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    MK7 golf, disable Hill Hold

    Hello,

    I'd like to disable the hill hold function on my 2015 Golf SportWagen with 6 speed manual.
    There are instructions for the MK6 but they don't quite work for the MK7, no choices when you get to the long coding helper for ABS Byte 16, if that's even the right location for the MK7.
    http://www.golfmk6.com/forums/showpo...&postcount=196


    Code:
    Thursday,24,August,2017,13:20:20:48918
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x86
    VCDS Version: 17.8.0.1  HEX-NET CB: 0.4401.4
    Data version: 20170721 DS276.2
    www.Ross-Tech.com
    
    
    VIN: 3VWFA7AU7FM508616   License Plate: 
    Mileage: 8503km-5283mi   Repair Order: 
    
    
    
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    
    Chassis Type: AU-VW37 (5Q0)
    Scan: 01 03 05 08 09 15 16 17 19 2B 42 44 52 5F 75
    
    VIN: 3VWFA7AU7FM508616   Mileage: 8503km-5283miles
    
    01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
    05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: OK 0000
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
    2B-Steer. Col. Lock -- Status: OK 0000
    42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
    44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
    5F-Information Electr. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    75-Telematics -- Status: OK 0000
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine (J623-CRUA)       Labels:. 04L-907-309-V1.clb
       Part No SW: 04L 906 021 C    HW: 04L 907 309 
       Component: R4 2.0l TDI   H23 9282  
       Revision: 85H23---    
       Coding: 01190012032410081000
       Shop #: WSC 09461 444 00000
       ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM20TDI01104L906021C 004014
       ROD: EV_ECM20TDI01104L906021C_004.rod
       VCID: 25023685245E106ED9-8070
    
    No fault code found.
    Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0 
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels:. 5Q0-907-379-ESP-V1.clb
       Part No SW: 3Q0 907 379 P    HW: 3Q0 907 379 C
       Component: ESC           H32 0385  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 50625000001998
       Coding: 04FA6AA124200974007D020181C92520562490004081A4B200630050C002
       Shop #: WSC 01383 790 50316
       ASAM Dataset: EV_Brake1UDSContiMK100ESP 034033
       ROD: EV_Brake1UDSContiMK100ESP_034_VW37.rod
       VCID: 47DE9C0DFE12E27E0B-8012
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. (J518)       Labels:| 5Q0-959-435.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 959 435 A    HW: 5Q0 959 435 
       Component: VWKESSYMQB    021 0604  
       Revision: 00021000    Serial number: 0361024578
       Coding: 030C0C
       Shop #: WSC 01383 790 50316
       ASAM Dataset: EV_KessyHellaMQBAB 002011
       ROD: EV_KessyHellaMQBAB_002_VW37.rod
       VCID: 3A38F5F9BDE08F9684-806E
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 08: Auto HVAC (J301)       Labels:| 5G0-907-426.clb
       Part No SW: 5GM 907 426     HW: 5GM 907 426 
       Component: AC Manuell    H02 1001  
       Revision: 00001K01    
       Coding: 02020104202100000000000010000000
       Shop #: WSC 01383 790 50316
       ASAM Dataset: EV_ACManueBHBVW37X 003019
       ROD: EV_ACManueBHBVW37X_003.rod
       VCID: 05425605849E306EB9-8050
    
       Fresh Air Blower Front: 
    
       Refrigerant Pressure And Temperature Sender: 
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:| 5Q0-937-08X-BV1.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 937 087 Q    HW: 5Q0 937 087 Q
       Component: BCM PQ37BOSCH 028 0145  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 86580702152123
       Coding: 000108424041804169E44000000403001800000000000000000000000000
       Shop #: WSC 00066 790 00076
       ASAM Dataset: EV_BodyContrModul1UDSBosc 014004
       ROD: EV_BCMBOSCH_014.rod
       VCID: 49DA9A35E806140E1D-801C
    
       Control Unit For Wiper Motor: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5GM 955 119     HW: 5GM 955 119   Labels: 5QX-955-119-V1.CLB
       Component: WWS    141205  043 0581 
       Serial number:         150402032925
       Coding: 0E4DDD
    
    1 Fault Found:
    329480 - Heated Passenger Seat 
              B1806 F0 [008] - Safety Shut-Off due to Occupant Detection
              Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 6
                        Reset counter: 251
                        Mileage: 280 km
                        Date: 2013.01.14
                        Time: 16:46:10
    
    
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    Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 5Q0-959-655.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 959 655 J    HW: 5Q0 959 655 J
       Component: AirbagVW20    009 0825  
       Serial number: 003GCR01DELL
       Coding: 8CCCFC00000000005000001AC24800000065
       Shop #: WSC 01383 790 50316
       ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW20SMEVW37X 002138
       ROD: EV_AirbaVW20SMEVW37X_VW37.rod
       VCID: 47DE9C0DFE12E27E0B-8012
    
       Occupant Detection: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 4M0 959 339 B    HW: 4M0 959 339 B
       Component: BF-Gewichtss.  H10 0021 
       Serial number: IBH0000J150002IIIP0N
       Coding: 303138
    
       Side Sensor Driver Front: 
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 003 001 15
       Component: SideSensor_Df  001 0887 
       Serial number: 3570000000047959321C
       Coding: 2D2D2D
    
       Side Sensor Passenger Front: 
       Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 000 302 15
       Component: SideSensor_Pf  001 0887 
       Serial number: 358000000001CC410317
       Coding: 2D2D2D
    
       Side Sensor Driver Rear: 
       Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 400 302 15
       Component: SideSensor_Dr  001 6149 
       Serial number: 3510002B71901D9341C$
       Coding: 2D2D2D
    
       Side Sensor Passenger Rear: 
       Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 400 302 15
       Component: SideSensor_Pr  001 6149 
       Serial number: 3520002B71901D90F2D7
       Coding: 2D2D2D
    
       Front Sensor Driver: 
       Subsystem 6 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 400 302 15
       Component: FrontSensor_D  001 6149 
       Serial number: 3550002AB196FF51F0DU
       Coding: 2D2D2D
    
       Front Sensor Passenger: 
       Subsystem 7 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 400 302 15
       Component: FrontSensor_P  001 6149 
       Serial number: 3560002B71901D93E2AA
       Coding: 2D2D2D
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 16: Steering wheel (J524)       Labels:| 5Q0-953-549.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 953 521 AT    HW: 5Q0 953 569 A
       Component: Lenks.Modul   075 0175  
       Revision: FF032032    Serial number: 20150210500268
       Coding: 0400
       Shop #: WSC 66564 385 16448
       ASAM Dataset: EV_SMLSVALEOMQB 001015
       ROD: EV_SMLSVALEOMQB_VW37.rod
       VCID: 04444B018FA40966AE-8050
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5G0-920-XXX-17.clb
       Part No SW: 5G1 920 841     HW: 5G1 920 841 
       Component: KOMBI         243 4270  
       Coding: 0BA412122180CF0502086A001000000000000000
       Shop #: WSC 00066 790 00064
       ASAM Dataset: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB 009037
       ROD: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB_009_VW26.rod
       VCID: 6582768564DED06E19-8030
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:| 5Q0-907-530-V1.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 907 530 AB    HW: 5Q0 907 530 L
       Component: GW MQB Mid    211 2203  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 06031510001169
       Coding: 0901000800087300EF000008080F00000001050000000000000000000000
       Shop #: WSC 00066 790 07025
       ASAM Dataset: EV_GatewConti 011020
       ROD: EV_GatewConti_011.rod
       VCID: 71AA12D5A0160CCE75-8024
    
       Alternator: 
    
       Multi Function Steering Wheel Control Module: 
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5G0 959 442 P    HW: 5G0 959 442 P  Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
       Component: E221__MFL-DC1  H16 0101 
       Serial number: 29150000484830125112
       Coding: 30FFFF
    
       Power Converter DC AC: 
       Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 5Q0 907 155 A    HW: 5Q0 907 155 A
       Component: WECHSELRICHTE  H53 0041 
       Serial number: 0033852             
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 2B: Steer. Col. Lock (J764)       Labels:| 5Q0-905-861.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 905 861 A    HW: 5Q0 905 861 A
       Component: ELV-MQBA      H01 0120  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 15000042994001
       Coding: 5500000000000000
       Shop #: WSC 00066 790 07025
       ASAM Dataset: EV_ELVMarquMQB 004111
       ROD: EV_ELVMarquMQB_004_VW37.rod
       VCID: 3424DBC19F8479E65E-8060
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels:| 5QX-959-X93-42.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 959 393 B    HW: 5Q0 959 393 B
       Component: TSG FS        020 0025  
       Serial number: 170315060505IX
       Coding: 003013200000040000000000
       Shop #: WSC 01383 790 50316
       ASAM Dataset: EV_DCUDriveSideEWMINKLO 006003
       ROD: EV_DCUDriveSideEWMAXCONT_VW37.rod
       VCID: 3E30F9E9A1C8A3B6B8-806A
    
       Drivers Door Rear Control Module: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5Q4 959 811 D    HW: 5Q4 959 811 D  Labels: 5QX-959-81X-V1.CLB
       Component: Fond FHSG DRV  007 0002 
       Serial number: 00000000000000941806
       Coding: 011000
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 44: Steering Assist (J500)       Labels:| 5Q0-909-144.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 909 144 R    HW: 5Q0 909 144 R
       Component: EPS_MQB_ZFLS  126 1061  
       Coding: 0102
       Shop #: WSC 00066 790 00064
       ASAM Dataset: EV_SteerAssisMQB 012140
       ROD: EV_SteerAssisMQB.rod
       VCID: 43C6881DCA2ACE5ED7-8016
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels:| 5QX-959-X92-52.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 959 392 B    HW: 5Q0 959 392 B
       Component: TSG BFS       020 0025  
       Serial number: 03031506050B2T
       Coding: 003013200000040000000000
       Shop #: WSC 01383 790 50316
       ASAM Dataset: EV_DCUPasseSideEWMINKLO 006003
       ROD: EV_DCUPasseSideEWMAXCONT_VW37.rod
       VCID: 3D32FEE5ACCEB8AEA1-8068
    
       Passengers Rear Door Control Module: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5Q4 959 812 D    HW: 5Q4 959 812 D  Labels: 5QX-959-81X-V1.CLB
       Component: Fond FHSG PSG  007 0002 
       Serial number: 00000000000000920730
       Coding: 091000
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794)       Labels:| 5G0-035-MIB-STD1.clb
       Part No SW: 5G0 035 844     HW: 5G0 035 844 
       Component: MU-S-S-US     014 0645  
       Serial number: V7B00303150400
       Coding: 02730200FF00000021220001001800001F0100140100010002
       Shop #: WSC 00066 790 07025
       ASAM Dataset: EV_MUStd4CPASE 002040
       ROD: EV_MUStd4CPASE_VW37.rod
       VCID: 64846B816FE4A9660E-8030
    
       Operating And Display Unit 1: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5G0 919 605 H    HW: 5G0 919 605 H
       Component: ABT_Std_Plus  H60 0030 
       Serial number: VWZ8Z9PS5017KR      
    
    1 Fault Found:
    0020 - Tuner for Satelite Radio 
              B11CF 53 [009] - Deactivated
              Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 4
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 28
                        Mileage: 349 km
                        Date: 2017.04.21
                        Time: 15:50:15
    
                        Voltage terminal 30: 12.6 V
                        Satellite radio tuner status-Satellite radio antenna status: Electrical OK
                        Satellite radio tuner status-Channel selection for satellite radio: 0
                        Satellite radio tuner status-Audio Signal: Not available
                        Satellite radio tuner status-Antenna current: 0 mA
                        Satellite radio tuner status-Reception quality: Not available
                        Satellite radio tuner status-SDARS Flash Regional code: US_Audio_Traffic_Travellink
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 75: Telematics (J949)       Labels:| 5QE-035-285.clb
       Part No SW: 5QE 035 285 A    HW: 5QE 035 285 A
       Component: OCULowMQBUS   007 0564  
       Coding: 02730202C2821A017F1E06000000
       Shop #: WSC 00066 790 00322
       ASAM Dataset: EV_OCULowMQB 001003
       ROD: EV_OCULowMQB_VW37.rod
       VCID: 43C6881DCA2ACE5ED7-8016
    
    No fault code found.
    
    End----------(Elapsed Time: 01:20, VBatt start/end: 12.4V/12.4V)-----------
    Any help or suggestions would be much appreciated,

    Grigg

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    Curious: Why do you want to disable it?

    The ABS in this car is completely different than in the MK6. I do not see a straightforward way of disabling it entirely, but there seem to be some Adaptation channels that might allow alterning its behavior:

    MAS02138 - Hill-start assistant (Early/Late/Normal)
    MAS08145 - Hill-start assistant: increase threshold (%)

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    Personal preference, I am very comfortable driving a manual and how the hill holder operates sometimes fights me, it can require more clutch slipping and throttle than necessary.
    It often fights me when leaving a parking spot, which I have gotten around by not using the foot brake then release the hand brake and drive away, feels like I'm playing games with the car..
    Sometimes it's just fine, but I still don't need it.

    I have been using the "Early" setting and it is slightly less obtrusive, but it still functions.

    The "increase threshold" adaptation I don't understand. Mine is set at 3% so I tried 0% thinking "nothing" compared to "something" would be noticeable, but I couldn't tell a difference, and it did still function.
    Without understanding what that % means or does I wasn't comfortable playing with it much more.

    Thanks,
    Grigg

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    OK, if anyone knows how to disable Hill-Hold in this ABS, please chime in.

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    ^^^^^ Uwe: the generally accepted method for enabling/disabling Hill Hold on 3Q0 907 379 units is to set/unset Byte 25, Bit 0 and Bit 1.

    In Crigg's auto scan, the code string for the module @ address Hex03 is
    Code:
    04FA6AA124200974007D020181C92520562490004081A4B200630050C002
    So the mod is to change this to :

    Code:
    04FA6AA124200974007D020181C92520562490004081A4B200600050C002
    Don
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    Thanks Don,
    I'll try that first thing tomorrow.

    Grigg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uwe View Post
    OK, if anyone knows how to disable Hill-Hold in this ABS, please chime in.

    -Uwe-
    Not on Mk7 Golf.

    How to enable or disable hill hold on your Volkswagen Golf mk6
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    Exactly how is this relevant in the context of this thread, which is clearly about an Mk.7? Moreover, the OP already already has the instructions for an Mk.6 and found they are not applicable to his car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DV52 View Post
    ^^^^^ Uwe: the generally accepted method for enabling/disabling Hill Hold on 3Q0 907 379 units is to set/unset Byte 25, Bit 0 and Bit 1.

    In Grigg's auto scan, the code string for the module @ address Hex03 is
    Code:
    04FA6AA124200974007D020181C92520562490004081A4B200630050C002
    So the mod is to change this to :

    Code:
    04FA6AA124200974007D020181C92520562490004081A4B200600050C002
    Don
    Thanks Much Don,
    This worked perfectly! I'm very pleased to have the hill holder disabled on my MK7.

    Thanks again,
    Grigg

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    Thanks for this Thread.
    Is this the same way for enabling the Hill Hold function? Or is there special hardware required or something?

    If yes, whats the result when the Hill Hold switch is not present?
    Does this also work on 8V0 907 379?
    Last edited by hadez16; 08-27-2017 at 04:18 AM.

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