do i need a new ecu??

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Friday,17,February,2017,12:34:13:20229
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 17.1.3.0 (x64)
Data version: 20170203 DS267.2
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: VSSZZZ1MZ3R113757   License Plate: 


Chassis Type: 1M (1M - Seat Leon (2000 > 2005))
Scan: 01 02 03 08 15 17 19 22 35 36 37 46 56
 
VIN: VSSZZZ1MZ3R113757   Mileage: 187470km-116488miles
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Address 01: Engine        Labels: None
   Part No: 1ML 906 032 
   Component: 1.8l R4/5VT         0001  
   Coding: 10510
   Shop #: WSC 33278  
   VCID: 7EF275BF7AB870B19B-5140
   VSSZZZ1MZ3R113757     SEZ7Z0C1915415

3 Faults Found:
17795 - Control Module Malfunction - Internal Altitude/Pressure Sensor 
            P1387 - 35-00 - 
17695 - Boost Pressure Control Valve (N249) 
            P1287 - 35-00 - Open Circuit
16490 - Manifold / Barometric Pressure Sensor (G71) / (F96) 
            P0106 - 35-00 - Implausible Signal
Readiness: 0010 0000

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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 8N0-907-379-MK60-F.lbl
   Part No: 8N0 907 379 G
   Component: ESP FRONT MK60      0101  
   Coding: 0019469
   Shop #: WSC 00001 001 00001
   VCID: 408ECB4710CCC641A9-5122

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 1M0-820-043.lbl
   Part No: 1M0 820 043 E
   Component: 1M-CLIMATRONIC    X0702  
   Coding: 00041
   Shop #: WSC 06402  
   VCID: 244667D7B494FA61AD-257A

1 Fault Found:
00779 - Outside Air Temp Sensor (G17) 
            30-10 - Open or Short to Plus - Intermittent

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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 6Q0-909-605-VW5.lbl
   Part No: 1C0 909 605 A
   Component: 39 AIRBAG VW51 0A   0008  
   Coding: 13113
   Shop #: WSC 06441  
   VCID: 224A61CFAE80F451DF-5122

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 1M0-920-xx2-17.lbl
   Part No: 1M0 920 922 F
   Component: KOMBI+WEGFAHRSP VDO V03  
   Coding: 05424
   Shop #: WSC 00000  
   VCID: 2C568FF7DC44322165-5106
   VSSZZZ1MZ3R113757     SEZ7Z0C1915415

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels: 6N0-909-901-19.lbl
   Part No: 6N0 909 901 
   Component: Gateway K<->CAN    0001  
   Coding: 00006
   Shop #: WSC 06402  
   VCID: 70EE5B8730EC16C119-5106

No fault code found.

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Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels: 1C0-959-799.lbl
   Part No: 1C0 959 799 F
   Component: A7 Komfortgerát HLO 0003  
   Coding: 00258
   Shop #: WSC 06402  
   VCID: 3A7AB9AF26109C91E7-4B00

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1C0959802B
   Component: A7 Tõrsteuer.FS KLO 0009  

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1C0959801C
   Component: A7 Tõrsteuer.BF KLO 0009  

   Subsystem 3 - Part No: 1C0959811A
   Component: A7 Tõrsteuer.HL KLO 0009  

   Subsystem 4 - Part No: 1C0959812A
   Component: A7 Tõrsteuer.HR KLO 0009  

1 Fault Found:
00929 - Locking Module for Central Locking; Front Passenger Side (F221) 
            27-00 - Implausible Signal

End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 02:58)--------------------------

sorry I'm still new to this
 
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I don't see anything that indicates a failed ECU. I see failed sensors or improperly reporting sensors. Care to give more background? Such as how the car is acting and so on?

If it were my car, I'd go find the wiring diagrams and see what is in common to the three sensors that the ECU is barking about. Perhaps there is a common link among them and one could then look at that link to see why these are failing to report proper conditions. Implausible signal and open circuits usually lead to a wiring issue.

Could it be a bad ECU? Yep it could. But that is the most expensive item... start with basics and move toward that expensive item.
 
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Thank you for the replies, when I first start the car from cold I get the faults and I clear them and restart the car they don't come back while driving, its only when I have let it cooled down, the car runs fine apart from that.
 
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17795 / P1387 - Control Module Malfunction - Internal Altitude/Pressure Sensor

Do you get this DTC without starting the engine, just ignition on?
On a cold start, fire the engine up, clear the DTC and exit out of the ECM quickly. Shut car down. Does the code come back on the next start up?

Cold start... temperature related? Could putting the ECM into the fridge next the beer effect the ECM? Does it have to run longer before it clears out? Note, be sure it isn't a Lucas refrigerator, that wouldn't be a valid test. :p
 
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I only get this DTC on a cold start, when I clear the DTC it doesn't come back until its cold again
 
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My educated guess is you will need to replace the ECM. May as well open it up and take a look inside. Maybe you will get lucky and find a cracked solder joint or something.
 
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Would the map sensor cause the 17795 fault code or am i just not accepting its the ECM?
Jack how do I recode the module to default in simple terms?
Thank you all for your help it's much appreciated.
 
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think ive got it, I'm still trying to my head around all of this, would recoding the module to default does that return the ecu to factory stock or am I reading to much into it?
 
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Hi Jack, I followed the instructions on recoding module to default that you gave me, it was already showing 10510 in software coding so I pressed do it and the fault cleared, not sure if I was suppose to do this with the car running or not? I will let you know how it went on as it normally goes after I have cleared it then comes back when I restart when the engine is cold. thank you again for your support and being patient with me.
 
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its come back

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Sunday,19,February,2017,14:13:16:20229
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 17.1.3.0 (x64)
Data version: 20170203 DS267.2
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: VSSZZZ1MZ3R113757   License Plate: 


Chassis Type: 1M (1M - Seat Leon (2000 > 2005))
Scan: 01 02 03 08 15 17 19 22 35 36 37 46 56
 
VIN: VSSZZZ1MZ3R113757   Mileage: 187510km-116513miles
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine        Labels: None
   Part No: 1ML 906 032 
   Component: 1.8l R4/5VT         0001  
   Coding: 10510
   Shop #: WSC 33278  
   VCID: 7EF275BF7AB870B19B-5140
   VSSZZZ1MZ3R113757     SEZ7Z0C1915415

2 Faults Found:
17795 - Control Module Malfunction - Internal Altitude/Pressure Sensor 
            P1387 - 35-00 - 
17695 - Boost Pressure Control Valve (N249) 
            P1287 - 35-00 - Open Circuit
Readiness: 0110 0000

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 8N0-907-379-MK60-F.lbl
   Part No: 8N0 907 379 G
   Component: ESP FRONT MK60      0101  
   Coding: 0019469
   Shop #: WSC 00001 001 00001
   VCID: 408ECB4710CCC641A9-5140

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 1M0-820-043.lbl
   Part No: 1M0 820 043 E
   Component: 1M-CLIMATRONIC    X0702  
   Coding: 00041
   Shop #: WSC 06402  
   VCID: 244667D7B494FA61AD-2580

2 Faults Found:
00779 - Outside Air Temp Sensor (G17) 
            30-10 - Open or Short to Plus - Intermittent
00792 - A/C Pressure Switch (F129) 
            31-00 - Open or Short to Ground

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 6Q0-909-605-VW5.lbl
   Part No: 1C0 909 605 A
   Component: 39 AIRBAG VW51 0A   0008  
   Coding: 13113
   Shop #: WSC 06441  
   VCID: 224A61CFAE80F451DF-5106

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 1M0-920-xx2-17.lbl
   Part No: 1M0 920 922 F
   Component: KOMBI+WEGFAHRSP VDO V03  
   Coding: 05424
   Shop #: WSC 00000  
   VCID: 2C568FF7DC44322165-5122
   VSSZZZ1MZ3R113757     SEZ7Z0C1915415

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels: 6N0-909-901-19.lbl
   Part No: 6N0 909 901 
   Component: Gateway K<->CAN    0001  
   Coding: 00006
   Shop #: WSC 06402  
   VCID: 70EE5B8730EC16C119-5106

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels: 1C0-959-799.lbl
   Part No: 1C0 959 799 F
   Component: A7 Komfortgerát HLO 0003  
   Coding: 00258
   Shop #: WSC 06402  
   VCID: 3A7AB9AF26109C91E7-4B00

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1C0959802B
   Component: A7 Tõrsteuer.FS KLO 0009  

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1C0959801C
   Component: A7 Tõrsteuer.BF KLO 0009  

   Subsystem 3 - Part No: 1C0959811A
   Component: A7 Tõrsteuer.HL KLO 0009  

   Subsystem 4 - Part No: 1C0959812A
   Component: A7 Tõrsteuer.HR KLO 0009  

1 Fault Found:
00929 - Locking Module for Central Locking; Front Passenger Side (F221) 
            27-00 - Implausible Signal

End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 02:58)--------------------------
 
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It gets done not running and you have not set a different WSC or VCDS config .....please do so in VCDS config and set the tester ID, WSC, and Importer #.

Address 01: Engine Labels: None
Part No: 1ML 906 032
Component: 1.8l R4/5VT 0001
Coding: 10510
Shop #: WSC 33278 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<


When you see that number get changed to the WSC code you input in config, it helps verify you actually recoded with 10150

17795 - Control Module Malfunction - Internal Altitude/Pressure Sensor
P1387 - 35-00 -

If this fault fails to vacate you need a module.

FYI we have that module new and reman if needed.
 
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where do I find the vcds config and tester id? as I don't have that info
 
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thank you Jack, is the vcds config?
the info below is what I'm getting when I go into vcds

software coding (0 - 32761) 10510

workshop code (0 - 99999) 33278

importer code (0 - 999) ---

what information am I putting in there?
 
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You need to set it in the config I aforementioned and do not use 33278............RTFB the link.
 
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ok am I recoding using 10150?
 
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it will not allow me to change the importer number
 
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Yes but the WSC must be changed to show an alternate login of the WSC.......make it for example 12349 Importer # 888 and and tester # 36987 save it restart VCDS and when in the 07 screen you should see the new numbers and use 10510
 
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