of course be shown in an Auto-Scan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uwe View Post
    And maybe, just maybe, it would be helpful to know exactly what ECU he has, which would of course be shown in an Auto-Scan.

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    Uwe, sorry I did not figure out there are different ECU's. Here is mine

    Address 01: Engine (J623-CFFB) Labels: 03L-906-018-CFF.clb
    Part No SW: 03L 906 018 LE HW: 03L 907 309 AE
    Component: R4 2,0L EDC H28 4571
    Revision: 41H28--- Serial number: 00000000000000
    Coding: 00190032042401080000
    Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
    ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM20TDI01103L906018LE 003009
    ROD: EV_ECM20TDI01103L906018LE.rod
    VCID: 78FFE7AFC3A4718284-802C

    No fault code found.
    Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0

    How do I check cam- and crankshaft sync?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bambur View Post
    Uwe, sorry I did not figure out there are different ECU's. Here is mine

    Address 01: Engine (J623-CFFB) Labels: 03L-906-018-CFF.clb
    Part No SW: 03L 906 018 LE HW: 03L 907 309 AE
    Component: R4 2,0L EDC H28 4571
    Revision: 41H28--- Serial number: 00000000000000
    Coding: 00190032042401080000
    Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
    ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM20TDI01103L906018LE 003009
    ROD: EV_ECM20TDI01103L906018LE.rod
    VCID: 78FFE7AFC3A4718284-802C

    No fault code found.
    Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0

    How do I check cam- and crankshaft sync?
    Hello,follow instructions if you want help and aren't disclosing enough info surely....Heed UWE's advise and post a complete unedited AUTOSCAN period!

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    Somehow I have a feeling I am not getting any help here. Anyway, here is a complete autoscan

    Code:
     Chassis Type: 5N (7N0)
    Scan: 01 03 08 09 10 15 16 17 19 25 2E 42 44 46 52 53 56 61 62 72
             
    
    VIN: WVGZZZ5NZEW123456   Mileage: 39510km-24550miles
    
    01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
    04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
    10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
    2E-Media Player 3 -- Status: Malfunction 1010
    42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
    44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
    52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    53-Parking Brake -- Status: OK 0000
    56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    61-Battery Regul. -- Status: OK 0000
    62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
    72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
    Would somebody now get to my question please?

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    We kicked this around at the office a bit yesterday and none of us found an answer.

    One question that was asked is: "What makes him his cam and crank are out of sync?

    Another one in my mind is: Why do you think data like that, which was important on a PD engine (with cam actuated injectors) is going to be available on a CR engine (with completely computer-actuated injectors)?

    Also, what you posted there is is still not a complete Auto-Scan.

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    If You have bad timing a fault code will tell.

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