"Check Coding of ECUs on Powertrain Data Bus" after SAS install.

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rstjohn003

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I replaced the SAS/clockspring on this 2010 CC for a drivers airbag fault. Now the EPS light is on and wont reset. The only thing I coded was the 16-steering wheel module. I've tried just about all coding options on 16. Is there any way to see what module the ECU is complaining about?

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Friday,27,April,2018,07:58:55:30604
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 8.1 x64
VCDS Version: 18.2.0.3 (x64)
Data version: 20180212 DS287.0
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VIN: WVWMP7AN5AE566000   License Plate: 
Mileage: 169550km-105353mi   Repair Order: 



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Chassis Type: AN-VW46 (3C0)
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 1C 25 2E 42 44 46 52 53 56 62 65
          72 77

VIN: WVWMP7AN5AE566000   Mileage: 169550km-105353miles

01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
1C-Position Sensing -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
2E-Media Player 3 -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
53-Parking Brake -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
65-Tire Pressure -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000
 
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Address 01: Engine (CBF)       Labels:. 06J-907-115-CBF.clb
   Part No SW: 06J 906 021 C    HW: 06J 906 021 
   Component: MED17.1             6993  
   Revision: E3H23---    Serial number: VWZCZ000000000
   Coding: 040401081C070160
   Shop #: WSC 05314 000 00000
   VCID: 254A0AB2EC968A6C4B-8070

1 Fault Found:
005703 - Check Coding of ECUs on Powertrain Data Bus 
               P1647 - 000 -  - MIL ON
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 11100000
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 169554 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2012.09.16
                    Time: 16:10:11

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 947 /min
                    Load: 14.9 %
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                    Temperature: 105.0°C
                    Temperature: 78.0°C
                    Absolute Pres.: 1000.0 mbar

Readiness: 1110 0101

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Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 02E-927-770.clb
   Part No SW: 02E 300 053 A    HW: 02E 927 770 AL
   Component: GSG DSG AG6     511 2106  
   Revision:    51112    Serial number: 00001005072040
   Coding: 0000020
   Shop #: WSC 05311 000 08193
   VCID: 132E446A320204DCB5-8046

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 3C0-614-109-C4.clb
   Part No SW: 3C0 614 109 AF    HW: 3C0 614 109 AF
   Component: J104    C4 440 V2   0015  
   Revision: --025---    Serial number: 00000705670743
   Coding: 0000380
   Shop #: WSC 05311 000 08193
   VCID: 62C051AEBD383D546E-8036

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J301)       Labels:| 3C8-907-336.clb
   Part No SW: 3C8 907 336 AJ    HW: 3C8 907 336 AJ
   Component: Climatic      H14 0305  
   Revision: 00009001    
   Coding: 0000001002
   Shop #: WSC 05311 115 08193
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Climatic A01005
   ROD: EV_ClimaBasis_VW36.rod
   VCID: 75EA1AF2D4B6BAEC3B-8020

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels:. 3C0-937-049-30-H.lbl
   Part No SW: 3C8 937 049 E    HW: 3C8 937 049 E
   Component: Bordnetz-SG     H54 2602  
   Revision: 00H54000    Serial number: 00000003910711
   Coding: F1848F8B40041A0047970F00170000000028FB475C40017C174000000000
   Shop #: WSC 05124 000 00000
   VCID: 336EE4EA5242E4DCD5-8066

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 3C8 955 119 D  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer 170310 010  0603  
   Coding: 00046997
   Shop #: WSC 05124  

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 955 559 AH  Labels: 1K0-955-559-AG.CLB
   Component: RLS     080510 054  0403  
   Coding: 00209133
   Shop #: WSC 05124  

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 5N0-959-655.lbl
   Part No SW: 5N0 959 655 Q    HW: 5N0 959 655 Q
   Component: J234__302 VW10 HI   1918  
   Revision: 22014000    Serial number: 003JZP99H6VP  
   Coding: 0012338
   Shop #: WSC 05311 000 08193
   VCID: 4B9E9C0A2AB29C1CBD-801E

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 3C8 959 339 
   Component: BF-Gewichtsens. 001 0003

   Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 00000000006TFX

   Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 0013.04.100000100000630055ÿ†63

   Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 630055ÿ†6332MTS624090900 ÿ†63

   Subsystem 5 - Serial number: 90900 ÿ†6342MTS671330890 ÿ†63

   Subsystem 6 - Serial number: 30890 ÿ†6351HTS6635G89KR ÿ†63

   Subsystem 7 - Serial number: G89KR ÿ†6361HTS61V5MA6KJ ÿ†63

   Subsystem 8 - Serial number: MA6KJ ÿ†63727TS6I17G89KR ÿ†63

   Subsystem 9 - Serial number: G89KR ÿ†63827TS6678G89KR ÿ

   Subsystem 10 - Serial number: G89KR ÿ

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels:| 5K0-953-569.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 569 AS    HW: 5K0 953 569 AS
   Component: LENKS.MODUL   016 0180  
   Revision: --X01---    Serial number: 20151125201403
   Coding: 0182A10000
   Shop #: WSC 01286 386 08256
   ASAM Dataset: EV_VW360SteerWheelUDS A03004
   ROD: EV_VW360SteerWheelUDS.rod
   VCID: 09126602A84ECE0C4F-805C

   Multifunction steering wheel control module: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 3C8 959 537 D    HW: 3C8 959 537 D  Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
   Component: E221__MFL-TK6  H06 0022 
   Serial number: 50000000000000161265
   Coding: E20000

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 3C8-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
   Part No SW: 3C8 920 970 M    HW: 3C8 920 970 M
   Component: KOMBI         H03 0305  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 240F00
   Shop #: WSC 05314 115 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04052
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_004_VW32.rod
   VCID: 3668DDFE8930F1F4F2-8062

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels:. 3C0-907-530-V3.clb
   Part No SW: 3C0 907 530 Q    HW: 3C0 907 951 
   Component: J533  Gateway   H13 0172  
   Revision:   H13       Serial number: 3620P1050704BF
   Coding: FD807F07001612009002
   Shop #: WSC 05314 000 00000
   VCID: 2F66E89ABE6AC03CB1-807A

No fault code found.

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Address 1C: Position Sensing        Labels: 1Kx-919-xxx-1C.lbl
   Part No SW: 3C8 919 965     HW: 3C8 919 965 
   Component: Kompass         001 0001  
   Revision: 00001000    Serial number: 1614128R1VW303
   Coding: 0000002
   Shop #: WSC 05314 000 00000
   VCID: 75EA1AF21CB6BAEC3B-8020

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer        Labels: 3C0-959-433-25.clb
   Part No SW: 3C0 959 433 AP    HW: 3C0 959 433 AP
   Component:    IMMO         052 0383  
   Revision: 00052000    Serial number: VWZCZ000000000
   Shop #: WSC 131071 1023 2097151
   VCID: 78F413C60BA4C78420-802C

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 3C0 905 861 H
   Component:    ELV          028 0380
   3C0905861H     ELV          028 0380   

No fault code found.

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Address 2E: Media Player 3 (J650)       Labels:. 5N0-035-342.lbl
   Part No SW: 5N0 035 342 B    HW: 5N0 035 342 B
   Component: SG EXT.PLAYER H13 0090  
   Revision: A1001003    Serial number: 7668032093    
   Coding: 010000
   Shop #: WSC 05314 000 00000
   VCID: 26480DBE5190817442-8072

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels:| 3C0-959-70X-GEN4.clb
   Part No SW: 1T0 959 701 AG    HW: 3C0 959 793 A
   Component: TUER-SG FT    002 0307  
   Revision: 12101005    Serial number: 0000844883
   Coding: 0004B7
   Shop #: WSC 05311 115 08193
   ASAM Dataset: EV_DCU42BroseDriveSide A03004
   ROD: EV_DCU42BroseDriveSide_VW32.rod
   VCID: 7CFC0FD6F79CEBA444-8028

   Slave Driver: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 3C8 959 703 C    HW: 3C0 959 795 B  Labels: 1K0-959-70X-GEN4.CLB
   Component: J388__TSG-HL  004 0401 
   Serial number: 00000001451680      
   Coding: 000490

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 5N1-909-144.clb
   Part No SW: 5N1 909 144 K    HW: 5N1 909 148 G
   Component: J500__APA-BS KL.141 0703  
   Revision: 1AH03726    Serial number: 00101240176101
   Coding: 0000258
   Shop #: WSC 05311 000 08193
   VCID: 3A70C9CE7528159416-806E

No fault code found.

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Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels:. 3C0-959-433-46.clb
   Part No SW: 3C0 959 433 AP    HW: 3C0 959 433 AP
   Component:    KSG PQ46 RDK 052 0412  
   Revision: 00052000    Serial number: VWZCZ000000000
   Coding: 13910F8001862E521204141FF08A0F0E085801
   Shop #: WSC 05311 000 08193
   VCID: 78F413C60BA4C78420-802C

   Subsystem 1 - Component:   Sounder n.mounted     

   Subsystem 2 - Component:       NGS n.mounted     

   Subsystem 3 - Component:      IRUE n.mounted     

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels:| 3C0-959-70X-GEN4.clb
   Part No SW: 1T0 959 702 AC    HW: 3C0 959 792 A
   Component: TUER-SG BT    002 0307  
   Revision: 14101005    Serial number: 0000833325
   Coding: 0004B6
   Shop #: WSC 05311 115 08193
   ASAM Dataset: EV_DCU52BrosePasseSide A03004
   ROD: EV_DCU52BrosePasseSide.rod
   VCID: 79F216C2F8AEDE8C5F-802C

   Slave Passenger: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 3C8 959 704 C    HW: 3C0 959 794 B  Labels: 1K0-959-70X-GEN4.CLB
   Component: J389__TSG-HR  004 0401 
   Serial number: 00000001438388      
   Coding: 000490

No fault code found.

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Address 53: Parking Brake        Labels: 5N0-907-801.clb
   Part No SW: 3C8 907 801 E    HW: 3C8 907 801 E
   Component: J540 EPB3  VW-15417 0007  
   Revision:   010       Serial number: 00000000270634
   Coding: 0000057
   Shop #: WSC 05311 000 08193
   VCID: 2C5CFF968F7CBB2494-8078

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio (J503)       Labels:. 5M0-035-1xx-56.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 035 180 AC    HW: 1K0 035 180 AC
   Component: Radio Prem-8  H10 0035  
   Revision: -----20S    Serial number: VWZ4Z7K1136318
   Coding: 0100040004
   Shop #: WSC 05311 000 08193
   VCID: 61C25EA2783E264C77-8034

1 Fault Found:
02635 - Tuner Not Enabled/Activated 
            000 -  - 
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 208
                    Mileage: 169554 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2012.09.16
                    Time: 16:09:10


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Address 65: Tire Pressure        Labels: 3C0-959-433-65.lbl
   Part No SW: 3C0 959 433 AP    HW: 3C0 959 433 AP
   Component:    RDK              0453  
   Revision: 00052000    Serial number: VWZCZ000000000
   Coding: 0100101
   Shop #: WSC 05311 000 08193
   VCID: 78F413C60BA4C78420-802C

No fault code found.

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Address 77: Telephone        Labels: 5P0-862-335.lbl
   Part No SW: 1Z0 035 729 E    HW: 1Z0 035 729 E
   Component: FSE_2P8x        H40 0190  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 00000005268601
   Coding: 0013077
   Shop #: WSC 05311 000 08193
   VCID: 3A70C9CE7528159416-806E

No fault code found.

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Your steering wheel coding, is it exactly the same as before? To me it looks like cruise is at least coded wrong. Byte 2 bit 4-7. Wrong cruise configuration triggers the ECU powertrain error.
 
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I don't see a coding issue with a power train SMOG related part for engine or transmission that should illuminate an MIL

Try this in 0x16 please....

Coding: 098A270002

1 Fault Found:
005703 - Check Coding of ECUs on Powertrain Data Bus
P1647 - 000 - - MIL ON
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 11100000
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 169554 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2012.09.16
Time: 16:10:11

Freeze Frame:
RPM: 947 /min
Load: 14.9 %
Speed: 0.0 km/h
Temperature: 105.0°C
Temperature: 78.0°C
Absolute Pres.: 1000.0 mbar

Did you try clearing the DTC and is the MIL actually illuminated?

The AS for the 0x16 has multiple supersession parts and is a combined part with SAS....did you swap all parts combined?

http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/18055/P1647/005703

Maybe SVM at dealer and do you have a legacy scan?

Does this seem like an abuse of the OBD2 specification by the OEM & to illuminate the MIL to create unjust enrichment without supporting documentation tables provided in the RTFB, further causing unfair competition?
 
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I don't see a coding issue with a power train SMOG related part for engine or transmission that should illuminate an MIL

Try this in 0x16 please....

Coding: 098A270002



Did you try clearing the DTC and is the MIL actually illuminated?

The AS for the 0x16 has multiple supersession parts and is a combined part with SAS....did you swap all parts combined?

http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/18055/P1647/005703

Maybe SVM at dealer and do you have a legacy scan?

Does this seem like an abuse of the OBD2 specification by the OEM & to illuminate the MIL to create unjust enrichment without supporting documentation tables provided in the RTFB, further causing unfair competition?

This coding worked! I didnt check the coding with original unit. I didnt know it was in 16 - steering wheel. After installation of the new unit, the coding that was there was wrong. For example, it had rear wiper enabled. Next time Ill get old coding first.
Thanks!
 
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