[short side trip]
My girlfriend loved her 04 V8 Touareg that we picked up several months ago, but she's a bit finicky when it comes to things being in nice shape. At the time we found the 04 there just weren't a lot of TDI vehicles out there for sale (zero, as a matter of fact). So we picked up a silver V8, non air ride and rocked it for a while. I did the transmission valve body many moons ago (hard shift from 4-5, cured completely with the new body), and most recently I did the front lower control arms (shimmy on light braking).
The day I finished the front LCA job she found a nearly flawless 07 V10 TDI. An hour later we took it home.
[/short side trip]
After a few days she told me that it seemed like it was lacking power. There are probably space craft with less power than the 5.0 TDI. I took it for a spin, driving gently until warmed up. I was about 2 miles from where the US open is going on right now and pulled off the road to let some cars go by and then I rolled out by cracking the throttle followed by a smooth roll on. In a stunningly short period of time the vehicle was passing through 60mph, but with less drama than she might have been used to with the V8.
I told her to calm down, and that the vehicle was just different.
Yesterday she told me that she could barely get on the freeway, and that she now had an engine light. Huh? I know right about know some of you are like "POST YOUR F-ING SCANS!"
Right. Here we go. I hooked up my VCDS and attempted an auto scan. The software tells me my car is not capable of doing such. News to me, since I can select the appropriate vehicle directly from the list. Any clues as to why I can't get an autoscan? My OBDII connector on my genuine Ross-Tech cord has always been touchy, and has to be held just so in order to work. shrug.
So I manually went into the engine controller section and pulled the following:
Do a bit of searching, which caused me to break out the Tums. "Your turbos are cooked mate. These V10 TDI engines eat them like candy" seems to be the most common response. But there are also a metric shit ton of responses indicating that dealerships will immediately sell a turbo + 'may as well do all of the following: [your kid didn't really need braces and your wife can go another few years with those boobs]. And given how often that doesn't solve the problem means dealers are all too happy to sodomize their victims, er, customers and then charge them again and again. Of course that guy paid $2500 to have his front LCAs done and I paid $300 for a pair of them. I also read about a guy who let the dealer change his turbos, kept the old ones and took them to be rebuilt at a turbo shop. That place told him they were in perfect order, and that they are extremely durable turbos. Have I mentioned that I loathe dealerships?
Seems the turbo controllers can be a pain. The Ross-Tech (you may have heard of them) site says:
Possible Causes
Wiring and/or Connector(s) from/to Turbo Charger Control Module 1 faulty
Turbo Charger Control Module 1 faulty
Turbo Charger faulty
Possible Solutions
Check Wiring and/or Connector(s) from/to Turbo Charger Control Module 1
Check/Replace Turbo Charger Control Module 1
Check/Replace Turbo Charger [/I
I'm also reading where people have the controller linkage pop off. I cleared the codes above and we went out last night. The car is a friggin dog, and I've owned a 36hp bus.
Got another code:
I crawled under the car to see if I could even locate the controllers, the connectors and the linkages. The controllers look brand new. There is a bit of oil on the left controller connector plug, but considering that the transmission valve body connectors spend their lives submerged in ATF I'm not convinced that is a reason.
I cannot budge the linkages. I swear I read where some people had discovered a crunchy one and lubed it up and got it to work. Do you suppose they disconnect the controller end first? If I am under the car and have my woman turn the ignition on, should the controllers cycle? Is there another way to trigger them and cause them to move?
The problem is intermittent. Given what I know about turbo lubrication, turbos don't "do" intermittent. Something that turns 180k rpm will tend to shit the bed once and for all in catastrophic fashion, not decide that it doesn't want to play and then be okay for a while.
My girlfriend loved her 04 V8 Touareg that we picked up several months ago, but she's a bit finicky when it comes to things being in nice shape. At the time we found the 04 there just weren't a lot of TDI vehicles out there for sale (zero, as a matter of fact). So we picked up a silver V8, non air ride and rocked it for a while. I did the transmission valve body many moons ago (hard shift from 4-5, cured completely with the new body), and most recently I did the front lower control arms (shimmy on light braking).
The day I finished the front LCA job she found a nearly flawless 07 V10 TDI. An hour later we took it home.
[/short side trip]
After a few days she told me that it seemed like it was lacking power. There are probably space craft with less power than the 5.0 TDI. I took it for a spin, driving gently until warmed up. I was about 2 miles from where the US open is going on right now and pulled off the road to let some cars go by and then I rolled out by cracking the throttle followed by a smooth roll on. In a stunningly short period of time the vehicle was passing through 60mph, but with less drama than she might have been used to with the V8.
I told her to calm down, and that the vehicle was just different.
Yesterday she told me that she could barely get on the freeway, and that she now had an engine light. Huh? I know right about know some of you are like "POST YOUR F-ING SCANS!"
Right. Here we go. I hooked up my VCDS and attempted an auto scan. The software tells me my car is not capable of doing such. News to me, since I can select the appropriate vehicle directly from the list. Any clues as to why I can't get an autoscan? My OBDII connector on my genuine Ross-Tech cord has always been touchy, and has to be held just so in order to work. shrug.
So I manually went into the engine controller section and pulled the following:
Friday,19,June,2015,20:16:51:15876
VCDS Version: Release 14.10.2 (x64)
www.deadsexyUweRoss-Tech.com
Address 01: Engine Labels: Redir Fail!
Control Module Part Number: 070 906 016 CQ HW: 028 101 196 2
Component and/or Version: V10 5,0L EDCG001AGMª9805
Software Coding: 0060575
Work Shop Code: WSC 23347 444 84359
VCID: 61C303F8BB77AE29011-5140
3 Faults Found:
006482 - Turbocharger Control Module 1
P1952 - 000 - Defective - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100000
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 84
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 188070 km
Time Indication: 0
Freeze Frame:
RPM: 2058 /min
Speed: 53.6 km/h
Load: 14.5 %
Bin. Bits: 00000000
Bin. Bits: 00010000
Absolute Pres.: 1132.2 mbar
Absolute Pres.: 1040.4 mbar
000665 - Boost Pressure Regulation
P0299 - 000 - Control Range Not Reached - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00110000
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 193030 km
Time Indication: 0
Freeze Frame:
RPM: 2142 /min
Speed: 54.7 km/h
Load: 47.8 %
Voltage: 13.76 V
Bin. Bits: 00001000
Absolute Pres.: 1897.2 mbar
Absolute Pres.: 1387.2 mbar
005226 - Diesel Particle Filter Bank 1
P146A - 000 - Temperature Rise too Low - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00110000
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 193250 km
Time Indication: 0
Freeze Frame:
RPM: 630 /min
Speed: 0.0 km/h
(no units): 0.34
(no units): 0.14
(no units): 98.0
Temperature: 9.9°C
Duty Cycle: 0.0 %
Readiness: 1 1 0 0 0
Friday,19,June,2015,20:20:59:15876
VCDS Version: Release 14.10.2 (x64)
www.Ross-Tech.com
Address 11: Engine II Labels: Redir Fail!
Control Module Part Number: 070 906 016 CQ HW: 028 101 196 2
Component and/or Version: V10 5,0L EDCG001AGSª9805
Software Coding: 0060575
Work Shop Code: WSC 23347 444 84359
VCID: 61C303F8BB77AE29011-5140
1 Fault Found:
005227 - Diesel Particle Filter Bank 2
P146B - 000 - Temperature Rise too Low - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00110000
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 192798 km
Time Indication: 0
Freeze Frame:
RPM: 588 /min
Speed: 0.0 km/h
(no units): 0.32
(no units): -0.04
(no units): 42.0
Temperature: 8.1°C
Duty Cycle: 15.4 %
VCDS Version: Release 14.10.2 (x64)
www.deadsexyUweRoss-Tech.com
Address 01: Engine Labels: Redir Fail!
Control Module Part Number: 070 906 016 CQ HW: 028 101 196 2
Component and/or Version: V10 5,0L EDCG001AGMª9805
Software Coding: 0060575
Work Shop Code: WSC 23347 444 84359
VCID: 61C303F8BB77AE29011-5140
3 Faults Found:
006482 - Turbocharger Control Module 1
P1952 - 000 - Defective - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100000
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 84
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 188070 km
Time Indication: 0
Freeze Frame:
RPM: 2058 /min
Speed: 53.6 km/h
Load: 14.5 %
Bin. Bits: 00000000
Bin. Bits: 00010000
Absolute Pres.: 1132.2 mbar
Absolute Pres.: 1040.4 mbar
000665 - Boost Pressure Regulation
P0299 - 000 - Control Range Not Reached - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00110000
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 193030 km
Time Indication: 0
Freeze Frame:
RPM: 2142 /min
Speed: 54.7 km/h
Load: 47.8 %
Voltage: 13.76 V
Bin. Bits: 00001000
Absolute Pres.: 1897.2 mbar
Absolute Pres.: 1387.2 mbar
005226 - Diesel Particle Filter Bank 1
P146A - 000 - Temperature Rise too Low - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00110000
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 193250 km
Time Indication: 0
Freeze Frame:
RPM: 630 /min
Speed: 0.0 km/h
(no units): 0.34
(no units): 0.14
(no units): 98.0
Temperature: 9.9°C
Duty Cycle: 0.0 %
Readiness: 1 1 0 0 0
Friday,19,June,2015,20:20:59:15876
VCDS Version: Release 14.10.2 (x64)
www.Ross-Tech.com
Address 11: Engine II Labels: Redir Fail!
Control Module Part Number: 070 906 016 CQ HW: 028 101 196 2
Component and/or Version: V10 5,0L EDCG001AGSª9805
Software Coding: 0060575
Work Shop Code: WSC 23347 444 84359
VCID: 61C303F8BB77AE29011-5140
1 Fault Found:
005227 - Diesel Particle Filter Bank 2
P146B - 000 - Temperature Rise too Low - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00110000
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 192798 km
Time Indication: 0
Freeze Frame:
RPM: 588 /min
Speed: 0.0 km/h
(no units): 0.32
(no units): -0.04
(no units): 42.0
Temperature: 8.1°C
Duty Cycle: 15.4 %
Do a bit of searching, which caused me to break out the Tums. "Your turbos are cooked mate. These V10 TDI engines eat them like candy" seems to be the most common response. But there are also a metric shit ton of responses indicating that dealerships will immediately sell a turbo + 'may as well do all of the following: [your kid didn't really need braces and your wife can go another few years with those boobs]. And given how often that doesn't solve the problem means dealers are all too happy to sodomize their victims, er, customers and then charge them again and again. Of course that guy paid $2500 to have his front LCAs done and I paid $300 for a pair of them. I also read about a guy who let the dealer change his turbos, kept the old ones and took them to be rebuilt at a turbo shop. That place told him they were in perfect order, and that they are extremely durable turbos. Have I mentioned that I loathe dealerships?
Seems the turbo controllers can be a pain. The Ross-Tech (you may have heard of them) site says:
Possible Causes
Wiring and/or Connector(s) from/to Turbo Charger Control Module 1 faulty
Turbo Charger Control Module 1 faulty
Turbo Charger faulty
Possible Solutions
Check Wiring and/or Connector(s) from/to Turbo Charger Control Module 1
Check/Replace Turbo Charger Control Module 1
Check/Replace Turbo Charger [/I
I'm also reading where people have the controller linkage pop off. I cleared the codes above and we went out last night. The car is a friggin dog, and I've owned a 36hp bus.
Got another code:
Sunday,21,June,2015,10:03:17:15876
VCDS Version: Release 14.10.2 (x64)
www.Ross-Tech.com
Address 01: Engine Labels: Redir Fail!
Control Module Part Number: 070 906 016 CQ HW: 028 101 196 2
Component and/or Version: V10 5,0L EDCG001AGMª9805
Software Coding: 0060575
Work Shop Code: WSC 23347 444 84359
VCID: 61C303F8BB77AE29011-5140
1 Fault Found:
006482 - Turbocharger Control Module 1
P1952 - 000 - Defective - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100000
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 7
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 193917 km
Time Indication: 0
Freeze Frame:
RPM: 1638 /min
Speed: 47.6 km/h
Load: 18.0 %
Bin. Bits: 00000000
Bin. Bits: 00010000
Absolute Pres.: 1122.0 mbar
Absolute Pres.: 1091.4 mbar
Readiness: 1 1 0 0 0
VCDS Version: Release 14.10.2 (x64)
www.Ross-Tech.com
Address 01: Engine Labels: Redir Fail!
Control Module Part Number: 070 906 016 CQ HW: 028 101 196 2
Component and/or Version: V10 5,0L EDCG001AGMª9805
Software Coding: 0060575
Work Shop Code: WSC 23347 444 84359
VCID: 61C303F8BB77AE29011-5140
1 Fault Found:
006482 - Turbocharger Control Module 1
P1952 - 000 - Defective - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100000
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 7
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 193917 km
Time Indication: 0
Freeze Frame:
RPM: 1638 /min
Speed: 47.6 km/h
Load: 18.0 %
Bin. Bits: 00000000
Bin. Bits: 00010000
Absolute Pres.: 1122.0 mbar
Absolute Pres.: 1091.4 mbar
Readiness: 1 1 0 0 0
I crawled under the car to see if I could even locate the controllers, the connectors and the linkages. The controllers look brand new. There is a bit of oil on the left controller connector plug, but considering that the transmission valve body connectors spend their lives submerged in ATF I'm not convinced that is a reason.
I cannot budge the linkages. I swear I read where some people had discovered a crunchy one and lubed it up and got it to work. Do you suppose they disconnect the controller end first? If I am under the car and have my woman turn the ignition on, should the controllers cycle? Is there another way to trigger them and cause them to move?
The problem is intermittent. Given what I know about turbo lubrication, turbos don't "do" intermittent. Something that turns 180k rpm will tend to shit the bed once and for all in catastrophic fashion, not decide that it doesn't want to play and then be okay for a while.