Front PDC Retrofit on 2013+ Audi S4 B8.5 / 8K Facelift

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I'm looking into retrofitting front PDC sensors on a facelift 2013+ Audi S4 via the 09-Cent. Elect. module (should be similar for A4,A5,S5 facelift). I know one option is to move front and rear PDC control to a "10" Park/Steer assist module module in the trunk, but am investigating a more "Factory" approach where all sensors are wired to 09-Cent. Elect.

BACKGROUND:
For 09-Cent. Elect., PDC coding is covered in byte 35, with bit 2 for PDC front (in the label file), bit 4 rear view camera, bit 5 PDC rear, bit 6 convertible.

So:

HEX 20 PDC rear
HEX 30 PDC rear + rear view camera
HEX 24 PDC front and rear
HEX 34 PDC front and rear + rear view camera
HEX 64 PDC front and rear (convertible)
HEX 74 PDC front and rear + rear view camera (convertible)

I code HEX 34 to byte 35 in Cent. Electric, and the coding is accepted (also make appropriate changes to 6F for rear view camera), but with the equipment (front buzzer, PDC button, front sensors) fitted, no fault codes, but no power to the front sensors and no front PDC. Everything else (rear sensors, rearview camera, button) works fine.

Someone who has had success getting the same module (8K0-907-063-DH) to recognize front sensors (by going to a independent shop), posted that the key was in the adaptations of the Cent. Electric module, specifically channels 193 to 204, but he may have also had his module flashed. I ran a map on Cent. Electric with the code provided by VCDS (20113), but 193 to 198 and 201-204 came up Error: Security Access required, 199-200 came up N/A.

QUESTIONS:
Is there another secure access code for this module, so that I could see the values in adaptation 193 to 203/204? I have another 8K0-907-063 module pulled from a wreck that had factory front+rear PDC (confirmed f+r PDC as working, but with component protection active when plugged into my car), so I could compare these two.

Is it likely that the settings I'm after are kept in adaptations, or might it be that SVM puts different versions of the 09-Cent. Elect controller software depending on factory installed options?

Here's a stock 2014 S4 Auto-Scan, let me know if the maps would help:

Code:
Saturday,31,May,2014,13:53:01:31193
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator
VCDS Version: 12.12.2.0
Data version: 20140212


VIN: WAUDGAFL7EA151123   License Plate: 
Mileage: 280km-173mi   Repair Order: 



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Chassis Type: FL (8R0)
Scan: 01 03 05 08 09 15 16 17 19 22 36 3C 42 44 46 47 52 53 56 5F
          62 6C 72 A9

VIN: WAUDGAFL7EA151123   Mileage: 280km/173miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
22-AWD -- Status: OK 0000
36-Seat Mem. Drvr -- Status: OK 0000
3C-Lane Change -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
53-Parking Brake -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
5F-Information Electr. -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
6C-Back-up Cam. -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
A9-Struct. Borne Sound -- Status: OK 0000
 
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Address 01: Engine (J623-CGXC)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 8K5 907 551 F    HW: 4G0 907 551 A
   Component: 3.0l V6 TFSIH07 0002  
   Revision: --H07---    
   Coding: 0A190034052600060000
   Shop #: WSC 06208 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM30TFS0218K5907551F 001002
   ROD: EV_ECM30TFS0218K5907551F.rod
   VCID: 39793B72B8204BD69C9-806C

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0000 0000

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels: 8K0-907-379.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 907 379 CP    HW: 8K0 907 379 CP
   Component: ESP8 quattro  H09 0020  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: --------------
   Coding: 281D1A01
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   VCID: 89190BB220401B564C9-80DC

No fault code found.

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Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. (J393)       Labels: 8K0-907-064-05.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 907 064 JM    HW: 8K0 907 064 JM
   Component: BCM2 2.0      H14 0650  
   Revision: 00002001    
   Coding: 0F814040000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   VCID: 84071A860762463E3FF-80D1

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8K0 905 852 E    HW: 8K0 905 852 E
   Component: J764 ELV MLB  H40 0046 

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 8K1 820 043 AQ    HW: 8K1 820 043 AQ
   Component: KLIMA 3 ZONEN H04 0122  
   Revision: C1000000    Serial number: 01150420140864
   Coding: 6600228000
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   VCID: 77FDFD4AC6B49DA6AAD-8022

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels: 8K0-907-063.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 907 063 DH    HW: 8K0 907 063 DH
   Component: BCM1 1.0      H16 0103  
   Revision: 08016001    Serial number: 00000792063602
   Coding: 26000091863CAFE0240048C300003D0D0F9C9308A2090221000008004000030100000030000000
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   VCID: 78FFFE76CBAA92DEA37-802D

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8K1 955 119 B    HW: 8K1 955 119 B
   Component: MITSUBA250314  H18 0461 
   Coding: 004577

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8U0 955 559 B    HW: 8U0 955 559 B
   Component: G397_RLFS  H06 0002 
   Coding: 02005D

   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 8K0 941 531 AS    HW: 8K0 941 531 AS
   Component: E1 - LDS  H03 0031 

   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 4G0 907 410 A    HW: 4H0 907 410 A
   Component: USHL4.2  H30 0030 

   Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: 4H0 907 658     HW: 4H0 907 658 
   Component: AQ_Hum_Sensor  H03 0003 

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels: 8K0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 959 655 P    HW: 8K0 959 655 P
   Component: AirbagVW-AU10 H48 0610  
   Serial number: 003KJDC0736/  
   Coding: 303842354730303030304A55304C384B3053
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaECUVWAUDI010 003010
   ROD: EV_AirbaECUVWAUDI010_AU48.rod
   VCID: 4A9B74BEEDC6D04E053-801F

   Seat occupied recognition: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8K0 959 339 C    HW: 8K0 959 339 C
   Component: BF-Gewichtss.  H02 0040 
   Serial number: 5810000R140000JPCP

   Crash sensor for side airbag; driver side: 
   Serial number: 6334MSME44390E36G

   Crash sensor for side airbag; passenger side: 
   Serial number: 6344MSME44390C1CJ

   Crash sensor for side airbag; rear driver side: 
   Serial number: 6352QSME11401058/

   Crash sensor for side airbag; rear passenger side: 
   Serial number: 6362QSME1C403E44K

   Crash sensor for front airbag; driver side: 
   Serial number: 63732SME6E3D4F50G

   Crash sensor for front airbag; passenger side: 
   Serial number: 63832SME713D1F4EF

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels: 8K0-953-568.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 953 568 M    HW: 8K0 953 568 M
   Component: Lenks.Modul   H04 0005  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 90372NDA000K2 
   Coding: 000016
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   VCID: 44875A86C7E2063EFFF-8011

   Component: E221 - MFL  H03 0004 

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels: 8T0-920-xxx-17.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 920 983     HW: 8K0 920 983 
   Component: KOMBIINSTR.   H35 0564  
   Revision: 00100000    Serial number: ZAI50YC4F     
   Coding: 8BB509008301D705020000
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   VCID: F2EB4C5E2DD6788E1D3-80A7

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels: 8T0-907-468.clb
   Part No SW: 8R0 907 468 P    HW: 8R0 907 468 D
   Component: GW-BEM 5CAN-M H11 0060  
   Revision: 1Z120030    Serial number: 3041Z144040BCA
   Coding: 80C303FF00
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   VCID: 4C9772A6EFB2CE7E37F-8019

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8T0 915 181     HW: 8T0 915 181 
   Component: J367-BDMHella  H03 8041 

No fault code found.

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Address 22: AWD (J492)       Labels: 8K0-907-163.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 907 163 B    HW: 8K0 907 163 A
   Component: 4 Wheel Drive H14 0100  
   Serial number: 000104140001428
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AllWheelDiffeQSPCAN 003019
   ROD: EV_AllWheelDiffeQSPCAN.rod
   VCID: 2F6D052A7664956632D-807A

No fault code found.

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Address 36: Seat Mem. Drvr (J136)       Labels: 8T0-959-760.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 959 760 D    HW: 8K0 959 760 D
   Component: MEM-FS        H06 0077  
   Revision: AA000000    Serial number: 00000097738957
   Coding: 00581B00000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   VCID: 3B75217ABA1C79C68E5-806E

No fault code found.

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Address 3C: Lane Change (J769)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 8T0 907 566 B    HW: 8T0 907 566 B
   Component: SWA Master    H05 0071  
   Serial number: 0330307617
   Coding: 010211
   Shop #: WSC 06324 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_LaneChangAssis 001020
   ROD: EV_LaneChangAssis_AU48.rod
   VCID: 3F8D556AA60465E6A2D-806A

   Lane Change Assistant 2: 

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels: 8K0-959-793.clb
   Part No SW: 8T0 959 793 P    HW: 8T0 959 793 G
   Component: TSG FA        H09 0305  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: --------------
   Coding: 011C13204E00410001
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   VCID: 56A390CE217E84AE91B-8003

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist (J500)       Labels: 8K0-909-144.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 909 144 G    HW: 8K0 909 144 B
   Component: RCEPS         H40 0508  
   Revision: 00001000    Serial number: 0003455810
   Coding: 100000010001
   Shop #: WSC 06324 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_RCEPSAU48X 008015
   ROD: EV_RCEPSAU48X.rod
   VCID: 356137429438AFB6781-8060

No fault code found.

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Address 46: Central Conv. (J393)       Labels: 8K0-907-064-46.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 907 064 JM    HW: 8K0 907 064 JM
   Component: BCM2 2.0      H14 0650  
   Revision: 00002001    Serial number: 0332479004    
   Coding: 0106023A00FA404580B0013200000000
   Shop #: WSC 06324 000 00000
   VCID: 84071A860762463E3FF-80D1

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8K0 959 719 B    HW: 8K0 959 719 
   Component: GTO BF  H01 0080 

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
   Component: LIN BACKUP HO  H05 1501 

   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 8K0 959 591 B    HW: 8K0 959 591 
   Component: J245 PS050  H08 0043 

No fault code found.

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Address 47: Sound System (J525)       Labels: 8T0-035-223-BOM.clb
   Part No SW: 8T1 035 223 A    HW: 8T1 035 223 A
   Component: DSP Prem      H05 0030  
   Revision: 00005001    Serial number: 94813028620004
   VCID: 2D511F227468E776001-8078

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels: 8K0-959-792.clb
   Part No SW: 8T0 959 792 P    HW: 8T0 959 792 G
   Component: TSG BF        H09 0305  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: --------------
   Coding: 011C13204E00410001
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   VCID: 55A197C23C788FB6981-8000

No fault code found.

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Address 53: Parking Brake (----)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 8K0 907 801 N    HW: 8K0 907 801 J
   Component: EPB-4         H01 0005  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 30000000199339
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ParkiBrake 001028
   ROD: EV_ParkiBrake_AU48.rod
   VCID: 3A7B247EBD2640CE953-806F

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio (R)       Labels: Redir Fail!
   Part No SW: 4G0 035 082 G    HW: 4G0 035 082 
   Component: Radio U SIRIU H60 0133  
   Revision: AB001007    Serial number: 156D00E7996600
   Coding: 020007010000000001
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   VCID: 2447FA0627A2263EDFF-8071

No fault code found.

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Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794)       Labels: 4E0-035-6xx-5F.clb
   Part No SW: 8R1 035 746 E    HW: 8R1 035 746 D
   Component: H-BNT-NA      H41 0756  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 204D$0E7657635
   Coding: 110200000206A1EF55028B5E00000403140000000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   VCID: 39793B72B0204BD69C9-806C

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 8R0 060 884 BL
   Component: NAR 2014  0902 

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8R0 919 604 A    HW: 8R0 919 604 A
   Component: DU7 High  H42 0104 

   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 8T0 919 611 L    HW: 8T0 919 611 C
   Component: E0380 Bedient  H02 0030 

   Subsystem 4 - Part No: 8R0 060 961 F
   Component: CD-Database  5571 

No fault code found.

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Address 62: Door, Rear Left (J388)       Labels: 8K0-959-795.clb
   Part No SW: 8T0 959 795 Q    HW: 8T0 959 795 H
   Component: TSG HL        H07 0305  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: --------------
   Coding: 010C13204000210001
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   VCID: 59B99BF25060ABD6BC9-800C

No fault code found.

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Address 6C: Back-up Cam.        Labels: 4L0-910-441.clb
   Part No SW: 8T0 907 441 C    HW: 4L0 907 441 B
   Component: J772__Rearview      0040  
   Revision: --H09---    Serial number: 525PA8-J42903C
   Coding: 1000006
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   VCID: 387F3E764B2A52DE637-806D

No fault code found.

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Address A9: Struct. Borne Sound (J869)       Labels: 4H0-907-159.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 907 159     HW: 4H0 907 159 A
   Component: SAS-GEN 2     H06 0005  
   Serial number: 140325200721
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SoundActuaGen2AU64X 002005
   ROD: EV_SoundActuaGen2AU64X.rod
   VCID: F2EB4C5E25D6788E1D3-80A7

No fault code found.

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Have you solved this ?

I've just retrofitted front+rear sensors this evening and all 8 sensors + button + 2 buzzers work fine, however in my MMI3G+ the option "Parking aid" under Car -> Driver Assists are greyed out and no optical display is shown on the screen while in reverse (or activated at all).

Here is my current codeing for BCM1:

Address 09: Cent. Elect. Labels: 8K0-907-063.clb
Control Module Part Number: 8K0 907 063 DH HW: 8K0 907 063 DH
Component and/or Version: BCM1 1.0 H16 0103
Software Coding: 2600C0318134AFE00481000300001D0D4F9C270826080301000008000000020000000024000000
Work Shop Code: WSC 06335 123 12345
VCID: 78F45C69CB8123FE46-802C
No fault code found.
 
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Have you solved this ?

Congratulations! Unfortunately no, I have not solved this. It is very good news that you were able to get your Central Electronics module 09 to control the sensors. Did you need to perform any special software modifications to the module? Or were you able to plug the sensors in, re-code, and everything worked? I was not able to get working software on my module to recognize more than just the rear sensors, so I added the parking module from the pre-facelift cars to drive front + rear sensors.

Can you share your coding from module 5F? In VCDS, byte 8, should have Park Assist Check box enabled I believe.

Then, there is a setting that might need modification in the green/hidden menu of your MMI. Under car>CarMenuOperation there is a setting "parking help" I believe this should be 5 but I am not sure if that is completely relevant (knowing what value yours is set to would help).
 
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Hi,

I've just bougth a used BCM1 from ebay, so haven't changed anything.
This was the ORIGINAL coding when I've got the BCM: 260000108074AFE00181408300001D0D0F9CE70826090201000008004401030100000024000000

I'll post my current coding later today from both BCM + 5F.

Here are some screenshots from my MMI 3G+

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This one I've just added for testing! - Dimming 1 + 2 I have no idea if it's correct. However it does'nt do anything
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This one I've just added for testing! - I have no idea if this correct. However it does'nt do anything
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MMI has been restarted after the changes, but it's the same - there is nothing on the screen.
 
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Anyone please?
 
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I've just tested with a A6 4G with MMI 3G+. Settings in the Green Menu har 100% the same regarding PDC.

Difference is that with the A6 the menu is active and on mine it's not. A6 has a PDC module where the A4 facelift has it build-in in BCM1.

Of cource I've could just buy a PDC module and rewire the sensors, button and buzzers, but that's not fun :-(

Any good ideas?
 
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Just got my PDC working. Now it's showing on the screen.

I've replaced the gateway (incorrect one from before the facelift that I've installed by a mistake), with a correct one:

Code:
Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels: 8T0-907-468.clb
   Part No SW: 8R0 907 468 P    HW: 8R0 907 468 D
   Component: GW-BEM 5CAN-M H11 0060  
   Revision: 1Z120030    Serial number: 3041Z153080152
   Coding: 80C3071600
   Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
   VCID: 4C9CD0B9EF997F5ED2-8018

Now it's shows the sensors on the MMI screen. Nice.

Hope that you find a solution.
 
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Bump. Did anyone ever find a security access code to the missing channels to activate Front PDC? My Q5 has front PDC and I can just copy the required adaptation channel values over to my newly acquired S4 which shares the same 09 Central Elec controller.
 
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Does anyone have a parametrization for the 8K0907063DL BCM module for the 8-channel PDC?
I just retrofitted my friend's car, A4 B8.5, with the front parking sensors, and the only step that needs to be done - is the re-parametrization of the unit to support 8-channel PDC.
 
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vcds can not do this. need other programs to do this.
 
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