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I am researching this job before starting- I am only investigating as there is a random clunk when tur and I read that there are well recorded problems with these steering racks ( I am basically assuming the worst in advance, happy not to be right!)
My non-genuine parts supplier warned me that according to VIN the car has a Gen 2 steering rack and I would only likely be able to get a new unit which is Gen 3 which should be backwards compatible. Elsawin confirms this saying Gen 2 is no longer available from Audi although I have not called Audi to check. Part number of the steering rack listed by VIN is 1K1 423 055 K
I have read Ross-Tech WIKI for the Golf MK5 1K found here: http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/VW_Golf_(1K)_Steering_Assist
I assume this is the same type of system as I have on the A3 due to similar age.
From the WIKI, most notably I see the note at the very bottom i.e.:
"After Replacing this Control Module several Steps have to be performed in the following Order:
Check/Update Steering Aid Adaptation Channels 002-009
Perform Basic Setting for Steering Angle Sensor (G85)
Perform Steering Limit Stop Adaptation
Upload/Install a proper Characteristic Curve
Characteristic Curves need to be uploaded with the Factory Tool which has the latest Brand Version installed as well as access to the latest Flash Updates. Unless you have a Factory Tool which meets these Requirements the only Solution to accomplish this Step is to take the Car to the Dealer and have them perform this.
In case you are having trouble with procedure please contact us directly and we will assist you with the Coding Process. Every inquiry on this topic has to include a full Auto-Scan as well as which parts have been replaced and why, also make sure the Auto-Scan includes the complete VIN of the vehicle in question."
My questions:
1) Can I conclude that there is still no way I will be able to upload/install a characteristic curve for a newly fitted steering rack using VCDS?
2) Assuming no to the above, will I be able to drive the car without the characteristic curve installed the 10 miles or so the nearest dealer having done everything else?
thanks in advance
Andrew
My non-genuine parts supplier warned me that according to VIN the car has a Gen 2 steering rack and I would only likely be able to get a new unit which is Gen 3 which should be backwards compatible. Elsawin confirms this saying Gen 2 is no longer available from Audi although I have not called Audi to check. Part number of the steering rack listed by VIN is 1K1 423 055 K
I have read Ross-Tech WIKI for the Golf MK5 1K found here: http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/VW_Golf_(1K)_Steering_Assist
I assume this is the same type of system as I have on the A3 due to similar age.
From the WIKI, most notably I see the note at the very bottom i.e.:
"After Replacing this Control Module several Steps have to be performed in the following Order:
Check/Update Steering Aid Adaptation Channels 002-009
Perform Basic Setting for Steering Angle Sensor (G85)
Perform Steering Limit Stop Adaptation
Upload/Install a proper Characteristic Curve
Characteristic Curves need to be uploaded with the Factory Tool which has the latest Brand Version installed as well as access to the latest Flash Updates. Unless you have a Factory Tool which meets these Requirements the only Solution to accomplish this Step is to take the Car to the Dealer and have them perform this.
In case you are having trouble with procedure please contact us directly and we will assist you with the Coding Process. Every inquiry on this topic has to include a full Auto-Scan as well as which parts have been replaced and why, also make sure the Auto-Scan includes the complete VIN of the vehicle in question."
My questions:
1) Can I conclude that there is still no way I will be able to upload/install a characteristic curve for a newly fitted steering rack using VCDS?
2) Assuming no to the above, will I be able to drive the car without the characteristic curve installed the 10 miles or so the nearest dealer having done everything else?
thanks in advance
Andrew
Code:
Saturday,10,September,2016,10:24:39:31207
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 16.8.1.3 (x64)
Data version: 20160902 DS256
www.Ross-Tech.com
VIN: WAUZZZ8P18A095741 License Plate:
Mileage: 163610km-101662mi Repair Order:
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Chassis Type: 8P (1K0)
Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 42 44 46 47 52 56 62 72
VIN: WAUZZZ8P18A095741 Mileage: 163610km-101662miles
01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: Malfunction 0010
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
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Address 01: Engine Labels: 03G-906-021-BLS.clb
Part No SW: 03G 906 021 RD HW: 03G 906 021 AB
Component: R4 1,9L EDC 000SG 1889
Revision: --H07--- Serial number: AUX7Z0G9FNO10C
Coding: 0000071
Shop #: WSC 00347 219 107223
VCID: 72E0125E6DD6C6D2A8-8026
No fault code found.
Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0
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Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK60-F.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 AC HW: 1K0 907 379 AC
Component: ESP FRONT MK60 0101
Revision: 00H11001
Coding: 0021122
Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
VCID: 73EE175A12CCCFDAA3-8026
No fault code found.
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Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: 8P0-820-043.lbl
Part No SW: 8P0 820 043 AG HW: 8P0 820 043 AG
Component: KlimavollautomatH19 0420
Revision: 206333 Serial number: 8P0820043AG
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 71E21D5268D0FDCA51-8024
No fault code found.
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Address 09: Cent. Elect. Labels: 8P0-907-279-30-H.lbl
Part No SW: 8P0 907 279 K HW: 8P0 907 279 K
Component: Bordnetz-SG H54 2501
Revision: 00H54000 Serial number: 00000007784848
Coding: 0D880F01901410004F1600001600000000084E175C010000000000000000
Shop #: WSC 06314 000 08192
VCID: 458A99820CD8016ADD-8010
Subsystem 1 - Part No: 8P1 955 119 E Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
Component: Wischer AU350 H01 0130
Coding: 00062736
Shop #: WSC 06314
No fault code found.
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Address 15: Airbags Labels: 8P0-959-655-94.lbl
Part No SW: 8P0 959 655 L HW: 8P0 959 655 L
Component: Airbag 9.41 H01 4210
Revision: 91H01421 Serial number: 003CP001FV45
Coding: 0070612
Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
VCID: 4B9EAFBA2ABCF71A0B-801E
Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 6332DRB4060448B2I
Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6342DRB40604C92CT
Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 63528RB402F75C52S
Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 63628RB40325F8EA
Subsystem 5 - Serial number: 63747RB402FAC0D6+
Subsystem 6 - Serial number: 63847RB402E40A18N
No fault code found.
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Address 16: Steering wheel Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 AH HW: 1K0 953 549 AH
Component: J0527 036 0070
Coding: 0000012
Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
VCID: 78F420760BAAAC8296-802C
No fault code found.
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Address 17: Instruments Labels: 8P0-920-xxx-17-MY8.clb
Part No SW: 8P0 920 931 E HW: 8P0 920 931 E
Component: KOMBIINSTR. VDO H20 0640
Revision: D0H20001 Serial number: 2249G001111111
Coding: 0004128
Shop #: WSC 39920 001 1048576
VCID: 356AE9425C3891EA4D-8060
1 Fault Found:
01299 - Diagnostic Interface for Data Bus (J533)
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 1
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 154
Time Indication: 0
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Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels: 1K0-907-530-V3.clb
Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 P HW: 1K0 907 951
Component: J533__Gateway H16 0191
Revision: H16 Serial number: 2000K07A20817E
Coding: E9807F061002022102
Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
VCID: 346CD446574288E27A-8060
No fault code found.
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Address 25: Immobilizer Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
Part No SW: 8P0 920 931 E HW: 8P0 920 931 E
Component: KOMBIINSTR. VDO H20 0640
Revision: D0H20001 Serial number: AUX7Z0G9FNO10C
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 356AE9425C3891EA4D-8060
No fault code found.
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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver Labels: 8P0-959-801-MIN3.lbl
Part No SW: 8P0 959 801 K HW: 8P0 959 801 K
Component: Tuer-SG H03 0050
Coding: 0000248
Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
VCID: 438E879A02EC3F5AF3-8016
No fault code found.
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Address 44: Steering Assist Labels: 1Kx-909-14x-44.clb
Part No: 1K1 909 144 M
Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.078 H08 1901
Shop #: WSC 02069 000 90108
VCID: 356AE9425C3891EA4D-8060
No fault code found.
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Address 46: Central Conv. Labels: 8P0-959-433.lbl
Part No: 8P0 959 433 L
Component: KSG H11 0080
Coding: 0080202002186D0985054C8F0167
Shop #: WSC 00350 219 17401
VCID: 458A99820CD8016ADD-8010
Subsystem 1 - Component: Sounder n.mounted
Subsystem 2 - Component: NGS n.mounted
Subsystem 3 - Component: IRUE n.mounted
No fault code found.
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Address 47: Sound System Labels: 8Px-035-382.lbl
Part No SW: 8P4 035 382 D HW: 8P4 035 382 D
Component: AB2 SUBWOOFERBOXH06 0180
Revision: 00005 Serial number: 30674703339456
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 356AE9425C3891EA4D-8060
No fault code found.
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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. Labels: 1K0-959-702-MIN3.lbl
Part No SW: 8P0 959 802 K HW: 8P0 959 802 K
Component: Tuer-SG H03 0050
Coding: 0000248
Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
VCID: 448C848607E23862CA-8010
No fault code found.
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Address 56: Radio Labels: 8J0-035-1xx-56.clb
Part No SW: 8P0 035 186 P HW: 8P0 035 186 P
Component: R Concert2+ H01 0270
Revision: 00H01000 Serial number: AUZ1Z3G6845465
Coding: 0030211
Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
VCID: 3F868B6A6E045BBA97-806A
1 Fault Found:
00857 - CD Changer Unit (R41)
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 5
Fault Frequency: 24
Reset counter: 171
Mileage: 160743 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2016.07.07
Time: 22:49:48
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Address 62: Door, Rear Left Labels: 8P4-959-801.lbl
Part No SW: 8P4 959 801 E HW: 8P4 959 801 E
Component: Tuer-SG H04 0040
Coding: 0000216
Shop #: WSC 06314 000 1012544
VCID: 41828D9218F02D4AE1-8014
No fault code found.
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Address 72: Door, Rear Right Labels: 8P4-959-802.lbl
Part No SW: 8P4 959 802 E HW: 8P4 959 802 E
Component: Tuer-SG H04 0040
Coding: 0000216
Shop #: WSC 06314 000 1012544
VCID: 4280829E1DF63652F8-8016
No fault code found.
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