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Hi- car starting and running fine, but keep getting an EML which is a problem for the MOT test here in the UK. I have ignored this fault for a long time, but I am determined to solve it once and for all....albeit not by myself apparently.
So I have tested the following:
- glow plugs all showing continuity
- using VCDS output tests, I can verify that 0V and 12V cycling to each glow plug exists ( which I assume is what the test is supposed to do )
The part number for the J179 glow plug relay on this car is 038907281C and it is located next to the battery. It has been replaced with a genuine part from VW which was replaced between the two Autoscans below. VW struggled to find the correct part number so the one from the old unit was used to obtain the one on the car now.
The glow plugs in the car were also replaced- they are now Beru with markings on them of: Beru Germany 242, 0100 226 482 11V. I don't know if these were supplied by VW.
What I would like to do is some more testing to verify function of the glow plugs, perhaps by taking them all out and making the circuit function.
Is there a way to force the relay to turn on all the glow plugs for a more sustained period of time than in the VCDS output tests? Each time I run the VCDS output tests I have to power cycle the ECU on the car to run them again and they will only run for about a minute it seems.
Is there a way to test the J179 glow plug control module / relay?
Here in the UK the weather rarely gets cold enough to suffer from glow plugs which do not work properly, and this car has always started without issue. I just want to get rid of the EML which keeps coming back.
thanks in advance for any assistance.
Andrew
Autoscan just now:
Same car, few years ago:
So I have tested the following:
- glow plugs all showing continuity
- using VCDS output tests, I can verify that 0V and 12V cycling to each glow plug exists ( which I assume is what the test is supposed to do )
The part number for the J179 glow plug relay on this car is 038907281C and it is located next to the battery. It has been replaced with a genuine part from VW which was replaced between the two Autoscans below. VW struggled to find the correct part number so the one from the old unit was used to obtain the one on the car now.
The glow plugs in the car were also replaced- they are now Beru with markings on them of: Beru Germany 242, 0100 226 482 11V. I don't know if these were supplied by VW.
What I would like to do is some more testing to verify function of the glow plugs, perhaps by taking them all out and making the circuit function.
Is there a way to force the relay to turn on all the glow plugs for a more sustained period of time than in the VCDS output tests? Each time I run the VCDS output tests I have to power cycle the ECU on the car to run them again and they will only run for about a minute it seems.
Is there a way to test the J179 glow plug control module / relay?
Here in the UK the weather rarely gets cold enough to suffer from glow plugs which do not work properly, and this car has always started without issue. I just want to get rid of the EML which keeps coming back.
thanks in advance for any assistance.
Andrew
Autoscan just now:
Code:
Sunday,12,March,2017,10:55:42:61795
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 17.1.3.0 (x64)
Data version: 20170220 DS267.3
www.Ross-Tech.com
VIN: WVWZZZ9NZ5D023423 License Plate:
Mileage: 138870km-86289mi Repair Order:
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Chassis Type: 9N (9N - VW Polo (2002 > 2010))
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 15 17 19 25 37 44 45 46 56 76
VIN: WVWZZZ9NZ5D023423 Mileage: 138870km-86289miles
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Address 01: Engine Labels: 038-906-019-ASZ.lbl
Part No: 038 906 019 NJ
Component: 1,9l R4 EDC 0400SG 6412
Coding: 00002
Shop #: WSC 31414
VCID: 6CD048EE1C7A942125-4B28
WVWZZZ9NZ5D023423 VWZ7Z0D0274798
1 Fault Found:
17057 - Cylinder 3 Glow Plug Circuit (Q12)
P0673 - 35-10 - Electrical Fault - Intermittent
Readiness: 1 1 0 0 0
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Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 6R0-907-37x-ABS80.lbl
Part No SW: 6Q0 907 379 AA HW: 6Q0 907 379 AA
Component: ABS 8.0 front H03 0001
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 00000000000000
Coding: 0000008
Shop #: WSC 31414 000 00000
VCID: 7CF078AE3C1A04A1B5-5168
No fault code found.
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Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: 6Q0-820-045.lbl
Part No: 6Q0 820 045
Component: Klimaanlage X0840
VCID: 6ADC4EF6168E8A1157-5168
1 Fault Found:
01596 - Motor for Outside/Recirculated Air Flap (V154)
30-00 - Open or Short to Plus
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Address 09: Cent. Elect. Labels: 6Qx-937-049-C.lbl
Part No: 6Q1 937 049 D
Component: 0000 BN-SG. 1S34
Coding: 09406
Shop #: WSC 31414
VCID: 3C70B8AE2C9AC4A1F5-5168
No fault code found.
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Address 15: Airbags Labels: 6Q0-909-605-VW5.lbl
Part No: 1C0 909 605 K
Component: 18 AIRBAG VW51 0P 0008
Coding: 12600
Shop #: WSC 31414
VCID: 2C5088EEDCFA542165-5168
No fault code found.
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Address 17: Instruments Labels: 6Q0-920-xxx-17.lbl
Part No: 6Q0 920 922 F
Component: KOMBI+WEGFAHRSP VDO V19
Coding: 01468
Shop #: WSC 00014
VCID: 3566AD8A0FB015E90A-5168
WVWZZZ9NZ5D023423 VWZ7Z0D0274798
No fault code found.
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Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels: 6N0-909-901-19.lbl
Part No: 6N0 909 901
Component: 001K GATEWAY CAN 1S34
Coding: 00014
Shop #: WSC 31414
VCID: 70E85C9E305270C119-5168
No fault code found.
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Address 44: Steering Assist Labels: 6Q0-423-156.clb
Part No: 6Q0 423 156 AB
Component: LenkhilfeTRW V270
Coding: 00140
Shop #: WSC 31414
VCID: 6FEA5FE22D6C6F3900-5168
No fault code found.
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Address 45: Inter. Monitor Labels: 6Q0-951-171.lbl
Part No: 6Q0 951 171
Component: Innenraumueberw. 0019
VCID: 6FEA5FE22D6C6F3900-5168
No fault code found.
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Address 46: Central Conv. Labels: 6Q0-959-433.lbl
Part No: 6Q0 959 433 E
Component: 4U Komfortgerát 0002
Coding: 00066
Shop #: WSC 31414
VCID: 3D76B5AA3780CDA9C2-4B28
Subsystem 1 - Part No: 6Q1959801A
Component: 4U Tõrsteuer.FS TFK 0004
Subsystem 2 - Part No: 6Q1959802A
Component: 4U Tõrsteuer.BF TFK 0004
No fault code found.
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Address 56: Radio Labels: 1J0-035-18x-56.lbl
Part No: 6N0 035 186 B
Component: Radio BNO 0006
Coding: 06403
Shop #: WSC 31414
VCID: 2D5685EAE7E05D2972-4B28
No fault code found.
End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 02:55)--------------------------Same car, few years ago:
Code:
Wednesday,06,March,2013,18:21:38:31207
VCDS Version: Release 11.11.5
Data version: 20121222
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Chassis Type: 9N - VW Polo
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 15 17 19 25 37 44 45 46 56 76
VIN: WVWZZZ9NZ5D023423 Mileage: 96740km/60111miles
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Address 01: Engine Labels: 038-906-019-ASZ.lbl
Part No: 038 906 019 NJ
Component: 1,9l R4 EDC 0400SG 6412
Coding: 00002
Shop #: WSC 31414
VCID: 6CDC0C261CF21078ED4
WVWZZZ9NZ5D023423 VWZ7Z0D0274798
4 Faults Found:
17068 - Glow Plug Control Module (J179)
P0684 - 35-00 - Implausible Signal
18263 - Powertrain Data Bus
P1855 - 35-00 - Software Version Monitoring
17571 - Fuel Temp Sensor (G81)
P1163 - 35-00 - Open or Short to Plus
17664 - Engine Coolant Temp Sensor (G62)
P1256 - 35-00 - Open or Short to Plus
Readiness: 1 3 0 0 0
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Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 6R0-907-37x-ABS.lbl
Part No SW: 6Q0 907 379 AA HW: 6Q0 907 379 AA
Component: ABS 8.0 front H03 0001
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 00000000000000
Coding: 0000008
Shop #: WSC 31414 000 00000
VCID: 7CFC3C663C9280F87D4
No fault code found.
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Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: 6Q0-820-045.lbl
Part No: 6Q0 820 045
Component: Klimaanlage X0840
VCID: EAD08A3E96068E481F8
2 Faults Found:
65535 - Internal Control Module Memory Error
00-00 - -
01596 - Motor for Outside/Recirculated Air Flap (V154)
30-10 - Open or Short to Plus - Intermittent
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Address 09: Cent. Elect. Labels: 6Qx-937-049-C.lbl
Part No: 6Q1 937 049 D
Component: 0000 BN-SG. 1S34
Coding: 09406
Shop #: WSC 31414
VCID: 3C7CFC662C1240F83D4
No fault code found.
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Address 15: Airbags Labels: 6Q0-909-605-VW5.lbl
Part No: 1C0 909 605 K
Component: 18 AIRBAG VW51 0P 0008
Coding: 12600
Shop #: WSC 31414
VCID: 2C5CCC26DC72D078AD4
No fault code found.
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Address 17: Instruments Labels: 6Q0-920-xxx-17.lbl
Part No: 6Q0 920 922 F
Component: KOMBI+WEGFAHRSP VDO V19
Coding: 01468
Shop #: WSC 00014
VCID: 356AE9420F3891B0C2A
WVWZZZ9NZ5D023423 VWZ7Z0D0274798
No fault code found.
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Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels: 6N0-909-901-19.lbl
Part No: 6N0 909 901
Component: 001K GATEWAY CAN 1S34
Coding: 00014
Shop #: WSC 31414
VCID: F0E49856B0DA749851C
No fault code found.
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Address 44: Steering Assist Labels: 6Q0-423-156.clb
Part No: 6Q0 423 156 AB
Component: LenkhilfeTRW V270
Coding: 00140
Shop #: WSC 31414
VCID: 6FE61B2A2DE4EB60C86
No fault code found.
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Address 45: Inter. Monitor Labels: 6Q0-951-171.lbl
Part No: 6Q0 951 171
Component: Innenraumueberw. 0019
VCID: EFE69B2AADE46B60486
No fault code found.
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Address 46: Central Conv. Labels: 6Q0-959-433.lbl
Part No: 6Q0 959 433 E
Component: 4U Komfortgerát 0002
Coding: 00066
Shop #: WSC 31414
VCID: 3D7AF162370849F00AA
Subsystem 1 - Part No: 6Q1959801A
Component: 4U Tõrsteuer.FS TFK 0004
Subsystem 2 - Part No: 6Q1959802A
Component: 4U Tõrsteuer.BF TFK 0004
No fault code found.
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Address 56: Radio Labels: 1J0-035-18x-56.lbl
Part No: 6N0 035 186 B
Component: Radio BNO 0006
Coding: 06403
Shop #: WSC 31414
VCID: 2D5AC122E768D970BAA
No fault code found.
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