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    Issues entering Long coding

    Is my HEX USB+CAN interface now out of date and I need to upgrade to a HEX-NET? I am having a few issues but mainly long coding values that won't go in and adaptations where the message says aborted for safety reasons.

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    Neither of both is likely going to be resolved by switching to new hardware. You may want to verify the values you are entering and double check (i.e. if the hardware actually supports the options in question), what the safety reasons are etc.
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    What concerns me and is causing my customers to ask questions is the UDS message in a lot of fault code reads, one nasty piece of work had a go at me over it saying my diagnostic equipment was rubbish amateur stuff and he should not be paying me for the code read...

    The aborted for safety reasons and inability to enter long coding were solved using Delphi and ODIS respectively, VCDS failed me in both instances.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crasher View Post
    What concerns me and is causing my customers to ask questions is the UDS message in a lot of fault code reads, one nasty piece of work had a go at me over it saying my diagnostic equipment was rubbish amateur stuff and he should not be paying me for the code read...

    The aborted for safety reasons and inability to enter long coding were solved using Delphi and ODIS respectively, VCDS failed me in both instances.
    Might be worth posting examples of those messages: "UDS message", "aborted for safety reasons" as well as details of when/where you couldn't enter long coding - otherwise we can only guess at the problems and solutions.

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    This is a screen shot of the code I have just read this morning on a Q3, this is after I tried to clear the code but it would not clear and I could not see how to deal with it.

    Instruments fault code screen shot for web by Steve Cresswell, on Flickr

    This is the code read before I tried to clear the error.

    Code:
                                         VCDS
               Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
           VCDS Version: Release 18.2.0(x64) Data version: 20180212 DS287.0
                                  www.Ross-Tech.com
    
                          Dealer/Shop Name: C&R Enterprises
                           Workshop Code: 210 01523 000001
    
                                  Self-Diagnosis Log
                         Monday,16,April,2018,10:00:25:58544
    
                   VIN: WAUZZZ8U8ER079071   License Plate: 
         Mileage: 59970km-37263mi   Repair Order: Haldex oil change pre scan
    
        Chassis Type: 8U-AU21 (8U0)
    
        Scan: 01 03 08 09 10 15 16 17 19 22 25 42 44 46 52 53 55 5F 62 72
    
        VIN: WAUZZZ8U8ER079071   Mileage: 59970km-37263miles
    
        01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
        03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
        04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
        08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
        09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
        10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
        15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
        16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
        17-Instruments -- Status: Malfunction 0010
        19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
        22-AWD -- Status: OK 0000
        25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
        42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
        44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
        46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
        52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
        53-Parking Brake -- Status: OK 0000
        55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000
        5F-Information Electr. -- Status: OK 0000
        62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
        72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------
        Address 01: Engine (J623-CFFB)       Labels:. 03L-906-018-CFF.clb
           Part No SW: 03L 906 018 CM    HW: 03L 906 018 ES
           Component: R4 2.0l TDI   H28 9977  
           Revision: 41H28---    Serial number:               
           Coding: 00190012041701080000
           Shop #: WSC 28722 001 1048576
           ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM20TDI01103L906018CM 003005
           ROD: EV_ECM20TDI01103L906018CM.rod
           VCID: 77FBB791CE29F4FC29-8022
    
        No fault code found.
        Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0 
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------
        Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 5N0-614-109-C6.clb
           Part No SW: 5N0 614 109 BL    HW: 5N0 614 109 BL
           Component: J104   C6 450M V45C 0151  
           Revision: --H07---    Serial number: 00000007886774
           Coding: 0052359
           Shop #: WSC 00049 770 00153
           VCID: 76E5BA9501238DF432-8022
    
        No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------
        Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 8P0-820-043.lbl
           Part No SW: 8U0 820 043 D    HW: 8U0 820 043 D
           Component: E87  Klimavoll      0100  
           Revision: 00H04000    Serial number: 8U0820043D
           Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
           VCID: 326D4685ADCBD1D4DE-8066
    
        No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------
        Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 8X0-907-063.clb
           Part No SW: 8X0 907 063 N    HW: 8X0 907 063 N
           Component: BCM PQ35  M   112 0775  
           Revision: AH112775    
           Coding: 0E000A2CA805F1C0201841C00100094C43FF84AA206F912BE400878400C1
           Shop #: WSC 00049 770 00009
           VCID: 479B0751F649447C99-8012
    
           Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8U2 955 119     HW: 8U2 955 119   Labels: 1KX-955-
           Component: WWS316 140201  H37 0085 
           Serial number:         140204223415
           Coding: 0047F7
    
           Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8U0 955 559 B    HW: 8U0 955 559 B  Labels: 8U0-95
           Component: G397_RLFS  H06 0002 
           Serial number: 22248726            
           Coding: 02006E
    
           Subsystem 3 - Part No: 8X0 951 177 
           Component: DWA-Sensor H0  H01 0020 
    
           Subsystem 4 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
           Component: LIN BACKUP HO  H05 1501 
    
        No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------
        Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446)       Labels:| 8X0-919-475.clb
           Part No SW: 8X0 919 475 Q    HW: 8X0 919 475 
           Component: PARKHILFE 4K  H03 0070  
           Revision: 11001001    Serial number: 37031402201029
           Coding: 0C0005
           Shop #: WSC 00049 770 00118
           ASAM Dataset: EV_EPHVA14AU21X0000 003006
           ROD: EV_EPHVA14AU21X0000_003.rod
           VCID: 54A1201D3F1FFFE4EC-8000
    
        No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------
        Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 8X0-959-655.clb
           Part No SW: 8U0 959 655 B    HW: 8U0 959 655 B
           Component: AirbagVW-AU10 H08 0520  
           Serial number: 003LRR07K0V7  
           Coding: 30393132313030303030554A305238553053
           Shop #: WSC 00049 770 00118
           ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaAU10SMEAU316 001005
           ROD: EV_AirbaAU10SMEAU316_001.rod
           VCID: 46850A55F9435D7462-8012
    
           Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side: 
           Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 351 A    HW: 5K0 959 351 A
           Component: S.Sens.Fahr.V  H02 ---- 
           Serial number: 3496KSME75501F2CZZZ0
    
           Crash sensor for side airbag: front passenger side: 
           Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 351 A    HW: 5K0 959 351 A
           Component: S.Sens.Beif.V  H02 ---- 
           Serial number: 3506KSME7600632BZZZN
    
           Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: driver side: 
           Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 351 A    HW: 5K0 959 351 A
           Component: S.Sens.Fahr.H  H02 ---- 
           Serial number: 3516KSME5E12212CZZZS
    
           Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: passenger side: 
           Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 351 A    HW: 5K0 959 351 A
           Component: S.Sens.Beif.H  H02 ---- 
           Serial number: 3526KSME232C6B2BZZZ$
    
           Crash sensor for front airbag: driver side: 
           Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: 8U0 959 651     HW: 8U0 959 651 
           Component: F.Sens.Fahr  H02 ---- 
           Serial number: 3555USME3B59262BZZZ8
    
        No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------
        Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels:| 8X0-953-569.clb
           Part No SW: 8X0 953 521 B    HW: 5K0 953 569 AE
           Component: LENKS.MODUL   016 0140  
           Revision: FF010018    Serial number: 20140221100696
           Coding: 1084004000
           Shop #: WSC 00049 770 00118
           ASAM Dataset: EV_SMLSNGVOLWSXS A01004
           ROD: EV_SMLSNGVOLWS.rod
           VCID: 3B736BA1B281109C0D-806E
    
           Multifunction steering wheel control module: 
           Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8U0 951 528 G    HW: 8U0 951 528 G
           Component: E221 - MFL  H08 0010 
    
        No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------
        Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 8X0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
           Part No SW: 8U0 920 980 E    HW: 8U0 920 980 E
           Component: KOMBI_MEDIUM  H01 0330  
           Serial number: 00000000000000
           Coding: 42CF00
           Shop #: WSC 00049 770 00118
           ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_AU10 A04399
           ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_AU10.rod
           VCID: 3E7562B5A19305B42A-806A
    
        1 Fault Found:
        1048578 - No Basic Setting 
                  B2010 00 [009] -  - 
                  [New feature! Extended UDS fault detail is only supported by current 
                  Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 6
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 84
                        Mileage: 59415 km
                        Date: 2018.03.23
                        Time: 14:24:25
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------
        Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels: 8X0-907-468.clb
           Part No SW: 8U0 907 468 Q    HW: 8U0 907 468 G
           Component: GAT 4CAN 1L M H13 0063  
           Revision: 1P120037    Serial number: 3741P1420905AB
           Coding: FBCF1A5A000100610353
           Shop #: WSC 00049 770 00118
           VCID: 50A92C0D030783C4C8-8004
    
           Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 1K0 915 181 H    HW: 1K0 915 181 A
           Component: J367-BDM  H07 0180 
           Serial number: 41056508331491813244
    
           Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8K0 959 663     HW: 8K0 959 663 
           Component: J532_DCDCStab  H17 0042 
           Serial number: 14056003533021200181
    
        No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------
        Address 22: AWD (J492)       Labels:* 0CQ-907-554.clb
           Part No SW: 0AY 907 554 F    HW: 0AY 907 554 F
           Component: Haldex4Motion H52 7521  
           Serial number: HA1-00012.02.14
           Coding: 0001
           Shop #: WSC 00049 770 00153
           ASAM Dataset: EV_AllWheelContrHA1VW37X 002001
           ROD: EV_AllWheelContrHA1VW37X.rod
           VCID: 4E95327511339534DA-801A
    
        No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------
        Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
           Part No SW: 8U0 920 980 E    HW: 8U0 920 980 E
           Component: IMMO          H01 0330  
           Serial number:               
           Coding: 000002
           Shop #: WSC 00049 770 00118
           ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_AU10 A04113
           ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_AU10.rod
           VCID: 3E7562B5A19305B42A-806A
    
        No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------
        Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels:. 8X0-959-793.clb
           Part No SW: 8X0 959 793 H    HW: 8X0 959 793 H
           Component: TSG FA        H10 0415  
           Revision: --------    Serial number: --------------
           Coding: 011806200001000000
           Shop #: WSC 00049 770 00153
           VCID: 52AD26050D0BF1D4FE-8006
    
        No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------
        Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1K0-909-14x-GEN3.clb
           Part No: 5N0 909 144 R
           Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 296    3501  
           Revision: 00H22000    
           Shop #: WSC 00049 770 00153
           VCID: 40891C4D1367734458-8014
    
        No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------
        Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels:. 8X0-959-792.clb
           Part No SW: 8X0 959 792 H    HW: 8X0 959 792 H
           Component: TSG BF        H10 0415  
           Revision: --------    Serial number: --------------
           Coding: 011806200001000000
           Shop #: WSC 00049 770 00153
           VCID: 51AF2909080D8ACCC7-8004
    
        No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------
        Address 53: Parking Brake        Labels: 3AA-907-801.clb
           Part No SW: 3AA 907 801 H    HW: 3AA 907 801 H
           Component: J540 EPB4  VW-86594 0010  
           Revision:   H19       Serial number: 00000001928261
           Coding: 0025167
           Shop #: WSC 00049 770 00153
           VCID: 36657A9541A3CDF4F2-8062
    
        No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------
        Address 55: Headlight Range (J431)       Labels:| 8X0-907-357.clb
           Part No SW: 8X0 907 357 C    HW: 8X0 907 357 B
           Component: ****LWR12**** H02 0020  
           Serial number: 140217-0002-195
           Coding: 1157A41010002500
           Shop #: WSC 00049 770 00153
           ASAM Dataset: EV_HeadlRegulBasic 005001
           ROD: EV_HeadlRegulBasic.rod
           VCID: 428D1645D56B61544E-8016
    
        No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------
        Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794)       Labels: None
           Part No SW: 8U0 035 192 E    HW: 8U0 035 192 C
           Component: RMC Nav Plus  H55 0801  
           Coding: 01010600020153070823020103010000000000
           Shop #: WSC 00049 770 00118
           VCID: 36657A9581A3CDF4F2-8062
    
           Subsystem 1 - Part No: 8X0 919 884 J
           Component: P32-50-15.03  0001 
    
           Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8U0 919 603 A    HW: 8U0 919 603 A
           Component: DUBasic AU316  H42 0018 
           Serial number: AUZ8ZDEM500MSKR     
    
        No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------
        Address 62: Door, Rear Left (J388)       Labels: None
           Part No SW: 8X0 959 795 C    HW: 8X0 959 795 C
           Component: TSG HL        H07 0415  
           Revision: --------    Serial number: --------------
           Coding: 010006200001000000
           Shop #: WSC 00049 770 00153
           VCID: 4FAB2F711E399C3CD1-801A
    
        No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------
        Address 72: Door, Rear Right (J389)       Labels: None
           Part No SW: 8X0 959 795 C    HW: 8X0 959 795 C
           Component: TSG HR        H07 0415  
           Revision: --------    Serial number: --------------
           Coding: 010006200001000000
           Shop #: WSC 00049 770 00153
           VCID: 4FAB2F711E399C3CD1-801A
    
        No fault code found.
    
    End----------------------------------------------------------------------

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    Right, the "New feature! Extended UDS fault detail" is only available with our current generation of interfaces.

    FWIW, the dealers' ODIS software doesn't provide this info at all.

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    It's telling you what the fault is:

    Code:
    1 Fault Found:
        1048578 - No Basic Setting 
                  B2010 00 [009] -  - 
                  [New feature! Extended UDS fault detail is only supported by current 
                  Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 6
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 84
                        Mileage: 59415 km
                        Date: 2018.03.23
                        Time: 14:24:25
    You won't be able to just clear the fault code, you need to RTFB to learn how to set the "Basic Setting" on this module.

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    And normally in this case, it means there are wrong values in Adaptation channels in the Instrument.
    It would be interesting to see what "New feature" text is this case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NEtech View Post
    And normally in this case, it means there are wrong values in Adaptation channels in the Instrument.
    It would be interesting to see what "New feature" text is this case.
    An Adaptation Channel map could be helpful too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PetrolDave View Post
    You won't be able to just clear the fault code, you need to RTFB to learn how to set the "Basic Setting" on this module.
    There is no information provided in the VCDS Basic Settings on this and there is no book on the Q3 plus there is no facility for direct entry to try any of the usual ones.

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