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    Quote Originally Posted by PetrolDave View Post
    I wonder if the Battery Management system is shutting down power because it hasn't been told about the new battery?
    I don't think this car has a real BMS that keeps history and can/should be told when the car gets a new battery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uwe View Post
    I don't think this car has a real BMS that keeps history and can/should be told when the car gets a new battery.
    What is being referred to by the term "Electric Load Controller"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PetrolDave View Post
    What is being referred to by the term "Electric Load Controller"?
    Module 09, the CECM / BCM.

    It probably has some rudimentary logic that monitors battery voltage and shuts off loads (like interior lights that are unintentionally left on) based on that.

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    Some interesting notes from last night. 1) Clearing codes using the "OBD-II Function" tab apparently was not clearing the codes, so I went through the modules individually and cleared codes. 2) I was not able to adapt the battery to the regulator - under "select module" then the "drivetrain" tab there are 3 options for battery but each one gives a pop-up stating "No response from Controller." Those 3 options I tried are 21-Engine III/Batt 2, 61 - Battery Regul., and 71 - battery charger. These must not be available on this car. However, clearing the codes did appear to narrow down my problems. My guess is that the ignition switch is the root cause of my problem, although I am concerned about the G28 sensor that keeps coming back (I've replaced this sensor). Take and look and tell me what you think, thanks!

    Code:
    Monday,16,April,2018,17:35:27:15384
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
    VCDS Version: 18.2.0.3 (x64)
    Data version: 20180212 DS287.0
    www.Ross-Tech.com
    
    
    VIN: 3VWJM71K28M056478   License Plate: 
    Mileage: 284730km-176923mi   Repair Order: 
    
    
    
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    Chassis Type: 1K (1K0)
    Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 42 44 46 52 56 62 65 72
    
    VIN: 3VWJM71K28M056478   Mileage: 284730km-176923miles
    
    01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
    04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
    15-Airbags -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    16-Steering wheel -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    17-Instruments -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
    42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    44-Steering Assist -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
    52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
    56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
    62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
    65-Tire Pressure -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
     
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    Address 01: Engine        Labels: None
       Part No SW: 07K 906 032 UM    HW: 07K 906 032 Q
       Component: United.342      G   19  
       Revision: --H01---    Serial number: VWX7Z0G824R0JF
       Coding: 0000001
       Shop #: WSC 00001 000 00000
       VCID: 0831555D7B0F230450-805C
    
    2 Faults Found:
    005699 - Please check DTC Memory of Electric Load Controller 
                   P1643 - 001 - 
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01100001
                        Fault Priority: 0
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 255
                        Mileage: 284739 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2000.00.00
                        Time: 00:10:45
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        RPM: 0 /min
                        Load: 0.0 %
                        Speed: 0.0 km/h
                        Temperature: 3.0°C
                        Temperature: 3.0°C
                        Absolute Pres.: 960.0 mbar
                        Voltage: 12.192 V
    
    000802 - Engine Speed Sensor (G28) 
                   P0322 - 004 - No Signal
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01100100
                        Fault Priority: 0
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 255
                        Mileage: 284739 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2000.00.00
                        Time: 00:22:25
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        RPM: 0 /min
                        Load: 0.0 %
                        Speed: 0.0 km/h
                        Temperature: 3.0°C
                        Temperature: 3.0°C
                        Absolute Pres.: 960.0 mbar
                        Voltage: 10.795 V
    
    Readiness: 0000 0000
    
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    Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK70.lbl
       Part No: 1K0 907 379 P
       Component: ASR FRONT MK70      0105  
       Coding: 0017025
       Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
       VCID: 3FA38E816E41A4BC21-806A
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 1K0-820-047.lbl
       Part No SW: 1K0 820 047 GF    HW: 1K0 820 047 GF
       Component: Climatic PQ35   141 0909  
       Revision: 00141027    Serial number: 00000000000000
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 6EFD03C579AB1D34FA-803A
    
    1 Fault Found:
    01317 - Control Module in Instrument Cluster (J285) 
                013 - Check DTC Memory
    
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    Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels:. 3C0-937-049-30-M.lbl
       Part No SW: 3C0 937 049 AH    HW: 3C0 937 049 AH
       Component: Bordnetz-SG     H54 2202  
       Revision: 00H54000    Serial number: 00000000750036
       Coding: 04050E234004150007140000001400000008730B5C000100000000000000
       Shop #: WSC 00066 123 12345
       VCID: 6FC31EC17EA1143CF1-803A
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K1 955 119 E  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
       Component: Wischer 260907 020  0501  
       Coding: 00038805
       Shop #: WSC 00066  
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 1K0-909-605.lbl
       Part No SW: 1K0 909 605 AB    HW: 1K0 909 605 AB
       Component: 6A AIRBAG VW8R  034 8000  
       Revision: 05034000    Serial number: 003B6M0330NS  
       Coding: 0013889
       Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
       VCID: 6CF909CD4FB7EF24D4-8038
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K0 959 339 F
       Component: BF-Gewichtsens. 007 0005
    
       Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6332MSME147F3A06H
    
       Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6342MSME1B3F1472G
    
       Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6351HSME0F7B400AE
    
       Subsystem 5 - Serial number: 6361HSME0F7A035BJ
    
       Subsystem 6 - Serial number: 63727SME0F11146D1
    
       Subsystem 7 - Serial number: 63827SME0E11457C5
    
    2 Faults Found:
    00591 - Seat Belt Switch; Driver (E24) 
                010 - Open or Short to Plus - MIL ON
    01217 - Side Airbag Igniter; Driver Side (N199) 
                001 - Upper Limit Exceeded - MIL ON
    
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    Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
       Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 AP    HW: 1K0 953 549 AP
       Component: Lenksäulenmodul 036 0070  
       Coding: 0010021
       Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
       VCID: 00214D7D533F1B4418-8054
    
    3 Faults Found:
    00883 - Ignition Switch (D) Terminal S 
                012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
    00002 - Transmission Control Unit 
                004 - No Signal/Communication
    02413 - Switch for Selector Lever Position P Lock (F319) 
                008 - Implausible Signal
    
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    Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-17.lbl
       Part No SW: 1K0 920 954 F    HW: 1K0 920 954 F
       Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT 3HL 1212  
       Revision: V0002000    Serial number: VWX7Z0G824R0JF
       Coding: 0021203
       Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
       VCID: 2F43DEC1BE21543CB1-807A
    
    1 Fault Found:
    00779 - Outside Air Temp Sensor (G17) 
                010 - Open or Short to Plus
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01101010
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 103
                        Mileage: 284739 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2000.00.00
                        Time: 00:17:40
    
    
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    Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels:. 1K0-907-530-V3.clb
       Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 L    HW: 1K0 907 951 
       Component: J533  Gateway   H07 0052  
       Revision:   H07 01    Serial number: 290707F1000176
       Coding: E9807F070002021002
       Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
       VCID: 3041DDBDA31F4BC4A8-8064
    
    1 Fault Found:
    01305 - Databus for Infotainment 
                004 - No Signal/Communication
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01100100
                        Fault Priority: 1
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 103
                        Mileage: 284739 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2000.00.00
                        Time: 00:09:15
    
    
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    Address 25: Immobilizer        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
       Part No SW: 1K0 920 954 F    HW: 1K0 920 954 F
       Component: IMMO            3HL 1212  
       Revision: V0002000    Serial number: VWX7Z0G824R0JF
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 2F43DEC1BE21543CB1-807A
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels:. 1K0-959-701-MIN3.clb
       Part No SW: 1K0 959 701 P    HW: 1K0 959 793 L
       Component: J386  TUER-SG FT    1133  
       Revision: 32008001    Serial number: 00000606478827
       Coding: 0001205
       Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
       VCID: 3B5BFA917A59B89C0D-806E
    
    1 Fault Found:
    00932 - Electric Window Motor; Drivers Side (V147) 
                005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01100101
                        Fault Priority: 3
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 103
                        Mileage: 284739 km
                        Time Indication: 0
    
    
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    Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1Kx-909-144-G2V3.clb
       Part No: 1K1 909 144 M
       Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.070 H08 1901  
       Shop #: WSC 02069 000 90108
       VCID: 354FECA95C7D6EECFB-8060
    
    1 Fault Found:
    00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85) 
                000 -  - 
    
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    Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels:. 1K0-959-433-MAX.clb
       Part No SW: 1K0 959 433 CT    HW: 1K0 959 433 CT
       Component:    KSG PQ35 RDK 052 0221  
       Revision: 00052000    Serial number: 00000000000000
       Coding: 1B900F880186083F3F04058FB0880F0488DCA0
       Shop #: WSC 00066 123 12345
       VCID: 0429416D472707643C-8050
    
       Subsystem 1 - Component:   Sounder n.mounted     
    
       Subsystem 2 - Component:       NGS n.mounted     
    
       Subsystem 3 - Component:      IRUE n.mounted     
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels:. 1K0-959-702-MIN3.clb
       Part No SW: 1K0 959 702 P    HW: 1K0 959 792 L
       Component: J387  TUER-SG BT    1133  
       Revision: 32008001    Serial number: 00000561678827
       Coding: 0001204
       Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
       VCID: 3C59F98D7F57BFA404-8068
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 56: Radio
    Cannot be reached
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 62: Door, Rear Left        Labels:. 1K0-959-703-GEN3.clb
       Part No SW: 1K0 959 703 Q    HW: 1K0 959 795 J
       Component: J388   TUER-SG HL   1120  
       Revision: 12006001    Serial number: 00000002155425
       Coding: 0001168
       Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
       VCID: 3E5DF385694BADB42A-806A
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 65: Tire Pressure        Labels: 3C0-959-433-65.lbl
       Part No SW: 1K0 959 433 CT    HW: 1K0 959 433 CT
       Component:    RDK              0450  
       Revision: 00052000    Serial number: 00000000000000
       Coding: 0100101
       Shop #: WSC 131071 1023 2097151
       VCID: 0429416D472707643C-8050
    
    1 Fault Found:
    00667 - Ambient Temperature Signal 
                008 - Implausible Signal
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01111000
                        Fault Priority: 4
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 103
                        Mileage: 284739 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2000.00.00
                        Time: 00:12:09
    
    
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    Address 72: Door, Rear Right        Labels:. 1K0-959-704-GEN3.clb
       Part No SW: 1K0 959 704 Q    HW: 1K0 959 794 J
       Component: J389   TUER-SG HR   1120  
       Revision: 12006001    Serial number: 00000002151119
       Coding: 0001168
       Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
       VCID: 3FA38E816E41A4BC21-806A
    
    No fault code found.
    
    End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 01:11)--------------------------

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    Does anyone have information on the G28 Crankshaft Position Sensor (CPS or CKS) for this car. 2008 Jetta S with the 82 or 84 pin ecu. Specifically I want to know which pins in the ECU the G28 wires terminate and the "ignition-on" voltage readings for the 2 (+) wires on the G28.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 25Tjetta View Post
    Does anyone have information on the G28 Crankshaft Position Sensor (CPS or CKS) for this car. 2008 Jetta S with the 82 or 84 pin ecu. Specifically I want to know which pins in the ECU the G28 wires terminate and the "ignition-on" voltage readings for the 2 (+) wires on the G28.
    Please see: Where do I get a Wiring Diagram?

    You may also find this helpful: How to read wiring diagrams - the videos.

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    Well folks, I am out of ideas.

    As stated, G28 Crankshaft position sensor is my only known error. I have continuity through all 3 wires from the g28 sensor to the ECU. I've tried multiple new (1 OEM, 1 from auto parts store, 1 out of the car that I took the 5 speed from) G28 sensors. I've tried to use the ECU out of the donor swap car.

    Any further advice for me at this point?

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