RNS 510 and Gateway Canbus upgrade gone wrong.

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DISCOSTU29

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Hello there

I bought a RNS510 (1T0 035 680 B) and a Gateway (7N0 907 530AM) to upgrade my Golf Mk5.

1-I took note of the Gateway Installation list. I forgot to take note of the long coding.
2-I installed the new gateway and selected correct modules and added the 37 Navigation then hit save.
3-I got the message Re-code Invalid. ' This appears to be an uninitialized control module' I wasn't expecting this and selected yes.
4-The RNS510 unit appear to be working.
5-I then updated the firmware which failed as it started installing Gateway.
6-I used ISO-Fix to get it going again.
7-I then put the original Gateway module back in.
8-I ran a VCDS scan and the results are below

I'm getting these errors now:
15-Airbags -- Status: Malfunction 0010
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
37-Navigation -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 1010

Any ideas why?


Code:
Tuesday,21,February,2017,21:57:29:49422
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x86
VCDS Version: 16.8.2.3
Data version: 20160926 DS261.0
[url]www.Ross-Tech.com[/url]


VIN: WVWZZZ1KZ7W210418   License Plate: 


Chassis Type: 1K (1K0)
Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 37 42 44 46 52 56 62 72

VIN: WVWZZZ1KZ7W210418   Mileage: 138020km-85761miles

00-Steering Angle Sensor -- Status: OK 0000
01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: Malfunction 0010
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
37-Navigation -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 1010
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine        Labels: 03C-906-056-BAG.lbl
   Part No SW: 03C 906 056 DP    HW: Hardware No 
   Component: MED9.5.10       G00 9029  
   Revision: 66H09---    Serial number: VWZ7Z0G8063050
   Coding: 0000072
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 74E1E256177A21E2A0-8020

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0000 0000

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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK60-F.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 AC    HW: 1K0 907 379 AC
   Component: ESP FRONT MK60      0101  
   Revision: 00H11001    
   Coding: 0019073
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 73E3E14A127426DAB9-8026

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 1K0-820-047.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 820 047 GK
   Component: Climatic PQ35   120 0606  
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 73E3E14A127426DAB9-8026

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels: 3C0-937-049-23-H.lbl
   Part No SW: 3C0 937 049 AE    HW: 3C0 937 049 AE
   Component: Bordnetz-SG     H52 2002  
   Revision: 00H52000    Serial number: 00000006725215
   Coding: E48D0F2700041500471400001400000000087B075C0001
   Shop #: WSC 01287 785 00200
   VCID: 6CD1FA364F4AF92278-8038

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K2 955 119 E  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer 140207 020  0501  
   Coding: 00038805
   Shop #: WSC 01287  

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 955 559 AB  Labels: 1K0-955-559-AF.CLB
   Component: RLS     230207 020  0105  
   Coding: 00208933
   Shop #: WSC 01287  

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 1K0-909-605.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 909 605 T    HW: 1K0 909 605 T
   Component: 38 AIRBAG VW8   020 2300  
   Revision: 05020000    Serial number: 0038PD123JYM  
   Coding: 0013112
   Shop #: WSC 01269 785 00200
   VCID: 3D77077264B0A0AA9F-8068

   Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 6332MSME175E4427F

   Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6342MSME16753875E

   Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6352QSME1D68483DX

   Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6362QSME222C0727C

1 Fault Found:
01578 - Airbag Deactivation Warning Lamp; Passenger Side (K145) 
            009 - Open or Short to Ground - MIL ON

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Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 BD    HW: 1K0 953 549 BD
   Component: J0527           036 0070  
   Coding: 0002022
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 75E7DF521C0038EA97-8020

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX 
   Component: E0221           002 0010

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-17.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 920 973 A    HW: 1K0 920 973 A
   Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT VDD 1610  
   Revision: V0003000    Serial number: VWZ7Z0G8063050
   Coding: 0003403
   Shop #: WSC 00581 210 64475
   VCID: 2B53392A8AC43E1A31-807E

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels: 1K0-907-530-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 K    HW: 1K0 907 951 
   Component: J533__Gateway   H04 0021  
   Revision:   H04 02    Serial number: 210207F1000396
   Coding: 3D3F034807000003
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 2F6B2D3ABEDC423A1D-807A

3 Faults Found:
01305 - Databus for Infotainment 
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100100
                    Fault Priority: 1
                    Fault Frequency: 14
                    Reset counter: 4
                    Mileage: 137921 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 21:44:31

01300 - Control Module for Navigation with CD-Rom (J401) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 218
                    Mileage: 137921 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 21:40:00

01304 - Radio 
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00110100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 3
                    Mileage: 137921 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 06:13:08


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Address 25: Immobilizer        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 920 973 A    HW: 1K0 920 973 A
   Component: IMMO            VDD 1610  
   Revision: V0003000    Serial number: VWZ7Z0G8063050
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 2B53392A8AC43E1A31-807E

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 37: Navigation        Labels: None
   VCID: 55A7BFD2BCC058EAB7-8000

No Faults Found
  or DTCs not supported by controller
  or a communication error occurred

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels: 1K0-959-701-MIN3.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 701 M    HW: 1K0 959 701 M
   Component: Tuer-SG         005 0980  
   Coding: 0000692
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 387916664B9285824C-806C

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1Kx-909-14x-44.clb
   Part No: 1K2 909 144 L
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.068 H07 1806  
   Shop #: WSC 00000 028 00001
   VCID: 35671F525C8078EA57-8060

No fault code found.

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Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels: 1K0-959-433-MAX.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 433 BT    HW: 1K0 959 433 BT
   Component:    KSG PQ35 G2  020 0203  
   Revision: 00020000    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 819002005103085B2D04840570085FC690FC00
   Shop #: WSC 00365 210 88132
   VCID: 0303B18A42D4165AA9-8056

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
   Component: LIN BACKUP HORN H03 1301

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 951 178 
   Component: Neigungssensor  001 0101

   Subsystem 3 - Part No: 1K0 951 178 
   Component: Innenraumueberw.001 0101

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels: 1K0-959-702-MIN3.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 702 M    HW: 1K0 959 702 M
   Component: Tuer-SG         005 0980  
   Coding: 0000692
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 397F136270989C8AB3-806C

1 Fault Found:
00097 - Front Passengers Central Locking (Safe) Motor (V162) 
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 56: Radio        Labels: None
   VCID: 55A7BFD2BCC058EAB7-8000

No Faults Found
  or DTCs not supported by controller
  or a communication error occurred

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Address 62: Door, Rear Left        Labels: 1K0-959-703-GEN3.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 703 K    HW: 1K0 959 703 K
   Component: Tuer-SG         005 0913  
   Coding: 0000144
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 1012552
   VCID: 387916664B9285824C-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 72: Door, Rear Right        Labels: 1K0-959-704-GEN3.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 704 K    HW: 1K0 959 704 K
   Component: Tuer-SG         005 0913  
   Coding: 0000144
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 1012552
   VCID: 397F136270989C8AB3-806C

No fault code found.

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I'm getting these errors now:
15-Airbags -- Status: Malfunction 0010
Due to the fault code in your airbag module:
1 Fault Found:
01578 - Airbag Deactivation Warning Lamp; Passenger Side (K145)
009 - Open or Short to Ground - MIL ON

19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
CAN Gateway has 3 faults. Two of them are flagged "Intermittent", meaning the fault condition that set the code did not exist or could not be detected at the time the scan was performed. Those should clear. The last one is because your RNS is being flaky.

37-Navigation -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 1010
Look at the detailed scan results on both of these (same module, two addresses). It's not happy.

-Uwe-

PS: Please Get Verified so we can move this to the Retrofits section of the forum.
 
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I have run serveral scans and cleared the faults each time but always come back.

Are the Radio and Navigation fault both supposed to be on the same module with different addresses. Sorry I'm new to this and not sure.
 
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Is there anything i missed when installing the RNS510 unit ? Anything should have used VCDS for coding?

I used iso fix to get the RNS510 back to switching on but i cant update the firmware because of the gateway problem. The only thing that currently works on the unit is the radio. The touch screen, hard disc, CD, maps don't work so i need to be able to update the firmware.
 
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Version B RNS510 suffered from bad can-bus communication. Is Communication working? Radio shuts off when key removed etc... ?
 
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It shuts off if remove the key, wont switch off if you push the off button on the unit.
 
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So do i need to recode the RNS510? If so how, if i cant talk to it the VCDS?

I dont understand the original canbus gateway didnt have any faults on it when last scanned. I put the new one upgraded one in and it can up with these three faults so i put the original one back in and still have the same faults.

Obviously the radio and navigation ones go if i put the original radio back in and take off the navigation code but stilll left with the canbus gateway fault.
 
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