Help with ABS module coding (MK60EC1)

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Hi, I am having a little problem withcoding of a used ABS module on a VW R32. I made a copy of the old coding but when i put that in it rejects it. Jack helped me out before with one on Golf R RHD so Jack if you could be of assitance I would gladly apreciate it. I would like to learn how to properly do it so if anyone has info on how to that is very welcome too.
Model is a 2008 VW R32 RHD.
Old module number and coding was: 1K0 907 379 AE, CODING: 136B800D092600FA680C01E9901C0081B500


Full scan:
Code:
Wednesday,10,January,2018,11:43:21:27662
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 17.8.1.0 (x64)
Data version: 20171130 DS276.6
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: WVWZZZ1KZ9W040153   License Plate: KELVIN R32
Mileage: 117550km-73042mi   Repair Order: 


Chassis Type: 1K (1K0)
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 22 25 42 44 46 52 55 56 62 72

VIN: WVWZZZ1KZ9W040153   Mileage: 117550km-73042miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
22-AWD -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
 
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Address 01: Engine        Labels: 022-906-032-BDB.lbl
   Part No SW: 022 906 032 KG    HW: 022 906 032 GP
   Component: R32-DQ-EU4      G   1067  
   Revision: 1QH04---    Serial number: VWX7Z0H43NT89R
   Coding: 0000178
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 5ABA154695737796BF-800E

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0110 1001

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Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 02E-927-770.clb
   Part No SW: 02E 300 011 CP    HW: 02E 927 770 AJ
   Component: GSG DSG AG6     440 1812  
   Revision: 05144002    Serial number: 00001008271205
   Coding: 0000020
   Shop #: WSC 04940 001 00001
   VCID: 5FCC24528E5192BEC8-800A

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels:. 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 BE    HW: 1K0 907 379 BE
   Component: ESP MK60EC1   H31 0108  
   Revision: 00H31001    
   Coding: 00000000000000000000000000000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 76E261F6C1AB33F6BB-8022

3 Faults Found:
02214 - Tire Pressure Warning 
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100010
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 191
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                    Count: 3
                    Count: 0
                    Count: 20992
                    Count: 397
                    Count: 43264
                    Count: 0
                    Count: 0
                    Count: 0

01042 - Control Module; Not Coded 
            000 -  - 
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 191
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                    Count: 3
                    Count: 0
                    Count: 20992
                    Count: 195
                    Count: 43264
                    Count: 0
                    Count: 0
                    Count: 0

00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85) 
            005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100101
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 191
                    Mileage: 117556 km
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                    Count: 3
                    Count: 0
                    Count: 29184
                    Count: 295
                    Count: 43264
                    Count: 0
                    Count: 0
                    Count: 0


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Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 1K0-907-044.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 044 DE    HW: 1K0 907 044 DE
   Component: ClimatronicPQ35 130 1213  
   Revision: 00130023    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 6DD04E9A74FDF02E4A-8038

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels:. 3C0-937-049-30-H.lbl
   Part No SW: 3C8 937 049 E    HW: 3C8 937 049 E
   Component: Bordnetz-SG     H54 2602  
   Revision: 00H54000    Serial number: 00000008535551
   Coding: E68F8F2700041500471400001400000000097B075C000100000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 785 00200
   VCID: 336498E2525966DE5C-8066

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K2 955 119 E  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer 100608 021  0501  
   Coding: 00038805
   Shop #: WSC 00000  

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 955 559 AH  Labels: 1K0-955-559-AG.CLB
   Component: RLS     250711 054  0403  
   Coding: 00209069
   Shop #: WSC 00000  

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 1K0-909-605.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 909 605 AB    HW: 1K0 909 605 AB
   Component: 5H AIRBAG VW8R  034 8000  
   Revision: 05034000    Serial number: 003B6D0BEXTY  
   Coding: 0013640
   Shop #: WSC 01269 785 00200
   VCID: 6CD6439E4FE7F9265D-8038

   Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 6332MSME3D41602FF

   Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6342MSME3D417764H

   Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6352QSME73503D5BO

   Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6362QSME677B457F/

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 BS    HW: 1K0 953 549 BS
   Component: J0527           051 0101  
   Coding: 0012142
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 04060B3E47771166B5-8050

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX 
   Component: E0221           002 0010

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-17.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K6 920 864 B    HW: 1K6 920 864 B
   Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT VDD 1214  
   Revision: V0002000    Serial number: VWX7Z0H43NT89R
   Coding: 0007503
   Shop #: WSC 70050 981 95893
   VCID: 316892EAA84554CE2E-8064

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels:. 1K0-907-530-V3.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 Q    HW: 1K0 907 951 
   Component: J533  Gateway   H07 0062  
   Revision:   H07 01    Serial number: 140608F2000346
   Coding: ED837F060002020003
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 3560A6FA5C2D78EE72-8060

1 Fault Found:
01305 - Databus for Infotainment 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 1
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 191
                    Mileage: 117556 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 11:23:21


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Address 22: AWD        Labels: 1K0-907-554.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 907 554 L
   Component: Haldex 4Motion      0116  
   Coding: 0000001
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 3662A1F6412B73F67B-8062

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 1K6 920 864 B    HW: 1K6 920 864 B
   Component: IMMO            VDD 1214  
   Revision: V0002000    Serial number: VWX7Z0H43NT89R
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 316892EAA84554CE2E-8064

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels:. 1K0-959-701-MAX3.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 701 AL    HW: 1K0 959 701 AL
   Component: Tuer-SG         006 1204  
   Coding: 0000694
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 78FE6FCE0BBF4586A9-802C

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1K0-909-14x-GEN3.clb
   Part No: 1K0 909 144 C
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 141    2301  
   Revision: 00H15000    
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 2A5A858685932716EF-807E

No fault code found.

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Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels:. 1K0-959-433-MAX.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 433 CA    HW: 1K0 959 433 CA
   Component:    KSG PQ35 G2  020 0204  
   Revision: 00020000    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 819002005103087F2D0484057008DFC6F0FCA0
   Shop #: WSC 00000 785 00200
   VCID: 71E852EA68C514CE6E-8024

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 D
   Component: LIN BACKUP HORN H08 9001

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 951 178 A
   Component: Neigungssensor  003 0203

   Subsystem 3 - Part No: 1K0 951 178 A
   Component: Innenraumueberw.003 0203

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels:. 1K0-959-702-MAX3.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 702 AL    HW: 1K0 959 702 AL
   Component: Tuer-SG         006 1204  
   Coding: 0000950
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 79F86ACA30B55C8ED6-802C

No fault code found.

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Address 55: Headlight Range        Labels: 1T0-907-357.lbl
   Part No: 1T0 907 357 
   Component: Dynamische LWR      0003  
   Coding: 0000004
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 74E65BFE17D721E685-8020

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio
Cannot be reached

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Address 62: Door, Rear Left        Labels:. 1K0-959-703-GEN3.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 703 K    HW: 1K0 959 703 K
   Component: Tuer-SG         006 1305  
   Coding: 0000144
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 1012552
   VCID: 387EAFCE4B3F858669-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 72: Door, Rear Right        Labels:. 1K0-959-704-GEN3.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 704 K    HW: 1K0 959 704 K
   Component: Tuer-SG         006 1305  
   Coding: 0000144
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 1012552
   VCID: 3978AACA70359C8E96-806C

No fault code found.

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Code:
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136B800D092600FA680C01E9901C0081B500 <--- too short!

try
136B800D092600FA680C01E9901C0081B50000

I would like to learn how to properly do it so if anyone has info on how to that is very welcome too.

I'm not sure anyone knows exactly what to do.
But the short answer is, look for patterns...

There are some tools available like ESPCalculator/MK60EC1 code generator.

The most well known ABS unit by far is the MK60EC1, that has been fitted to most of the Golf 5 and Golf 6 based cars for close to 10 years I'd guess. For that, there's quite a lot of knowledge and even some code generators that don't always work very well. I only use them to quickly identify the bytes for the VIN, to be honest.
Every MK60EC1 has about 20 cars that it should work in, for many markets (VW ROW, Audi ROW, NAR etc etc) so it's becoming almost exponentially complex to calculate the codes.

Make a huge table, car by car, type by type and list all the characteristics that you think could affect the coding. Chassis, LHD/RHD, engine, gearbox, VIN, TPMS, you name it. And then simply look for patterns. You'll often find some bytes being each others inverse and stuff like that as well.

What I've done is a PhD in data analysis, and what I did is to make what's called a neural network and feed it a lot of data. You tell them what kind of car, what kind of market, what kind of engine, all the data you can find. And fortunately there is a lot of data that can be found , you simply put "MK60EC1 VCDS" in google and there is your data. Then you devise some kind of clever algorithm to retrieve all the data you need from the autoscans and run the program. Advantage: very cool. Disadvantage: not all info is available from autoscan (i.e. physical stuff like ESP button, brake size). You're also limited by the availability of the data. If you can't find some data about where the car is located, you can't find a byte for it.
At a certain point you'll end up with a very comprehensive list of 'descriptions' for all the bytes. Put them all together and you have your new code.
That is more or less the 'cool' way to do it and that's how I devised the first two codes.
I like this method a lot since it's more interesting and I like a data driven approach more above a trial and error approach.

There is a much more simpler way that you can try and this is where you make 'clever' people like me looking like an idiot.
What you do is you simply use the power of google to find your cars twin brother. And then its autoscan. Just put something like

MK60EC1 "Part No SW: 022 906 032 KG HW: 022 906 032 GP"

into google and see what pops up.
There are a few reference scans available, take one with also the most similarities to your car and then simply substitute the VIN bytes. Try. Adjust. Repeat.
The adjustments, you can make them with whatever knowledge you have from the internet or your own studies.
This is what makes it both a lot of fun to get it right, yet extremely frustrating since one wrong bit out of the (8x19) bits will cause your code to be rejected.

So there is not really one trick. Just a lof of small and big tricks. Success not guaranteed.

Best solution: find yourself a Jack. Jack will usually solve your problems in life.
 
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WVWZZZ1KZ9W040153

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Vehicle Identification No.
WVWZZZ1KZ9W040153
Model
golf r32
GOLF
Date of production
03.07.2008
Year
2009
Sales type
1K14X7
Engine Code
BUB
Transmission Code
KQA
Axle drive
6A
Equipment
TK
Roof color
8E
Carpet color code
Exterior color / Paint Code
8E / A7W

Address 01: Engine Labels: 022-906-032-BDB.lbl
Part No SW
: 022 906 032 KG HW: 022 906 032 GP
Component
: R32-DQ-EU4 G 1067

Part No SW: 02E 300 011 CP HW: 02E 927 770 AJ
Component
: GSG DSG AG6 440 1812

Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104) Labels:. 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb
Part No SW
: 1K0 907 379 BE HW: 1K0 907 379 BE
<<<<<<<<<<<< IDK ( I don't think this is to this car ) :cry: 517BE is though
Component
: ESP MK60EC1 H31 0108
Revision
: 00H31001

Old module number and coding was: 1K0 907 379 AE,
CODING: 136B800D092600FA680C01E9901C0081B500 ( Correct compatible )

Coding
: 00000000000000000000000000000000000000
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OP: please call dealer to double check this part is correct and when I get a chance I will have a look.

JPPSG Please!

http://forums.ross-tech.com/showthr...essional-Problem-Solver-Guide-quot-JPPSG-quot




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Thanks for the replies, iichel I tried adding the 00 at the end but stil gets rejected. Jack the problem is that there is no dealer where i live for these cars (Suriname). We have a dealer but they only have acces for comercial cars and don't even want to taek a look at any other because the are not authorised to do so. The donor ABS that is fitted was from a 2010 VW Golf R20. I could not read the coding from there because the car was dismantled.
 
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component number of the old one was ESP MK60EC1 H35 0104
 
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According to the Etka and Partslink this part is not compatible based on VIN number WVWZZZ1KZ9W040153
 
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00000000000000000000000000000000000000
136B800D092600FA680C01E9901C0081B500
XX <<<<<< RHD TPMS HH 345/310 5K ( decode )
144B800D092600FAC80C01E9901C0081350000 TRY This
136B800D092600FAC80C01E9901C0081350000 & This & if anything codes report back & if no good get correct module.

It is my position that the correct module should be procured.
 
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Thanks Jack, will try and post back with the result
 
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did you come right with the coding? if not let me try and generate one for you?
 
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