2012 VW Caddy 1.6 TDi CAYD - EGR problem

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Hi Guys,

I did change quite alot of those new type EGR modules in VAG cars, but it is the first time that I have a problem like this.

Subject - VW Caddy 2012 VW Caddy 1.6 TDi CAYD, log from before repair:

Code:
Tuesday,25,April,2017,08:13:14:62150
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows XP x86
VCDS Version: 16.8.3.1
Data version: 20161010 DS267.0
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: WV1ZZZ2KZCX089951   License Plate: DN80980



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                Address 01: Engine       Labels: 03L-906-023-CAY.clb
Control Module Part Number: 03L 906 023 PC    HW: 03L 907 425 C
  Component and/or Version: 1,6l R4 CR td H43 0869
           Software Coding: 00114014030400080000
            Work Shop Code: WSC 35110 790 50316
              ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM16TDI02103L906023PC 003002 (VN35)
                       ROD: EV_ECM16TDI02103L906023DB.rod
                      VCID: 76E26241C935FBF296-8022
1 Fault Found:

7337 - EGR System 
          P0401 00 [104] - Insufficient Flow
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 22
                    Mileage: 91158 km
                    Date: 2060.14.31
                    Time: 14:42:05

                    Engine speed: 1730.25 /min
                    Normed load value: 19.6 %
                    Vehicle speed: 26 km/h
                    Coolant temperature: 21 °C
                    Intake air temperature: 15 °C
                    Ambient air pressure: 1010 mbar
                    Voltage terminal 30: 14.344 V
                    Unlearning counter according OBD: 40
                    Charge air pressure specified value-MAP_SP_MMV: 1062.84 hPa
                    Charge air pressure: actual value-MAP_MMV: 1062.01 hPa
                    Air mass: actual value (mg/stroke)-MAF_MES: 398.547 mg/stroke
                    Air mass: specified value-MAF_SP_MMV: 259.28 mg/stroke
                    EGR Vacuum Regulator Solenoid Valve: activation-ANG_SP_EGRV[0]: 84.253 %
                    Throttle_actuator_commanded_value-ANG_SP_THR[0]: 96.001 %
                    Charge Pressure Actuator: activation-ANG_SP_BPA[0]: 49.258 %


Readiness: 0000 0000

After removing the EGR, it occured, that there are lots odf soot and coal inside of it so we decided to change the part.

After changing the part, car drove for a week and came back with error:


Code:
P0403 Exhaust Gas Recirculation 'A' Control Circuit

Unfortunately, I don't have a log file, because it was checked by another technician and he did a quick scan with G-Scan and erased the error...

Did anyone had simmilar error? All the pipes ingoing to the EGR were sandblasted to get rid of thick layer of soot, The plug and cables look ok, after the operation car had also a big service, changed oil, all filters and fluids...

Regards,
Daniel
 
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Failing/Failed EGR Coolers are very common on the 1.6
 
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The whole element - valve and cooler. In Norway You can only buy it as a set.
 
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Hi Daniel, Was the "new" EGR aftermarket or genuine VAG?
Regards HMC
 
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Hi Daniel, Was the "new" EGR aftermarket or genuine VAG?
Regards HMC

Hi,

it was aftermarket. We suspect, that this is the problem - we got some feetback from other companies using the same supplier, that those EGR hapen to be faulty. I don't see any other reason, because there was no P0403 error anytime before, and the harness and plug are in great shape. We used same type of EGR on other cars, but from a different supplier, and after the change of part, P0401 was gone for good and there was no other errors, I didn't even made an adaptation back then and it worked flawlessly...
One thing that I didn't mentioned before about this perticular Caddy case:
When I was trying to make an adaptation of the new EGR with VCDS, RPM raised til ca.1700, but there was a green message on the screen "Not running tbd" and nothing else happened.
 
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Hi Daniel,
I recently tried to save a customer some money and fitted an aftermarket EGR, it failed within a week and cost me money to rectify. Never again!
Regards HMC
 
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Update:

Today I did change the EGR for a new one, from the same company. Customer already paid for the aftermarket one, so it would look bad if he should pay additionally for an original part. After installation there was no error, warmed up the engine and did a test drive - so far so good.

Question:

do those EGR valves need adaptation? When I enter adaptation in VCDS it says "Not running tbd" and the only thing that changes is RPM - raises to 1500...
 
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Update:

Today I did change the EGR for a new one, from the same company. Customer already paid for the aftermarket one, so it would look bad if he should pay additionally for an original part. After installation there was no error, warmed up the engine and did a test drive - so far so good.

Question:

do those EGR valves need adaptation? When I enter adaptation in VCDS it says "Not running tbd" and the only thing that changes is RPM - raises to 1500...
Did you ever find a solution for this?

Currently at the same point
 
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@Tedthegolfnoob please open your own thread and post an autoscan with it, thx
 
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