Advice on weaponry

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In that case, go for it. What's the downside?

The downside would be the cost of a lower receiver if they ban them and don't have grandfathering provisions. I look at it like stock market futures, in that a registered lower can be turned into a functional unit down the road...but isn't going to be risking confiscation of all the other missing parts if that's how the politicians are gonna roll.....
 
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http://www.house.gov/representatives/find/

http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm?OrderBy=state

Basically this:

"I do not want an assault weapons ban. I do not want the no-fly list being turned into a no-gun-buy list. I do not want extended background checks. I am opposed to gun control including CDC researching this issue in a biased way, and believe gun rights are a civil liberty. I'm voting this election and will be closely following the actions of the congressmen."

During lunch, I called my representative and spoke to a polite woman who took down my concerns and assured me that my messages would be passed along to the congresssman. She did ask for my full name and address but I live in a heavily gerrymandered district so I could see them wanting to ensure I'm truly his constituent (one zip code has 3 different representatives, somehow).

Next, I called Senator #1. Not only did a real human not pick up but when it steered me toward leaving a voicemail the machine said that mailbox is full. I had already emailed that Senator but wanted to call as well.

The I called Senator #2 and once again, got no human, and was told the mailbox was full. I hope these mailboxes are filled with NO voters.
 
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The mini-14 looks cool but is barely capable of hitting a dinner plate at 50 yards. I had an AR hating friend for years who owned one and attempted to get it to shoot well.

He eventually came hat in hand after shooting an AR belonging to a friend of his. I built him up a parts gun which he happily shot the crap out of until his untimely demise (not firearm related).
 
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The mini-14 looks cool but is barely capable of hitting a dinner plate at 50 yards. I had an AR hating friend for years who owned one and attempted to get it to shoot well.

I've already got one of those. If it wasn't for the staple gun, the paper would have no holes in it at all..... :)
 
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One point that I have not seen the graboids and libtards make is that the radical islamic extremist was stopped by a gun store a few weeks before the shooting for trying to buy body armor. The shop actually reported him after refusing the sale, if news outlets are to be believed.....
 
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Any info on loading a 12 gauge shot gun shell with salt?
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https://www.wired.com/2016/06/orlando-homemade-ar-15-industry-surges/

AFTER ORLANDO, THE HOMEMADE AR-15 INDUSTRY SURGES
By: ANDY GREENBERG SECURITY 06/22/16.

In the wake of the worst mass shooting in US history, many Americans want to ban civilians from buying the AR-15, that ultra-popular, all-American killing tool. But in basements and garages around the country, another group of Americans is collecting the machines and materials to make those firearms in the privacy of their own homes. And for them, just as much as for gun control advocates, Orlando represents a call to arms.

Senate Democrats reacted to the massacre by filibustering until Republicans agreed to allow a vote on four gun control measures. Every measure failed on Monday night. But even fears of such legislation have lead gun owners to stock up on guns and ammunition after every mass shooting in recent history. And now a newer trend has emerged in the days since Omar Mateen killed 49 people with a handgun and a Sig Sauer MCX rifle: sales are spiking for the equipment and materials used by DIY gunsmiths to make their own, fully-functional, semi-automatic weapons.

Using power tools, chunks of aluminum, and cheap, consumer-grade digital gadgets, those firearm-focused members of the maker movement fabricate homemade weapons like AR-15s and AR-10s that skirt all regulation and would be untraceable in some imagined, future crackdown in which the government were to seize registered weapons. “People are hopping off the mainstream train and accepting an underground dissident mentality when it comes to guns,” says Cody Wilson, the founder of the Austin, Texas-based DIY gun group Defense Distributed. “They’re making the connection: If [an AR-15 ban] is enacted, I can get this machine and make one anyway.”

Since the fall of 2014, Defense Distributed has sold approximately three thousand of the $1,500 devices it calls the Ghost Gunner, a computer-controlled, one-foot cubed milling machine designed to let anyone carve their own aluminum body of an AR-15 at home. Since all other parts of the gun can be bought without any regulation, the result is a lethal weapon that’s free from background checks, waiting periods, serial numbers, or any other government involvement.

On a typical day, Defense Distributed sells four or five of its gun-making machines, according to Wilson. But on the day after the Orlando gun massacre, it sold seven. The second day after the killings, as Democratic senators were filibustering, it sold 11. In all, Defense Distributed’s total revenue has jumped from around $30,000 a week to more than $50,000 last week, the most sales it’s seen since the hype around the Ghost Gunner’s initial launch 20 months ago.

Older methods of making an untraceable AR-15 are exploding, too. Santa Ana, California-based 80 Percent Arms, for instance, specializes in “80 percent lower receivers”: bodies of AR-15s and AR-10s that are left 20 percent unfinished and thus unregulated. DIY gunsmiths can complete that last bit of machining themselves, with tools ranging from a Ghost Gunner’s automated milling to a simple drill press and a set of jigs. The day of the Orlando shooting, 80 Percent Arms’ sales spiked fivefold, then sixfold on the day after and sevenfold the day after that, says the company’s president Tilden Smith. “When Obama gets on the air talking about gun control, that kicks off a buying frenzy. Everyone flips out,” Smith says. “They’re incentivized to get all the 80-percent stuff they can now, because they don’t think they’ll be able to get it next year.”

Contrary to what these DIY AR-15 builders seem to believe, however, none of the federal bills that gained momentum after Orlando would actually ban AR-15s, although some would limit semi-automatic weapon features. Nor did they seek to seize weapons based on the serial numbers and registration. And after the bills failed on Monday evening, it’s likely that no national gun control legislation will result from the tragedy at all.

But Ladd Everitt, the communications director for the gun control group the Coalition to Stop Gun Violence, says that gun enthusiasts are nonetheless responding to a real change in political tone. He calls the spike in DIY gun sales “anarchist bullshit” and a “tantrum” in the face of impending, necessary laws. “I don’t see what this is going to accomplish, but it’s a rebellion,” he says. “It’s just a political statement at a time when gun regulation is at the door.”

Popular support for gun control is ratcheting up: 55 percent of Americans want new gun control laws according to a poll taken last week by CNN and the Opinion Research Council, compared with 46 percent last year. And 85 percent of respondents said they want background checks to be expanded to determine whether a gun buyer is on a federal terrorist watchlist or no-fly list—exactly the sort of screening that’s circumvented by making a semi-automatic weapon at home.

But the real appeal for DIY gunsmiths is the potential to own an entirely unregistered weapon, says Gene Hoffman, founder of the Roseville, California-based gun activist group the Calguns Foundation. “Registration is kind of dangerous. The real reason most gun rights organizations oppose background checks isn’t about background checks,” says Hoffman, who’s himself used 80-percent lowers to build his AR-10s without serial numbers. “If things go to hell, no one can prove I own it. I don’t want it to be confiscated.”

He points to a proposed state-level gun law in California as a driving force behind these increased sales, which does seek to outlaw some forms of DIY gun-making. A bill introduced by State Senator Kevin Deleon in January would expand the definition of “firearm” under California law to include a “frame or receiver blank, casting, or machined body, that is designed and clearly identifiable as a component of a functional weapon.” That would effectively end the sale of 80-percent lower receivers in the state, Hoffman says, if it passed and were signed into law. A big “if.”

Wilson’s customers have also taken note of the bill. “When can we expect the AR-10 code to be released??” asks one Defense Distributed customer in an email to the group seeking the digital blueprint for making that larger, higher-caliber sibling of the AR-15. “Here in California, they’re trying to ban homemade guns, so time is of the essence!!!”

But outside of California, Wilson admits that the drive to buy gun-making materials and tools is being driven partially by “animal spirits”—paranoia in reaction to gun control talk. “There’s a real sense of being harried and alienated and under duress, and that’s driving interest,” he says. Like Hoffman, Wilson sees the civilian ownership of military weapons as a measure to keep the government itself in check. “When the system breaks down, you get to vote from the rooftops. We have the second amendment for when it’s time to murder our government,” he says matter-of-factly. “It’s one of the last best traditions of the western enlightenment.”
 
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That seems like a decent price for a block of 6061 aluminum.....
 
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https://www.yahoo.com/news/why-german-troops-dont-trust-165324784.html

Why German Troops Don't Trust Their Weapons

Kyle Mizokami
June 21, 2016
From Popular Mechanics

A survey of German soldiers has found that an overwhelming majority have doubts about the reliability of their weapons. More than half rated their weapons as unreliable, with less than ten percent expressing confidence in their army-issued G36 rifles. The news comes as the German military prepares to deploy troops to the Baltics to counter an aggressive Russia.

The poll, conducted by the Bundeswehr (German Army) research center and reported by the German Bild newspaper, was carried out during the Trident Junction 2015 wargames. Forty-three percent of respondents said that their weapons were "rather not reliable" or "not reliable at all." Twenty-eight percent said they could "partly" trust their weapons. Only eight percent said they could fully trust their weapons. By contrast, 80 percent of U.S. Army troops reported they were confident in the reliability of their issue weapon, the M-4 carbine, when they were asked in 2006.

The Bundeswehr has known of reliability problems with its G36 assault rifle since at least 2012. German troops returning from Afghanistan have complained the rifles lose accuracy after sustained firing in hot environments. An investigation by the German Defense Ministry revealed that the polymer channel in which the barrel sits heats up and softens with sustained firing, losing its shape and throwing the barrel out of alignment. The rifle's manufacturer, Heckler and Koch, claims the rifles are fine, and supporters say the rifles are being fired more often than was originally planned. Regardless, the Defense Ministry plans to start replacing the G36 in 2019 with 167,000 rifles of a different design.

A more surprising revelation revealed by the poll was that German troops also did not trust their heavy weapons systems. Thirty-six percent of soldiers claimed their heavy machine guns, anti-tank missiles, and other crew-served weapons were not reliable at all, with another 30 percent saying the weapons were only partly unreliable.

One of the weapons in question was likely the MG3 machine gun. Although is has been an excellent weapon, the German Army's MG3 inventory should have been retired long ago and is only now being replaced with the MG4. The German Army is also operating the MILAN anti-tank missile past its prime, a missile being replaced with the Israeli SPIKE.

The German military, long underfunded, has been suffering a very public readiness crisis. Germany spends just 1.2 percent of GDP on defense, far short of the 2 percent NATO nations are expected to spend. In 2014, German mechanized infantrymen participating in an exercise in Norway didn't have enough MG3 machine guns and were forced to simulate them with broomsticks. Last year, less than half of the German Air Force's Typhoon fighters and none of the navy's Sea Lynx helicopters were airworthy.

Last week, news outlets reported that German Army will man one of four mechanized battalions in the Baltics as a way to prop up NATO's eastern frontier against an aggressive Russia. Let's hope they figure out some better weapons, and fast.

Via Bild.
 
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I found the info on youtube
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Sorry, we don't reload shotgun here; would help if I could. Don't personally own one, and I rarely see Andy firing his!
 
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Mil-spec for a lower is 7075, not 6061! :D

Might want to tell that to the 80% folks...although maybe that's the missing 20%????? :D

http://www.80percentarms.com/collections/lower-receivers/products/80-lower-receiver-type-iii-hard-anodized-billet-ar-15

We manufacture billet lowers using US sourced aerospace grade 6061 aluminum which is more resistant to corrosion and is much easier to mill than any other alloy used to make lower receivers. Our lowers carry a lifetime warranty.
 
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