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Originally Posted by
Sebastian
Long story short, Uwe has already pointed towards the culprit. The part number being off is part of the problem, this specific
ASAM ID is not present in the VW37 platform and the Component ID doesn't match the part number (3G0-035-021-* should be MU-H-TND-EU, while MU-H-LND-EU should be 3G0-035-022-*) which begs the question what the heck did you purchase there?! I certainly would not want to have that in my car for several reasons, especially not if I ever plan to take the car to a dealer or resell it - ever.
As Uwe indicated, we could add a workaround - though with this totally self induced situation I am tempted to reject that approach due to legal concerns. I will however leave the final decision to Uwe, once I got the go ahead - it gets taken care of.
Hi,
I purchased the retrofit kit from VagTec UK, for which they've provided a component protection removed (modified) MIB2 Discover Nav Pro unit (brain and display).
I'd imagine the modified software is what's playing havoc here, but I'll give them a bell and ask what's going on. They've got a decent reputation from what I can see, so am not sure what's happened here.
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Ross-Tech Employee
Besides the legal implications of a component protection removal, from what I see the issues we are having here are NOT related. Some data indicated that this may have been an Audi unit that was re-programmed with some but not all VW information - due to the (in my opinion) Frankenstein way of programming, VCDS cannot make any sense of the data at hand (and nor would the factory tool).
Anyway, workaround implemented - will be part of the next data version/update.
Sebastian @ Ross-Tech.com
// VCDS Rookie since 2003
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Originally Posted by
Sebastian
Besides the legal implications of a component protection removal, from what I see the issues we are having here are NOT related. Some data indicated that this may have been an Audi unit that was re-programmed with some but not all VW information - due to the (in my opinion) Frankenstein way of programming,
VCDS cannot make any sense of the data at hand (and nor would the factory tool).
Anyway, workaround implemented - will be part of the next data version/update.
I don't disagree with you, this certainly does seem a really obscure issue - I've spoken to someone at VagTec and he doesn't seem to know what the problem is either - I believe VagTec UK just buy the stock in from the Poland main company as they're just a franchisee, so I don't think they know too much about what goes down in terms of unit modification.
Thanks for your hard work guys, you really do some good stuff! Any idea when the next update will be pushed?
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Originally Posted by
Sebastian
Besides the legal implications of a component protection removal, from what I see the issues we are having here are NOT related. Some data indicated that this may have been an Audi unit that was re-programmed with some but not all VW information - due to the (in my opinion) Frankenstein way of programming,
VCDS cannot make any sense of the data at hand (and nor would the factory tool).
Anyway, workaround implemented - will be part of the next data version/update.
Hi,
Do you have any idea when the next update will appear?
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Originally Posted by
Sebastian
Besides the legal implications of a component protection removal, from what I see the issues we are having here are NOT related. Some data indicated that this may have been an Audi unit that was re-programmed with some but not all VW information - due to the (in my opinion) Frankenstein way of programming,
VCDS cannot make any sense of the data at hand (and nor would the factory tool).
Anyway, workaround implemented - will be part of the next data version/update.
Hi,
Back in January when I was having this issue, I was able to code my unit using the "PCI" German version of VCDS, however the English version still wouldn't work.
I've recently scanned my car and found that since updating to the new version, neither the German nor English version of VCDS can understand my unit, quoting the same issue.
Has the workaround been removed? For your reference, it's spitting out "No ASAM data for: "EV_MUHig6C3Gen2HBAS" (VW37)" due to the software part number being wrong (still no idea why!).
Thanks in advance
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Ross-Tech Employee
We're about to publish a new version, please check the download page within the next couple of days and let us know if this is fixed with the upcoming update.
Sebastian @ Ross-Tech.com
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Originally Posted by
Sebastian
We're about to publish a new version, please check the download page within the next couple of days and let us know if this is fixed with the upcoming update.
Will do, thanks mate
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Originally Posted by
Sebastian
We're about to publish a new version, please check the download page within the next couple of days and let us know if this is fixed with the upcoming update.
Hi,
I've tried the new version, and I'm still getting the same issue. This was working back in January on the German version as advised previously (and still does on the copy I have on version 17.8.1), however my interface isn't licensed to use it any longer, so I cannot run an adaptation.
Fresh autoscan attached:
Code:
Saturday,19,May,2018,15:40:39:15053
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 18.2.1.2 (x64) HEX-V2 CB: 0.4411.4
Data version: 20180518 DS287.1
www.Ross-Tech.com
VIN: WVWZZZAUZFW063529 License Plate: NY14EYS
Mileage: 45968km-28563mi Repair Order: 1
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Chassis Type: AU-VW37 (5Q0)
Scan: 01 03 08 09 10 13 15 16 17 19 42 44 52 5F 6C
VIN: WVWZZZAUZFW063529 Mileage: 45968km-28563miles
01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
13-Auto Dist. Reg -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
5F-Information Electr. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
6C-Back-up Cam. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
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Address 01: Engine (J623-CLHA) Labels:. 04L-907-309-V1.clb
Part No SW: 04L 906 021 M HW: 04L 907 309 B
Component: R4 1,6L EDC H22 5517
Revision: 84H22---
Coding: 01110012034505092000
Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM16TDI01104L906021M 002009
ROD: EV_ECM16TDI01104L906021P.rod
VCID: 2F381B8A979EE0AFD8D-807A
No fault code found.
Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0
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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104) Labels:. 5Q0-907-379-IPB-V1.clb
Part No SW: 5Q0 907 379 CK HW: 5Q0 907 379 G
Component: ESC H31 0472
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 62386000000027
Coding: 01FA8AA11426096F037C060241CC2580512890C06082A4F3F440F078C002
Shop #: WSC 131071 1023 2097151
ASAM Dataset: EV_Brake1UDSContiMK100IPB 033001
ROD: EV_Brake1UDSContiMK100IPB_033_VW37.rod
VCID: 0748932A5FAE98EF30D-8052
No fault code found.
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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J301) Labels:| 5G0-907-426.clb
Part No SW: 5G0 907 426 Q HW: 5G0 907 426 Q
Component: AC Manuell H02 0907
Revision: 00001K06
Coding: 00120104202100001000000000000000
Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
ASAM Dataset: EV_ACManueBHBVW37X 003019
ROD: EV_ACManueBHBVW37X_003_VW37.rod
VCID: 392C25D259DA3E1F769-806C
Fresh Air Blower Front:
Refrigerant Pressure And Temperature Sender:
No fault code found.
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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519) Labels:| 5Q0-937-08X-MV1.clb
Part No SW: 5Q0 937 084 AG HW: 5Q0 937 084 AG
Component: BCM MQBAB M H18 0134
Serial number: 01011419800065
Coding: 03000842C241027B0BA44080B10403281000000000000000000000000000
Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
ASAM Dataset: EV_BCMCONTI 013000
ROD: EV_BCMBOSCH_013.rod
VCID: 7DA4F1C20D72C23F1A1-8028
Control Unit For Wiper Motor:
Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5G2 955 119 A HW: 5G2 955 119 A Labels: 5QX-955-119-V1.CLB
Component: WWS 140710 042 0551
Serial number: 140712045121
Coding: 0E4DDD
Rain Light Recognition Sensor:
Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5Q0 955 559 A HW: 5Q0 955 559 A Labels: 5Q0-955-547.CLB
Component: RLS 037 0059
Serial number: S3Y14M07D24H06M32S31
Coding: 00A8DD
Sensor For Anti Theft Alarm System:
Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 5Q0 951 172 HW: 5Q0 951 172
Component: Sensor, DWA 005 0315
Serial number: 000000000ZY1416330NQ
Alarm horn:
Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 5Q0 951 605 HW: 5Q0 951 605
Component: Sirene, DWA 004 0311
Serial number: 00000000000030073175
No fault code found.
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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J791) Labels:| 5Q0-919-294.clb
Part No SW: 5Q0 919 294 E HW: 5Q0 919 294 A
Component: PARKHILFE 8K H03 0048
Revision: -------- Serial number: 39331419901969
Coding: 0071151001
Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
ASAM Dataset: EV_EPHVA18AU3700000 002024
ROD: EV_EPHVA18AU3700000_002_VW27.rod
VCID: 3D2431C24DF2023F5A1-8068
No fault code found.
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Address 13: Auto Dist. Reg (J428) Labels:| 5Q0-907-572-V1.clb
Part No SW: 5Q0 907 572 D HW: 5Q0 907 572 D
Component: ACC Bosch MQB H05 0304
Serial number: 18071476510203
Coding: 00000300FE0739
Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
ASAM Dataset: EV_ACCMRRBoschVW372 001015
ROD: EV_ACCMRRBoschVW372_VW26.rod
VCID: 382A20D662D02717897-806C
No fault code found.
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Address 15: Airbags (J234) Labels:| 5Q0-959-655.clb
Part No SW: 5Q0 959 655 AA HW: 5Q0 959 655 AA
Component: AirbagVW20 014 0386
Serial number: 003MLR0796S.
Coding: 98CCC000000000005C0000CF00C800000065
Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW20SMEVW37X 002130
ROD: EV_AirbaVW20SMEVW37X_VW37.rod
VCID: 7F580BCA077ED02F08D-802A
Belt Pretensioner left:
Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5G0 980 945 B HW: 5G0 980 945 B
Component: BeltPretRevFL H35 0341
Serial number: 34169677B18071470845
Coding: 333135
Belt Pretensioner right:
Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5G0 980 946 B HW: 5G0 980 946 B
Component: BeltPretRevFR H35 0341
Serial number: 34169676B22071441063
Coding: 333135
Side Sensor Driver Front:
Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: ----------- HW: 480 002 107 14
Component: SideSensor_Df 001 0887
Serial number: 357670000009E46DA01%
Coding: 2D2D2D
Side Sensor Passenger Front:
Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: ----------- HW: 480 002 107 14
Component: SideSensor_Pf 001 0887
Serial number: 3586700000079C61301P
Coding: 2D2D2D
Side Sensor Driver Rear:
Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: ----------- HW: 480 401 707 14
Component: SideSensor_Dr 001 6149
Serial number: 3516502BF15F3C32C17N
Coding: 2D2D2D
Side Sensor Passenger Rear:
Subsystem 6 - Part No SW: ----------- HW: 480 401 707 14
Component: SideSensor_Pr 001 6149
Serial number: 3526502AB15F3C34C23I
Coding: 2D2D2D
Front Sensor Driver:
Subsystem 7 - Part No SW: ----------- HW: 480 401 707 14
Component: FrontSensor_D 001 6149
Serial number: 3556502A515F3C328318
Coding: 2D2D2D
No fault code found.
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Address 16: Steering wheel (J527) Labels:| 5Q0-953-549.clb
Part No SW: 5Q0 953 507 DD HW: 5Q0 953 549 C
Component: Lenks. Modul 002 0110
Revision: -------- Serial number: 21071404400531
Coding: 0C00
Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
ASAM Dataset: EV_SMLSKLOMQB 017001
ROD: EV_SMLSKLOMQB_013_AU37.rod
VCID: 7BA0FFDA1366CC0F245-802E
No fault code found.
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Address 17: Instruments (J285) Labels:| 5G0-920-XXX-17.clb-SRI3
Part No SW: 5G1 920 941 HW: 5G1 920 941
Component: KOMBI 204 4270
Coding: 27A51A002780260001887A011400000000000000
Shop #: WSC 12345 102 209715
ASAM Dataset: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB 009037
ROD: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB_009_VW37.rod
VCID: 6696BEAE78E461E7EBB-8032
No fault code found.
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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533) Labels:| 5Q0-907-530-V1.clb
Part No SW: 5Q0 907 530 T HW: 5Q0 907 530 F
Component: GW MQB High 128 1188
Revision: -------- Serial number: 0002258229
Coding: 030100040B087300EF00005C080F00010001050000000000000000000000
Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
ASAM Dataset: EV_GatewLear 011016
ROD: EV_GatewLear_011_VW37.rod
VCID: 42DE423E340C7DC7273-8016
Alternator:
Multi Function Steering Wheel Control Module:
Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5G0 959 442 K HW: 5G0 959 442 K Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
Component: E221__MFL-DC1 H16 0038
Serial number: 27140001791070034295
Coding: 2CFFFF
Battery Monitoring Control Module:
Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 5Q0 915 181 E HW: 5Q0 915 181 E
Component: J367-BDMHella H03 8043
Serial number: 0087543903
1 Fault Found:
15360512 - Component Protection
U1101 00 [009] - Active
Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 4
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 1
Mileage: 45794 km
Date: 2018.05.17
Time: 18:18:31
Supply voltage: Terminal 30: 12.0 V
Terminal 15: On
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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386) Labels:| 5QX-959-X93-42.clb
Part No SW: 5Q0 959 593 B HW: 5Q0 959 593 B
Component: TSG FS 020 0025
Serial number: 13071402090651
Coding: 00110220D001048000001000
Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
ASAM Dataset: EV_DCUDriveSideEWMAXKLO 006003
ROD: EV_DCUDriveSideEWMAXCONT.rod
VCID: 40DA48363A006FD7317-8014
Drivers Door Rear Control Module:
Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5Q0 959 812 A HW: 5Q0 959 812 A Labels: 5QX-959-81X-V1.CLB
Component: FOND_FHSG_DRV 005 0005
Serial number: 00000000000003258255
Coding: 1D0000
No fault code found.
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Address 44: Steering Assist (J500) Labels:| 5Q0-909-144.clb
Part No SW: 5Q0 909 144 P HW: 5Q0 909 144 P
Component: EPS_MQB_ZFLS 122 1043
Coding: 8103
Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
ASAM Dataset: EV_SteerAssisMQB 010031
ROD: EV_SteerAssisMQB_010.rod
VCID: 41DC4D32310A66DF3E9-8014
No fault code found.
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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387) Labels:| 5QX-959-X92-52.clb
Part No SW: 5Q0 959 592 B HW: 5Q0 959 592 B
Component: TSG BFS 020 0025
Serial number: 12071401100511
Coding: 00110020DE01048000801000
Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
ASAM Dataset: EV_DCUPasseSideEWMAXKLO 006003
ROD: EV_DCUPasseSideEWMAXCONT.rod
VCID: 3FD84BCA47FE102F48D-806A
Passengers Rear Door Control Module:
Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5Q0 959 811 A HW: 5Q0 959 811 A Labels: 5QX-959-81X-V1.CLB
Component: FOND_FHSG_PSG 005 0005
Serial number: 00000000000003351145
Coding: 050000
No fault code found.
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Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794) Labels: None
Part No SW: 3G0 000 021 D HW: 3G0 035 021 E
Component: MU-H-LND-EU 053 0814
Serial number: A710A0XX002969
Coding: 02730001FF00000051111101008808001F0404D40120010097
Shop #: WSC 00046 123 12345
ASAM Dataset: EV_MUHig6C3Gen2HBAS 001115
ROD: N/A
VCID: 117CBD7221EAD65FEE9-8044
Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5G0 919 606 HW: 5G0 919 606
Component: ABT_High H42 0022
Serial number: VWZ8Z9M23009SW
Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: V03 959 800 QQ HW: -----------
Component: ECE 2017 --- 0157
Serial number: --------------------
Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: V03 959 800 EG HW: -----------
Component: Gracenote2--- --- 1015
Serial number: --------------------
No ASAM data for: "EV_MUHig6C3Gen2HBAS" (VW37)
3 Faults Found:
1555 - ROD - Unknown Error Code
- 00 [009]
Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 6
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 1
Mileage: 45794 km
Date: 2018.05.17
Time: 18:13:08
15360512 - ROD - Unknown Error Code
- 00 [009]
Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 4
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 1
Mileage: 45794 km
Date: 2018.05.17
Time: 18:13:03
2571 - ROD - Unknown Error Code
- 00 [009]
Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 6
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 1
Mileage: 45794 km
Date: 2018.05.17
Time: 18:13:03
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Address 6C: Back-up Cam. (J772) Labels:| 5Q0-980-556.clb
Part No SW: 5Q0 980 556 B HW: 5Q0 980 556 B
Component: RVC Compact H12 0231
Coding: 01730201C2002017000040
Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
ASAM Dataset: EV_CamSysRVRVCPANAMQBAB 006009
ROD: EV_CamSysRVRVCPANAMQBAB_006_VW37.rod
VCID: 392C25D259DA3E1F769-806C
2 Faults Found:
10489856 - No Basic Setting
B2010 00 [009] - -
[RearView system not calibrated]
Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 5
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 3
Mileage: 45968 km
Date: 2018.05.18
Time: 19:41:45
passive
13705478 - Databus
U1121 00 [009] - Missing Message
[message Parkhilfe_01 not received]
Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 6
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 3
Mileage: 45968 km
Date: 2018.05.18
Time: 19:41:46
passive
End----------(Elapsed Time: 01:41, VBatt start/end: 12.2V/12.2V)-----------
Thanks again.
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Ross-Tech Employee
Problem found, the fix was accidentally removed during a related change. Fixed permanently now, I'll make a revised version/update available next week.
Sebastian @ Ross-Tech.com
// VCDS Rookie since 2003
»Nichts erweitert das eigene Wissen mehr,
als die Meinung eines Andersdenkenden.«
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Thanks for the swift response, glad to hear you've found it!
I'll let you know how I get on when the new update is out