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    No response from controller with HEX-NET

    Hello!
    I recently bought a HEX-NET wifi, and it have worked perfectly on my car (Audi B7 and VW Tiguan) with both wifi (pc) and cable (pc)
    VCDS mobile also worked correctly.
    Earlier this week I tried to access the controllers, but got "No response from controller" on several controllers, including Engine, auto hvac and a couple more (dont recall) Autoscan is the same.

    Instruments and centr electric seems to work fine, I can access those and read fault codes.
    The engine runs well, the climate controller the same.

    Last night i tried my buddys hex-can usb cable, and suddently i could access the whole car. It was with mine laptop, the only differene was the cable.
    The B7 is canbus but communicates via k-line if im no mistaking.. Is there an issue with the hex-net or my computer?


    Test for hex-can usb:



    Test for the hex-net (tested with USB)


    (I can see that CAN is saying testing, but according to ross tech website thats okay)

    Any thoughts?

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    Autoscan from that car, that is not communicating?
    I am a VW Freak - Le WV Freaks OR Come visit me at my work with ODIS concerns - FORSS ODIS GeKo/FaZit access for VW/AUDI/Škoda
    The world is my oyster...

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    Quote Originally Posted by golfi_vend View Post
    Autoscan from that car, that is not communicating?
    ...when I choose a car from the list that is

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    Quote Originally Posted by Znippie View Post
    The B7 is canbus but communicates via k-line if im no mistaking..
    The Audi B7 has some modules on CAN, and some modules on K-Line. Depending on how it is equipped, it may even have some modules on a second K-Line.

    Auto-Scans would be a good start.

    -Uwe-
    The engineering problems are likely insurmountable. It would be like proposing to land a rocket booster section on a barge floating in the middle of the ocean.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Znippie View Post
    ...when I choose a car from the list that is
    I ment we need to see a autoscan done on that car.
    I am a VW Freak - Le WV Freaks OR Come visit me at my work with ODIS concerns - FORSS ODIS GeKo/FaZit access for VW/AUDI/Škoda
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uwe View Post
    Auto-Scans would be a good start.

    -Uwe-
    The autoscan doesnt help much imo

    Code:
    Sunday,06,May,2018,20:05:03:21245
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
    VCDS Version: 18.2.0.3 (x64)  HEX-NET CB: 0.4411.4
    Data version: 20180212 DS287.0
    www.Ross-Tech.com
    
    
    VIN: WAUZZZ8EX7A161569   License Plate: 
    
    
    Chassis Type: 8E (8E - Audi A4/S4/RS4 B6/B7 (2001 > 2008))
    Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 0F 11 15 16 17 18 25 36 37 45 46 55 56 57 65
              67 69 75 76 77
     
    VIN: WAUZZZ8EX7A161569   Mileage: 138200km-85873miles
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 8E0-614-517.lbl
       Part No: 8E0 614 517 
       Component: ABS/ESP front       1729  
       Coding: 04255
       Shop #: WSC 12345  
       VCID: 65825D13FD333B6C8B-51F2
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels: 8E0-907-279-8EC.lbl
       Part No: 8E0 907 279 N
       Component: int. Lastmodul  ECE 0907  
       Coding: 11141
       Shop #: WSC 00851  
       VCID: 3D32D573352353AC33-4B00
    
    5 Faults Found:
    02738 - Bulb for Tail/Brake Light; Left 
                30-00 - Open or Short to Plus
    02739 - Bulb for Tail/Brake Light; Right 
                30-00 - Open or Short to Plus
    01493 - Bulb for Blinkers; Front Left (M5) 
                30-00 - Open or Short to Plus
    01497 - Bulb for Blinkers; Front Right (M7) 
                30-00 - Open or Short to Plus
    01505 - Bulb for Blinkers; Rear Right (M8) 
                30-00 - Open or Short to Plus
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 8E0-959-655-94.lbl
       Part No SW: 8E0 959 655 G    HW: 8E0 959 655 G
       Component:    Airbag 9.41  H12 3730  
       Revision: 91H12373    Serial number: 0036M0G54GD%  
       Coding: 0030612
       Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
       VCID: 3B36DB6B7A375D9C0D-806E
    
       Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 6332DRB404744F30K
    
       Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6342DRB40478C716T
    
       Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6352ARB401DEFBABE
    
       Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6362ARB401DEFA711
    
       Subsystem 5 - Serial number: 63729RB401E4649EZ
    
       Subsystem 6 - Serial number: 63829RB401E46EDE7
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 8E0-920-9xx-8EC.lbl
       Part No SW: 8E0 920 931 G    HW: 8E0 920 931 G
       Component: KOMBI+WFS 4     H14 0030  
       Revision: 0030        Serial number: 00000000000000
       Coding: 0005108
       Shop #: WSC 47856 001 1048576
       VCID: 2C14E8378E59CA2494-5184
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 55: Headlight Range        Labels: 8P0-907-357.lbl
       Part No: 8P0 907 357 F
       Component: Dynamische LWR  H02 0010  
       Revision: 00000001    Serial number:               
       Coding: 0000005
       Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
       VCID: 3D32D573642353AC33-8068
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 76: Park Assist        Labels: 
       VCID: 55E26DD3AC53ABEC1B-4EEA
       Note: Excessive Comm Errors
    
    
    End----(Elapsed Time: 06:47, VBatt start/end: 11.9V/11.6V. VIgn 11.6V)-----
    Last edited by Uwe; 05-06-2018 at 09:15 PM. Reason: QUOTE -> CODE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Znippie View Post
    The autoscan doesnt help much imo
    It does. It shows us exactly what is and isn't communicating.

    You definitely missing 01-Engine.
    What engine type is in this car?
    Does this car have a manual or automatic trans?
    You're likely missing a number of other modules, but I'm puzzled as to why.
    It's not that it's missing everything on CAN. Your ABS talks, and it's on CAN.
    Can you post the scan you made with your friend's HEX+CAN please?

    -Uwe-
    The engineering problems are likely insurmountable. It would be like proposing to land a rocket booster section on a barge floating in the middle of the ocean.

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    Can you try to make an Autoscan again with a charger connected or car running @ idle and post ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uwe View Post
    It does. It shows us exactly what is and isn't communicating.

    You definitely missing 01-Engine.
    What engine type is in this car?
    Does this car have a manual or automatic trans?
    You're likely missing a number of other modules, but I'm puzzled as to why.
    It's not that it's missing everything on CAN. Your ABS talks, and it's on CAN.
    Can you post the scan you made with your friend's HEX+CAN please?

    -Uwe-
    Yeah, well, thats what I wrote in the first post, so yes
    Im running an 2.7 biturbo swap. It was orginally a 2.0 TDI quattro
    It has a 6 speed manual.
    As mentioned, i was (and has always been) able to communicate with all controllers, until last week. The hex-net also worked on this car up until now.
    The hex-net cable works fine on other cars.
    Yes my ABS talks, but its been downgraded from a bosch 8.0 to bosch 5.7 to be able to communicate by k-line.
    The ABS and the ECU share K-line wiring in the ECU harness.

    Here is the scan with hex-can


    Code:
    VIN: WAUZZZ8EX7A161569   License Plate: 
    
    
    Chassis Type: 8E (8E - Audi A4/S4/RS4 B6/B7 (2001 > 2008))
    Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 0F 11 15 16 17 18 25 36 37 45 46 55 56 57 65
              67 69 75 76 77
     
    VIN: WAUZZZ8EX7A161569   Mileage: 138230km-85892miles
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine        Labels: 078-907-551-AZA.lbl
       Part No: 4Z7 907 551 N
       Component: 2.7L V6/5VT         0003  
       Coding: 11712
       Shop #: WSC 02325  
       VCID: 4E989DE28A601E34DA-5102
       WAUZZZ4BX3N002260     AUZ7Z0B2143324
    
    No fault code found.
    Readiness: 0110 1101
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 8E0-614-517.lbl
       Part No: 8E0 614 517 
       Component: ABS/ESP front       1729  
       Coding: 04255
       Shop #: WSC 12345  
       VCID: 65CA424EFFD6FD6C8B-5120
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 8E0-820-043.lbl
       Part No: 8E0 820 043 BM
       Component:   A4 Klimaautomat   3233  
       Coding: 00000
       Shop #: WSC 00000  
       VCID: 6DDA3A6E2726C52CC3-50E6
    
    1 Faults Found:
    00819 - High Pressure Sensor (G65) 
                30-00 - Open or Short to Plus
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels: 8E0-907-279-8EC.lbl
       Part No: 8E0 907 279 N
       Component: int. Lastmodul  ECE 0907  
       Coding: 11141
       Shop #: WSC 00851  
       VCID: 3D7ACA2E37C695AC33-4ACE
    
    5 Faults Found:
    02738 - Bulb for Tail/Brake Light; Left 
                30-00 - Open or Short to Plus
    02739 - Bulb for Tail/Brake Light; Right 
                30-00 - Open or Short to Plus
    01493 - Bulb for Blinkers; Front Left (M5) 
                30-00 - Open or Short to Plus
    01497 - Bulb for Blinkers; Front Right (M7) 
                30-00 - Open or Short to Plus
    01505 - Bulb for Blinkers; Rear Right (M8) 
                30-00 - Open or Short to Plus
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 8E0-959-655-94.lbl
       Part No SW: 8E0 959 655 G    HW: 8E0 959 655 G
       Component:    Airbag 9.41  H12 3730  
       Revision: 91H12373    Serial number: 0036M0G54GD%  
       Coding: 0030612
       Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
       VCID: 3B7EC4367AD29B9C0D-806E
    
       Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 6332DRB404744F30K
    
       Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6342DRB40478C716T
    
       Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6352ARB401DEFBABE
    
       Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6362ARB401DEFA711
    
       Subsystem 5 - Serial number: 63729RB401E4649EZ
    
       Subsystem 6 - Serial number: 63829RB401E46EDE7
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 8E0-953-549.lbl
       Part No: 8E0 953 549 Q
       Component: Lenksáulenmodul     0701  
       Coding: 02042
       Shop #: WSC 06335  
       VCID: 4182B6DE4B3EF14C57-4ACE
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 8E0-920-9xx-8EC.lbl
       Part No SW: 8E0 920 931 G    HW: 8E0 920 931 G
       Component: KOMBI+WFS 4     H14 0030  
       Revision: 0030        Serial number: 00000000000000
       Coding: 0005108
       Shop #: WSC 47856 001 1048576
       VCID: 2C5CF76A8CBC0C2494-50E6
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 25: Immobilizer        Labels: 8E0-920-9xx-8EC.lbl
       Part No SW: 8E0 920 931 G    HW: 8E0 920 931 G
       Component: KOMBI+WFS 4     H14 0030  
       Revision: 0030        Serial number: 00000000000000
       Coding: 0005108
       Shop #: WSC 47856 001 1048576
       VCID: 2C5CF76A8CBC0C2494-5102
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels:. 8E0-959-433-MAX.clb
       Part No: 8E0 959 433 CE
       Component: Komfortgerát T23    4135  
       Coding: 06992
       Shop #: WSC 00027  
       VCID: 76E81502527006F432-4ACE
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 8E1959801H
       Component: Tőrsteuer.FS BRM 0606  
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No: 8E1959802H
       Component: Tőrsteuer.BF BRM 0606  
    
       Subsystem 3 - Part No: 8E0959801E
       Component: Tőrsteuer.HL BRM 0606  
    
       Subsystem 4 - Part No: 8E0959802E
       Component: Tőrsteuer.HR BRM 0606  
    
    1 Faults Found:
    00955 - Key 1 
                35-10 -  -  - Intermittent
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 55: Headlight Range        Labels: 8P0-907-357.lbl
       Part No: 8P0 907 357 F
       Component: Dynamische LWR  H02 0010  
       Revision: 00000001    Serial number:               
       Coding: 0000005
       Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
       VCID: 3D7ACA2E64C695AC33-8068
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 76: Park Assist        Labels: 8E0-919-283-8EC.lbl
       Part No SW: 8E0 919 283 D    HW: 8E0 919 283 D
       Component: Parkhilfe 4-Kan H06 0010  
       Revision: 00H06000    Serial number: 00067802030633
       Coding: 0010014
       Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
       VCID: 3162E61EAB9E61CCA7-5102
    
    No fault code found.
    
    End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 06:38)--------------------------
    Last edited by Uwe; 05-07-2018 at 10:17 AM. Reason: CODE tags

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    OK, so what we have here is a Franken-car.

    BTW, I made an error a couple of posts up, the ABS is not what I found on CAN, the the airbag module is; but in the end, we can rul out that the problem is no communications on CAN. Most B7 ECUs are also do diagnostics on CAN, not on K-Line, which is why I was wondering about that.

    TBH, I'm a bit stumped as to what's going on here. But since it's now clear that all the modules you're having difficulties with are on K-line, we know what to focus on. It would be interesting to put an oscilloscope on the K-Line at the diagnostic connector to see if there's a noticeable difference between the HEX+CAN and the HEX-NET on this car. However, I'm guessing you don't have an oscilloscope?

    -Uwe-
    The engineering problems are likely insurmountable. It would be like proposing to land a rocket booster section on a barge floating in the middle of the ocean.

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