VW Phaeton level control problem

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Dear members,
I have a VW Phaeton 2005, the problem is that I cannot control the level of the car.
It stores only one fault code, after Wheel/Height recalibrating I can control until I restart the engine. After restarting the level control button not makes anything.
I attached the auto scan:
Code: 
Friday,23,February,2018,16:22:38:63139
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows XP x86
VCDS Version: 18.1.0.2
Data version: 20180122 DS285.1
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: WVWZZZ3DZ680026xx   License Plate: 


Chassis Type: 3D (3D - VW Phaeton (2002 > 2006))
Scan: 01 02 03 05 06 07 08 09 11 13 15 16 17 18 19 23 27 28 29 2E
          34 36 37 38 39 46 47 55 56 57 65 66 68 69 71 75 76 77
 
VIN: WVWZZZ3DZ68002695   Mileage: 234380km-145636miles
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Address 01: Engine        Labels: 059-907-401-ASB.clb
   Part No SW: 3D0 907 401     HW: 8E0 907 401 AB
   Component: 3.0L V6TDI  G000AG  0040  
   Revision: --H01---    Serial number: VWZ3Z0E1408029
   Coding: 0011773
   Shop #: WSC 80093 222 69422
   VCID: 5CBC50CB9CDD24A589-513C

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0 

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Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 09L-927-760.lbl
   Part No SW: 09L 927 760 J    HW: GS1 911 4
   Component: AG6 09L 3.0lTDI RdW 2205  
   Revision: 00000001    Serial number:        4094177
   Coding: 0000001
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 3E78FA436A8116B587-513C

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 3D0-614-517.lbl
   Part No: 3D0 614 517 AK
   Component: ESP 5.7 allrad  H33 0047  
   Coding: 0008356
   Shop #: WSC 01065 000 00000
   VCID: 6BDE03174973531D70-513C

No fault code found.

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Address 05: Acc/Start Auth.        Labels: 3D0-909-13x-05.lbl
   Part No SW: 3D0 909 135 S    HW: 5WK 470 21
   Component:    Kessy            6700  
   Revision: 67005614    Serial number: VWZ3Z0E1408029
   Coding: 0004328
   Shop #: WSC 01065 000 00000
   VCID: 356AE56F5FB7D5ED56-513C

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX 
   Component: ELV                 XXXX

No fault code found.

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Address 06: Seat Mem. Pass        Labels: 3D0-959-759.lbl
   Part No: 3D0 959 759 C
   Component: Sitzmemory D1 BF    1720  
   Coding: 0000003
   Shop #: WSC 01065 000 00000
   VCID: 3668E26342B1DEF55F-513C

No fault code found.

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Address 07: Control Head        Labels: 3D0-035-00x-07.lbl
   Part No: 3D0 035 007 P
   Component:    ZAB COCKPIT      0223  
   Coding: 0400525
   Shop #: WSC 01065 000 00000
   VCID: 264832239211AE75EF-513C

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 3D0-907-040.lbl
   Part No: 3D0 907 040 J
   Component: Climatronic D1      2031  
   Coding: 0000001
   Shop #: WSC 01065 000 00000
   VCID: 254A352FEF17A56DE6-513C

1 Fault Found:
01341 - Control Module in Instrument Panel On Comfort CAN (J285) 
            008 - Implausible Signal

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Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels: 3D0-937-049-V1.clb
   Part No: 3D0 937 049 H
   Component: STG.Bordnetz        5101  
   Coding: 0000003
   Shop #: WSC 01065 000 00000
   VCID: 2F66D707BDEBEF3D1C-513C

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 3D0-909-601.lbl
   Part No: 3D0 909 601 E
   Component: 0J Airbag 8.4E+ H10 0935  
   Coding: 0012362
   Shop #: WSC 01065 000 00000
   VCID: 254A352FEF17A56DE6-513C

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 3D0-953-549.lbl
   Part No: 3D0 953 549 D
   Component: Lenksäulenmodul     3401  
   Coding: 0000032
   Shop #: WSC 01065 000 00000
   VCID: 2E58CA03BAE1E63517-513C

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 3D0-920-xxx-17.lbl
   Part No: 3D0 920 882 N
   Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT RB8 0521  
   Coding: 0007111
   Shop #: WSC 01065 000 00000
   VCID: 3260DE73AED9C2D573-513C

No fault code found.

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Address 18: Aux. Heat        Labels: None
   Part No: 3D0 815 005 AA
   Component: Standheizung        2426  
   Shop #: WSC 01065 000 00000
   VCID: 5CBC50CB9CDD24A589-513C

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels: 6N0-909-901-19.lbl
   Part No: 6N0 909 901 
   Component: Gateway K<>CAN      0101  
   Coding: 0000006
   Shop #: WSC 01065 000 00000
   VCID: 70E4147B6055B0C545-513C

No fault code found.

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Address 29: Left Light        Labels: 3D0-909-157.lbl
   Part No: 3D0 909 157 
   Component: EVG GDL+AutoLWR(l)  0001  
   Coding: 0000001
   Shop #: WSC 01065 000 00000
   VCID: 66C8722352916E752F-515A

No fault code found.

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Address 34: Level Control        Labels: 3D0-907-553-V2.clb
   Part No: 3D0 907 553 C
   Component: LUFTFDR.-CDC- 3C3V0 1122  
   Coding: 0005521
   Shop #: WSC 54321 444 12345
   VCID: 27563F27951BB77DD4-513C

1 Fault Found:
01781 - Vehicle Extremely Un-Level 
            003 - Mechanical Failure - Intermittent

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Address 36: Seat Mem. Drvr        Labels: 3D0-959-760.lbl
   Part No: 3D0 959 760 C
   Component: Sitzmemory D1 F     1720  
   Coding: 0000004
   Shop #: WSC 01065 000 00000
   VCID: 2E58CA03BAE1E63517-513C

No fault code found.

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Address 37: Navigation        Labels: 3D0-919-887.lbl
   Part No: 3D0 919 887 E
   Component:    NAVIGATION       0168  
   Coding: 0400000
   Shop #: WSC 01065 000 00000
   VCID: 3668E26342B1DEF55F-513C

No fault code found.

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Address 38: Roof Electronics        Labels: 3D0-907-135.lbl
   Part No: 3D0 907 135 B
   Component: Dachmodul           0605  
   Coding: 0000011
   Shop #: WSC 01065 000 00000
   VCID: 22402E33FE39525583-513C

No fault code found.

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Address 39: Right Light        Labels: 3D0-909-158.lbl
   Part No: 3D0 909 158 
   Component: EVG GDL+AutoLWR(r)  0001  
   Coding: 0000001
   Shop #: WSC 01065 000 00000
   VCID: 67D67F27559B777D14-5120

No fault code found.

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Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels: 3D0-959-933.lbl
   Part No: 3D0 959 933 F
   Component:    HSG              0101  
   Coding: 0000034
   Shop #: WSC 01065 000 00000
   VCID: 336EDB7751C3CBDD78-4AE6

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 3D1 959 701 H
   Component: Tuersteuergeraet FS 0201

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 3D1 959 702 H
   Component: Tuersteuergeraet BF 0201

   Subsystem 3 - Part No: 3D0 959 703 G
   Component: Tuersteuergeraet HL 0201

   Subsystem 4 - Part No: 3D0 959 704 G
   Component: Tuersteuergeraet HR 0201

No fault code found.

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Address 47: Sound System        Labels: 7Lx-035-4xx-47.lbl
   Part No: 3D0 035 465 A
   Component: 08K-AUDIOVERST      0112  
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 1F4627C7CD4B7FBDAC-513C

No fault code found.

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Address 68: Wiper Electr.        Labels: 3Dx-955-1xx-V1.clb
   Part No: 3D1 955 119 A
   Component: Front Wiper         2005  
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 27563F27951BB77DD4-513C

No fault code found.

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Address 71: Battery Charger        Labels: 3D0-915-181.lbl
   Part No: 3D0 915 181 C
   Component: Batteriemanagement  2700  
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 234E2B37E1235B5D88-513C

3 Faults Found:
00084 - Electrical System Battery Switch-Over Relay (J549) 
            011 - Open Circuit
00086 - Parallel Battery Connection Relay (J581) 
            011 - Open Circuit
00668 - Supply Voltage Terminal 30 
            008 - Implausible Signal

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Address 76: Park Assist        Labels: None
   Part No: 3D0 919 283 D
   Component: 01 Einparkhilfe     0907  
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 2B5EC31789F3931D30-513C

No fault code found.

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Address 77: Telephone        Labels: None
   Part No: 3D0 035 704 D
   Component: Telefon             8110  
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 1E381AC3CA4176B5A7-513C

No fault code found.

End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 07:54)--------------------------
What can be the problem?
Thanks in advance!
 
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I'd start by looking at MVB 004 and 005.

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Thank you for the replies!
I made a screenshot from the 004 and 005 measuring blocks.
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looks like the right is about 5-6mm lower in comparison to the left hand side. any idea why this could be?
 
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Code: 
Address 34: Level Control        Labels: 3D0-907-553-V2.clb
   Part No: 3D0 907 553 C
   Component: LUFTFDR.-CDC- 3C3V0 1122  
   Coding: 0005521
   Shop #: WSC 54321 444 12345
   VCID: 27563F27951BB77DD4-513C

1 Fault Found:
01781 - Vehicle Extremely Un-Level 
            003 - Mechanical Failure - Intermittent

Well that's a new one.

alectrans said:
Dear members,
I have a VW Phaeton 2005, the problem is that I cannot control the level of the car.
It stores only one fault code, after Wheel/Height recalibrating I can control until I restart the engine. After restarting the level control button not makes anything.
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Can you explain more about the procedure you used to calibrate the car's ride height? Something has gone pretty badly wrong, somewhere, badly enough for the car to declare the results implausible without even moving (right after you start the engine). I want to make sure you're doing it the right way.

What is the history of this problem? What was originally broken, that caused you to recalibrate the ride height? Any crash damage or other parts replacements? Any aftermarket "lowering" kits that try to fool the level sensors? Or, if you have replaced level sensors, be aware it's easy to install those in a wrong orientation, and that can cause very strange symptoms.
 
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iichel: I not know what can cause the 5-6mm difference.
jyoung8607: The car was bought with this problem. I tried to calibrate as you can see here: http://www.ross-tech.com/vag-com/cars/levelcontrol.html
I not know of any crash on the vehicle, I will put the car into the garage and will verify if I see something unusual on the sensors.
 
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alectrans said:
jyoung8607: The car was bought with this problem. I tried to calibrate as you can see here: http://www.ross-tech.com/vag-com/cars/levelcontrol.html
I not know of any crash on the vehicle, I will put the car into the garage and will verify if I see something unusual on the sensors.
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That procedure should do the job. If the car starts out basically level, and you calibrated it at that level, and it then declares itself to be "extremely un-level" for no particular reason, something may be wrong with one of the sensors. There is a level sensor attached to a control arm at each of the four wheels.

Do this very simple test to verify each of your level sensors are working right:

  1. Start with the car on the ground, as level as you can get it.
  2. Enable 'jack mode' to stop the car from auto-leveling. This probably won't matter if the car has already disabled auto-leveling due to the fault, but let's make sure. Here's a video that shows which buttons to hit if you weren't already aware. This car has a newer instrument cluster than yours, and will show the result a little differently, but the same procedure works.
  3. Start up VCDS and start live monitoring address 34 MVBs 004 and 005, as you've already done above.
  4. Use a floor jack to slowly lift and lower one corner of the vehicle at a time, and watch MVB 004 and 005 live while that happens.
You should see the values for that corner change up and down as you lift and lower with the jack. Make sure that happens properly for all four corners, independently. Obviously if you lift very far you'll affect other corners too, and that's fine. You just want to see the MVB 004 and 005 measured height change along with the car's actual height at each corner. I suspect you may find a corner that gives stuck, false, or even inverted readings as actual height changes.
 
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So I fixed partially the car.
The first problem was that I cannot reached the 34th module when the ignition was on, only when the engine was started. The problem was caused by the fuse from the 2nd battery was pulled out because something drained the battery. That is why was fault codes in 71th module. The battery drain was caused by a faulty stationary heater heating element. I pulled out the plug from the heater element, now no battery drain.

The second thing that I found: When the values in MVB 004 are positive values(after calibrating/manually set the sensors to positive position), the system works very good, but the 01781 - Vehicle Extremely Un-Level 003 - Mechanical Failure - Intermittent fault code still exists.
The problem is when I turn off the engine, the air suspension go down, the MVB 004 has negative values, and when I press the level control button again nothing happens, system inactive again.
Do you know how many is the good value for the MVB 004 when the engine is 'shutted down'?
 
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