B7 S4 Automatic transmission won't reset learned values + ESP G419 Issue

[LeeO]

Hello All!

New to Ross-Tech, VCDS, and the forum - looks like a cool place!

So, I've just spent the last two years rebuilding a B7 S4, I rebuilt the engine, and the mechatronics unit with new solenoids, separator plate, stem seals, etc. Before installing the engine, I also replaced brittle connectors on just about every plug in the engine bay with new ones.

I've started the car and driven around the neighborhood - the engine runs great but it shocks into gear on every shift (even 6th!). I expected like this if it had learned poorly flowing old solenoids during it's past life, but my problem is I cannot get the transmission to reset learned values. The Basic Settings button under automatic transmission is grayed out on VCDS and I cannot select it. I tried Adaptives Reset with moving forward and backward 20meters, but that doesn't seem to have helped at all. If someone could help guide me on how to activate the transmission learned values reset, I'd appreciate it.

Second issue - ESP G419 No Communication. I thought maybe the unit died while the car sat as a shell for a few years, or maybe a voltage spike, etc. etc. I replaced the unit and the ESP light and ABS light are still on. All the fuses on driver side dash are OK, battery voltage is OK, in VCDS I can see plausible wheel speeds from all four corners, steering sensor plausible values too. Not sure where to look next. Some suggestions would be appreciated!

Sunday,11,August,2019,15:39:27:57034
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x64
VCDS Version: 19.6.1.0 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4508.4
Data version: 20190529 DS308.0
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VIN: WAUGL68E35A497598   License Plate: 
Mileage: 237320km-147463mi   Repair Order: 



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Chassis Type: 8E (8E - Audi A4/S4/RS4 B6/B7 (2001 > 2008))
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 0F 11 15 16 17 18 25 36 37 45 46 55 56 57 65
          67 69 75 76 77
 
VIN: WAUGL68E35A497598   Mileage: 237320km-147463miles
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Address 01: Engine        Labels: 079-910-560-BBK.lbl
   Part No SW: 8E0 910 560 M    HW: 4E0 907 560 
   Component: 4.2L V8/5V      G   0010  
   Revision: --------    Serial number:               
   Coding: 0007771
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: 2F3B138C0B10A0DF633-807A

2 Faults Found:
18043 - Powertrain Data Bus 
            P1635 - 008 - Missing Message from A/C Controller - Intermittent
18010 - Power Supply Terminal 30 
            P1602 - 002 - Voltage too Low
Readiness: 0110 1101

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Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 09L-927-760.lbl
   Part No SW: 8E0 910 156 M    HW: 09L 927 156 
   Component: AG6 09L  4.2L5V USA 0040  
   Revision: --H01---    Serial number:        0087005
   Coding: 0000002
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: 303910F0162EBF277A9-8064

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 8E0-910-517.clb
   Part No SW: 8E0 910 517 C    HW: 8E0 614 517 BB
   Component: ESP8 quattro    H04 0180  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 0004902
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: 270BFBAC23E0F89FAB3-8072

3 Faults Found:
00493 - ESP-Sensor Unit (G419) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 6
                    Reset counter: 40
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                    Hex Value: 0x00C0
                    Hex Value: 0x4302
                    Hex Value: 0x00FF
                    Hex Value: 0xFFA7
                    Hex Value: 0x00FF

01486 - System Function Test Activated 
            000 - -
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 9
                    Reset counter: 40
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                    Hex Value: 0x0000
                    Hex Value: 0x4222
                    Hex Value: 0x00FF
                    Hex Value: 0xFF98
                    Hex Value: 0x00FF

01826 - Sensor for Steering Angle (G85); Supply Voltage Terminal 30 
            000 - - - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100000
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 40
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                    Hex Value: 0x0000
                    Hex Value: 0x4222
                    Hex Value: 0x00FF
                    Hex Value: 0xFF91
                    Hex Value: 0x00FF


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Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 8E0-820-043.lbl
   Part No: 8E0 820 043 AM
   Component:   A4 Klimaautomat   2731  
   Coding: 00000
   Shop #: WSC 00000  
   VCID: 6C81C480FF961BC7061-5160

2 Faults Found:
00819 - High Pressure Sensor (G65) 
            07-10 - Signal too Low - Intermittent
01206 - Signal for Duration of Ignition Off Time 
            27-00 - Implausible Signal

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Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels: 8E0-907-279-8EC.lbl
   Part No: 8E0 907 279 J
   Component: int. Lastmodul  USA 0503  
   Coding: 01023
   Shop #: WSC 65536  
   VCID: 392F2DD4C0447E6FCD7-4B00

2 Faults Found:
01326 - Control Module for Multi-Function Steering Wheel (J453) 
            49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent
01320 - Control Module for Climatronic (J255) 
            49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent

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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 8E0-959-655-94.lbl
   Part No SW: 8E0 959 655 H    HW: 8E0 959 655 H
   Component:    Airbag 9.41  H10 3230  
   Revision: 91H10323    Serial number: 0036N0009PM2  
   Coding: 0032607
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: 3C2134C0CA664B47D61-8068

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 8E0 910 339 B
   Component: BF-Gewichtsens. 02  0070  
   Serial number: 6332DRB4016E4928R
   Coding: 00032607

   Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6342DRB4016C92A5T

   Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6352ARB4004C81D2M

   Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6362ARB4004D1297J

   Subsystem 5 - Serial number: 63729RB4004C9C51Q

   Subsystem 6 - Serial number: 63829RB400E31923G

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 8E0-953-549.lbl
   Part No: 8E0 953 549 Q
   Component: Lenksáulenmodul     0601  
   Coding: 02141
   Shop #: WSC 06335  
   VCID: 41DF4534A89426AF857-4B00

2 Faults Found:
01317 - Control Module in Instrument Cluster (J285) 
            49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent
01304 - Radio 
            49-00 - No Communications

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Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 8E0-920-9xx-8EC.lbl
   Part No SW: 8E0 920 981 Q    HW: 8E0 920 981 Q
   Component: KOMBI+WFS 4     H12 0040  
   Revision: 0040        Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 0023261
   Shop #: WSC 22122 444 92497
   VCID: 3B2337DCCF784C7FDFB-5184

3 Faults Found:
01320 - Control Module for Climatronic (J255) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
01304 - Radio 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
01300 - Control Module for Navigation with CD-Rom (J401) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication

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Address 25: Immobilizer        Labels: 8E0-920-9xx-8EC.lbl
   Part No SW: 8E0 920 981 Q    HW: 8E0 920 981 Q
   Component: KOMBI+WFS 4     H12 0040  
   Revision: 0040        Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 0023261
   Shop #: WSC 22122 444 92497
   VCID: 3B2337DCCF784C7FDFB-5184

3 Faults Found:
01320 - Control Module for Climatronic (J255) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
01304 - Radio 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
01300 - Control Module for Navigation with CD-Rom (J401) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication

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Address 36: Seat Mem. Drvr        Labels: 8E0-959-760.lbl
   Part No: 8E0 959 760 
   Component: Sitzmemory R2 F     0305  
   Coding: 00002
   Shop #: WSC 00000  
   VCID: 71BFD5F4D884F62F357-4B3C

2 Faults Found:
01317 - Control Module in Instrument Cluster (J285) 
            49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent
00466 - Control Module for Steering Column Electronics (J527) 
            49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent

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Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels:. 8E0-959-433-MAX.clb
   Part No: 8E0 959 433 BT
   Component: Komfortgerát T7B    3132  
   Coding: 11836
   Shop #: WSC 06335  
   VCID: 04518C20F706F387EE1-4B00

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 8E1959801F
   Component: Tõrsteuer.FS BRM 0305  

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 8E1959802E
   Component: Tõrsteuer.BF BRM 0205  

   Subsystem 3 - Part No: 8E0959801A
   Component: Tõrsteuer.HL BRM 0205  

   Subsystem 4 - Part No: 8E0959802A
   Component: Tõrsteuer.HR BRM 0205  

4 Faults Found:
01320 - Control Module for Climatronic (J255) 
            49-00 - No Communications
00962 - Alarm via. Tilt Sensor 
            35-00 - -
00955 - Key 1 
            35-10 - - - Intermittent
01331 - Door Control Module; Driver Side (J386) 
            80-10 - Single-Wire Operation - Intermittent

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Address 55: Headlight Range        Labels: 4F0-910-357.lbl
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 357 C    HW: 4F0 907 357 C
   Component: AFS 1           H01 0020  
   Revision: 00000001    Serial number:               
   Coding: 0000019
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: 2615F6A824EAE197905-8072

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 8E0 941 329 
   Component: AFS-Modul links H02 0020

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 8E0 941 329 
   Component: AFS-Modul rechtsH02 0020

1 Fault Found:
00496 - Sensor for Vehicle Leveling; Front 
            008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101000
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 19
                    Reset counter: 35
                    Time Indication: 0


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[PetrolDave]

How many of those fault codes are current? There look to be some that MAY be historical - try clearing all fault codes and see which remain would be my suggestion for the first step.

 

[Uwe]

I don't see any explicit "learned values" reset in this TCM.

Slamming into every gear sounds like a pressure control problem, but I'm by far not an expert on automatic transmissions.

-Uwe-

 

[Jack@European_Parts]

Sounds like a BAD MAF!

 

[LeeO]

Thanks for the info guys! Do you think the MAF would cause these hard shifts?

Does anyone know why my Auto Trans> Basic Settings button has been grayed out and not selectable? Is there any advise on how to enable it?

 

[NEtech]

Does anyone know why my Auto Trans> Basic Settings button has been grayed out and not selectable? Is there any advise on how to enable it?

When it is grayed, it means there is no Basic Settings in that Control Module.
Why do you think there should be Basic Settings to do some reset ?

There is erase of clutch in Adaptation Channel 01
Save value: 0

Translated by Google:

Clutch Adjustments:


Measurement block MWB 004.1 must be above 55.0 ° C
Check MWB 002 003 009
Choose a suitable flat road with good paving
Adaptation Channel 01

PART 1
Accelerates the car from standstill at very low torque 80-120 Nm
(MBW 002.4) in drive D to 4th gear
Then let the car roll down at speed to 40 km / h
without operating the brake and then braking to a standstill.
Wait for 5 sec. and then repeat the process 3 times.
See MBW 074.2 and 075.4 and 077.2 must be> 1

PART 2
Drive purposefully 3 ... 4 km with a torque of approx. 60-120 Nm
in Tiptronic in 5th gear (Mon.) at 1600 ... 2800 min-1
Then accelerate the car and continue in Tiptronic 6.gear (Mon.)
with 1600 ... 2800 min-1 additional 3 ... 4 km
When 1600 min-1 is reached, the next adjustment step is automatically continued.
See MBW 075.2 and 075.4 must be> 1

PART 3
Drive the Tiptronic car in 5th gear (man) between 1400 ... 2100 min-1 for one minute
and then let the rpm drop to 1400 min-1
The process is repeated 3 times.
Drive the car up at 1900 min-1
See MBW 073.4 must be> 1

PART 4
Hold for one minute the car in Tiptronic in 3rd gear (man) with 60 Nm
torque in the range 1400 ... 2100 min-1
and then slow down to a standstill.
The process is repeated 3 times.
See MBW 076.2 and 077.2 must be> 1

 

[LeeO]

The B7 has the 6hp19 ZF transmission - I was pretty sure people had referenced using basic settings to reset adaptive values, etc. for the automatic transmission. Of course, maybe I had seen incorrectly about that.

 

[Jack@European_Parts]

MAF can do this yes........... LOW ATF?

 

[LeeO]

I'll look into the MAF, and try doing the relearn with Adaptation channel 01.
AFT is the right level.

 

[Jack@European_Parts]

Are the pressures correct for relief in the ATF regulation?

 

[Mr. M]

The clutch adaptions can be reset in the ZF 6HP19 transmission, but can only be reset by a VW specific diagnostic tool like VCDS from around 2007MY (at least here in the UK) unless the TCM software is reflashed by a dealer. The reflash may have a related TPI which may require a different ATF. The adaptions can be reset on earlier vehicles using a ZF tool which is probably only available to ZF themselves.

I very much doubt that pressing the reset button will fix this issue you have though; the transmission will adapt to where it needs to be regardless of whether or not a reset has been carried out so maybe try NETech's procedure above. As per other suggestions above though, there is probably an issue that needs fixing.