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    Quote Originally Posted by golfi_vend View Post
    Sorry, but i always wanted to do this
    I try to avoid shooting newbies, particularly ones that may have language barriers, but I'm keeping this on file for repeat offenders.

    Jason

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    Quote Originally Posted by kimbr View Post
    Hi.
    Here you have a full scan before and after with 14.8.1 beta.
    The steering wheel coding is ok, I have already change the coding there.

    I changed the coding from 02250032240401082000 to 02250032242401082000 in engine, as you suggested.

    Before:
    Code:
    Address 01: Engine (J623-CYVB)       Labels: None
       Part No SW: 04E 906 027 CJ    HW: 04E 907 309 AF
       Component: 1.2l R4 TSI   H21 7798  
       Revision: R5H21---    
       Coding: 02250032240401082000
       Shop #: WSC 06314 790 00021
       ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM12TFS01104E906027CJ 001005
       ROD: EV_ECM12TFS01104E906027CJ.rod
       VCID: 6EFD1B31B196504A3B-803B
    
    No fault code found.
    Readiness: 0000 0000
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels: 5Q0-953-549.clb
       Part No SW: 8V0 953 521 BM    HW: 5Q0 953 549 C
       Component: Lenks. Modul  002 0110  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 02071404400972
       Coding: A418
       Shop #: WSC 06314 790 00021
       ASAM Dataset: EV_SMLSKLOMQB 017001
       ROD: EV_SMLSKLOMQB_AU37.rod
       VCID: 062D4391B926780AE3-8053
    
    No fault code found.
    After:
    Code:
    Address 01: Engine (J623-CYVB)       Labels: None
       Part No SW: 04E 906 027 CJ    HW: 04E 907 309 AF
       Component: 1.2l R4 TSI   H21 7798  
       Revision: R5H21---    
       Coding: 02250032242401082000
       Shop #: WSC 06314 790 00021
       ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM12TFS01104E906027CJ 001005
       ROD: EV_ECM12TFS01104E906027CJ.rod
       VCID: 6EFD1B31B196504A3B-803B
    
    2 Faults Found:
    17158 - Databus 
              U1123 00 [039] - Received Error Message
    
    17149 - Check Coding of ECUs on Powertrain Data Bus 
              P1647 00 [167] - -
    
    Readiness: 0000 0000
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels: 5Q0-953-549.clb
       Part No SW: 8V0 953 521 BM    HW: 5Q0 953 549 C
       Component: Lenks. Modul  002 0110  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 02071404400972
       Coding: A418
       Shop #: WSC 06314 790 00021
       ASAM Dataset: EV_SMLSKLOMQB 017001
       ROD: EV_SMLSKLOMQB_AU37.rod
       VCID: 062D4391B926780AE3-8053
    
    No fault code found.
    I looked through each of the scans but I wasn't able to spot a discrepancy. I however am not entirely sure if the new #16 module coding -or- #01 module coding directly caused the new faults.

    What was the original (pre-retrofit) coding of #16?

    If you code #16 back to the original value with the new (CCS) #01 coding and clear faults, do any of those reoccur?

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    I removed the coding for CCS in #16, and entered your coding in #01, but I got the same error and fault codes.
    I'm pretty sure the coding in #16 is correct, since there is a drop down menu there, where I choose the correct CCS.

    It seems to me the new coding for #01 is wrong, and has something to do with the start/stop function.
    Since I get this error with the start/stop function in the instruments panel, and fault codes in #01 and #03 when I change it.

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    01-Engine
    As far as I can tell the new 01 coding includes Cruise Control System (CCS - PR-8T2/8T6) installed and the old coding was Cruise Control System (CCS - PR-8T0) NOT installed. I do not have any alternative coding function suggestions.

    It looks like this controller supports Adaptation (or Long Adaptation) function: Activation of start-stop function so I would make sure it is ON/Activated with each 01 coding variant to rule out a conflict.

    16-Steering Wheel
    I'm not entirely clear on the original, or pre-retrofit, coding of 16. If you already confirmed the wiring is present at the connector (to/from the engine and/or GAN GW, whichever this vehicle happens to use) and the Adv. measuring values/Adaptation channels with GRA or gra are reporting correctly I would like to believe it is correct.

    Side note; It looks like factory installed CCS via the MFSW in NAR market MQB models do not use coding modifications due to the addition of that function in the 19-CAN Gateway. Our MQB A3 scan collection is limited but CCS would be standard equipment on those as well.

    You may want to send this one to the dealer for SVM configuration. If you go that route please post the final scan so we can see what we missed!

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    Hello!

    I just finished using VCDS for the first time on my 8V A3. That was a lot of fun.

    Newbie question: do I need to buy anything to activate cruise control through multifunction steering wheel? I'm understanding that cruise control may be used through the MFSW. If so, can you guide me through the coding process? I saw the 5G coding page but didn't really understand it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by m_bolc View Post
    Hello!

    I just finished using VCDS for the first time on my 8V A3. That was a lot of fun.

    Newbie question: do I need to buy anything to activate cruise control through multifunction steering wheel? I'm understanding that cruise control may be used through the MFSW. If so, can you guide me through the coding process? I saw the 5G coding page but didn't really understand it.
    Hi,

    That depends on the factory wiring and installed module(s). Please post the complete Auto-Scan before any modifications here for review.

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    Hello Dana,

    Here is the auto scan:

    Code:
    Thursday,27,November,2014,18:12:27:29892
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator
    VCDS Version: 14.10.0.0 (x64)
    Data version: 20141022
    
    
    VIN: WAUZZZ8V2FA000583   License Plate: TBR043
    Mileage: 9198km-5715mi   Repair Order: 
    
    
    
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    
    Chassis Type: 8V (5Q0)
    Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 42 44 52 5F
    
    VIN: WAUZZZ8V2FA000583   Mileage: 9198km-5715miles
    
    01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
    42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
    44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
    5F-Information Electr. -- Status: OK 0000
     
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine (J623-CJZA)       Labels: 04E-907-309-V1.clb
       Part No SW: 04E 906 016 B    HW: 04E 907 309 A
       Component: 1.2l R4 TSI   H08 6387  
       Revision: WAH08---    
       Coding: 02110012230400082000
       Shop #: WSC 06314 790 00021
       ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM12TFS01104E906016B 001008
       ROD: EV_ECM12TFS01104E906016B.rod
       VCID: 2149CBAF30BD2E29405-8074
    
    No fault code found.
    Readiness: 0000 0000
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels: 5Q0-907-379.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 907 379 AA    HW: 5Q0 907 379 G
       Component: ESC           H31 0457  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 606040000015FD
       Coding: 10F16AA224200A6C017C060841C62508562450806082A4B2002100080608
       Shop #: WSC 06314 790 00021
       ASAM Dataset: EV_Brake1UDSContiMK100IPB 033001
       ROD: EV_Brake1UDSContiMK100IPB_AU37.rod
       VCID: 7BF5D9C7F291A4F93A9-802E
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 08: Auto HVAC (E87)       Labels: 8V0-820-047.clb
       Part No SW: 8V0 820 047 D    HW: 8V0 820 047 D
       Component: AC Manuell el H11 0052  
       Revision: 20021000    Serial number: 00000000054640
       Coding: 00000004100000000000000000000000
       Shop #: WSC 06314 790 00021
       ASAM Dataset: EV_AirCondiFrontManAU37X 008018
       ROD: EV_AirCondiFrontManAU37X.rod
       VCID: 377D05F78E3940999E1-8062
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels: 5Q0-937-08X-MV1.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 937 084 AC    HW: 5Q0 937 084 AC
       Component: BCM MQBAB M   H16 0124  
       Serial number: 00011406500433
       Coding: 04040842C001027D03044004B30407000000000000000000000000000000
       Shop #: WSC 06314 790 00021
       ASAM Dataset: EV_BCMCONTI 012001
       ROD: EV_BCMBOSCH_AU37.rod
       VCID: 79F9C3CFF8AD96E9285-802C
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8V1 955 119 A    HW: 8V1 955 119 
       Component: WWS370 140225  041 0580 
       Serial number:         140227184035
       Coding: 0A47F7
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8U0 955 559 A    HW: 8U0 955 559 A
       Component: G397_RLS  H06 0002 
       Serial number: 20143063            
       Coding: 06885D
    
       Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 8V0 941 531 Q    HW: 8V0 941 531 Q
       Component: E1 - LDS MQB  H05 0032 
       Serial number: 29 11 2013  00001158
    
       Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 8V0 951 177     HW: 5Q0 951 172 
       Component: Sensor, DWA  005 0315 
       Serial number: 000000000ZY140231TB1
    
       Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: 5Q0 951 605     HW: 5Q0 951 605 
       Component: Sirene, DWA  004 0311 
       Serial number: 00000000000058976888
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels: 5Q0-959-655.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 959 655 N    HW: 5Q0 959 655 N
       Component: AirbagVW20    011 0361  
       Serial number: 003M2R05LNY8
       Coding: 98CCC000000000005C540000004800000065
       Shop #: WSC 06314 790 00021
       ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW20SMEVW37X 002126
       ROD: EV_AirbaVW20SMEVW37X_AU37.rod
       VCID: 4B954907E2B1D479CA9-801E
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag; driver side: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 001 702 14
       Component: SideSensor_Df  001 0887 
       Serial number: 35767000000685500F0O
       Coding: 2D2D2D
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag; front passenger side: 
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 001 702 14
       Component: SideSensor_Pf  001 0887 
       Serial number: 35867000000885500F0R
       Coding: 2D2D2D
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag; rear; driver side: 
       Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 400 703 14
       Component: SideSensor_Dr  001 6149 
       Serial number: 35165029F14D3E72E40M
       Coding: 2D2D2D
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag; rear; passenger side: 
       Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 402 802 14
       Component: SideSensor_Pr  001 6149 
       Serial number: 3526502C112F6291710.
       Coding: 2D2D2D
    
       Crash sensor for front airbag; driver side: 
       Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 400 702 14
       Component: FrontSensor_D  001 6149 
       Serial number: 3556502C513013F3D10/
       Coding: 2D2D2D
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels: 5Q0-953-549.clb
       Part No SW: 8V0 953 521 BM    HW: 5Q0 953 549 C
       Component: Lenks. Modul  002 0110  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 07031404220752
       Coding: 0408
       Shop #: WSC 06314 790 00021
       ASAM Dataset: EV_SMLSKLOMQB 017001
       ROD: EV_SMLSKLOMQB_AU37.rod
       VCID: 0603B833B953E911557-8053
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels: 5G0-920-XXX-17.clb
       Part No SW: 8V0 920 860 E    HW: 8V0 920 860 E
       Component: KOMBI         H02 2220  
       Coding: 07850200228000080500BA00100000
       Shop #: WSC 06314 790 00021
       ASAM Dataset: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB 008031
       ROD: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB_AU37.rod
       VCID: 3C771ADBB71F63C1733-8069
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels: Redir Fail!
       Part No SW: 5Q0 907 530 P    HW: 5Q0 907 530 E
       Component: GW MQB Mid    124 1164  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 0001674704
       Coding: 01010008200864005B000208000B00000001000000000000000000000000
       Shop #: WSC 06314 790 00021
       ASAM Dataset: EV_GatewLear 010015
       ROD: EV_GatewLear.rod
       VCID: 3E7310D3A10371D15D7-806B
    
       Alternator: 
    
       Multifunction unit control module: 
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8U0 951 528     HW: 8U0 951 528 
       Component: E221 - MFL  H02 0014 
       Serial number: 20 02 2014  B1311502
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels: 5QX-959-X93-42.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 959 393 B    HW: 5Q0 959 393 B
       Component: TSG FS        020 0025  
       Serial number: 22021403110883
       Coding: 00100E20C100040100001002
       Shop #: WSC 06314 790 00021
       ASAM Dataset: EV_DCUDriveSideEWMINKLO 006003
       ROD: EV_DCUDriveSideEWMAXCONT.rod
       VCID: 3E7310D3A10371D15D7-806B
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 44: Steering Assist (J500)       Labels: 5Q0-909-144.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 909 144 P    HW: 5Q0 909 144 P
       Component: EPS_MQB_ZFLS  122 1043  
       Coding: 0102
       Shop #: WSC 06314 790 00021
       ASAM Dataset: EV_SteerAssisMQB 010031
       ROD: EV_SteerAssisMQB_AU37.rod
       VCID: 41896B2FD0FD0E29205-8014
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels: 5QX-959-X92-52.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 959 392 B    HW: 5Q0 959 392 B
       Component: TSG BFS       020 0025  
       Serial number: 04031403110700
       Coding: 00100620CD00040100001002
       Shop #: WSC 06314 790 00021
       ASAM Dataset: EV_DCUPasseSideEWMINKLO 006003
       ROD: EV_DCUPasseSideEWMAXCONT.rod
       VCID: 3D7117DFAC056AC944D-8068
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794)       Labels: None
       Part No SW: 8V0 035 840 B    HW: 8V0 035 840 B
       Component: MU-S--ER      040 0420  
       Serial number: A3E00403140672
       Coding: 01730000FF0A000021220001001A00002F0001440100010002
       Shop #: WSC 06314 790 00021
       ASAM Dataset: EV_MUStd6C3PASE 002020
       ROD: EV_MUStd6C3PASE.rod
       VCID: 346732FB9F4FAB81BB3-8061
    
       Seat Adjustment Driver Side: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8V0 919 603 C    HW: 8V0 919 603 C
       Component: DU Std  H49 0013 
       Serial number: AUZ8Z9DY301DHC      
    
       Sound System: 
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8V0 919 614 B    HW: 8V0 919 614 B
       Component: ControlUnit_B  H33 0037 
       Serial number: C1000019021400010341
    
    No fault code found.
    
    End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 02:47)--------------------------
    I'd like to know if there is a possibility to also enable start-stop.

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    No, you're missing too many vital components. So unless you plan on replacing a few control modules and add components to the car worth a 4 figure number of Euros's it's probably not worth it.
    Sebastian @ Ross-Tech.com // VCDS Rookie since 2003

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    als die Meinung eines Andersdenkenden.«

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    Has this retrofit coding been resolved and the cruise control worked?

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    Hello
    Does anyone already retrofitted cruise control to Audi A3 8V ?
    I saw that Audi sell it like control switch and activating document.
    Is there any way to activate without document ?
    (I already have switch installed :-/ )
    Thank you

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