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    I just tried the battery idea, but it didn't work. I cannot code the CCM at all. Same error.
    Maybe there is another module that is also different that is preventing the CCM from being coded?

    Is there a database of stock VW model Autoscans? I'd like to find a 2008 MK5 VW GTI USA Autocan that I can compare all modules with our Canadian GTI... just in case there are more differences than the -CT on the CCM.

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    Per the Ross Tech wiki at - http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index..._System#Coding

    Maybe using the original coding is not possible since the part number is different on the CCMs.

    Replacement
    Make sure all vehicle remotes are present.
    Run and save a complete Auto-Scan and save it prior to module removal. See the Online Manual Auto-Scan.
    Code the module with the Long Coding from the original module found in the Auto-Scan.
    Note: If the new module is not the same part number it may use a longer coding scheme than the original module. If registered users need assistance configuring the new coding they can send the before and after replacement Auto-Scans to Support for assistance.
    Disable Factory Mode
    Remote Control Matching
    Vehicles with the diagnostic capable Address [65] - Tire Pressure Monitoring will need configured next.
    Code the TPMS module with the original coding from the saved Auto-Scan.
    Enter the Security Access and Adapt the Specified Pressure as per the vehicle label.
    Refer to this Tech Tip if the TPMS system does not learn the wheel sensor ID after a short drive.
    Clear all fault codes and verify all comfort functions and lighting are working as per design.

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    Well, nothing I do seems to allow it to work properly, error 22. There is a portion of the CCM coding that states "Rear Power Windows" (assumed from Jetta). I cannot even turn that off. Guessing that the CCM has some hard coding that needs to be flashed/firmware or something.

    Anyway, I decided to purchase another $28 CCM that is said to be from a GTI MK5.

    Hope it works when I receive it.

    I did happen to connect with somebody on FB about whether or not the MK5 has TPMS receivers in the wheel wells (or elsewhere). The person stated that he was fairly certain that the central locking antennas are what is used for the TPMS sensor communication.
    Can anybody else confirm this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duck dive View Post
    Well, nothing I do seems to allow it to work properly, error 22. There is a portion of the CCM coding that states "Rear Power Windows" (assumed from Jetta). I cannot even turn that off. Guessing that the CCM has some hard coding that needs to be flashed/firmware or something.

    Anyway, I decided to purchase another $28 CCM that is said to be from a GTI MK5.

    Hope it works when I receive it.
    Hope it does too. I've been following your thread with interest, not ignoring, but I don't have further sage advice with your current CCM. I'm not sure of its origin, and there may be something about its current coding that's hard to undo. For a used CCM, it would indeed be ideal if you got one out of a car model that matches your own.

    Edit: I'd reiterate you probably need to disable your ABS-based indirect TPMS, if you haven't already. Don't recall seeing confirmation of that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Duck dive View Post
    I did happen to connect with somebody on FB about whether or not the MK5 has TPMS receivers in the wheel wells (or elsewhere). The person stated that he was fairly certain that the central locking antennas are what is used for the TPMS sensor communication.
    Can anybody else confirm this?
    It's true. I can't give you a direct link here, but if you Google for "VW Self-Study Program 861603" about VW's TPMS implementation of that era, you'll find a very educational document that explains all about how it works. Your system is the one without wheel position recognition.
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    I have received the GTI CCM (-CT USA based) and I can save to install, and I can save long coding.

    Following the install, the TPMS in 19-CAN is on, and 65-TPMS show up with "sporadic comm error" (assuming no sensors).

    But, now the door / key FOB does not unlock doors, and the trunk and fuel hatch on the door do not work either. Any thoughts on that? FOB I seem to recall seeing somebody mention something about learning, but I'll have to research. I guess the good news is that I can now make coding changes and TPMS is listed.

    Jyoung8607 - and to confirm "Your system is the one without wheel position recognition" means that there is no other in body/wheel well sensor/receiver required (other than tire stem sensor)?

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    Well, hit another snag now. After the swap, I was able to enable TPMS and change long coding.
    But now, I cannot connect to the CCM (newest -CT USA).

    Here is latest autoscan (please note that in my original autoscan with -CA CCM Canada that there were some errors)

    Code:
    Friday,14,September,2018,14:00:09:15635
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
    VCDS Version: 18.2.1.5 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4411.4
    Data version: 20180518 DS287.2
    www.Ross-Tech.com
    
    
    VIN: WVWEV71K88W168445   License Plate: 
    Mileage: 111840km-69494mi   Repair Order: -ct gti 091418 not connecting
    
    
    
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    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    
    Chassis Type: 1K (1K0)
    Scan: 01 03 08 09 0F 15 16 17 19 1C 25 42 44 46 52 55 56
    
    VIN: WVWEV71K88W168445   Mileage: 111840km-69494miles
    
    01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
    04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    0F-Digital Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    16-Steering wheel -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    17-Instruments -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    1C-Position Sensing -- Status: OK 0000
    25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
    42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    46-Central Conv. -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
    52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000
    56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine        Labels:. 06F-907-115-AXX.clb
       Part No SW: 1K0 907 115 S    HW: 8P0 907 115 B
       Component: 2.0l R4/4V TFSI     0020  
       Revision: 5BH16---    Serial number: VWX7Z0GN3N67YR
       Coding: 0403010A18070160
       Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
       VCID: 363525885444AC879B8-8062
    
    1 Fault Found:
    008577 - Performance Malfunction in Cooling System 
                   P2181 - 008 - 
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01101000
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 2
                        Reset counter: 255
                        Mileage: 106103 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2000.00.00
                        Time: 02:03:52
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        RPM: 1940 /min
                        Load: 36.5 %
                        Speed: 17.0 km/h
                        Temperature: 72.0∞C
                        Temperature: 35.0∞C
                        Absolute Pres.: 1000.0 mbar
                        Voltage: 14.224 V
    
    Readiness: 0000 0000
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK60-F.lbl
       Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 AC    HW: 1K0 907 379 AC
       Component: ESP FRONT MK60      0101  
       Revision: 00H11001    
       Coding: 0021122
       Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
       VCID: 73B3DC9C07B6F9AF7C6-8026
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 1K0-907-044.lbl
       Part No SW: 1K0 907 044 CQ    HW: 1K0 907 044 CQ
       Component: ClimatronicPQ35 130 1212  
       Revision: 00130022    Serial number: 00000000000000
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 78A9EBB01ED09AF7494-802C
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels:. 3C0-937-049-30-H.lbl
       Part No SW: 3C0 937 049 AJ    HW: 3C0 937 049 AJ
       Component: Bordnetz-SG     H54 2202  
       Revision: 00H54000    Serial number: 01000007715840
       Coding: 178D8F214004150047140000001400000028770B5C000100000000000000
       Shop #: WSC 91511 999 72883
       VCID: 71BFD6947DAACBBF8EA-8024
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K1 955 119 E  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
       Component: Wischer 071107 021  0501  
       Coding: 00038805
       Shop #: WSC 91511  
    
    1 Fault Found:
    01330 - Central Control Module for Central Convenience (J393) 
                004 - No Signal/Communication
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01100100
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 217
                        Mileage: 111845 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2005.09.13
                        Time: 31:63:63
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                            ON
                        Voltage: 12.15 V
                            ON
                            ON
                            OFF
                            OFF
                            OFF
    
    
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    Address 0F: Digital Radio        Labels: 8E0-035-593-SIR.lbl
       Part No SW: 8E0 035 593 H    HW: 8E0 035 593 H
       Component: SDAR SIRIUS     H06 0080  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: AUZ4Z7G0179201
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 2E050DE8AC149447D38-807A
    
    1 Fault Found:
    02635 - Tuner Not Enabled/Activated 
                000 -  - 
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01100000
                        Fault Priority: 7
                        Fault Frequency: 21
                        Reset counter: 190
                        Mileage: 111272 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2000.00.00
                        Time: 18:27:15
    
    
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    Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 1K0-909-605.lbl
       Part No SW: 1K0 909 605 AB    HW: 1K0 909 605 AB
       Component: 6L AIRBAG VW8R  034 8000  
       Revision: 05034000    Serial number: 003B6D09VZWB  
       Coding: 0013900
       Shop #: WSC 01269 785 00200
       VCID: 6C81C7E05A882657BDC-8038
    
       Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 6332MSME315748627
    
       Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6342MSME31530F087
    
       Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6352QSME42232131 
    
       Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6362QSME446E0A0FV
    
       Subsystem 5 - Serial number: 63727SME107C4807%
    
       Subsystem 6 - Serial number: 63827SME0F1F2E61F
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
       Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 BD    HW: 1K0 953 549 BD
       Component: J0527           036 0070  
       Coding: 0002022
       Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
       VCID: 75B7E28409C2E79F522-8020
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX 
       Component: E0221           002 0010
    
    1 Fault Found:
    00883 - Ignition Switch (D) Terminal S 
                012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent
    
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    Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-17.lbl
       Part No SW: 1K6 920 874 A    HW: 1K6 920 874 A
       Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT VDD 1216  
       Revision: V0002000    Serial number: VWX7Z0GN3N67YR
       Coding: 0007303
       Shop #: WSC 19410 444 98964
       VCID: 313F1694BD2A8BBFCEA-8064
    
    1 Fault Found:
    01330 - Central Control Module for Central Convenience (J393) 
                004 - No Signal/Communication
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01100100
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 217
                        Mileage: 111845 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2000.00.00
                        Time: 00:17:08
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels:. 1K0-907-530-V3.clb
       Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 L    HW: 1K0 907 951 
       Component: J533__Gateway   H15 0180  
       Revision:   H15       Serial number: 1400K07A27014F
       Coding: E9811F060013020000
       Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
       VCID: 30391390B62082B7C14-8064
    
    2 Faults Found:
    01325 - Control Module for Tire Pressure Monitoring (J502) 
                004 - No Signal/Communication
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01100100
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 217
                        Mileage: 111845 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2000.00.00
                        Time: 00:17:10
    
    01330 - Central Control Module for Central Convenience (J393) 
                004 - No Signal/Communication
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01100100
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 217
                        Mileage: 111845 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2000.00.00
                        Time: 00:17:11
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 1C: Position Sensing        Labels: 1Kx-919-xxx-1C.lbl
       Part No SW: 1K6 919 879     HW: 1K6 919 879 
       Component: Kompass         001 0003  
       Revision: 00001000    Serial number: 1225223T28PM03
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 7DA7FAA431F2BFDF1A2-8028
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 25: Immobilizer        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
       Part No SW: 1K6 920 874 A    HW: 1K6 920 874 A
       Component: IMMO            VDD 1216  
       Revision: V0002000    Serial number: VWX7Z0GN3N67YR
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 313F1694BD2A8BBFCEA-8064
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels:. 1K0-959-701-MIN3.clb
       Part No SW: 1K0 959 701 M    HW: 1K0 959 701 M
       Component: Tuer-SG         006 1207  
       Coding: 0001077
       Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
       VCID: 38292BB05E505AF7894-806C
    
    1 Fault Found:
    01330 - Central Control Module for Central Convenience (J393) 
                004 - No Signal/Communication
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1Kx-909-144-G2V3.clb
       Part No: 1K1 909 144 M
       Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.074 H08 1901  
       Shop #: WSC 00000 028 00001
       VCID: 353722844942A79F922-8060
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 46: Central Conv.
    Cannot be reached
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels:. 1K0-959-702-MIN3.clb
       Part No SW: 1K0 959 702 M    HW: 1K0 959 702 M
       Component: Tuer-SG         006 1207  
       Coding: 0001076
       Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
       VCID: 392F2EB4655A43FF76A-806C
    
    1 Fault Found:
    01330 - Central Control Module for Central Convenience (J393) 
                004 - No Signal/Communication
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 55: Headlight Range        Labels: 1T0-907-357.lbl
       Part No: 1T0 907 357 
       Component: Dynamische LWR      0003  
       Coding: 0000003
       Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
       VCID: 74B1DF8002B8FE9765C-8020
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 56: Radio        Labels: 1K0-035-1xx-56.lbl
       Part No SW: 1K0 035 180 L    HW: 1K0 035 180 L
       Component: Radio PM6       130 0037  
       Revision: 00130000    Serial number: VWZ5Z7I2297042
       Coding: 0040401
       Shop #: WSC 39612 828 149130
       VCID: 290FFEF495FAF37F06A-807C
    
    No fault code found.
    
    End----------(Elapsed Time: 01:01, VBatt start/end: 12.2V/12.2V)-----------
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    Do you think it is possible that the Ignition Switch error could be causing any issues?
    Or maybe that I put the original coding into the new CCM?

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    I'm sorry I don't have any advice to give either, but I want to say thanks for the link up in the beginning of the thread about enabling indirect tpms.

    My 07 jetta, I previously disabled the active tpms due to wheel changes (and unfortunately the OEM wheels are gone and took the OEM sensors with them).

    I hated not having tpms since the car is only occasionally driven and not always by someone who checks the tires before driving, and run the risk of damaging the current wheels/tires.

    I'll continue to keep an eye on it, but the indirect tpms seems to be working now.

    I do have a question, there are any number of 3rd party TPMS systems that can be added, would they not suffice or be authorized for your import process?

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    The use of third party is not allowed per the written regulation, but I've heard of Customs having some discretion... I didn't realize I'd run into so many issues with this.

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    If i understand right, is that after putting Your original coding to Your new CCM, CCM stopped communicating?

    Perhaps try now again battery reboot, perhaps check fuses(We never know).

    Other than that i have no idea why would CCM stop communicating after Coding is applied. ... Confused ...
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