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    Question Adding RNS510 and Bluetooth to VW Polo 6R

    Hi,

    Can anyone assist me with adding an RNS510 and Bluetooth module 1K8035730D to my 2011 Polo 6R please? I've installed the devices and initially Bluetooth pairs when the ignition is switched on and the RNS510 seems to work ok but always starts in Germany (Regensburg syndrome). Bluetooth connectivity does work but does not interface to the RNS 510 and so to answer or make a call you have to use the phone rather than the touch screen.
    I assumed this was due to the car being unaware of the Bluetooth and RNS510 and so added them using the coding assistant. However once the coding is complete the Bluetooth no longer pairs and the RNS 510 is unable to find any satellites. If I remove the coding and set it back as it was the systems all work fine but with the original limitations.

    Can anyone offer any thoughts as to why this might be please?


    Code:
    Wednesday,02,August,2017,11:04:29:30096
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows XP x86
    VCDS Version: 17.8.0.1
    Data version: 20170721 DS276.2
    www.Ross-Tech.com
    
    
    VIN: WVWZZZ6RZBU039512   License Plate: 
    Mileage: 79960km-49684mi   Repair Order: 
    
    
    
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    
    Chassis Type: 6R-VW25 (6N0)
    Scan: 01 03 04 08 09 15 17 19 25 37 44 56 77
    
    VIN: WVWZZZ6RZBU039512   Mileage: 79960km-49684miles
    
    01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
    04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
    37-Navigation -- Status: Not registered 0011
    44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000
     
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine        Labels: 03C-906-024-BXW.lbl
       Part No SW: 03C 906 024 CN    HW: 03C 906 024 BH
       Component:       CGGB  MM4HV   8994  
       Revision: --H09---    Serial number:               
       Coding: 0000071
       Shop #: WSC 00053 210 89422
       VCID: 6CD1A7B64CFE672646-5164
    
    No fault code found.
    Readiness: 0000 0000
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels:. 6R0-907-37x-ESP82.clb
       Part No SW: 6R0 907 379 AJ    HW: 6R0 907 379 AF
       Component: ESP8.2i front H05 0001  
       Revision: --------    
       Coding: 230224E3217000BBC42A24E384D300801100
       Shop #: WSC 31414 790 31414
       VCID: 0605F51EB552BD76B0-8052
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 08: Auto HVAC (J301)       Labels: 6R0-820-045-9AP.clb
       Part No SW: 6R0 820 045 J    HW: 6R0 820 045 J
       Component: Climatic       25 0660  
       Revision: 00 11 25    
       VCID: 356742D29C34E6EE69-8060
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 6R0-937-08x-09.clb
       Part No SW: 6R0 937 086 F    HW: 6R0 937 086 
       Component: BCM PQ25 M++4 H46 0221  
       Revision: BD046001    Serial number: 0343 266101082
       Coding: 24B02BBF08A10000003000003D2B0CD00040410F60060000200000000000
       Shop #: WSC 31414 790 31414
       VCID: 3F8B20FAAE082CBEB3-806A
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 802 R    HW: 6R0 959 802 R  Labels: 6R0-959-802.CLB
       Component: J386__TSG_FT  006 0903 
       Serial number: KU0-KU007.09.1010737
       Coding: 18BC30
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 801 T    HW: 6R0 959 801 T  Labels: 6R0-959-801.CLB
       Component: J387__TSG_BT  006 0902 
       Serial number: KU0-KU003.09.1011464
       Coding: 08BC30
    
       Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 811 F    HW: 6R0 959 811 F
       Component: J388__TSG_HL  006 0902 
       Serial number: KU0-KU001.09.1012719
       Coding: 08BC32
    
       Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 812 F    HW: 6R0 959 812 F
       Component: J389__TSG_HR  006 0902 
       Serial number: KU0-KU009.09.1011534
       Coding: 08BC32
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 5K0-959-655.clb
       Part No SW: 6R0 959 655 K    HW: 6R0 959 655 K
       Component: VW10Airbag00N H09 0020  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 003GX00A7DWS
       Coding: 00304E
       Shop #: WSC 31414 790 31414
       ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250 A01001
       ROD: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250_VW25.rod
       VCID: 4A9D012EEDCA991614-801E
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side: 
       Serial number: 3572SRB40000C9DC726J
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag: front passenger side: 
       Serial number: 3582SRB40000C8995237
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: driver side: 
       Serial number: 3515RRB40616VQ8AGHI7
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: passenger side: 
       Serial number: 3525RRB40636VQ8A5OMA
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb
       Part No SW: 6R0 920 960 F    HW: 6R0 920 960 F
       Component: KOMBI         H04 0304  
       Serial number: 00000000000000
       Coding: 440200
       Shop #: WSC 31414 790 50316
       ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04086
       ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_A04_VW25.rod
       VCID: 38794BE683261B8672-806C
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 6N0-909-901-6R.clb
       Part No SW: 6N0 909 901     HW: 6R0 937 086 
       Component: GW-K-CAN TP20 0221  
       Coding: 002300
       Shop #: WSC 31414 790 31414
       VCID: 70E9B3C6A3D683C67A-8024
    
    1 Fault Found:
    01044 - Control Module Incorrectly Coded 
                000 -  - 
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01100000
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 255
                        Mileage: 79965 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2011.12.22
                        Time: 21:15:12
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
       Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234 
       Component: IMMO          H04 0304  
       Serial number:               
       Coding: 000000
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03008
       ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_VW21.rod
       VCID: 6ADDA1AE8D0A791634-803E
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 37: Navigation (J0506)       Labels:. 1T0-035-680.clb
       Part No SW: 1T0 035 680 L    HW: 1T0 035 680 P
       Component: RNS-MID       H10 5238  
       Revision: AB001001    Serial number: VWZ6Z747071112
       Coding: 04000402040000000001
       Shop #: WSC 05314 123 12345
       VCID: 377B48DA863814FE7B-8062
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1T0 919 859 B
       Component: EU West V14  8477 
    
    3 Faults Found:
    00857 - CD Changer Unit (R41) 
                004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00100100
                        Fault Priority: 5
                        Fault Frequency: 254
                        Reset counter: 84
                        Mileage: 77760 km
                        Time Indication: 0
    
    00876 - Treble Speaker Rear Left (R14) 
                011 - Open Circuit - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00101011
                        Fault Priority: 5
                        Fault Frequency: 11
                        Reset counter: 84
                        Mileage: 79960 km
                        Time Indication: 0
    
    00877 - Treble Speaker Rear Right (R16) 
                011 - Open Circuit - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00101011
                        Fault Priority: 5
                        Fault Frequency: 11
                        Reset counter: 84
                        Mileage: 79960 km
                        Time Indication: 0
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 6Q0-423-156.clb
       Part No: 6R0 423 156 B
       Component: LenkhilfeTRW        V277  
       Coding: 11250
       Shop #: WSC 31414  
       VCID: 2F6B70BAEA68DC3E23-807A
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 56: Radio (J0506)       Labels:. 1T0-035-680.clb
       Part No SW: 1T0 035 680 L    HW: 1T0 035 680 P
       Component: RNS-MID       H10 5238  
       Revision: AB001001    Serial number: VWZ6Z747071112
       Coding: 04000402040000000001
       Shop #: WSC 05314 123 12345
       VCID: 377B48DA863814FE7B-8062
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1T0 919 859 B
       Component: EU West V14  8477 
    
    3 Faults Found:
    00857 - CD Changer Unit (R41) 
                004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00100100
                        Fault Priority: 5
                        Fault Frequency: 254
                        Reset counter: 84
                        Mileage: 77760 km
                        Time Indication: 0
    
    00876 - Treble Speaker Rear Left (R14) 
                011 - Open Circuit - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00101011
                        Fault Priority: 5
                        Fault Frequency: 11
                        Reset counter: 84
                        Mileage: 79960 km
                        Time Indication: 0
    
    00877 - Treble Speaker Rear Right (R16) 
                011 - Open Circuit - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00101011
                        Fault Priority: 5
                        Fault Frequency: 11
                        Reset counter: 84
                        Mileage: 79960 km
                        Time Indication: 0
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 77: Telephone (J738)       Labels:. 1K8-035-730.clb
       Part No SW: 1K8 035 730 D    HW: 1K8 035 730 D
       Component: Telefon       H08 6900  
       Revision: 00008000    Serial number: 00000A08700500
       Coding: 412020
       Shop #: WSC 00078 790 00190
       VCID: 2A5D61AE458AB916F4-807E
    
    No fault code found.
    
    End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 03:00)--------------------------

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    At least I'd recommend to add the 37 Navigation to the CAN gateway.

    Coding of RNS:
    Only front speakers:
    04000202040000000001

    Hard reset: < + > + eject

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    Thanks for the reply.

    As soon as I tag 37 as present in the CAN gateway the RNS510 stops finding any satellites at all and remains stuck in Germany. Does this suggest Gateway software version mismatches?

    I can try the coding to front speakers only, the car does have rear speakers though.

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    Your bluetooth kit is 9W2 which does not have any control through RNS. You need to use phone to make calls or answer them.

    9W7 is what you need if you want to have full control through the radio screen.

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    I do have a 9w7 module but when I use it I have no way to activate pairing to the phone. The car does not have multi function steering wheel or highline display unfortunately and so has no buttons to activate pairing.
    I don't think its possible to do it from the RNS510 itself?

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    for 9w7 highline display in cluster is needed to pair or set up bluetooth

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob234 View Post
    I do have a 9w7 module but when I use it I have no way to activate pairing to the phone. The car does not have multi function steering wheel or highline display unfortunately and so has no buttons to activate pairing.
    I don't think its possible to do it from the RNS510 itself?

    According to your autoscan, if the module 1K8 035 730 D is correct, that's a 9W2. UHV Novero standard.

    http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index...e_Retrofitting

    If you want control you'll need 9W7 unit and still like m87a already wrote, it will be limited without highline cluster. Pairing cannot be done from the headunit, for that you'll need the cluster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by downtime View Post
    According to your autoscan, if the module 1K8 035 730 D is correct, that's a 9W2. UHV Novero standard.

    http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index...e_Retrofitting

    If you want control you'll need 9W7 unit and still like m87a already wrote, it will be limited without highline cluster. Pairing cannot be done from the headunit, for that you'll need the cluster.
    Do you know of any Bluetooth modules which will allow pairing without highline?

    Also do you have any idea why the CAN stuff stops responding when I tell the gateway about module 37 please?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob234 View Post
    Do you know of any Bluetooth modules which will allow pairing without highline?
    You mean highline cluster? No, if no cluster then the pairing is done from mobile side but you still cannot change any of the BT settings without the cluster.

    Also do you have any idea why the CAN stuff stops responding when I tell the gateway about module 37 please?
    Not familiar with PQ25 platform that much but here's some discussion about the can gateway revision you have : http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?5322130

    There's a hint also how to get it to register the new devices. Just recode the can gateway with the same exact coding you have there now, it will then auto refresh the installation list. It should find the Navigation and register it at that point.

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