2009 A6 3.0T Camshaft Position Sensor issue

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This is my first repair with a VAG system, so please forgive my inexperience.

My 2009 A6 3.0T burned a valve, and I replaced it. To my surprise, after the repair, the camshaft position sensor was the only persistent error code. I'm not sure if the data shows if the camshaft is a few degrees out from the crankshaft, or if it is not sending data at all.

Please help. =)

Code:
Wednesday,25,October,2017,17:03:43:43269
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x64
VCDS Version: 17.8.0.1 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4401.4
Data version: 20170721 DS276.2
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: WAUWG74F39N021614   License Plate: 
Mileage: 222570km-138298mi   Repair Order: 



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Chassis Type: 4F-AU56 (4F0)
Scan: 01 02 03 05 07 08 09 0E 0F 15 16 17 19 1E 36 37 42 46 47 4C
          4F 52 53 55 56 62 67 6C 72 77

VIN: WAUWG74F39N021614   Mileage: 222570km-138298miles

01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
07-Control Head -- Status: Malfunction 0010
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
0E-Media Player 1 -- Status: OK 0000
0F-Digital Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
1E-Media Player 2 -- Status: OK 0000
36-Seat Mem. Drvr -- Status: OK 0000
37-Navigation -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
4C-Tire Pressure II -- Status: OK 0000
4F-Centr. Electr. II -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
53-Parking Brake -- Status: OK 0000
55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
67-Voice Control -- Status: OK 0000
6C-Back-up Cam. -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000
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Address 01: Engine (CCA)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 4F1 910 551 A    HW: 4F1 907 551 
   Component: 3.0l V6 TFSI        0030  
   Revision: --H02---    Serial number:               
   Coding: 0105000A190F0120
   Shop #: WSC 02325 785 00200
   VCID: 211F1B2C1DC37A5F744-8074

1 Fault Found:
000024 - Bank 2: CMP Sens 2 (G163) / Engine Speed Sensor (G28) 
               P0018 - 000 - Incorrect Correlation - MIL ON
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 11100001
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 3
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 222356 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2017.10.23
                    Time: 19:31:45

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 704 /min
                    Mass Air / Rev.: 92.7 mg/str
                    Temperature: 91.5°C
                        Idle
                    Bin. Bits: 00010000
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h

Readiness: 1010 0101

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Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 09L-927-760.lbl
   Part No SW: 4F1 910 156 K    HW: 09L 927 156 C
   Component: AG6 09L 3,0TFSI USA 0040  
   Revision: --H04---    Serial number:        4494272
   Coding: 0000002
   Shop #: WSC 02149 785 00200
   VCID: 2C01FA186A01A737D72-8078

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 4F0-910-517.lbl
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 517 AL    HW: 4F0 614 517 BA
   Component: ESP8 quattro    H01 0060  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 0020921
   Shop #: WSC 02149 785 00200
   VCID: 6E8530109C9D9527B96-803A

No fault code found.

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Address 05: Acc/Start Auth.        Labels:. 4F0-910-852.clb
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 852 B    HW: 4F0 905 852 E
   Component: FBSAUDIC6 ELV   H05 0100  
   Revision: 00H05000    Serial number: 10602501226287
   Coding: 0000007
   Shop #: WSC 02149 785 00200
   VCID: 25170F3C09EB967F08C-8070

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4F0 910 132 L
   Component: FBSAUDIC6 EZS   H03 0020

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 4F0 910 335 B
   Component: FBSAUDIC6 KSG   H03 0020

1 Fault Found:
00193 - Rear Right Door Handle Touch Sensor (G418) 
            011 - Open Circuit - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00111011
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 155
                    Mileage: 222404 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2017.10.24
                    Time: 05:01:30


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Address 07: Control Head        Labels: 4F0-910-7xx-07-H.clb
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 732 R    HW: 4E0 035 729 A
   Component: Interfacebox    H43 4610  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 361JS087525315
   Coding: 0000003
   Shop #: WSC 02335 785 00200
   VCID: 323DE4604825F1C79DE-8066

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4F0 910 609 E
   Component: Bedienteil MMIC6H01 0060

   Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 00000001210370

   Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 0124.10.080000000100011079ÿ

   Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 011079ÿ

1 Fault Found:
02244 - Button in Control Head is Stuck 
            000 -  -  - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100000
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 150
                    Mileage: 222238 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2017.09.22
                    Time: 16:51:29

             Freeze Frame:
                    Bin. Bits: 00000000
                    Bin. Bits:  0010000
                    Bin. Bits:      000


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Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 4F0-910-043.clb
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 043 A    HW: 4F1 820 043 AG
   Component: KLIMABETAETIGUNGH30 0020  
   Revision: 00000054    Serial number: 00000030403301
   Coding: 0524326
   Shop #: WSC 02149 785 00200
   VCID: 1C612AD83AA157B7A72-8048

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels: 4F0-910-279.lbl
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 279 M    HW: 4F0 907 279 A
   Component: ILM Fahrer      H22 0320  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 4F0907279     
   Coding: 0133123
   Shop #: WSC 02335 785 00200
   VCID: 3333E164B73FF8CF968-8066

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4F1 910 113 D  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer AudiC6  H10 0040  
   Coding: 00056595
   Shop #: WSC 02335  

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 8K0 910 557   Labels: 8K0-955-559.CLB
   Component: REGENLICHTSENSORH04 0003  
   Coding: 00146221
   Shop #: WSC 02335  

1 Fault Found:
01496 - Bulb for Fog-Lamps; Left (L22) 
            010 - Open or Short to Plus - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00111010
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 150
                    Mileage: 222220 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2017.09.22
                    Time: 14:50:00


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Address 0E: Media Player 1 (R199)       Labels:. 4E0-035-785.lbl
   Part No SW: 4E0 035 785 F    HW: 4E0 035 785 C
   Component: SG ext.Player H15 0850  
   Revision: 00000000    
   Coding: 010000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 2B03F904630FA00FDE8-807E

No fault code found.

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Address 0F: Digital Radio        Labels: 4E0-910-593-SIR.lbl
   Part No SW: 4E0 910 593 M    HW: 4E0 035 593 F
   Component: SDAR SIRIUS     H07 0160  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: AUZ4Z7H0448184
   Coding: 0000100
   Shop #: WSC 02323 785 00200
   VCID: 313FEB6C4D23CADFE44-8064

1 Fault Found:
02635 - Tuner Not Enabled/Activated 
            000 -  - 
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 7
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 110
                    Mileage: 222221 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2017.09.22
                    Time: 14:47:33


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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 4F0-910-655-10.clb
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 655 M    HW: 4F0 959 655 F
   Component: Airbag AU1042 H06 0090  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 003000000000
   Coding: 303142373034303030314A55304C34463053
   Shop #: WSC 02323 785 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Airba10AURB4 001001
   ROD: EV_Airba10AURB4.rod
   VCID: 313FEB6C41A3CADFE44-8064

   Seat occupied recognition: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 4F0 910 339 B    HW: 4F0 959 339 B
   Component: BF-Gewichtss.  H03  0060 
   Serial number: 5810000R0000002U2R
   Coding: 000000

   Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side: 
   Serial number: 3574SRB400007EA4B1FM

   Crash sensor for side airbag: front passenger side: 
   Serial number: 3584SRB400007EA469FQ

   Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: driver side: 
   Serial number: 35152RB401P804A78RK$

   Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: passenger side: 
   Serial number: 35252RB402F804A7635X

   Crash sensor for front airbag: driver side: 
   Serial number: 3554NRB4000047673C80

   Crash sensor for front airbag: front passenger side: 
   Serial number: 3564NRB4000047AA6A78

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 4F0-910-549.lbl
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 549 A    HW: 4F0 953 549 D
   Component: J0527               0410  
   Revision: 00H03000    Serial number: 90055082880108
   Coding: 0012141
   Shop #: WSC 02149 785 00200
   VCID: 270B053473E7846F3A0-8072

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX 
   Component: E0221           H02 0030

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:. 4F0-920-xxx-17.clb
   Part No SW: 4F0 920 983 C    HW: 4F0 920 983 C
   Component: KOMBIINSTR.   H06 0133  
   Revision: 00200000    Serial number: 9G2067TA8     
   Coding: 8B960A050B00CF05020201
   Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
   VCID: 2C01FA186601A737D72-8078

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 4F0-907-468.clb
   Part No SW: 4F0 907 468 F    HW: 4F0 907 468 F
   Component: GW-BEM 4CAN-M H06 0024  
   Revision: 4LA70021    Serial number: 2100L08A26007C
   Coding: 000303
   Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
   VCID: 323DE4604425F1C79DE-8066

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8K0 915 181 C    HW: 8K0 915 181 C
   Component: J367-BDM  H07 0100 
   Serial number: 00000000002730370736

No fault code found.

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Address 1E: Media Player 2        Labels: 4E0-910-111.lbl
   Part No SW: 4E0 910 110 E    HW: 4E0 035 110 A
   Component: MP3-Changer     H47 0390  
   Revision: 00047003    Serial number: AUZ5ZBH8655697
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 1A6D2CC030952987B5E-804E

No fault code found.

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Address 36: Seat Mem. Drvr (J136)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 4F0 959 760 C    HW: 4F0 959 760 C
   Component: MEM-FS        H08 0062  
   Revision: AA000000    Serial number: 00001001171762
   Coding: 00581B00004011110000
   Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
   VCID: 313FEB6C4123CADFE44-8064

No fault code found.

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Address 37: Navigation        Labels: 4E0-910-88x-37.lbl
   Part No SW: 4E0 910 888 M    HW: 4E0 919 887 M
   Component: MNS US          H52 1100  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 395J.087530366
   Shop #: WSC 22133 444 59264
   VCID: 3829D648AE591B97A3A-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels:. 4F0-959-793.clb
   Part No SW: 4F0 959 793 R    HW: 8K0 959 793 D
   Component: TSG FA        H11 0250  
   Revision:             Serial number: 0000100411299 
   Coding: 011F57204E40410001
   Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
   VCID: 46D5A8B0D8AD7D67216-8012

No fault code found.

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Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels:. 4F0-910-289.lbl
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 289 N    HW: 4F0 907 289 N
   Component: Komfortgeraet   H28 0240  
   Revision: 02400028    Serial number: 01156511480000
   Coding: 4618269
   Shop #: WSC 02335 785 00200
   VCID: 3537DF7CB94BE6FFB8C-8060

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
   Component: LIN BACKUP HORN H03 1301

2 Faults Found:
02743 - Bulb for Brake/Turn Signal Light; Right 
            009 - Open or Short to Ground - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101001
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 3
                    Reset counter: 150
                    Mileage: 176772 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2016.01.05
                    Time: 12:16:57

02742 - Bulb for Brake/Turn Signal Light; Left 
            009 - Open or Short to Ground - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101001
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 19
                    Reset counter: 150
                    Mileage: 176772 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2016.01.05
                    Time: 12:17:00


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Address 47: Sound System        Labels: 4F0-910-223-BO.lbl
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 223 J    HW: 4F0 035 223 G
   Component: DSP-High C6     H10 0240  
   Revision: PROD_01     Serial number: 00000000122662
   Coding: 0000026
   Shop #: WSC 02149 785 00200
   VCID: 25170F3C09EB967F08C-8070

No fault code found.

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Address 4C: Tire Pressure II        Labels: 4F0-910-274.clb
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 274 A    HW: 4F0 907 274 
   Component: J793  RKA+      H02 0100  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 00008390037870
   Coding: 0623301
   Shop #: WSC 00477 128 36039
   VCID: 221D142018C561476DE-8076

No fault code found.

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Address 4F: Centr. Electr. II        Labels: 4F0-910-280.lbl
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 280     HW: 4F0 907 280 C
   Component: ILM Beifahrer   H12 0100  
   Revision:             Serial number: 00000000252005
   Coding: 0002014
   Shop #: WSC 02149 785 00200
   VCID: 5EE560D06C3D05A7096-800A

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels:. 4F0-959-792.clb
   Part No SW: 4F0 959 792 R    HW: 8K0 959 792 D
   Component: TSG BF        H11 0250  
   Revision:             Serial number: 0000100423086 
   Coding: 011F57204E40410001
   Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
   VCID: 45D7AFBCE5AB767F28C-8010

No fault code found.

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Address 53: Parking Brake        Labels: 4F0-910-801.clb
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 801 D    HW: 4F0 907 801 B
   Component: EPB  CEFC0090   H05 0090  
   Revision: --H05---    
   Coding: 0000222
   Shop #: WSC 02145 785 00200
   VCID: 211F1B2C1DC37A5F744-8074

No fault code found.

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Address 55: Headlight Range        Labels: 4F0-910-357.lbl
   Part No SW: 4L0 910 357     HW: 4L0 907 357 
   Component: AFS 1           H01 0040  
   Revision: 00000001    Serial number:               
   Coding: 0000026
   Shop #: WSC 02325 785 00200
   VCID: 698F430CA573721FEC4-803C

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4F0 941 329 D
   Component: AFS-Modul links H01 0010

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 4F0 941 329 D
   Component: AFS-Modul rechtsH01 0010

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio        Labels: 4E0-910-541.lbl
   Part No SW: 4E0 910 541 T    HW: 4F0 035 541 N
   Component: TUNER EU/US/RDW H42 0630  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 379J3087546618
   Coding: 0000002
   Shop #: WSC 02149 785 00200
   VCID: 313FEB6C4D23CADFE44-8064

No fault code found.

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Address 62: Door, Rear Left (J388)       Labels:. 4F0-959-795.clb
   Part No SW: 4F0 959 795 M    HW: 8K0 959 795 B
   Component: TSG HL        H10 0251  
   Revision:             Serial number: 0000100416316 
   Coding: 010E57204040220001
   Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
   VCID: 43D3B1A4EB9F484F068-8016

No fault code found.

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Address 67: Voice Control        Labels: 4E0-910-75x-67.lbl
   Part No SW: 4E0 910 754 Q    HW: 4E0 035 753 A
   Component: SDS 3501 US     H46 0630  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 00000810240210
   Shop #: WSC 12336 024 394758
   VCID: 3431E278B231FFF78F2-8060

No fault code found.

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Address 6C: Back-up Cam.        Labels: 4L0-910-441.clb
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 441 D    HW: 4L0 907 441 B
   Component: J772__Rearview      0030  
   Revision: --H03---    Serial number: 525PA8-J8X20UC
   Coding: 1000304
   Shop #: WSC 02145 785 00200
   VCID: 211F1B2C1DC37A5F744-8074

No fault code found.

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Address 72: Door, Rear Right (J389)       Labels:. 4F0-959-795.clb
   Part No SW: 4F0 959 795 M    HW: 8K0 959 795 B
   Component: TSG HR        H10 0251  
   Revision:             Serial number: 0000100421376 
   Coding: 010E57204040220001
   Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
   VCID: 43D3B1A4EB9F484F068-8016

No fault code found.

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Address 77: Telephone        Labels: 4E0-910-336.lbl
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 336 H    HW: 4E0 862 335 
   Component: Handyvorb2      H20 1130  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 00000005067952
   Coding: 0010900
   Shop #: WSC 02335 785 00200
   VCID: 280906087EF98B1733A-807C

No fault code found.

End----------(Elapsed Time: 01:58, VBatt start/end: 14.0V/14.0V)-----------

Thank you,
Eric C
Los Altos, CA
 
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Hello and welcome to the VCDS forum.

Thank you for posting an auto-scan.

1 Fault Found:
000024 - Bank 2: CMP Sens 2 (G163) / Engine Speed Sensor (G28)
P0018 - 000 - Incorrect Correlation - MIL ON

Clear codes and see if reoccurs, if so commence, if not start readiness tests.

Timing is set incorrect or chain stretched please redo/check your work over & as per the RTFB.
http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/Official_Factory_Repair_Information

Please see JPPSG for good rules to abide by when working.

http://forums.ross-tech.com/showthr...essional-Problem-Solver-Guide-quot-JPPSG-quot
 
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Thank you Jack.

I cleared the code and it returned immediately. I re-tensioned the camshaft timing, according to the Bentley Manual, then cleared the code, and it returned again.
 
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Yeah probably off a link...........very common mistake!
 
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The car runs very well. Would that be possible if it were a link off?

P.S. Thank you for your guideline page. Would an OBD scan be helpful in this case?
 
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The car runs very well. Would that be possible if it were a link off?

Yes it can.......

P.S. Thank you for your guideline page. Would an OBD scan be helpful in this case?

Nope because if the code is a hard DTC, this means the G163 it is out of the window of threshold in comparison to G28.
Keep in mind, that the cam adjusters make a great deal of compensation using oil PSI.

Cam timing engine not running, is spring or base deviated & to most advanced position to aid in cold start.

Example : Say no oil PSI is present, you will see a typical over advanced DTC as a result.

In this case we are speaking of correlation from G28 to G40 (B1) and G163 (B2) & since two banks to compare to crank.

After car is immediately started, oil PSI retards timing manually and briefly after a temp or time is achieved, the adjusters are permitted to adjust cam timing by diversion of the oil PSI control & to bleed off oil PSI and allow for automatic advance.
When deviation target is achieved in ECU programming, the solenoid is changed for duty cycle or pulse to do it.

What this means is we now have an adaption taking place.
The ECU seeks a target of compensation to control loads & the end result is the engine running to what you perceive as okay.

Reality is it isn't okay and why the DTC is displayed.........

Now if the chain was off more than one link in either direction or when a compensation happens, it can or will what I call...... xylophone the valves being bent.

Does what I say make sense and help you understand this better?

Address 01: Engine (CCA) Labels: None
Part No SW: 4F1 910 551 A HW: 4F1 907 551
Component: 3.0l V6 TFSI 0030 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< I see many updates and should be 0080 or higher!

That all being said, your ECU seems to require several updates being way behind in firmware, please update it as per RTFB and see if it allows for a higher window of compensation & report back too me please before doing a tear down.
 
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