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    Cruise control label 7E0 BCM --> cancel switch

    Hey guys, hope I'm not interrupting anyone watching the Bathurst 12h race. Spoiler alert: just completed the 1st racing lap.

    The advanced measurement values of the 7E0 937 090 BCM of the cruise control, more specific, the cancel switch seems to be the wrong way around.
    If the switch is at 'on' it says at the cancel button 'activated' and if cancel is selected, it says 'not activated'.
    I do apologise for the bad video quality but it's a bit dark an keeping both the screen and the stalk visible was a bit tricky.
    If you look closely, you can distinguish 'activated' and 'not activated'.



    The switch works the way it's intended:



    equipment:
    Code:
    Tuesday,30,January,2018,15:48:11:11868
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x86(VirtualBox)
    VCDS Version 18.1.0.2  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4411.4
    Data version: 20180122 DS285.1
    www.Ross-Tech.com
    
    Workshop Code: 123 12345 012345
    
    VIN: WVWZZZ6RZBYiichel  License Plate: 
    Mileage:    Repair Order: 
    
    
    
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    
    Chassis Type: 6R-VW25 (7E0)
    Scan: 01 03 04 05 08 09 10 15 17 19 20 25 2B 2E 37 3C 44 47 55 56
              61 69 6C 77
    
    VIN: WVWZZZ6RZBYiichel   Mileage: 
    
    01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
    04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
    05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: OK 0000
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
    10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
    20-High Beam Assist. -- Status: OK 0000
    25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
    2B-Steer. Col. Lock -- Status: OK 0000
    2E-Media Player 3 -- Status: OK 0000
    37-Navigation -- Status: OK 0000
    3C-Lane Change -- Status: OK 0000
    44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
    55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000
    56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
    61-Battery Regul. -- Status: OK 0000
    69-Trailer -- Status: OK 0000
    6C-Back-up Cam. -- Status: OK 0000
    77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine (J000-CFWA)       Labels:. 03P-906-021-CFW.clb
       Part No SW: 03P 906 021 B    HW: 03P 907 425 
       Component: R3 1.2l TDI   H06 9980  
       Revision: 12005001    Serial number:               
       Coding: 00114036033401080000
       Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
       ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM12TDI03103P906021B 001043
       ROD: EV_ECM12TDI03103P906021AA.rod
       VCID: 270B06DDAF6FF1FF09F-8073
    
    No fault code found.
    Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0 
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels:. 6R0-907-37x-ESP90.clb
       Part No SW: 6R0 907 379 AS    HW: 6R0 907 379 AS
       Component: ESP9.0i front H02 0002  
       Serial number: --------------
       Coding: 21DD4885432500C5841A126EC25500521505
       Shop #: WSC 00049 770 00138
       ASAM Dataset: EV_Brake1ESP90iBOSCH 003020
       ROD: EV_Brake1ESP90iBOSCH_003_VW21.rod
       VCID: 0F7B4E7D27DF89BFE1F-805B
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 04: Steering Angle (G085)       Labels:* 6R0-959-654.clb
       Part No SW: 6RA 959 654     HW: 6RA 959 654 
       Component: LENKW.SENSOR  H02 0020  
       Serial number: 090465LBH0000C
       Coding: 01
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       ASAM Dataset: EV_LWSKLOVW25X 005002
       ROD: EV_LWSKLOVW25X.rod
       VCID: 0F7B4E7D27DF89BFE1F-805B
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. (J518)       Labels:| 5K0-959-434.clb
       Part No SW: 5K0 959 434 E    HW: 5K0 959 434 
       Component: VWKESSYPQ35GP 092 1202  
       Revision: 00092000    Serial number: 0346244897
       Coding: 030C0C
       Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
       ASAM Dataset: EV_KESSYPQ35G A02717
       ROD: EV_KESSY_PQ35GP.rod
       VCID: 372BD69D7FCF617F99F-8063
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels: 6R0-907-044.clb
       Part No SW: 6R0 907 044 H    HW: 6R0 907 044 H
       Component: Climatronic   H12 0812  
       Revision: V0000000    
       VCID: 3829D5A172516E07905-806D
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 7E0-937-BCM-V1.clb
       Part No SW: 7E0 937 090     HW: 7E0 937 090 
       Component: BCM PQ25 Max4 H80 0733  
       Revision: B9080001    Serial number: 0771 092150183
       Coding: 3CB02FF828CB2400933806E2FFEB9FD080A273EFE08D78D0A2  E400030800
       Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
       VCID: 688945E162713E87C05-803D
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 5K7 955 559 B  Labels: 5K7-955-559.CLB
       Component: RLS 140415 03  37  0059 
       Coding: 0380DD
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 801 BD    HW: 6R0 959 801 BD  Labels: 6R0-959-801.CLB
       Component: J386__TSG_FT  003 8611 
       Serial number: KU0KU011111300010103
       Coding: 0200A3
    
       Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 802 BF    HW: 6R0 959 802 BF  Labels: 6R0-959-802.CLB
       Component: J387__TSG_BT  003 8611 
       Serial number: KU0KU007111300016463
       Coding: 1000AB
    
       Subsystem 4 - Part No: 1K8 951 171 A
       Component: DWA-Sensor 00  001 0103 
       Coding: 000000
    
       Subsystem 5 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
       Component: LIN BACKUP HO  H05 1501 
       Coding: 000000
    
       Subsystem 6 - Part No: 1K8 951 171 A
       Component: DWA-Sensor 00  001 0103 
       Coding: 000000
    
       Subsystem 7 - Part No SW: 1K8 959 442     HW: 1K8 959 442 
       Component: E221__MFL-DC1  H03 0103 
       Serial number: 27140002547420014516
       Coding: A4FFFF
    
       Subsystem 8 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 811 B    HW: 6R0 959 811 B
       Component: J388__TSG_HL  002 0803 
       Serial number: KU0-KU008.06.0910897
       Coding: 08BC32
    
       Subsystem 9 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 812 B    HW: 6R0 959 812 B
       Component: J389__TSG_HR  002 0803 
       Serial number: KU0-KU004.06.0913330
       Coding: 08BC32
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446)       Labels:| 7E0-919-475.clb
       Part No SW: 7E0 919 475 L    HW: 7N0 919 475 
       Component: PARKHILFE 8K  H06 0106  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 28231422402620
       Coding: 318001
       Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
       ASAM Dataset: EV_VW75XParkAssis8K 001003
       ROD: EV_EPHVA18VW250GPCS_VW25.rod
       VCID: 3B23CAAD43E7451F7D7-806F
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 5K0-959-655.clb
       Part No SW: 6R0 959 655 K    HW: 6R0 959 655 K
       Component: VW10Airbag01M H10 0020  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 003GX0142TCE
       Coding: 00314D
       Shop #: WSC 01383 785 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250 A01001
       ROD: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250.rod
       VCID: 4ACD9F691C3DEC97F61-801F
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side: 
       Serial number: 3575HRB40650BI7U48C8
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag: front passenger side: 
       Serial number: 3585HRB405J09RECEOUJ
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: driver side: 
       Serial number: 3515RRB405T0BTBEF9G7
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: passenger side: 
       Serial number: 3525RRB405R0BTBEKPFQ
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
       Part No SW: 6R0 920 870 A    HW: 6R0 920 870 A
       Component: KOMBI         H04 0709  
       Serial number: 00000000000000
       Coding: 140E01
       Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
       ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04723
       ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_004_VW25.rod
       VCID: 3333E28D6BB78D5FA57-8067
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 7E0-909-901.clb
       Part No SW: 7E0 909 901     HW: 7E0 937 090 
       Component: GW-K-CAN TP20 H80 0733  
       Revision: B9080001    
       Coding: 042200
       Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
       VCID: 688945E162713E87C05-803D
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 20: High Beam Assist. (J844)       Labels:| 8S0-857-511.clb
       Part No SW: 7E0 857 511 G    HW: 7E0 857 511 E
       Component: FLA           H10 0003  
       Revision: AA001001    
       Coding: 040C00E200000000000000
       Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
       ASAM Dataset: EV_HighBeamAssisAU316 001004
       ROD: EV_HighBeamAssisAU316.rod
       VCID: 2E05F3F98095A0B7CA9-807B
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
       Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234 
       Component: IMMO          H04 0709  
       Serial number: 00000000000000
       Coding: 000007
       Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
       ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03710
       ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09.rod
       VCID: 6A8D3FE97CFD0C97D61-803F
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 2B: Steer. Col. Lock (J764)       Labels:| 5K0-905-861.clb
       Part No SW: 5K0 905 861 B    HW: 5K0 905 861 B
       Component: ELV-PQ35      H20 0240  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 11000256123005
       Coding: 4100000000000000
       Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
       ASAM Dataset: EV_ELVMarquMPVW36X A01001
       ROD: EV_ELVMarquMPVW36X.rod
       VCID: 2F3BEEFD879FA9BFC1F-807B
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 2E: Media Player 3 (J650)       Labels:. 5N0-035-342.lbl
       Part No SW: 5N0 035 342 G    HW: 5N0 035 342 G
       Component: SG EXT.PLAYER H19 0770  
       Revision: A1001003    Serial number: 7666620365    
       Coding: 010100
       Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
       VCID: 2B03FAEDB307D59FED7-807F
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 37: Navigation (J0506)       Labels:. 1T0-035-680.clb
       Part No SW: 1T0 035 686 E    HW: 1T0 035 686 H
       Component: RNS-MID       H26 6276  
       Revision: AB001001    Serial number: VWZ6Z7P1950254
       Coding: 00070002010000A10001
       Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
       VCID: 3635DB9978459877829-8063
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1T0 919 859 B
       Component: EU West V15  8515 
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 3C: Lane Change (J769)       Labels:| 5Q0-907-566.clb
       Part No SW: 7E0 907 566 C    HW: 4H0 907 566 F
       Component: SWA Master    H07 0030  
       Serial number: 0384674663
       Coding: 030321
       Shop #: WSC 54321 321 54321
       ASAM Dataset: EV_LaneChangAssis 001028
       ROD: EV_LaneChangAssis_VN75.rod
       VCID: 3039ED819AA1B647D85-8065
    
       Lane Change Assistant 2: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 7E0 907 568 C    HW: 4H0 907 568 F
       Component: SWA Slave  H08 0030 
       Serial number: 0432634593          
       Coding: 030321
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 6Q0-423-156.clb
       Part No: 6R0 423 156 B
       Component: LenkhilfeTRW        V277  
       Coding: 11241
       Shop #: WSC 54321  
       VCID: 2F3BEEFD8E5FA9BFC1F-807B
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 47: Sound System (R12)       Labels: 5K0-035-456.clb
       Part No SW: 5C6 035 456 C    HW: 5C6 035 456 C
       Component: KonzernAmp10K H08 6831  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: EAA098C0000052
       ASAM Dataset: EV_AudioVerst10KanalSTT4 001001
       ROD: EV_AudioVerst10KanalSTT4.rod
       VCID: 280905E1A271FE87005-807D
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 55: Headlight Range (J431)       Labels:. 6R0-907-357.clb
       Part No SW: 6R0 907 357     HW: 6R0 907 357 
       Component: LWR-ECU       H02 0070  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: --------------
       Coding: 0192000001000000
       Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
       ASAM Dataset: EV_HeadlRegulVWLWRPt 001004
       ROD: EV_HeadlRegulVWLWRPt_VW25.rod
       VCID: 77AB169D3F4FA17F59F-8023
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 56: Radio (J0506)       Labels:. 1T0-035-680.clb
       Part No SW: 1T0 035 686 E    HW: 1T0 035 686 H
       Component: RNS-MID       H26 6276  
       Revision: AB001001    Serial number: VWZ6Z7P1950254
       Coding: 00070002010000A10001
       Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
       VCID: 3635DB9978459877829-8063
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1T0 919 859 B
       Component: EU West V15  8515 
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 61: Battery Regul. (J840)       Labels:. 1K0-907-534.clb
       Part No SW: 7E0 907 534     HW: 7E0 937 090 
       Component: Batt.regelung H80 0733  
       Serial number: 0771 092150183
       Coding: 030F1A5A
       Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
       VCID: 688945E162713E87C05-803D
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 6C0 915 181     HW: 6C0 915 181 
       Component: J367-BDM  H08 0223 
       Serial number: 61083A44504351928092
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 69: Trailer (J345)       Labels:. 1K0-907-383-V2.clb
       Part No SW: 1K0 907 383 E    HW: 1K0 907 383 E
       Component: Anhaenger     H07 0080  
       Revision: 3A002002    Serial number: 00000116932377
       Coding: 0100000100000000
       Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
       VCID: 2F3BEEFD871FA9BFC1F-807B
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 6C: Back-up Cam.        Labels: 5N0-907-441.clb
       Part No SW: 7E0 907 441     HW: 7E0 907 441 
       Component: J772__Rearview      0040  
       Revision: 00H08000    Serial number: 525PA8-J060533
       Coding: 0030115
       Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
       VCID: 65974CD5996323EFFB3-8031
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 77: Telephone (J412)       Labels:| 3C8-035-730-A.clb
       Part No SW: 3C8 035 730 E    HW: 3C8 035 730 E
       Component: Telefon       025 0983  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 35502105254406
       Coding: 020100000100010000000101
       Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
       ASAM Dataset: EV_UHVPremi 002709
       ROD: EV_UHVPremi.rod
       VCID: 25170CD5D563E3EF3B3-8071
    
    No fault code found.
    
    End----(Elapsed Time: 02:19, VBatt start/end: 11.9V/11.9V. VIgn 11.8V)-----

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    Hi Michel,

    I'm not entirely sure if we checked/modified that label since this report. The YouTube videos aren't working anymore (likely due to time since creating them).

    I believe R-T is limited to one vehicle with that BCM type (2017 Jetta S 5 speed) so we can check the function on that car but it has the newer Mk7 type of steering wheel. There may be some discrepancies due to the newer wheel alone when compared to our early stalk-type CCS label file work.

    I'm subscribing to this thread as a reminder to revisit this file. Please do bump it back up if you still see the discrepancy with a current version of VCDS.

    Thanks,
    Dana

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    Hi Dana, using the latest VCDS and checking advanced MB:

    Stalk switch in ON:
    Cruise switch switch is ON
    Cancel switch is shown as operated

    Stalk switch is set to cancel
    Cruise switch is ON
    Cancel switch is shown as not operated

    Should be the other way around, I guess.

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    Thanks Michel. The current 7E file reads:

    004,0,Cruise Control Positions (CCS)
    004,1,Cruise Control,Main Switch,Range: ON/OFF/Not Installed
    004,2,Cruise Control,Cancel Switch,Range: ON/OFF/Not Oper.
    004,3,Cruise Control,SET/Decelerate,Range: ON/OFF/Not Oper.
    004,4,Cruise Control,RESET/Accelerate,Range: ON/OFF/Not Oper.

    My early 6R work contained:

    004,0,Cruise Control Positions (CCS)
    004,1,CCS W/O Activation,,Range: On / Off /Not Installed
    004,2,CCS Cancel,,Range: On / Off / Not Oper.
    004,3,CCS Decel,,Range: On / Off / Not Oper.
    004,4,CCS Accel,,Range: On / Off / Not Oper.

    I took a peek at the 6J Ibiza data (found in guided fault finding using a time machine) and it showed 004.1: GRA Switch in position without activation. 004.2: GRA switch in position - Cancel.

    That must be what I meant by "CCS W/O Activation" because it doesn't make much sense to current-day Dana I believe most of those old Seat documents were translated from Spanish to German followed by English so .. details easily end up scrambled.

    I'll hold off on editing 7E0-937-BCM-V1.lbl until I hear back from Santos. His control module map showed the following with (steering wheel control) CCS off:

    4,0,,
    4,1,,,
    ;OFF,,
    4,2,,,
    ;Not Oper.,,
    4,3,,,
    ;Not Oper.,,
    4,4,,,
    ;Not Oper.,,

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    Hi Dana, here is a new video:


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