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Hello to all,
I am really hoping someone out there might have some knowledge or ideas about what is happening to my car. I've already gotten some pretty decent advice from some 'car minds', but we've still not been able to fix the problem.
MAIN PROBLEM: CAR RUNS ROUGH BUT DOES NOT TRIGGER AND FAULT CODES WITH STOCK SOFTWARE/ PROGRAM. 3 ATTEMPTS TO RUN 'STAGE 2 SOFTWARE' HAS RESULTED IN CONTINUED FAULT CODES AND LIMP MODE. (please see below)
2002 VW GTI 1.8T AWP
Chassis Type: 1J (1J - VW Golf/Bora IV (1998 > 2006))
Modifications: Stage 2 Tune, cold air intake, 2 or 2.5" down pipe, high flow muffler (I'm sorry I can't remember what model or type), NGK Iridium IX spark plugs
See below first Auto-Scan done on July 07, 2014
See below 2nd Auto-Scan done on July 10, 2014
Both Auto-scan's are the same except for the second fault code in the "Engine" section.
This is the third ECU/ ECM that we've installed in the last 10 months. The first ecu was a "06A 906 032 HS", the 2nd was "06A 906 032 LP" and the current ecu in the car is a new/ used "06A 906 032 HS" from a nearby auto wrecker.
The current "06A 906 032 HS" ecu was working decently with an unmolested stock program/ settings. The adaptation went semi smoothly. It was running a little rough, quite a bit of vibrations when idling. None the less it worked for around 3 months without any fault codes or limp mode happening. I decided to be a little over exuberant and put the Stage 2 tune back in. After and hour or two of driving the car with the new stage 2 tune, the EPC & traction control cluster lights came back on and the car went into limp mode. I cleared all the codes and got about 4 days of driving out of it until the car went back into limp mode with the corresponding cluster lights. For some reason this car does not like tunes or the ecu to be tampered with. Is this acceptable or is there a solution to this problem?
I bought this car with a stage 2 tune and wanted to go fast. Now its broken down
The only conclusion I can come up with is that the stage 2 tune is running the engine harder/ hotter and in turn the wiring and circuits are heating up causing all sorts of problems.
Also...before installing the second ECU/ ECM, we installed a new Accelerator Module as the fault code read;17579 - Angle Sensor 2 for Throttle Actuator (G188) Implausible Signal P1171 - 35-10 - - Intermittent. The new Accelerator Module is part# 6Q1 721 503 M. It seems with the new Accelerator Module installed; nothing has changed and the fault code keeps appearing. (keep in mind the above fault codes only appear after installing the stage 2 tune)
Any help would be more then appreciated. This has been driving me crazy. I've been walking and taking the bus on and off for the last 10 or so months. lol....
Thanks
After reverting back to a Stock flash (July 27), 2 days later of driving the car the below fault codes came back. I was under the impression that if you save the stock flash file (which we did) and revert back to stock, that the car's ecu is wiped clean and the cars ecu is stock. Maybe not the case?
thanks.
I am really hoping someone out there might have some knowledge or ideas about what is happening to my car. I've already gotten some pretty decent advice from some 'car minds', but we've still not been able to fix the problem.
MAIN PROBLEM: CAR RUNS ROUGH BUT DOES NOT TRIGGER AND FAULT CODES WITH STOCK SOFTWARE/ PROGRAM. 3 ATTEMPTS TO RUN 'STAGE 2 SOFTWARE' HAS RESULTED IN CONTINUED FAULT CODES AND LIMP MODE. (please see below)
2002 VW GTI 1.8T AWP
Chassis Type: 1J (1J - VW Golf/Bora IV (1998 > 2006))
Modifications: Stage 2 Tune, cold air intake, 2 or 2.5" down pipe, high flow muffler (I'm sorry I can't remember what model or type), NGK Iridium IX spark plugs
See below first Auto-Scan done on July 07, 2014
Code:
Monday,07,July,2014,15:01:49:50875
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator
VCDS Version: 12.12.2.0 (x64)
Data version: 20140212
VIN: 9BWDE21J7240xxxxx Mileage: 144860km/90011miles
Chassis Type: 1J (1J - VW Golf/Bora IV (1998 > 2006))
Scan: 01 02 03 08 15 16 17 19 22 29 35 36 37 39 46 47 55 56 57 75
76
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine Labels: 06A-906-032-AWP.lbl
Part No: 06A 906 032 HS
Component: 1.8L R4/5VT G 0008
Coding: 07500
Shop #: WSC 00000
VCID: 76EDE6CC520186AEB1B-513C
3VWSE69M62M193142 VWZ7Z0B4932131
2 Faults Found:
17705 - Pressure Drop between Turbo and Throttle Valve (check D.V.!)
P1297 - 35-10 - - Intermittent
17579 - Angle Sensor 2 for Throttle Actuator (G188) Implausible Signal
P1171 - 35-10 - - Intermittent
Readiness: 0000 0000
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 1C0-907-37x-ASR.lbl
Part No: 1C0 907 379 K
Component: ASR FRONT MK60 0103
Coding: 0021505
Shop #: WSC 00000 785 00200
VCID: 32651ADCAEE9DA8E5D3-513C
1 Fault Found:
01314 - Engine Control Module
013 - Check DTC Memory - Intermittent
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 15: Airbags Labels: 6Q0-909-605-VW5.lbl
Part No: 1C0 909 605 A
Component: 1M AIRBAG VW51 02 0004
Coding: 12621
Shop #: WSC 00000
VCID: 2245EA9CAE094A0EAD3-5102
1 Fault Found:
00591 - Seat Belt Switch; Driver (E24)
32-10 - Resistance Too High - Intermittent
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 17: Instruments Labels: 1J0-920-xx5-17.lbl
Part No: 1J0 920 806 J
Component: KOMBI+WEGFAHRSP VDO V07
Coding: 07332
Shop #: WSC 00000
VCID: 2E5D0EACEAD1FE6E39B-5102
9BWDE21J7240xxxxx VWZ7Z0B5281213
1 Fault Found:
01177 - Engine Control Unit
64-10 - Not Currently Testable - Intermittent
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels: 6N0-909-901-19.lbl
Part No: 6N0 909 901
Component: Gateway K<->CAN 0001
Coding: 00006
Shop #: WSC 00000
VCID: F0E150D4B065289EEB7-5120
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 46: Central Conv. Labels: 1C0-959-799.lbl
Part No: 1C0 959 799 C
Component: 1J Komfortgerát HLO 0003
Coding: 00064
Shop #: WSC 00000
VCID: 37732BC8158B3FA66AD-4B00
Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1C1959801A
Component: 1J Tõrsteuer.FS KLO 0002
Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1C1959802A
Component: 1J Tõrsteuer.BF KLO 0002
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 56: Radio Labels: 3B7-035-1xx-56.lbl
Part No: 3B7 035 180 E
Component: Radio ZSW 0010
Coding: 00031
Shop #: WSC 00000
VCID: 2245EA9CAE094A0EAD3-5120
No fault code found.
End ---------------------------------------------------------------------See below 2nd Auto-Scan done on July 10, 2014
Code:
Thursday,10,July,2014,19:14:08:50875
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator
VCDS Version: 12.12.2.0 (x64)
Data version: 20140212
VIN: 9BWDE21J7240xxxxx Mileage: 144890km/90030miles
Chassis Type: 1J (1J - VW Golf/Bora IV (1998 > 2006))
Scan: 01 02 03 08 15 16 17 19 22 29 35 36 37 39 46 47 55 56 57 75
76
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine Labels: 06A-906-032-AWP.lbl
Part No: 06A 906 032 HS
Component: 1.8L R4/5VT G 0008
Coding: 07500
Shop #: WSC 00000
VCID: 76EDE6CC520186AEB1B-513C
3VWSE69M62M193142 VWZ7Z0B4932131
2 Faults Found:
17705 - Pressure Drop between Turbo and Throttle Valve (check D.V.!)
P1297 - 35-00 -
17972 - Throttle Actuator (J338)
P1564 - 35-10 - Under-Voltage during Basic Setting - Intermittent
Readiness: 0000 0000
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 1C0-907-37x-ASR.lbl
Part No: 1C0 907 379 K
Component: ASR FRONT MK60 0103
Coding: 0021505
Shop #: WSC 00000 785 00200
VCID: 32651ADCAEE9DA8E5D3-513C
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 15: Airbags Labels: 6Q0-909-605-VW5.lbl
Part No: 1C0 909 605 A
Component: 1M AIRBAG VW51 02 0004
Coding: 12621
Shop #: WSC 00000
VCID: 2245EA9CAE094A0EAD3-5102
1 Fault Found:
00591 - Seat Belt Switch; Driver (E24)
32-10 - Resistance Too High - Intermittent
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 17: Instruments Labels: 1J0-920-xx5-17.lbl
Part No: 1J0 920 806 J
Component: KOMBI+WEGFAHRSP VDO V07
Coding: 07332
Shop #: WSC 00000
VCID: 2E5D0EACEAD1FE6E39B-5120
9BWDE21J7240xxxxx VWZ7Z0B5281213
1 Fault Found:
01177 - Engine Control Unit
64-10 - Not Currently Testable - Intermittent
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels: 6N0-909-901-19.lbl
Part No: 6N0 909 901
Component: Gateway K<->CAN 0001
Coding: 00006
Shop #: WSC 00000
VCID: F0E150D4B065289EEB7-5102
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 46: Central Conv. Labels: 1C0-959-799.lbl
Part No: 1C0 959 799 C
Component: 1J Komfortgerát HLO 0003
Coding: 00064
Shop #: WSC 00000
VCID: 37732BC8158B3FA66AD-4B18
Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1C1959801A
Component: 1J Tõrsteuer.FS KLO 0002
Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1C1959802A
Component: 1J Tõrsteuer.BF KLO 0002
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 56: Radio Labels: 3B7-035-1xx-56.lbl
Part No: 3B7 035 180 E
Component: Radio ZSW 0010
Coding: 00031
Shop #: WSC 00000
VCID: 2245EA9CAE094A0EAD3-5120
No fault code found.
End ---------------------------------------------------------------------Both Auto-scan's are the same except for the second fault code in the "Engine" section.
This is the third ECU/ ECM that we've installed in the last 10 months. The first ecu was a "06A 906 032 HS", the 2nd was "06A 906 032 LP" and the current ecu in the car is a new/ used "06A 906 032 HS" from a nearby auto wrecker.
The current "06A 906 032 HS" ecu was working decently with an unmolested stock program/ settings. The adaptation went semi smoothly. It was running a little rough, quite a bit of vibrations when idling. None the less it worked for around 3 months without any fault codes or limp mode happening. I decided to be a little over exuberant and put the Stage 2 tune back in. After and hour or two of driving the car with the new stage 2 tune, the EPC & traction control cluster lights came back on and the car went into limp mode. I cleared all the codes and got about 4 days of driving out of it until the car went back into limp mode with the corresponding cluster lights. For some reason this car does not like tunes or the ecu to be tampered with. Is this acceptable or is there a solution to this problem?
I bought this car with a stage 2 tune and wanted to go fast. Now its broken down
The only conclusion I can come up with is that the stage 2 tune is running the engine harder/ hotter and in turn the wiring and circuits are heating up causing all sorts of problems.
Also...before installing the second ECU/ ECM, we installed a new Accelerator Module as the fault code read;17579 - Angle Sensor 2 for Throttle Actuator (G188) Implausible Signal P1171 - 35-10 - - Intermittent. The new Accelerator Module is part# 6Q1 721 503 M. It seems with the new Accelerator Module installed; nothing has changed and the fault code keeps appearing. (keep in mind the above fault codes only appear after installing the stage 2 tune)
Any help would be more then appreciated. This has been driving me crazy. I've been walking and taking the bus on and off for the last 10 or so months. lol....
Thanks
After reverting back to a Stock flash (July 27), 2 days later of driving the car the below fault codes came back. I was under the impression that if you save the stock flash file (which we did) and revert back to stock, that the car's ecu is wiped clean and the cars ecu is stock. Maybe not the case?
thanks.
Code:
Tuesday,29,July,2014,20:26:03:50875
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator
VCDS Version: 12.12.2.0 (x64)
Data version: 20140212
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Chassis Type: 1J (1J - VW Golf/Bora IV (1998 > 2006))
Scan: 01 02 03 08 15 16 17 19 22 29 35 36 37 39 46 47 55 56 57 75
76
VIN: 9BWDE21J7240xxxxx Mileage: 145030km/90117miles
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine Labels: 06A-906-032-AWP.lbl
Part No: 06A 906 032 HS
Component: 1.8L R4/5VT G 0008
Coding: 07500
Shop #: WSC 00000
VCID: 76EDE6CC520186AEB1B-5120
3VWSE69M62M193142 VWZ7Z0B4932131
1 Fault Found:
17579 - Angle Sensor 2 for Throttle Actuator (G188) Implausible Signal
P1171 - 35-10 - - Intermittent
Readiness: 0000 1001
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 1C0-907-37x-ASR.lbl
Part No: 1C0 907 379 K
Component: ASR FRONT MK60 0103
Coding: 0021505
Shop #: WSC 00000 785 00200
VCID: 32651ADCAEE9DA8E5D3-513C
1 Fault Found:
01314 - Engine Control Module
013 - Check DTC Memory - Intermittent
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 15: Airbags Labels: 6Q0-909-605-VW5.lbl
Part No: 1C0 909 605 A
Component: 1M AIRBAG VW51 02 0004
Coding: 12621
Shop #: WSC 00000
VCID: 2245EA9CAE094A0EAD3-5102
1 Fault Found:
00591 - Seat Belt Switch; Driver (E24)
32-10 - Resistance Too High - Intermittent
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 17: Instruments Labels: 1J0-920-xx5-17.lbl
Part No: 1J0 920 806 J
Component: KOMBI+WEGFAHRSP VDO V07
Coding: 07332
Shop #: WSC 00000
VCID: 2E5D0EACEAD1FE6E39B-5102
9BWDE21J7240xxxxx VWZ7Z0B5281213
1 Fault Found:
01177 - Engine Control Unit
64-10 - Not Currently Testable - Intermittent
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels: 6N0-909-901-19.lbl
Part No: 6N0 909 901
Component: Gateway K<->CAN 0001
Coding: 00006
Shop #: WSC 00000
VCID: F0E150D4B065289EEB7-5102
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 46: Central Conv. Labels: 1C0-959-799.lbl
Part No: 1C0 959 799 C
Component: 1J Komfortgerát HLO 0003
Coding: 00064
Shop #: WSC 00000
VCID: 37732BC8158B3FA66AD-4B18
Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1C1959801A
Component: 1J Tõrsteuer.FS KLO 0002
Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1C1959802A
Component: 1J Tõrsteuer.BF KLO 0002
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 56: Radio Labels: 3B7-035-1xx-56.lbl
Part No: 3B7 035 180 E
Component: Radio ZSW 0010
Coding: 00031
Shop #: WSC 00000
VCID: 2245EA9CAE094A0EAD3-5120
No fault code found.
End ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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