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    P0346 CAMSHAFT POSITION SENSOR IMPLAUSIBLE SIGNAL INTERMITTENT (G163)

    Hello

    I own a Touareg 2012 V8 4.2L Fuel engine and I am having trouble with the camshaft position sensor.

    It has been replaced the two sensors (g163) and (g40) and the fault is still present.

    Also it has been inspected the sensor 3 plug cables and they are working as it should with the 6 volts.

    The fault code appears only when you start the engine, sometimes you can hear a knock sound 2 seconds when starting, the fault frequency can appear many times before you clear again the code.

    I am thinking that the knock sound is because of a loose cam adjuster or time change misaligned?

    Let me know your comments.

    Thank you.
    Last edited by rafa3092; 04-09-2018 at 01:51 PM.

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    Please post an Auto-Scan for context.

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    The engineering problems are likely insurmountable. It would be like proposing to land a rocket booster section on a barge floating in the middle of the ocean.

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    Is the cambelt timing set correct with the special tool?
    Cambelt tensioner and hydraulic tensioner in good oreder?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uwe View Post
    Please post an Auto-Scan for context.

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    Along with auto scan, what is the condition of the oil?

    Larimore

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    Good morning here is the Auto-Scan:

    Let me know your comments please.

    Code:
    Monday,09,April,2018,23:55:24:38924
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x86
    VCDS Version: 18.2.0.3  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4411.4
    Data version: 20180212 DS287.0
    www.Ross-Tech.com
    
    
    VIN: WVGAN87P2CD057736   License Plate: 
    Mileage: 77664km-48258mi   Repair Order: 4673
    
    
    
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    
    Chassis Type: 7P-VW52 (7P6)
    Scan: 01 02 03 05 06 08 09 10 15 16 17 19 28 34 36 42 46 52 53 55
              56 5F 62 6C 6D 72
    
    VIN: WVGAN87P2CD057736   Mileage: 77664km-48258miles
    
    01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
    04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
    05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: OK 0000
    06-Seat Mem. Pass -- Status: OK 0000
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
    10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
    28-HVAC, Rear -- Status: OK 0000
    34-Level Control -- Status: OK 0000
    36-Seat Mem. Drvr -- Status: OK 0000
    42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
    46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
    52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
    53-Parking Brake -- Status: OK 0000
    55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000
    56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
    5F-Information Electr. -- Status: OK 0000
    62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
    6C-Back-up Cam. -- Status: OK 0000
    6D-Trunk Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
    72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine (------CGNA)       Labels:* None
       Part No SW: 7P0 907 560     HW: 7P0 907 560 
       Component: 4.2l V8/4V    H05 0003  
       Revision: N9H05---    
       Coding: 04210003290F0558
       Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
       ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM42FSI0117P0907560 001005
       ROD: EV_ECM42FSI0117P0907560.rod
       VCID: 72BC2BE68426A15774C-8026
    
    1 Fault Found:
    8626 - Camshaft Position Sensor (G163) 
              P0346 00 [096] - Implausible Signal
              Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 5
                        Mileage: 77590 km
                        Date: 2018.04.07
                        Time: 14:41:32
    
                        Engine speed: 1066.00 /min
                        Normed load value: 50.6 %
                        Vehicle speed: 0 km/h
                        Coolant temperature: 87 °C
                        Intake air temperature: 68 °C
                        Ambient air pressure: 750 mbar
                        Voltage terminal 30: 11.756 V
                        Unlearning counter according OBD: 35
                        AFS dm: 77.2 kg/h
                        Median injection timing: 1.620 ms
                        Engine operating condition-Channel 87: Idling
                        Relative load value: 32.25 %
                        Tumg: 27.8 °C
                        Psr w: 547.66 hPa
                        Engine torque: 126.6 Nm
    
    Readiness: 0000 0000
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 02: Auto Trans (J217)       Labels:| 0C8-927-750.clb
       Part No SW: 0C8 927 750 B    HW: 0C8 927 750 B
       Component: AL1000 AISIN  001 2074  
       Serial number:               
       Coding: 001168
       Shop #: WSC 00017 993 999999
       ASAM Dataset: EV_TCMAL991031 002112
       ROD: EV_TCMAL991031_002.rod
       VCID: 2B02F682638CB09FF7A-807E
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels:| 7P0-907-379.clb
       Part No SW: 7P0 907 379 J    HW: 7P0 907 379 A
       Component: MK25A         H36 0433  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 409320010EC815
       Coding: 5B6B53C32329255ADAFBCA96C4D8A440F700
       Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
       ASAM Dataset: EV_MK25AXT 008001
       ROD: EV_ESPMK25A00800.rod
       VCID: 44D0BD3EEE125FE7160-8010
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. (J393)       Labels:. 8K0-907-064-05.clb
       Part No SW: 4H0 907 064 BK    HW: 4H0 907 064 BK
       Component: BCM2 2.0      H31 0333  
       Revision: 00002001    
       Coding: 0D860000000000000000
       Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
       VCID: 73B22EE2FBBCA85F7FA-8026
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 4H0 905 852 B    HW: 4H0 905 852 B
       Component: J764 ELV MLB  H40 0046 
       Serial number: 2312000035125015    
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 06: Seat Mem. Pass (J521)       Labels: None
       Part No SW: 4H0 959 760 D    HW: 4H0 959 760 D
       Component: MEM-BFS       H08 0153  
       Revision: AA000000    Serial number: 00000026770795
       Coding: 0018330000004201000001010101202020202121202020
       Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
       VCID: 3430EDFEBE32EF67A60-8060
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels:| 7P6-907-040.clb
       Part No SW: 7P6 907 040 BK    HW: 7P6 907 040 BK
       Component: Klima 4 Zonen H20 1305  
       Coding: 4886207EC0
       Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
       ASAM Dataset: EV_AirCondiFront 004001
       ROD: EV_AirCondiFront_VW52.rod
       VCID: 7EA40FD6C07EF537004-802A
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 4H0-907-063-V1.clb
       Part No SW: 4H0 907 063 BL    HW: 4H0 907 063 D
       Component: BCM1 2.0      H12 0111  
       Revision: 15012002    Serial number: 00000001279295
       Coding: 26001011D1345D010021000380005D0C431C470882010261800000020000
       Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
       VCID: 73B22EE2FBBCA85F7FA-8026
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 7P0 955 119     HW: 7P0 955 119   Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
       Component: WWS    120214  31  0020 
       Serial number: 90243400120224215304
       Coding: 004DBD
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 7P0 955 559 D    HW: 7P0 955 559 D  Labels: 8K0-955-559.CLB
       Component: RLFS  H09 0011 
       Serial number: 10351513            
       Coding: 025223
    
       Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 7P6 941 431 E    HW: 7P6 941 431 E
       Component: E1 - LDS  H04 0031 
       Serial number: 00000000000204120047
    
       Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 4H0 907 410 A    HW: 4H0 907 410 A
       Component: USHL4.2  H30 0020 
       Serial number: 0000001805569R11GY07
    
       Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: 4H0 907 705 K    HW: 4H0 907 705 C
       Component: EVLS-SG  H08 0300 
       Serial number: WA103085000001114693
       Coding: 010300
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446)       Labels:| 7P6-919-475.clb
       Part No SW: 7P6 919 475 B    HW: 7N0 919 475 
       Component: PARKHILFE 8K  H05 0021  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 28261208903238
       Coding: 308501
       Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
       ASAM Dataset: EV_VW526ParkiAssis2 001011
       ROD: EV_VW526ParkiAssis2.rod
       VCID: 42DCBB26F40651D724C-8016
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 7P0-959-655.clb
       Part No SW: 7P0 959 655 C    HW: 7P0 959 655 C
       Component: VW10Airbag001 H05 0025  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 003L0002JSXK
       Coding: 000000000000000000000000000000003031
       Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
       ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW526 001001
       ROD: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW526_001.rod
       VCID: 41DEB42AF1004ACF3D6-8014
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side: 
       Serial number: 3575LRB405F18NQQBGA9
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag: front passenger side: 
       Serial number: 3585LRB405R17UE0E8I-
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: driver side: 
       Serial number: 3515RRB405117ABU609Y
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: passenger side: 
       Serial number: 3525RRB405517ABU90ND
    
       Crash sensor for front airbag: driver side: 
       Serial number: 3555NRB406118E5G7P5%
    
       Crash sensor for front airbag: front passenger side: 
       Serial number: 3565NRB406118E5G2GUB
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels:. 4H0-953-568.clb
       Part No SW: 4H0 953 568 H    HW: 7P6 953 507 M
       Component: Lenks.Modul   H03 0005  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 90815LD60002N 
       Coding: 000C35
       Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
       VCID: 3828D9CEA25A0B078A8-806C
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 7P6 959 542     HW: 7P6 959 542 
       Component: E221__MFL-TAS  H03 0027 
       Serial number: 0164366             
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 7P6-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
       Part No SW: 7P6 920 881 S    HW: 7P6 920 881 S
       Component: Kombi         H14 0253  
       Revision: 12240067    Serial number: 658300312592063
       Coding: 133732003A000008000004
       Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
       ASAM Dataset: EV_KombiUDSRBVW526 001013
       ROD: EV_KombiUDSRBVW526.rod
       VCID: 4CC0951EC64297A7DE0-8018
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels: None
       Part No SW: 7P6 907 530 C    HW: 7P6 907 530 A
       Component: GW-CAN-L-MOST H08 5202  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 00000000467553
       Coding: 0021034800
       Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
       ASAM Dataset: EV_GatewVW526UDS 001006
       ROD: EV_GatewUDS_VW52.rod
       VCID: 3828D9CEA2DA0B078A8-806C
    
       Battery Monitoring Control Module: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 7P0 915 181 A    HW: 7P0 915 181 
       Component: Batt_Sensor  H07 0140 
       Serial number: 00000000005650658939
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 28: HVAC, Rear (E265)       Labels:* None
       Part No SW: 7P6 907 049 P    HW: 7P6 907 049 P
       Component: Klima Fond    H14 1305  
       Coding: 0000000000
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       ASAM Dataset: EV_AirCondiHeck 001007
       ROD: EV_AirCondiHeck.rod
       VCID: 4ACC9306CC368997ECC-801E
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 34: Level Control (J197)       Labels:. 7P0-907-553.clb
       Part No SW: 7P0 907 553 K    HW: 7P0 907 553 K
       Component: PASM          H01 1110  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 00000120730186
       Coding: 14210000
       Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
       ASAM Dataset: EV_PASMConti 001004
       ROD: EV_PASMConti.rod
       VCID: 3FDAB2D287F43C3F4B2-806A
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 36: Seat Mem. Drvr (J136)       Labels: None
       Part No SW: 4H0 959 760 D    HW: 4H0 959 760 D
       Component: MEM-FS        H08 0153  
       Revision: AA000000    Serial number: 00000026768091
       Coding: 00183B0000004201000001010101202020202121202020
       Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
       VCID: 3430EDFEBE32EF67A60-8060
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels: None
       Part No SW: 4H0 959 793 N    HW: 4H0 959 793 F
       Component: TSG FA        H07 0166  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 0000126124617 
       Coding: 011D1720DE00451205080002
       Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
       VCID: 44D0BD3EEE925FE7160-8010
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 46: Central Conv. (J393)       Labels:. 4H0-907-064-46.clb
       Part No SW: 4H0 907 064 BK    HW: 4H0 907 064 BK
       Component: BCM2 2.0      H31 0333  
       Revision: 00002001    Serial number: 0174008358    
       Coding: 011E163A28B9509583300620010000000000000000000000000000000000
       Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
       VCID: 73B22EE2FBBCA85F7FA-8026
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 7P6 959 719     HW: 7P6 959 719 
       Component: GTO BT  H19 0059 
       Serial number: 0821212358          
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No: 7P6 951 171 
       Component: DWA-Sensor  002 0204 
    
       Subsystem 3 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
       Component: LIN BACKUP HO  H05 1501 
    
       Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 7P0 959 591 B    HW: 7P0 959 591 B
       Component: J245 PS30.055  H01 0008 
       Serial number:     WOO15653475     
       Coding: 191100
    
       Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: 7P0 959 591 C    HW: 7P0 959 591 C
       Component: J394 PS30.055  H01 0008 
       Serial number:     WOO1569877H     
       Coding: 191100
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels: None
       Part No SW: 4H0 959 792 F    HW: 4H0 959 792 F
       Component: TSG BF        H07 0166  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 0000126247944 
       Coding: 011D1720DE00451205080000
       Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
       VCID: 3B22C6C2936C201F67A-806E
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 53: Parking Brake (J540-)       Labels:| 7P0-907-801.clb
       Part No SW: 7P0 907 801 F    HW: 7P0 907 801 F
       Component: EPB           H51 1201  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: C1232500220   
       Coding: 01040100
       Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
       ASAM Dataset: EV_ParkbA7 000006
       ROD: EV_ParkbA7.rod
       VCID: 3634D7F6A8CEFD77984-8062
    
       Slave 3: 
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 55: Headlight Range (J745)       Labels:. 7P6-907-357.clb
       Part No SW: 7P6 907 357     HW: 7L6 907 357 C
       Component: AFS-ECU       H04 0110  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: --------------
       Coding: 012A00000F000200
       Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
       ASAM Dataset: EV_HeadlRegulVWAFS 005006
       ROD: EV_HeadlRegulVWAFS_VW52.rod
       VCID: 7CA005DED662E7272E0-8028
    
       Left_headlamp_power_output_stage: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8U0 941 329     HW: 8U0 941 329   Labels: 3D0-941-329.CLB
       Component: LeiMo links  H01 0002 
       Coding: 130000
    
       Right_headlamp_power_output_stage: 
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8U0 941 329     HW: 8U0 941 329   Labels: 3D0-941-329.CLB
       Component: LeiMo rechts  H01 0002 
       Coding: 130000
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 56: Radio (R)       Labels: Redir Fail!
       Part No SW: 4G1 035 053 E    HW: 4G1 035 053 
       Component: Radio U Basic H41 0093  
       Revision: AB001007    Serial number: 227DZ0C7561625
       Coding: 050005020100000003
       Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
       VCID: 211E14AA11C06ACF5D6-8074
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794)       Labels:. 4E0-035-6xx-5F.clb
       Part No SW: 7P6 035 664 B    HW: 7P6 035 664 
       Component: H-BN-NA       H44 0319  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 445CV0C7530661
       Coding: 010200050040C1EF41020B0E00000003F0000101
       Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
       VCID: 372ADAF2AF44047F832-8062
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 8R0 060 884 AC
       Component: NAR 2011  0503 
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 7P6 919 603 C    HW: 7P6 919 603 C
       Component: DU8 SV Touch  H26 0045 
       Serial number: VWZ8Z9L79003SP      
    
       Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 7P6 919 603 C    HW: 7P6 919 603 C
       Component: DU8 SV Touch  H26 0045 
       Serial number: VWZ8Z9L79003SP      
    
       Subsystem 4 - Part No: 8R0 060 961 
       Component: CD-Database  1886 
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 62: Door, Rear Left (J388)       Labels: None
       Part No SW: 4H0 959 795 B    HW: 4H0 959 795 B
       Component: TSG HL        H09 0167  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 0000126317014 
       Coding: 011C17200000251005080000
       Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
       VCID: 3A2CC3C69C5619177CC-806E
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 6C: Back-up Cam.        Labels: 4L0-910-441.clb
       Part No SW: 7P6 907 441 F    HW: 4H0 907 441 B
       Component: SG Rueckfahrkamera  0120  
       Revision: 00H05000    Serial number: 525 PA8J220811
       Coding: 0020001
       Shop #: WSC 98765 666 38384
       VCID: 3C20C5DE9A6227276E0-8068
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 6D: Trunk Elect. (----)       Labels:| 7N0-959-107.clb
       Part No SW: 7P6 959 107 A    HW: 7P6 959 107 
       Component: HDSG-Modul    H10 0620  
       Revision: 22010001    Serial number: 083201008
       Coding: 0533314002
       Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
       ASAM Dataset: EV_HeckkTouar 202137
       ROD: EV_HeckkTouar.rod
       VCID: 3D26C8DA8DF82E2F59E-8068
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 72: Door, Rear Right (J389)       Labels: None
       Part No SW: 4H0 959 795 B    HW: 4H0 959 795 B
       Component: TSG HR        H09 0167  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 0000126318054 
       Coding: 011C17200000251005080000
       Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
       VCID: 3A2CC3C69C5619177CC-806E
    
    No fault code found.
    
    End----------(Elapsed Time: 02:17, VBatt start/end: 12.2V/12.2V)-----------
    Last edited by Uwe; 04-10-2018 at 11:37 AM. Reason: CODE tags

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    Thank you for your quick response and details.

    I have not yet adjusted the timing.

    If you mention that, it will be the next step to focus.

    The strange sound only appears once in a while you start the engine and not always.

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    Thank you Larry

    The condition of the oil is good.

    It was changed 1,500 miles ago.

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    The correct engine sound term is (rattling when starting).

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    Prepare for mechanical tear down and check adjuster for oil feed & or damage if noise evident!

    Also check that wiring and ECU is in proper order with no water ingress.
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    Thank you Jack

    It will be dismantled the engine as the noise when starting is evident and check adjuster for damage or oil feed problem.

    I have already checked the ECU wiring and is fine, the water drain holes are clean and tested.

    Keep on touch.

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