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    Thank you for the reply Uwe makes things clearer now.

    right now it's just this single module on the test bench.

    Yes it will be multiple modules like ECU ABS etc.
    I have CAN matrix documentation for all the messages so i know all the details of the messages, that combined with a trace from a car enables me to simulate the module like the ECU and ABS.
    It would make it easier to know what module i am not simulating correctly if VCDS log tells me from which module the missing or implausible message is.

    Have to do more reading on UDS haven't done much with it yet.
    Is it possible that the Advances Measuring Values that are available in VCDS going to be expanded in updates?

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    Quote Originally Posted by golfi_vend View Post
    Why can't this be implented in vcds,?
    That's a very good question! Unfortunately, I don't have enough familiarity with the intricacies of the source data to be able to give you a meaningful answer.

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    The engineering problems are likely insurmountable. It would be like proposing to land a rocket booster section on a barge floating in the middle of the ocean.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeroenveer View Post
    Is it possible that the Advances Measuring Values that are available in VCDS going to be expanded in updates?
    I certainly won't say that it's impossible. But it all depends on what's available in the source data. Almost everything in a UDS module is "driven" by the data available for that module.

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    The engineering problems are likely insurmountable. It would be like proposing to land a rocket booster section on a barge floating in the middle of the ocean.

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    Code:
    16653 - Databus 
              U1121 00 [009] - Missing Message
    This one should be for the steering angle sensor.

    Still looking for the rest.

    -Uwe-
    The engineering problems are likely insurmountable. It would be like proposing to land a rocket booster section on a barge floating in the middle of the ocean.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeroenveer View Post
    is there any way to get some more information from this i tried to look for the number in front of the fault ( 16653, 16655 ) but i can't find any links on those.
    Here ya go:

    Code:
    16653 - Databus
              U1121 00 [009] - Missing Message
    Lenkwinkelsensor -TO -- LWL_01
    
    16655 - Databus
              U1121 00 [009] - Missing Message
    Bremsensteuergerät - TO -- ESP_02
    
    17468 - Databus
              U1121 00 [009] - Missing Message
    Bremsensteuergerät - TO -- ESP_05
    
    17495 - Databus
              U1121 00 [009] - Missing Message
    Bremsensteuergerät - TO -- ESP_07
    
    17471 - Databus
              U1121 00 [009] - Missing Message
    Bremsensteuergerät - TO -- ESP_14
    
    17469 - Databus
              U1121 00 [009] - Missing Message
    Bremsensteuergerät - TO -- ESP_19
    
    17470 - Databus
              U1121 00 [009] - Missing Message
    Bremsensteuergerät - TO -- ESP_21
    
    16657 - Databus
              U1121 00 [009] - Missing Message
    Motorsteuergerät - TO -- Mot_12
    
    17474 - Databus
              U1121 00 [009] - Missing Message
    Motorsteuergerät - TO -- Mot_14
    
    16727 - Databus
              U1121 00 [009] - Missing Message
    Motorsteuergerät - TO -- Mot_20
    Hat tip to Yanping for finding these, and yes, we are looking at putting this data in VCDS in a future version.

    -Uwe-
    The engineering problems are likely insurmountable. It would be like proposing to land a rocket booster section on a barge floating in the middle of the ocean.

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    Thank you Uwe for looking into it!

    very curious how you found it!?

    currently trying the simulation still no luck with any off the fault.

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    you posted just before i wrote my message.

    awesome very big thanks to both of you!

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    VCDS only shows max of 10 fault codes is this correct?

    Can confirm the codes below:
    Code:
    16653 - Databus
              U1121 00 [009] - Missing Message
    Lenkwinkelsensor -TO -- LWL_01
    
    16655 - Databus
              U1121 00 [009] - Missing Message
    Bremsensteuergerät - TO -- ESP_02
    
    17468 - Databus
              U1121 00 [009] - Missing Message
    Bremsensteuergerät - TO -- ESP_05
    
    17495 - Databus
              U1121 00 [009] - Missing Message
    Bremsensteuergerät - TO -- ESP_07

    Managed to clear the above with simulation and some new faults appear:
    Code:
    17501 - Databus 
              U1121 00 [009] - Missing Message
              Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
    
    17502 - Databus 
              U1121 00 [009] - Missing Message
              Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
    
    17472 - Databus 
              U1121 00 [009] - Missing Message
              Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
    
    17473 - Databus 
              U1121 00 [009] - Missing Message
              Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeroenveer View Post
    VCDS only shows max of 10 fault codes is this correct?
    Incorrect.
    Code:
    Address 01: Engine (J623-CPRA)       Labels:. 06K-907-425-V2.clb
       Part No SW: 06K 906 070 F    HW: 06K 907 425 
       Component: Simos12.2     H09 6865  
       Revision: --H09---    Serial number: 00000000000000
       Coding: 001A0012242400170000
       Shop #: WSC 00066 790 00012
       ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM18TFS02006K906070F 001010
       ROD: EV_ECM18TFS02006K906070F.rod
       VCID: 2D07F73BFD945999033F-8078
    
    49 Faults Found:
    19795 - EVAP System Leak Detection Pump Heater Control Circuit 
              P240A 00 [035] - Open Circuit
              Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
    
    19798 - Control Circuit for EVAP Vent Control 
              P0447 00 [035] - Open Circuit
              Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
    
    19791 - EVAP Leak Detection Pump Control Circuit 
              P2400 00 [035] - Malfunction
              Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
    
    14964 - Coolant Fan Control Circuit 1 
              P0480 00 [035] - Electrical Malfunction
              Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
    
    23096 - Intake Air Temp. Sensor (G42) 
              P0113 00 [035] - Signal too High
              Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
    
    15313 - Engine Coolant Temp. Sensor (G62) 
              P0118 00 [035] - Signal too High
              Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
    
    16837 - Engine Coolant Temp Sensor on Radiator Outlet (G83) 
              P2185 00 [035] - Signal too High
              Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
    
    21352 - Secondary. Air Inj. Sys. Flow/Pressure Sens Bank 1 
              P2432 00 [039] - Short to Ground
              Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Mileage: 48447 km
                        Date: 2000.00.00
                        Time: 00:00:00
    
                        Engine speed: 0.00 /min
                        Normed load value: 0.0 %
                        Vehicle speed: 255 km/h
                        Coolant temperature: -39 °C
                        Intake air temperature: -40 °C
                        Ambient air pressure: 0 mbar
                        Voltage terminal 30: 11.992 V
                        Unlearning counter according OBD: 40
                        Engine: operating status: ES
                        STATE_LS_SAE[1]: INI
                        T_AST_SAE: 0 s
                        MAP_MES_SAE: 0 kPa
                        Lambda probe voltage: bank 1: probe 1 (broadband probe): 2.065 V
                        FAC_TPS_1_SAE: 0.000000 %
                        FUP_H_SAE: 28000.0 kPa
    
    15219 - Accelerator Position Sensor (G79) 
              P2122 00 [167] - Signal too Low
              MIL ON - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Mileage: 48447 km
                        Date: 2000.00.00
                        Time: 00:00:00
    
                        Engine speed: 0.00 /min
                        Normed load value: 0.0 %
                        Vehicle speed: 255 km/h
                        Coolant temperature: -39 °C
                        Intake air temperature: -40 °C
                        Ambient air pressure: 1000 mbar
                        Voltage terminal 30: 11.992 V
                        Unlearning counter according OBD: 40
                        Engine: operating status: ES
                        STATE_LS_SAE[1]: INI
                        T_AST_SAE: 0 s
                        MAP_MES_SAE: 255 kPa
                        Lambda probe voltage: bank 1: probe 1 (broadband probe): 2.065 V
                        FAC_TPS_1_SAE: 0.000000 %
                        FUP_H_SAE: 28000.0 kPa
    
    15221 - Accelerator Position Sensor 2 (G185) 
              P2127 00 [167] - Signal too Low
              MIL ON - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Mileage: 48447 km
                        Date: 2000.00.00
                        Time: 00:00:00
    
                        Engine speed: 0.00 /min
                        Normed load value: 0.0 %
                        Vehicle speed: 255 km/h
                        Coolant temperature: -39 °C
                        Intake air temperature: -40 °C
                        Ambient air pressure: 1000 mbar
                        Voltage terminal 30: 11.992 V
                        Unlearning counter according OBD: 40
                        Engine: operating status: ES
                        STATE_LS_SAE[1]: INI
                        T_AST_SAE: 0 s
                        MAP_MES_SAE: 255 kPa
                        Lambda probe voltage: bank 1: probe 1 (broadband probe): 2.065 V
                        FAC_TPS_1_SAE: 0.000000 %
                        FUP_H_SAE: 28000.0 kPa
    
    17791 - Coolant Pump Control Circuit 
              P2600 00 [035] - Open
              Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
    
    23176 - Sensor for Ambient Air Temperature (G17) 
              P0070 00 [035] - Malfunction
              Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
    
    14995 - Fuel Pump Control Module 
              P025A 00 [035] - Electrical Fault
              Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
    
    15034 - Fuel Pressure Sensor (G247) 
              P0190 00 [035] - Circuit Malfunction
              Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
    
    15376 - Fuel Pressure Regulator Valve (N276) 
              P2294 00 [167] - Open Circuit
              MIL ON - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Mileage: 48447 km
                        Date: 2000.00.00
                        Time: 00:00:00
    
                        Engine speed: 0.00 /min
                        Normed load value: 0.0 %
                        Vehicle speed: 255 km/h
                        Coolant temperature: -39 °C
                        Intake air temperature: -40 °C
                        Ambient air pressure: 0 mbar
                        Voltage terminal 30: 11.992 V
                        Unlearning counter according OBD: 40
                        Engine: operating status: ES
                        STATE_LS_SAE[1]: INI
                        T_AST_SAE: 0 s
                        MAP_MES_SAE: 0 kPa
                        Lambda probe voltage: bank 1: probe 1 (broadband probe): 2.061 V
                        FAC_TPS_1_SAE: 0.000000 %
                        FUP_H_SAE: 28000.0 kPa
    
    15211 - Oile Pressure Regulating Valve 
              P164E 00 [035] - Electrical Malfunction
              Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
    
    15289 - Output for Starter Relay 
              P0615 00 [035] - Open Circuit
              Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
    
    15293 - Control Circuit for Starter Relay 2 
              P3049 00 [035] - Open Circuit
              Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
    
    14923 - Crash Shut-Down Activated 
              P1609 00 [168] - -
              MIL ON - Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Mileage: 48446 km
                        Date: 2024.14.11
                        Time: 23:15:26
    
    14969 - Radiator Fan (V7) 
              P1950 00 [096] - Movement Restricted / Jammed
              Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
    
    15131 - Cylinder 3 
              P0303 00 [096] - Misfire Detected
              Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
    
    15128 - Cylinder 2 
              P0302 00 [096] - Misfire Detected
              Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
    
    15137 - Random/Multiple Cylinder Misfire Detected 
              P0300 00 [096] - -
              Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
    
    15187 - Park/Neutral Switch Input Circuit 
              P0850 00 [035] - Open or Short to Plus
              Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
    
    15197 - Intake Manifold Flap Position Sensor (Bank 1) 
              P2014 00 [039] - Electrical Malfunction
              Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Mileage: 48447 km
                        Date: 2000.00.00
                        Time: 00:00:00
    
                        Engine speed: 0.00 /min
                        Normed load value: 0.0 %
                        Vehicle speed: 255 km/h
                        Coolant temperature: -39 °C
                        Intake air temperature: -40 °C
                        Ambient air pressure: 0 mbar
                        Voltage terminal 30: 12.031 V
                        Unlearning counter according OBD: 40
                        Engine: operating status: ES
                        STATE_LS_SAE[1]: INI
                        T_AST_SAE: 0 s
                        MAP_MES_SAE: 0 kPa
                        Lambda probe voltage: bank 1: probe 1 (broadband probe): 3.013 V
                        FAC_TPS_1_SAE: 0.000000 %
                        FUP_H_SAE: 28000.0 kPa
    
    19802 - EVAP System 
              P0457 00 [096] - Leak Detected  (Check Fuel Cap!)
              Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
    
    17753 - Implausible Data Received from HVAC Control Module (J301) 
              U0424 00 [035] - -
              Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
    
    14875 - No Communications with Airbag Control Module 
              U0151 00 [035] - -
              Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
    
    16499 - Steering Column Control Module 
              U0212 00 [035] - No Communications
              Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
    
    16790 - Implausible Data Received from Transmission Control Module 
              U0402 00 [035] - -
              Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
    
    16791 - Implausible Data Received from Instrument Panel Control Module 
              U0423 00 [035] - -
              Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
    
    16795 - Implausible Data Received from Transmission Control Module 
              U0402 00 [035] - -
              Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
    
    14898 - No Communications with Steering Angle Sender (G85) 
              U0126 00 [035] - -
              Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
    
    14906 - No Communication with ABS Brake Control Module 
              U0121 00 [035] - -
              Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
    
    16990 - Body Control Module (Central Electric) 
              U0140 00 [035] - No Communications
              Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
    
    15015 - Turbocharger Bypass Valve Control Circuit 
              P0033 00 [035] - Malfunction / Open Circuit
              Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
    
    16469 - Throttle Actuator Control Circuit 
              P2100 00 [167] - Open Circuit
              MIL ON - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Mileage: 48447 km
                        Date: 2000.00.00
                        Time: 00:00:00
    
                        Engine speed: 0.00 /min
                        Normed load value: 0.0 %
                        Vehicle speed: 255 km/h
                        Coolant temperature: -39 °C
                        Intake air temperature: -40 °C
                        Ambient air pressure: 1000 mbar
                        Voltage terminal 30: 11.992 V
                        Unlearning counter according OBD: 40
                        Engine: operating status: ES
                        STATE_LS_SAE[1]: INI
                        T_AST_SAE: 0 s
                        MAP_MES_SAE: 255 kPa
                        Lambda probe voltage: bank 1: probe 1 (broadband probe): 2.065 V
                        FAC_TPS_1_SAE: 0.000000 %
                        FUP_H_SAE: 28000.0 kPa
    
    17758 - Implausible Data Received from Transmission Control Module 
              U0402 00 [035] - -
              Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
    
    15113 - Oxygen (Lambda) Sensor B1 S2: Heating Circuit 
              P0036 00 [035] - Malfunction / Open Circuit
              Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
    
    15116 - Oxygen (Lambda) Sensor B1 S1: Heating Circuit 
              P0030 00 [035] - Malfunction / Open Circuit
              Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
    
    15120 - Manifold / Barometric Pressure Sensor (G71) / (F96) 
              P0108 00 [035] - Signal too High
              Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
    
    15212 - Manifold Pressure / Boost Sensor (G31) 
              P0238 00 [035] - Signal too High
              Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
    
    15270 - Camshaft Timing Adj. Bank1 (N205) 
              P1528 00 [035] - Open Circuit
              Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
    
    17759 - Implausible Data Received from Transmission Control Module 
              U0402 00 [035] - -
              Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
    
    24558 - Implausible Data Received from Instrument Panel Control Module 
              U0423 00 [035] - -
              Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
    
    16807 - Implausible Data Received from Transmission Control Module 
              U0402 00 [035] - -
              Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
    
    15423 - Turbocharger Boost Control Position Sensor Circuit 
              P2565 00 [167] - Signal too High
              MIL ON - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Mileage: 48447 km
                        Date: 2000.00.00
                        Time: 00:00:00
    
                        Engine speed: 0.00 /min
                        Normed load value: 0.0 %
                        Vehicle speed: 255 km/h
                        Coolant temperature: -39 °C
                        Intake air temperature: -40 °C
                        Ambient air pressure: 0 mbar
                        Voltage terminal 30: 11.992 V
                        Unlearning counter according OBD: 40
                        Charge air pressure control valve uncond voltage sensor: 4.9902 V
                        Charge air pressure control valve voltage: position closed: 3.6621 V
                        Charge air pressure control valve activation pulse duty factor: 0.00 %
                        Charge air pressure control valve position: actual value: 0.00 %
                        Charge air pressure control valve position: target value: 0.00 %
    
    15338 - Throttle Position Sensor (G69) 
              P0122 00 [167] - Signal too Low
              MIL ON - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Mileage: 48447 km
                        Date: 2000.00.00
                        Time: 00:00:00
    
                        Engine speed: 0.00 /min
                        Normed load value: 0.0 %
                        Vehicle speed: 255 km/h
                        Coolant temperature: -39 °C
                        Intake air temperature: -40 °C
                        Ambient air pressure: 1000 mbar
                        Voltage terminal 30: 11.992 V
                        Unlearning counter according OBD: 40
                        Engine: operating status: ES
                        STATE_LS_SAE[1]: INI
                        T_AST_SAE: 0 s
                        MAP_MES_SAE: 255 kPa
                        Lambda probe voltage: bank 1: probe 1 (broadband probe): 2.065 V
                        FAC_TPS_1_SAE: 0.000000 %
                        FUP_H_SAE: 28000.0 kPa
    
    15340 - Angle Sensor 2 for Throttle (G188) 
              P0222 00 [167] - Signal Too Low
              MIL ON - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Mileage: 48447 km
                        Date: 2000.00.00
                        Time: 00:00:00
    
                        Engine speed: 0.00 /min
                        Normed load value: 0.0 %
                        Vehicle speed: 255 km/h
                        Coolant temperature: -39 °C
                        Intake air temperature: -40 °C
                        Ambient air pressure: 1000 mbar
                        Voltage terminal 30: 11.992 V
                        Unlearning counter according OBD: 40
                        Engine: operating status: ES
                        STATE_LS_SAE[1]: INI
                        T_AST_SAE: 0 s
                        MAP_MES_SAE: 255 kPa
                        Lambda probe voltage: bank 1: probe 1 (broadband probe): 2.065 V
                        FAC_TPS_1_SAE: 0.000000 %
                        FUP_H_SAE: 28000.0 kPa
    
    Readiness: 0000 0000
    . Maybe the limitation is in the haldex module?
    You ain't metal till you got a clutch pedal

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    Yes then the modules has memory for only 10

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