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    Question Transporter T5.1 MFSW Retrofit (no illumination)

    Over the weekend I have retrofitted MFSW to my 2011 T5.1.
    My T5 did not originally have MFSW installed.

    The new steering wheel is the newer style one used in the new golf, polo, T6, but not MQB version etc.
    My steering wheel is from a 2015 scirocco, has the 1K8 buttons (no cruise control).

    I have BCM 7H0 937 087 H which is compatible with cruise control and MFSW.

    At the T41 connector to the indicator / cruise / wiper stalks, I connected the following wires:
    Pin 9: 12v ( from pin 28, switched 12v supply for cruise control)
    Pin 19: LIN bus (to pin 17 BCM)

    Coded in VCDS (Centr. Elect > MFSW Installed)
    I have confirmed 12v at pin 9.

    All buttons work to control head unit (station, volume etc) and MFD.

    However, the buttons do not illuminate.

    Could it be that the airbag loom, which has a 5 pin connector into the MFSW buttons, is incorrect?
    My MFSW loom has a 5 pin connector with only pins 1,2,3 & 5 used.

    I have used erwin to view the T5 wiring diagrams and can see the original MFSW would have a 6 pin connector to the buttons, with only 5 pins used:
    J453 - Multifunction steering wheel control unit
    6 Pin Connector (2011 T5 Transporter)

    Code:
    1 - 12v
    2 - GND
    3 - LIN
    4 - Horn Plate
    5 - Horn Plate?
    6 - not used
    And I *think* the 1K8 scirocco has a 5 pin connector, with all pins used.

    Or im fearing these buttons illumination are controlled by the BCM?

    Here is my autoscan:
    Code:
    Monday,05,February,2018,18:42:12:39540
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows XP x86
    VCDS Version: 18.1.0.2
    Data version: 20180122 DS285.1
    www.Ross-Tech.com
    
    
    VIN: WV2ZZZ7HZCH029914   License Plate: 
    Mileage: 246970km-153460mi   Repair Order: 
    
    
    
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    
    Chassis Type: 7H-VN75 (6N0)
    Scan: 01 02 03 04 08 09 15 17 18 19 25 56 69 0B
    
    VIN: WV2ZZZ7HZCH029914   Mileage: 246970km-153460miles
    
    01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
    02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
    04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    18-Aux. Heat -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
    25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
    56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
    69-Trailer -- Status: OK 0000
     
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine (J623-CCHA)       Labels:. 03L-906-022-CAA.clb
       Part No SW: 03L 906 019 DH    HW: 03L 907 309 K
       Component: R4 2,0L EDC   H43 9133  
       Revision: 26H43---    Serial number: 00000000000000
       Coding: 0125401A233400080000
       Shop #: WSC 02756 790 50316
       ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM20TDI01103L906019DH 002008
       ROD: EV_ECM20TDI01103L906019DG.rod
       VCID: 74EDC508DF215BE5A1-8020
    
    No fault code found.
    Readiness: 0 0 0 0 1 
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 02: Auto Trans (J743)       Labels:. 0BH-927-711.clb
       Part No SW: 0BT 300 045 M    HW: 0BH 927 711 C
       Component: DSG DQ500-7F  H05 1712  
       Revision: 00H05V01    
       Coding: 0014
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       ASAM Dataset: EV_TCMDQ500021 001001
       ROD: EV_TCMDQ500021_VW36.rod
       VCID: 3F875A24A6E7C8BD8C-806A
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes (-----)       Labels:. 7E0-907-37x-MK25AXT.clb
       Part No SW: 7E0 907 379 H    HW: 7E0 907 379 E
       Component: ESP MK25A XT  H43 0107  
       Revision: 00H43001    
       Coding: 208724AD09A6049E24AB9072AA6210
       Shop #: WSC 02756 790 49152
       VCID: 3777320486D7F0FD44-8062
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 08: Auto HVAC (J301)       Labels:| 7E5-907-047.clb
       Part No SW: 7E5 907 047 BA    HW: 7E5 907 047 BA
       Component: Climatic-T5   H19 0404  
       Revision: 00001008    
       Coding: 0000000002
       Shop #: WSC 02757 790 50316
       ASAM Dataset: EV_ClimaticT5 A01003
       ROD: EV_ClimaT5Basis.rod
       VCID: 6FE7CA64B607783D5C-803A
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 7H0-937-08x-09.clb
       Part No SW: 7H0 937 087 H    HW: 7H0 937 087 
       Component: BCM T5GP H+4  H47 0251  
       Revision: BO047001    Serial number: 0429 220110457
       Coding: B8B079BA0E61241392284E102C2B8DD40080410F60044000300000000000
       Shop #: WSC 02756 790 12345
       VCID: 3973343CB0C3E68DB2-806C
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 7E0 959 801 B    HW: 7E0 959 801 B  Labels: 7E0-959-80X-V1.CLB
       Component: J386__TSG_FT  002 3311 
       Serial number: --------------------
       Coding: 010000
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 7E0 959 802 B    HW: 7E0 959 802 B  Labels: 7E0-959-80X-V1.CLB
       Component: J387__TSG_BT  002 3311 
       Serial number: --------------------
       Coding: 000000
    
       Subsystem 3 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
       Component: LIN BACKUP HO  H05 1501 
       Coding: 000000
    
       Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 1K8 959 442     HW: 1K8 959 442 
       Component: E221__MFL-DC1  H04 0103 
       Serial number: 29170001538600027307
       Coding: A40000
    
    2 Faults Found:
    03156 - Sensor for Anti-Theft System (G578) 
                004 - No Signal/Communication
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01100100
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 47
                        Mileage: 246979 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2012.06.27
                        Time: 00:21:31
    
    01044 - Control Module Incorrectly Coded 
                000 -  -  - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00100000
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 255
                        Mileage: 246979 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2012.06.27
                        Time: 00:21:27
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 5K0-959-655.clb
       Part No SW: 7E0 959 655 B    HW: 7E0 959 655 B
       Component: VW10Airbag009 H06 0013  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 003HL006ZWXI
       Coding: 000000000000000000000000000000003039
       Shop #: WSC 02754 790 50316
       ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVN750 A01026
       ROD: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVN750_VW12.rod
       VCID: 356B380C94DB02ED56-8060
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
       Part No SW: 7E0 920 970 E    HW: 7E0 920 970 E
       Component: KOMBI         H04 0305  
       Serial number: 00000000000000
       Coding: 460E00
       Shop #: WSC 00000 790 50316
       ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04113
       ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_004_VW32.rod
       VCID: 2C5D1D684791432539-8078
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 18: Aux. Heat        Labels: None
       Part No: 7E0 815 071 B
       Component: J737__Standheizung  0605  
       Revision: 00085000    Serial number: 09019275F00000
       Coding: 0000031
       Shop #: WSC 02757 790 00000
       VCID: 244DF548E7418B65F1-8070
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 6N0-909-901-6R.clb
       Part No SW: 6N0 909 901     HW: 7H0 937 087 
       Component: GW-K-CAN TP20 H47 0251  
       Revision: BO047001    
       Coding: 042300
       Shop #: WSC 02756 790 12345
       VCID: 70E5C918A33967C545-8024
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
       Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234 
       Component: IMMO          H04 0305  
       Serial number:               
       Coding: 000000
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03009
       ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09.rod
       VCID: 6AD1DB708DE59D150B-803E
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 56: Radio (J503)       Labels:. 5M0-035-1xx-56.clb
       Part No SW: 7E0 035 156 B    HW: 7E0 035 156 B
       Component: Radio         H42 0105  
       Revision: R0000000    Serial number: VWZAZ1L2264317
       Coding: 0000020002
       Shop #: WSC 02754 790 00000
       VCID: 2241F3503D55855583-8076
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 69: Trailer (J345)       Labels:. 1K0-907-383-V2.clb
       Part No SW: 1K0 907 383 G    HW: 1K0 907 383 G
       Component: Towbar module H10 0110  
       Revision: 3A001001    Serial number: 006789000000
       Coding: 010D000100000000
       Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
       VCID: 31630C1C68B32ECD0A-8064
    
    No fault code found.
    
    End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 03:12)--------------------------
    Monday,05,February,2018,18:52:49:39540
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows XP x86
    VCDS Version: 18.1.0.2
    Data version: 20180122 DS285.1
    www.Ross-Tech.com
    
    
    VIN: WV2ZZZ7HZCH029914   License Plate: 
    Mileage: 246970km-153460mi   Repair Order: 
    
    
    Chassis Type: 7H-VN75 (6N0)
    Scan: 01 02 03 04 08 09 15 17 18 19 25 56 69 0B
    
    VIN: WV2ZZZ7HZCH029914   Mileage: 246970km-153460miles
    
    01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
    02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
    04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    18-Aux. Heat -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
    25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
    56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
    69-Trailer -- Status: OK 0000
     
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine (J623-CCHA)       Labels:. 03L-906-022-CAA.clb
       Part No SW: 03L 906 019 DH    HW: 03L 907 309 K
       Component: R4 2,0L EDC   H43 9133  
       Revision: 26H43---    Serial number: 00000000000000
       Coding: 0125401A233400080000
       Shop #: WSC 02756 790 50316
       ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM20TDI01103L906019DH 002008
       ROD: EV_ECM20TDI01103L906019DG.rod
       VCID: 74EDC508DF215BE5A1-8020
    
    No fault code found.
    Readiness: 0 0 0 0 1 
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 02: Auto Trans (J743)       Labels:. 0BH-927-711.clb
       Part No SW: 0BT 300 045 M    HW: 0BH 927 711 C
       Component: DSG DQ500-7F  H05 1712  
       Revision: 00H05V01    
       Coding: 0014
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       ASAM Dataset: EV_TCMDQ500021 001001
       ROD: EV_TCMDQ500021_VW36.rod
       VCID: 3F875A24A6E7C8BD8C-806A
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes (-----)       Labels:. 7E0-907-37x-MK25AXT.clb
       Part No SW: 7E0 907 379 H    HW: 7E0 907 379 E
       Component: ESP MK25A XT  H43 0107  
       Revision: 00H43001    
       Coding: 208724AD09A6049E24AB9072AA6210
       Shop #: WSC 02756 790 49152
       VCID: 3777320486D7F0FD44-8062
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 08: Auto HVAC (J301)       Labels:| 7E5-907-047.clb
       Part No SW: 7E5 907 047 BA    HW: 7E5 907 047 BA
       Component: Climatic-T5   H19 0404  
       Revision: 00001008    
       Coding: 0000000002
       Shop #: WSC 02757 790 50316
       ASAM Dataset: EV_ClimaticT5 A01003
       ROD: EV_ClimaT5Basis.rod
       VCID: 6FE7CA64B607783D5C-803A
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 7H0-937-08x-09.clb
       Part No SW: 7H0 937 087 H    HW: 7H0 937 087 
       Component: BCM T5GP H+4  H47 0251  
       Revision: BO047001    Serial number: 0429 220110457
       Coding: B8B079BA0E61241392284E102C2B8CD40080410F60004000300000000000
       Shop #: WSC 02756 790 12345
       VCID: 3973343CB0C3E68DB2-806C
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 7E0 959 801 B    HW: 7E0 959 801 B  Labels: 7E0-959-80X-V1.CLB
       Component: J386__TSG_FT  002 3311 
       Serial number: --------------------
       Coding: 010000
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 7E0 959 802 B    HW: 7E0 959 802 B  Labels: 7E0-959-80X-V1.CLB
       Component: J387__TSG_BT  002 3311 
       Serial number: --------------------
       Coding: 000000
    
       Subsystem 3 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
       Component: LIN BACKUP HO  H05 1501 
       Coding: 000000
    
       Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 1K8 959 442     HW: 1K8 959 442 
       Component: E221__MFL-DC1  H04 0103 
       Serial number: 29170001538600027307
       Coding: A40000
    
    1 Fault Found:
    03156 - Sensor for Anti-Theft System (G578) 
                004 - No Signal/Communication
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01100100
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 47
                        Mileage: 246979 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2012.06.28
                        Time: 00:06:25
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 5K0-959-655.clb
       Part No SW: 7E0 959 655 B    HW: 7E0 959 655 B
       Component: VW10Airbag009 H06 0013  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 003HL006ZWXI
       Coding: 000000000000000000000000000000003039
       Shop #: WSC 02754 790 50316
       ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVN750 A01026
       ROD: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVN750_VW12.rod
       VCID: 356B380C94DB02ED56-8060
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
       Part No SW: 7E0 920 970 E    HW: 7E0 920 970 E
       Component: KOMBI         H04 0305  
       Serial number: 00000000000000
       Coding: 460E00
       Shop #: WSC 00000 790 50316
       ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04113
       ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_004_VW32.rod
       VCID: 2C5D1D684791432539-8078
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 18: Aux. Heat        Labels: None
       Part No: 7E0 815 071 B
       Component: J737__Standheizung  0605  
       Revision: 00085000    Serial number: 09019275F00000
       Coding: 0000031
       Shop #: WSC 02757 790 00000
       VCID: 244DF548E7418B65F1-8070
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 6N0-909-901-6R.clb
       Part No SW: 6N0 909 901     HW: 7H0 937 087 
       Component: GW-K-CAN TP20 H47 0251  
       Revision: BO047001    
       Coding: 042300
       Shop #: WSC 02756 790 12345
       VCID: 70E5C918A33967C545-8024
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
       Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234 
       Component: IMMO          H04 0305  
       Serial number:               
       Coding: 000000
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03009
       ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09.rod
       VCID: 6AD1DB708DE59D150B-803E
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 56: Radio (J503)       Labels:. 5M0-035-1xx-56.clb
       Part No SW: 7E0 035 156 B    HW: 7E0 035 156 B
       Component: Radio         H42 0105  
       Revision: R0000000    Serial number: VWZAZ1L2264317
       Coding: 0000020102
       Shop #: WSC 02754 790 00000
       VCID: 2241F3503D55855583-8076
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 69: Trailer (J345)       Labels:. 1K0-907-383-V2.clb
       Part No SW: 1K0 907 383 G    HW: 1K0 907 383 G
       Component: Towbar module H10 0110  
       Revision: 3A001001    Serial number: 006789000000
       Coding: 010D000100000000
       Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
       VCID: 31630C1C68B32ECD0A-8064
    
    No fault code found.
    
    End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 03:11)--------------------------
    This fault is also worrying....
    Code:
    Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 7H0-937-08x-09.clb
    ...
    01044 - Control Module Incorrectly Coded 
                000 -  -  - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00100000
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 255
                        Mileage: 246979 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2012.06.27
                        Time: 00:21:27
    I notice there is no coding information for the 1K8 buttons?

    Hopefully the above makes sense and someone can give some advice on the situation.

    Thanks
    Jason

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    your mfsw control module doesn't support illumination same as mk5 mfsw module, so you either solder some wires for illumination or replace module
    check this

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    I thought that may be the case, thanks for confirming!
    On the T5, is the control module controlled via the BCM, via LIN bus?
    On the mk5 there is an actual module under the steering column.

    Thanks
    Jason

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    yep directly via bcm

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    I agree with m87a. The button illumination data is sent by LIN. If you want the buttons illuminated, you'll need a 7E0 BCM.
    Your coding for the BCM seems to be fine.

    My wheel with 7E0 BCM has the coding:

    Subsystem 7 - Part No SW: 1K8 959 442 HW: 1K8 959 442
    Component: E221__MFL-DC1 H03 0103
    Serial number: 27140002547420014516
    Coding: A4FFFF
    your assumption for the pinout is almost correct.

    1 - 12v
    2 - GND
    3 - LIN
    4 - Horn Plate
    5 - Cruise control

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    Resolved

    To summarize the golfgti thread, as it may help others:
    1K8 buttons work but will not illuminate.
    1K8 buttons can be forced to illuminate by soldering a wire to pin 2 of the 5 pin connector inside the MFSW buttons, but they will then be on all the time (with ignition).

    6C0 buttons (6C0 959 442) will work and illuminate:
    The 6C0 version C and D buttons have cruise control buttons.
    C standard cruise, D adaptive cruise.
    Cruise buttons will not work and be redundant, but the other buttons will work fine.

    6C0 with no revision letter, do not have cruise and fully work and illuminate.

    Thanks
    Jas

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    I suppose one could also consider 2H0 959 442


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    Quote Originally Posted by iichel View Post
    I suppose one could also consider 2H0 959 442
    Is 2H0 from an Amarok?
    Brilliant, thanks!

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