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Thread: Tiguan 2013 Bi-xenon retrofit (No AFS)

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    module worked!

    Quote Originally Posted by Dana View Post
    I noticed the email conversation related to the G85 problem
    .. between the OP and Peter in our tech team. I decided to reply here because I agree with m87a.

    The oldest scan I have from this car showed:
    Code:
    Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels: 5K0-953-569.clb
       Part No SW: 5K0 953 501 BD    HW: 5K0 953 569 J
       Component: LENKS.MODUL   014 0140
       Revision: FF010041    Serial number: 20121006300001
       Coding: 5180040000
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_VW360SteerWheelUDS A03004
       ROD: EV_VW360SteerWheelUDS.rod
       VCID: 6DDA1945BC5C252932-8038
    
    No fault code found.
    and the GVL reported 04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000 at that time.

    I haven't noticed a VW scan with Audi SWCM software (8X0 part number) but it doesn't sound like that is compatible and m87a is knowledgeable in this area. Since 03 is coded identically to the last known good scan and we know 5N1 44 modules do not have an internal G85 my only suggestion would be to code the installed 16 to the original value of: 5180040000

    If 16 accepts the original coding the G85 problem *might* be resolved but if it rejects the original coding I would consider it incorrect for this car.
    Dear Dana,

    I've followed your instructions and module worked!

    Thank you so much!!!

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    High beams not working!

    Right after I've changed the BCM (5K0 937 087 AB), test everything again, FOBs worked, Xenons worked BUT high beams won't. I've tried almost everything read on threads but no luck. I'm using Kufatec's adapters.

    Also MFD settings menu and audio menu disappeared! ????

    Any Help?? -Scan follows:

    Code:
    Sunday,21,May,2017,15:46:25:52699
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x64
    VCDS Version: 17.1.3.0 (x64)
    Data version: 20170320 DS267.7
    www.Ross-Tech.com
    
    
    VIN: WVGZZZ5NZDW043218   License Plate: NEW-8554
    Mileage: 117770km-73178mi   Repair Order: 
    
    
    
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    
    Chassis Type: 5N (7N0)
    Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 42 44 46 4C 52 53 56 61 62 72 77
             
    
    VIN: WVGZZZ5NZDW043218   Mileage: 117770km-73178miles
    
    01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
    04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
    25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
    42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
    44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
    4C-Tire Pressure II -- Status: OK 0000
    52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
    53-Parking Brake -- Status: OK 0000
    56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
    61-Battery Regul. -- Status: OK 0000
    62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
    72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
    77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000
     
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine (J623-CFFB)       Labels: 03L-906-018-CFF.clb
       Part No SW: 03L 906 018 LE    HW: 03L 907 309 AE
       Component: R4 2,0L EDC   H28 4571  
       Revision: 41H28---    Serial number: 00000000000000
       Coding: 00190012040401080000
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM20TDI01103L906018LE 003009
       ROD: EV_ECM20TDI01103L906018LE.rod
       VCID: 78F43811C31E9081D1-802C
    
    No fault code found.
    Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0 
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 5N0-614-109-C6.clb
       Part No SW: 5N0 614 109 AR    HW: 5N0 614 109 AR
       Component: J104   C6 450M VD5B 0006  
       Revision: --H07---    Serial number: 00000006258606
       Coding: 0037947
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       VCID: 7BFE271D3A28BB99BC-802E
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels: 5K0-907-044.clb
       Part No SW: 5K0 907 044 GJ    HW: 5K0 907 044 GJ
       Component: Climatronic   H19 1313  
       Revision: 00001004    
       Coding: 0010004003
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_Climatronic A01010
       ROD: EV_ClimaAutoBasis_VW36.rod
       VCID: 79F23D15F8148989AE-802C
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels: 1K0-937-08x-09.clb
       Part No SW: 5K0 937 087 AB    HW: 5K0 937 087 AB
       Component: BCM PQ35 H    122 0174  
       Revision: BE122001    
       Coding: 46180A38802502C0008800C0340089E84B75AB88436D8160E480C7240041
       Shop #: WSC 00020 790 12345
       VCID: 75EA3125DC0CEDE9CA-8020
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5N1 955 119     HW:              Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
       Component: Wischer 08101  013 0204 
       Serial number: N1955119   204!
       Coding: 009795
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 955 559 AH  Labels: 1K0-955-559-AG.CLB
       Component: RLS 051012 05  54  0403 
       Coding: 02304D
    
    1 Fault Found:
    00979 - Lamp for Low Beam; Right (M31) 
                010 - Open or Short to Plus
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01101010
                        Fault Priority: 1
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 91
                        Mileage: 117770 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2017.05.21
                        Time: 20:56:22
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                            Term 15 On
                        Voltage: 11.55 V
                            ON
                            ON
                            ON
                            OFF
                            OFF
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 5N0-959-655.lbl
       Part No SW: 5N0 959 655 AA    HW: 5N0 959 655 AA
       Component: J234__20J VW10 HI   2118  
       Revision: 24017000    Serial number: 003L7PLTU4Q.  
       Coding: 0012362
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       VCID: 7CFC24013F26BCA1B5-8028
    
       Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 6332MTS661652712 
    
       Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6342MTS670032702 
    
       Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6351HTS6P6IVBBKR 
    
       Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6361HTS6CUTADBKR 
    
       Subsystem 5 - Serial number: 00000000000000000
    
       Subsystem 6 - Serial number: 00000000000000000
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels: 8X0-953-569.clb
       Part No SW: 8X0 953 501 Q    HW: 5K0 953 569 AP
       Component: LENKS.MODUL   016 0140  
       Revision: FF010018    Serial number: 20140409200806
       Coding: 518A040000
       Shop #: WSC 00049 770 00118
       ASAM Dataset: EV_VW360SteerWheelUDS A03004
       ROD: EV_VW360SteerWheelUDS.rod
       VCID: 489488D1F37E200161-801C
    
       Multifunction steering wheel control module: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 542 C    HW: 5K0 959 542 C  Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
       Component: E221__MFL-TAS  H31 0033 
       Coding: 820000
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb
       Part No SW: 5N0 920 883 A    HW: 5N0 920 883 A
       Component: KOMBI         H05 0505  
       Serial number: 00000000000000
       Coding: 111F00
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04716
       ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_004_VW25.rod
       VCID: 3260CA3965E2BAD12F-8066
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels: 7N0-907-530-V2.clb
       Part No SW: 7N0 907 530 AC    HW: 7N0 907 530 AC
       Component: J533  Gateway H48 1633  
       Revision:   H48       Serial number: 270912F2000492
       Coding: 356002
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       VCID: 71E20535A864C1C916-8024
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
       Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234 
       Component: IMMO          H05 0505  
       Serial number: 00000000000000
       Coding: 000000
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03709
       ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_VW21.rod
       VCID: 6AD012598DB2321157-803E
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels: 3C0-959-70X-GEN4.clb
       Part No SW: 5N0 959 701 F    HW: 3C0 959 793 B
       Component: TUER-SG FT    002 0503  
       Revision: 13110009    Serial number: 0005716407
       Coding: 0200BC
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_TSGFPQ35BRFVW46X A04001
       ROD: EV_TSGFPQ35BRFVW46X.rod
       VCID: 3874F811839E508111-806C
    
       Slave Driver: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5N0 959 703 F    HW: 3C0 959 794 C  Labels: 1K0-959-70X-GEN4.CLB
       Component: J388__TSG-HL  008 1504 
       Serial number: 00000007278896      
       Coding: 000090
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 5N1-909-144.clb
       Part No SW: 5N1 909 144 N    HW: 5N1 909 148 G
       Component: J500__APA-BS KL.285 1101  
       Revision: 1AH03837    Serial number: 00122690267701
       Coding: 0000258
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       VCID: 3D7AE90564BC75A9C2-8068
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels: 3C0-959-70X-GEN4.clb
       Part No SW: 5N0 959 702 F    HW: 3C0 959 792 B
       Component: TUER-SG BT    002 0503  
       Revision: 15110009    Serial number: 0005756361
       Coding: 0200BC
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_TSGBPQ35BRFVW46X A04001
       ROD: EV_TSGBPQ35BRFVW46X.rod
       VCID: 3972FD15B8944989EE-806C
    
       Slave Passenger: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5N0 959 704 F    HW: 3C0 959 795 C  Labels: 1K0-959-70X-GEN4.CLB
       Component: J389__TSG-HR  008 1504 
       Serial number: 00000007283631      
       Coding: 000090
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 53: Parking Brake        Labels: 3AA-907-801.clb
       Part No SW: 3AA 907 801 H    HW: 3AA 907 801 H
       Component: J540 EPB4  VW-86594 0010  
       Revision:   H19       Serial number: 00000000511436
       Coding: 0026167
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       VCID: 3668F629418AA6F103-8062
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 56: Radio (J503)       Labels: 5M0-035-1xx-56.clb
       Part No SW: 5ND 035 190 B    HW: 5ND 035 190 B
       Component: RCD510USBRVC  003 0003  
       Revision: -----001    Serial number: VWZ4Z3R8092332
       Coding: 0100042504000C
       Shop #: WSC 79107 123 12345
       VCID: 3B7EE71DBAA87B99FC-806E
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 61: Battery Regul. (J840)       Labels: 1K0-907-534.clb
       Part No SW: 7N0 907 534     HW: 7N0 907 530 AC
       Component: Batt.regelung H48 1633  
       Serial number: 270912F2000492
       Coding: 030F1859
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       VCID: 71E20535A864C1C916-8024
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 1K0 915 181 H    HW: 1K0 915 181 A
       Component: J367-BDM  H07 0180 
       Serial number: 00000000008900271979
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 77: Telephone (J738)       Labels: 1K8-035-730.clb
       Part No SW: 1K8 035 730 D    HW: 1K8 035 730 D
       Component: Telefon       H08 6900  
       Revision: 00008000    Serial number: 00000A10634076
       Coding: 412120
       Shop #: WSC 00078 790 00199
       VCID: 2A50D2594532F21197-807E
    
    No fault code found.
    
    End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 02:34)--------------------------
    Last edited by Uwe; 05-21-2017 at 11:43 AM. Reason: CODE tags

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    for high beam check if in kufatec adapter from old connector pin4 goes to pin11 or if there are 2 extra wires in new connector pin11 which needs to be connected to bcm, this depends on the adapter how is it wired but also on your car, current wiring
    pin11 controls high beams or solenoids

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    High beams won't work

    Quote Originally Posted by m87a View Post
    for high beam check if in kufatec adapter from old connector pin4 goes to pin11 or if there are 2 extra wires in new connector pin11 which needs to be connected to bcm, this depends on the adapter how is it wired but also on your car, current wiring
    pin11 controls high beams or solenoids
    Hello m87a! thanks for replying again!

    Kufatec adapter (and current wiring):

    Old Pin 1 goes to new pin 4
    Old Pin 2 goes to none
    Old Pin 3 goes to new pin 14
    Old Pin 4 goes to new pin 12
    Old Pin 5 goes to new pin 5
    Old Pin 6 goes to new pin 6
    Old Pin 7 goes to new pin 7 to Ground
    Old pin 8 goes to new 11. There are no extra pin 11 cables to BCM
    Old Pin 9 goes to new pin 9
    Old Pin 10 goes to new pin 10

    Do you also have any idea why MFD and audio settings gone away from MFD after replacing BCM? -same coding-

    By the way that Audi A1 slip ring worked right after Dana's instructions...

    Best regards,
    Nikolaos

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    sorry pin4 to pin12 not 11 my mistake

    ok you need to move these 2 wires on cecm
    from
    T52A (black connector) pin5 to T52C (brown) pin48 &
    T52C (brown) pin46 to T52C (brown) to pin49
    with this high beam will work

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    High beams still not working!

    Quote Originally Posted by m87a View Post
    sorry pin4 to pin12 not 11 my mistake

    ok you need to move these 2 wires on cecm
    from
    T52A (black connector) pin5 to T52C (brown) pin48 &
    T52C (brown) pin46 to T52C (brown) to pin49
    with this high beam will work
    Dear m87a, thnaks for the tip, but I've done all described without success!

    Any other tips? What about coding ?

    Dana??

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    do you have physically pin11 on headlights??? because Tiguan also came with inteligent adaptive light which doesn't have pin 11 for high beam, instead it's operated via can wires, AFS can module controls low/hiogh beam and adapt it

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    High beams still not working!

    Quote Originally Posted by m87a View Post
    do you have physically pin11 on headlights??? because Tiguan also came with inteligent adaptive light which doesn't have pin 11 for high beam, instead it's operated via can wires, AFS can module controls low/hiogh beam and adapt it
    I have no AFS installed. I've tried already direct cable from pin 11 to CECM pins 48 and 49 with no luck!

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    it's not about AFS it's wheather your headlights have pin 11 in connector, meaning solenoid for high beam if not they are intelligent headlights and you cant get them to operate highbeam without AFS ok? check headlight connector is pin 11 present

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    High beams still not working!

    Quote Originally Posted by m87a View Post
    it's not about AFS it's wheather your headlights have pin 11 in connector, meaning solenoid for high beam if not they are intelligent headlights and you cant get them to operate highbeam without AFS ok? check headlight connector is pin 11 present
    Thanks for your response m87a!!!

    Indeed my lights have no pin 11 ! So what could I do??? Any suggestions???? How could I immitate AFS? Could I just install the controller without the sensor? If so, what kind of cabling modification should I do?

    Best regards,
    Nicolas!

    Thanks so much for your help!

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