Cruise control label 7E0 BCM --> cancel switch

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Hey guys, hope I'm not interrupting anyone watching the Bathurst 12h race. Spoiler alert: just completed the 1st racing lap.

The advanced measurement values of the 7E0 937 090 BCM of the cruise control, more specific, the cancel switch seems to be the wrong way around.
If the switch is at 'on' it says at the cancel button 'activated' and if cancel is selected, it says 'not activated'.
I do apologise for the bad video quality but it's a bit dark an keeping both the screen and the stalk visible was a bit tricky.
If you look closely, you can distinguish 'activated' and 'not activated'.


The switch works the way it's intended:


equipment:
Code:
Tuesday,30,January,2018,15:48:11:11868
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x86(VirtualBox)
VCDS Version 18.1.0.2  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4411.4
Data version: 20180122 DS285.1
www.Ross-Tech.com

Workshop Code: 123 12345 012345

VIN: WVWZZZ6RZBYiichel  License Plate: 
Mileage:    Repair Order: 



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Chassis Type: 6R-VW25 (7E0)
Scan: 01 03 04 05 08 09 10 15 17 19 20 25 2B 2E 37 3C 44 47 55 56
          61 69 6C 77

VIN: WVWZZZ6RZBYiichel   Mileage: 

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
20-High Beam Assist. -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
2B-Steer. Col. Lock -- Status: OK 0000
2E-Media Player 3 -- Status: OK 0000
37-Navigation -- Status: OK 0000
3C-Lane Change -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
61-Battery Regul. -- Status: OK 0000
69-Trailer -- Status: OK 0000
6C-Back-up Cam. -- Status: OK 0000
77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000
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Address 01: Engine (J000-CFWA)       Labels:. 03P-906-021-CFW.clb
   Part No SW: 03P 906 021 B    HW: 03P 907 425 
   Component: R3 1.2l TDI   H06 9980  
   Revision: 12005001    Serial number:               
   Coding: 00114036033401080000
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM12TDI03103P906021B 001043
   ROD: EV_ECM12TDI03103P906021AA.rod
   VCID: 270B06DDAF6FF1FF09F-8073

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0 

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels:. 6R0-907-37x-ESP90.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 907 379 AS    HW: 6R0 907 379 AS
   Component: ESP9.0i front H02 0002  
   Serial number: --------------
   Coding: 21DD4885432500C5841A126EC25500521505
   Shop #: WSC 00049 770 00138
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Brake1ESP90iBOSCH 003020
   ROD: EV_Brake1ESP90iBOSCH_003_VW21.rod
   VCID: 0F7B4E7D27DF89BFE1F-805B

No fault code found.

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Address 04: Steering Angle (G085)       Labels:* 6R0-959-654.clb
   Part No SW: 6RA 959 654     HW: 6RA 959 654 
   Component: LENKW.SENSOR  H02 0020  
   Serial number: 090465LBH0000C
   Coding: 01
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_LWSKLOVW25X 005002
   ROD: EV_LWSKLOVW25X.rod
   VCID: 0F7B4E7D27DF89BFE1F-805B

No fault code found.

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Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. (J518)       Labels:| 5K0-959-434.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 959 434 E    HW: 5K0 959 434 
   Component: VWKESSYPQ35GP 092 1202  
   Revision: 00092000    Serial number: 0346244897
   Coding: 030C0C
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_KESSYPQ35G A02717
   ROD: EV_KESSY_PQ35GP.rod
   VCID: 372BD69D7FCF617F99F-8063

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels: 6R0-907-044.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 907 044 H    HW: 6R0 907 044 H
   Component: Climatronic   H12 0812  
   Revision: V0000000    
   VCID: 3829D5A172516E07905-806D

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 7E0-937-BCM-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 7E0 937 090     HW: 7E0 937 090 
   Component: BCM PQ25 Max4 H80 0733  
   Revision: B9080001    Serial number: 0771 092150183
   Coding: 3CB02FF828CB2400933806E2FFEB9FD080A273EFE08D78D0A2  E400030800
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   VCID: 688945E162713E87C05-803D

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 5K7 955 559 B  Labels: 5K7-955-559.CLB
   Component: RLS 140415 03  37  0059 
   Coding: 0380DD

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 801 BD    HW: 6R0 959 801 BD  Labels: 6R0-959-801.CLB
   Component: J386__TSG_FT  003 8611 
   Serial number: KU0KU011111300010103
   Coding: 0200A3

   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 802 BF    HW: 6R0 959 802 BF  Labels: 6R0-959-802.CLB
   Component: J387__TSG_BT  003 8611 
   Serial number: KU0KU007111300016463
   Coding: 1000AB

   Subsystem 4 - Part No: 1K8 951 171 A
   Component: DWA-Sensor 00  001 0103 
   Coding: 000000

   Subsystem 5 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
   Component: LIN BACKUP HO  H05 1501 
   Coding: 000000

   Subsystem 6 - Part No: 1K8 951 171 A
   Component: DWA-Sensor 00  001 0103 
   Coding: 000000

   Subsystem 7 - Part No SW: 1K8 959 442     HW: 1K8 959 442 
   Component: E221__MFL-DC1  H03 0103 
   Serial number: 27140002547420014516
   Coding: A4FFFF

   Subsystem 8 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 811 B    HW: 6R0 959 811 B
   Component: J388__TSG_HL  002 0803 
   Serial number: KU0-KU008.06.0910897
   Coding: 08BC32

   Subsystem 9 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 812 B    HW: 6R0 959 812 B
   Component: J389__TSG_HR  002 0803 
   Serial number: KU0-KU004.06.0913330
   Coding: 08BC32

No fault code found.

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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446)       Labels:| 7E0-919-475.clb
   Part No SW: 7E0 919 475 L    HW: 7N0 919 475 
   Component: PARKHILFE 8K  H06 0106  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 28231422402620
   Coding: 318001
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_VW75XParkAssis8K 001003
   ROD: EV_EPHVA18VW250GPCS_VW25.rod
   VCID: 3B23CAAD43E7451F7D7-806F

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 5K0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 959 655 K    HW: 6R0 959 655 K
   Component: VW10Airbag01M H10 0020  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 003GX0142TCE
   Coding: 00314D
   Shop #: WSC 01383 785 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250 A01001
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250.rod
   VCID: 4ACD9F691C3DEC97F61-801F

   Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side: 
   Serial number: 3575HRB40650BI7U48C8

   Crash sensor for side airbag: front passenger side: 
   Serial number: 3585HRB405J09RECEOUJ

   Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: driver side: 
   Serial number: 3515RRB405T0BTBEF9G7

   Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: passenger side: 
   Serial number: 3525RRB405R0BTBEKPFQ

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
   Part No SW: 6R0 920 870 A    HW: 6R0 920 870 A
   Component: KOMBI         H04 0709  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 140E01
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04723
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_004_VW25.rod
   VCID: 3333E28D6BB78D5FA57-8067

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 7E0-909-901.clb
   Part No SW: 7E0 909 901     HW: 7E0 937 090 
   Component: GW-K-CAN TP20 H80 0733  
   Revision: B9080001    
   Coding: 042200
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   VCID: 688945E162713E87C05-803D

No fault code found.

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Address 20: High Beam Assist. (J844)       Labels:| 8S0-857-511.clb
   Part No SW: 7E0 857 511 G    HW: 7E0 857 511 E
   Component: FLA           H10 0003  
   Revision: AA001001    
   Coding: 040C00E200000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_HighBeamAssisAU316 001004
   ROD: EV_HighBeamAssisAU316.rod
   VCID: 2E05F3F98095A0B7CA9-807B

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234 
   Component: IMMO          H04 0709  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 000007
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03710
   ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09.rod
   VCID: 6A8D3FE97CFD0C97D61-803F

No fault code found.

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Address 2B: Steer. Col. Lock (J764)       Labels:| 5K0-905-861.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 905 861 B    HW: 5K0 905 861 B
   Component: ELV-PQ35      H20 0240  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 11000256123005
   Coding: 4100000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ELVMarquMPVW36X A01001
   ROD: EV_ELVMarquMPVW36X.rod
   VCID: 2F3BEEFD879FA9BFC1F-807B

No fault code found.

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Address 2E: Media Player 3 (J650)       Labels:. 5N0-035-342.lbl
   Part No SW: 5N0 035 342 G    HW: 5N0 035 342 G
   Component: SG EXT.PLAYER H19 0770  
   Revision: A1001003    Serial number: 7666620365    
   Coding: 010100
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   VCID: 2B03FAEDB307D59FED7-807F

No fault code found.

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Address 37: Navigation (J0506)       Labels:. 1T0-035-680.clb
   Part No SW: 1T0 035 686 E    HW: 1T0 035 686 H
   Component: RNS-MID       H26 6276  
   Revision: AB001001    Serial number: VWZ6Z7P1950254
   Coding: 00070002010000A10001
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   VCID: 3635DB9978459877829-8063

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1T0 919 859 B
   Component: EU West V15  8515 

No fault code found.

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Address 3C: Lane Change (J769)       Labels:| 5Q0-907-566.clb
   Part No SW: 7E0 907 566 C    HW: 4H0 907 566 F
   Component: SWA Master    H07 0030  
   Serial number: 0384674663
   Coding: 030321
   Shop #: WSC 54321 321 54321
   ASAM Dataset: EV_LaneChangAssis 001028
   ROD: EV_LaneChangAssis_VN75.rod
   VCID: 3039ED819AA1B647D85-8065

   Lane Change Assistant 2: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 7E0 907 568 C    HW: 4H0 907 568 F
   Component: SWA Slave  H08 0030 
   Serial number: 0432634593          
   Coding: 030321

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 6Q0-423-156.clb
   Part No: 6R0 423 156 B
   Component: LenkhilfeTRW        V277  
   Coding: 11241
   Shop #: WSC 54321  
   VCID: 2F3BEEFD8E5FA9BFC1F-807B

No fault code found.

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Address 47: Sound System (R12)       Labels: 5K0-035-456.clb
   Part No SW: 5C6 035 456 C    HW: 5C6 035 456 C
   Component: KonzernAmp10K H08 6831  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: EAA098C0000052
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AudioVerst10KanalSTT4 001001
   ROD: EV_AudioVerst10KanalSTT4.rod
   VCID: 280905E1A271FE87005-807D

No fault code found.

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Address 55: Headlight Range (J431)       Labels:. 6R0-907-357.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 907 357     HW: 6R0 907 357 
   Component: LWR-ECU       H02 0070  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: --------------
   Coding: 0192000001000000
   Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   ASAM Dataset: EV_HeadlRegulVWLWRPt 001004
   ROD: EV_HeadlRegulVWLWRPt_VW25.rod
   VCID: 77AB169D3F4FA17F59F-8023

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio (J0506)       Labels:. 1T0-035-680.clb
   Part No SW: 1T0 035 686 E    HW: 1T0 035 686 H
   Component: RNS-MID       H26 6276  
   Revision: AB001001    Serial number: VWZ6Z7P1950254
   Coding: 00070002010000A10001
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   VCID: 3635DB9978459877829-8063

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1T0 919 859 B
   Component: EU West V15  8515 

No fault code found.

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Address 61: Battery Regul. (J840)       Labels:. 1K0-907-534.clb
   Part No SW: 7E0 907 534     HW: 7E0 937 090 
   Component: Batt.regelung H80 0733  
   Serial number: 0771 092150183
   Coding: 030F1A5A
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   VCID: 688945E162713E87C05-803D

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 6C0 915 181     HW: 6C0 915 181 
   Component: J367-BDM  H08 0223 
   Serial number: 61083A44504351928092

No fault code found.

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Address 69: Trailer (J345)       Labels:. 1K0-907-383-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 383 E    HW: 1K0 907 383 E
   Component: Anhaenger     H07 0080  
   Revision: 3A002002    Serial number: 00000116932377
   Coding: 0100000100000000
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   VCID: 2F3BEEFD871FA9BFC1F-807B

No fault code found.

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Address 6C: Back-up Cam.        Labels: 5N0-907-441.clb
   Part No SW: 7E0 907 441     HW: 7E0 907 441 
   Component: J772__Rearview      0040  
   Revision: 00H08000    Serial number: 525PA8-J060533
   Coding: 0030115
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   VCID: 65974CD5996323EFFB3-8031

No fault code found.

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Address 77: Telephone (J412)       Labels:| 3C8-035-730-A.clb
   Part No SW: 3C8 035 730 E    HW: 3C8 035 730 E
   Component: Telefon       025 0983  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 35502105254406
   Coding: 020100000100010000000101
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_UHVPremi 002709
   ROD: EV_UHVPremi.rod
   VCID: 25170CD5D563E3EF3B3-8071

No fault code found.

End----(Elapsed Time: 02:19, VBatt start/end: 11.9V/11.9V. VIgn 11.8V)-----
 
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Hi Michel,

I'm not entirely sure if we checked/modified that label since this report. The YouTube videos aren't working anymore (likely due to time since creating them).

I believe R-T is limited to one vehicle with that BCM type (2017 Jetta S 5 speed) so we can check the function on that car but it has the newer Mk7 type of steering wheel. There may be some discrepancies due to the newer wheel alone when compared to our early stalk-type CCS label file work.

I'm subscribing to this thread as a reminder to revisit this file. Please do bump it back up if you still see the discrepancy with a current version of VCDS.

Thanks,
Dana
 
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Hi Dana, using the latest VCDS and checking advanced MB:

Stalk switch in ON:
Cruise switch switch is ON
Cancel switch is shown as operated

Stalk switch is set to cancel
Cruise switch is ON
Cancel switch is shown as not operated

Should be the other way around, I guess.
 
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Thanks Michel. The current 7E file reads:

004,0,Cruise Control Positions (CCS)
004,1,Cruise Control,Main Switch,Range: ON/OFF/Not Installed
004,2,Cruise Control,Cancel Switch,Range: ON/OFF/Not Oper.
004,3,Cruise Control,SET/Decelerate,Range: ON/OFF/Not Oper.
004,4,Cruise Control,RESET/Accelerate,Range: ON/OFF/Not Oper.​

My early 6R work contained:

004,0,Cruise Control Positions (CCS)
004,1,CCS W/O Activation,,Range: On / Off /Not Installed
004,2,CCS Cancel,,Range: On / Off / Not Oper.
004,3,CCS Decel,,Range: On / Off / Not Oper.
004,4,CCS Accel,,Range: On / Off / Not Oper.

I took a peek at the 6J Ibiza data (found in guided fault finding using a time machine) and it showed 004.1: GRA Switch in position without activation. 004.2: GRA switch in position - Cancel.

That must be what I meant by "CCS W/O Activation" because it doesn't make much sense to current-day Dana :) I believe most of those old Seat documents were translated from Spanish to German followed by English so .. details easily end up scrambled.

I'll hold off on editing 7E0-937-BCM-V1.lbl until I hear back from Santos. His control module map showed the following with (steering wheel control) CCS off:

4,0,,
4,1,,,
;OFF,,
4,2,,,
;Not Oper.,,
4,3,,,
;Not Oper.,,
4,4,,,
;Not Oper.,,​
 
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