A8 [D3] & A6 [4F] Battery ECU compatability? ...

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Does anyone who looks after various Audi vehicles have any experience of whether the A8 [D3] and A6 [4F] battery manager ECUs are compatible?

Or perhaps someone has access to an A8 and an A6 and can quickly swap an A6 one to see if it works in an A8?

That is; Can I use an A6 ECU [part number starts 4F0] in my 2005 A8?

For some reason, although they look identical externally, and functionally participate in an 'identical' MMI system, A6 ECUs are cheaper 'second hand' that the A8 ones!

Julian
 
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Does anyone who looks after various Audi vehicles have any experience of whether the A8 [D3] and A6 [4F] battery manager ECUs are compatible?
Hi there ... Even though the parts look identical and they may even share the same internals, the part number is different and I would say the two are not 100% compatible.

You may have noticed that many VAG parts are used in different vehicles, like the R8 for example, my A3 shares quite a few parts with the R8, these part numbers are exactly the same. And that is the thing, you can interchange these without worries, but exactly the same looking parts with different part numbers, I would be careful, the manufacture does not make it public all the differences between the two and if they were to work in other applications (A6 / A8), they would most likely have the same part numbers like the R8/A3, it appears they do not hide this fact, just don't tell the Bentley owners they are really driving a W12 VW Beetle :p


Hope this helps,

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Thanks DrPeter; I must admit I was suspicious that they would 'match' but their functionality is so similar I can't quite work out how they'd differ. Hence the 'has anyone tried' request.

BTW, I have noticed part number sharing as a lot of the A8 stuff went into A6s [and other cars] and kept the 4E0 prefix; they were presumably 'plug compatible' in all the cars. But I've seen A8s running A6 Bluetooth modules [4F1 862 3356] although there is an A8 BT moduile [4E0 862 335]. Thus an A6 part is running in A8s.

The reason I was 'checking' the possibility of a swap is that I suspect my 'firmware updated' A8 BEM is not functioning properly [It was updated via a VAS5** in response to an Audi TSB some years ago; it went from 0390 to 0510]. But I NEVER see any DIS messages about the battery or the shutdown stages even though I get DTCs in the ECU reflecting those issues that I can see with VCDS.

But a replacement is now on hold awaiting the very recent news of Uwe's possible development of a BEM Log reader function in VCDS ...

Julian
 
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The reason I was 'checking' the possibility of a swap is that I suspect my 'firmware updated' A8 BEM is not functioning properly [It was updated via a VAS5** in response to an Audi TSB some years ago; it went from 0390 to 0510]. But I NEVER see any DIS messages about the battery or the shutdown stages even though I get DTCs in the ECU reflecting those issues that I can see with VCDS.
Yep, the early 4E/4F cars "cried wolf" about the battery a lot, which upset the car's owners, so Audi dumbed the whole thing down with software updates.

But a replacement is now on hold awaiting the very recent news of Uwe's Eric's possible development of a BEM Log reader function in VCDS ...
Fixed that for you. :)

-Uwe-
 
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Oh does the latest version of VCDS have access to these logs now?
 
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Thanks for the reply, will it be anytime soon, I understand there is probably not many users interested in it as a feature but it sure would be nice for me. :popcorn:
 
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We'll push out a beta as soon as it works well on the two cars we have here (B8.5 S4 and 4F A6). I just got the A6 on Friday and there's work to be done to accommodate the arcane ways in which it sends the info.
 
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Thanks Eric. You know I've been (patiently) waiting for this for a long time. :)
 
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So backwards step may help? ...

Yep, the early 4E/4F cars "cried wolf" about the battery a lot, which upset the car's owners, so Audi dumbed the whole thing down with software updates.
Uwe
Brilliant:confused:

So instead of fixing the issues they turned off all the messages. :banghead:

Your comment, Uwe, explains why I used to see some messages [firmware 390] and never seen any since [firmware 510].

So I've bought a cheap 'early' BEM [firmware 0160 - from early 2003] which I'm going to fit and recode to see if I get any messages about what's going on with my car' battery system.

Julian
 
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So instead of fixing the issues they turned off all the messages. :banghead:
Conceptually not that different than the temperature "gauge" that shows a rock-solid 90°C anywhere between about 70°C and 110°C -- and VWAG has been doing that for decades.
 
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And there's a rumour going round that they may have tinkered with the emissions stuff as well! :p
 
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Since i mentioned the Beta in this thread, here goes:
http://download.ross-tech.com/VCDS/download/tmp/VCDS-x86.zip
http://download.ross-tech.com/VCDS/download/tmp/VCDS-x64.zip

Put the .exe that matches your install in the 17.1 folder. Go to Applications->History Data:
,
pick the address where your BDM/BEM resides (typically 61 in the older cars, 19 in the newer ones?):

hit Start and if everything goes well, you should get something like this:


Code:
;Tuesday,14,February,2017,17:08:17:18206
;                Address 19: CAN Gateway
;Control Module Part Number: 8R0 907 468 P
;  Component and/or Version: GW-BEM 5CAN-M H11 0060
;           Software Coding: 80C303FF00
;            Work Shop Code: WSC 06325
;                      VCID: 4CC26E5D76CF66879CA-8018
;
;History Data

Record 1/16: No-load voltage underranging
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2015-06-24-19:53*4*0*091*097*-50.53*0-0-0-0-0-0*0*0*00.0*00.0**
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2015-06-08-08:52*4*0*092*092*-14.14*0-0-1-0-0-0*0*0*00.0*00.0**
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2015-06-02-21:31*4*0*089*094*-19.74*0-0-0-0-0-0*0*0*00.0*00.0**

Record 4/16: Battery change history
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Record 5/16: Energy-critical vehicle states
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Record 6/16: Energy balances (last 20 trips)
2017-02-14-16:23*047*+07*+000.0*00.01**
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Record 7/16: Energy balances (last 20 standing times)
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Record 9/16
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Record 10/16: Dynamic energy management
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Record 11/16
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2016-07-18-17:51*000*002*006*000*0060*009*01.0*00.6*092*095*091*094*01**
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Record 12/16: Start-Stop
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2017-02-14-08:50*1*070*054*+08*03*-030*-27.60*10.8*0**
2017-02-13-18:09*1*070*054*+07*03*-030*-26.83*10.6*0**
02006*00027*00000**

Record 13/16: Sporadic alternator faults
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Record 14/16: Small battery for hybrid vehicle
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00000*00000*00000**

Record 15/16: Local activ.
2000-01-01-00:00*000*00*00*000*00*00*000*00*00**
2000-01-01-00:00*000*00*00*000*00*00*000*00*00**
2000-01-01-00:00*000*00*00*000*00*00*000*00*00**
2000-01-01-00:00*000*00*00*000*00*00*000*00*00**
2000-01-01-00:00*000*00*00*000*00*00*000*00*00**
2000-01-01-00:00*000*00*00*000*00*00*000*00*00**
2000-01-01-00:00*000*00*00*000*00*00*000*00*00**
2000-01-01-00:00*000*00*00*000*00*00*000*00*00**
2000-01-01-00:00*000*00*00*000*00*00*000*00*00**
2000-01-01-00:00*000*00*00*000*00*00*000*00*00**

Record 16/16: Vehicle energy balance
017362**
00146*00734*01349*00017*00000**
01986*00040*00025*00079**
04704*02496*00037*00000**
00136*01218*00361*00318**
01273*00624*00136**
00000*00000*00000*00000**
03037*00191*00066*00076**
01383*00002*00000**
00000*00000*00000**
00003*00000*00000**
00000*00000*00000*00000*00000*00000*00000*00000*00000*00000**
for my 8K, or

Code:
;Tuesday,14,February,2017,16:17:23:18206
;                Address 61: Battery Regul.
;Control Module Part Number: 4F0 910 181 E
;  Component and/or Version: ENERGIEMANAGER  H12 0490
;           Software Coding: 
;            Work Shop Code: WSC 12345
;                      VCID: 2310E5E1B7D189FF0D1-8076
;           Additional Info: 000915105DK von VA0  020627R0Z5        
;           Additional Info: Geraet 12345
;
;History Data

Record 1/18: No-load voltage underranging
2017-02-06,21:00:00*0075*019**
2017-02-05,11:00:00*0003*019**
2017-02-01,22:00:00*0028*019**
2017-01-29,13:00:00*0001*019*06465***
2016-03-27,16:00:00*0045*019**
2016-02-26,20:00:00*0040*019**
2016-02-24,12:00:00*0001*019**
2016-02-23,15:00:00*0015*019*00374***
2000-01-01,00:00:00*0000*000**
2000-01-01,00:00:00*0000*000**
2000-01-01,00:00:00*0000*000**
2000-01-01,00:00:00*0000*000*00000***

Record 2/18: No-load current overranging 
2017-02-05,15:35:07*0000*01.81*019**
2017-02-05,09:14:14*0000*01.79*019**
2017-01-29,12:42:50*0000*01.31*019**
2017-01-22,15:30:17*0000*01.85*019**
2017-01-22,14:22:20*0000*01.85*019**
2017-01-22,08:21:53*0000*01.90*019**
2017-01-19,13:40:25*0001*00.04*019**
2017-01-15,14:37:37*0000*01.83*019**
2017-01-15,10:53:29*0002*00.06*019**
2017-01-10,10:14:24*0001*00.04*019*00034***

Record 3/18: Energy-critical vehicle states
00.02*24.56*-20.33*09*07*+0758*-00031*055202*2016-04-14,20:36:33*0-0-1-1-0-0*01.6*01.6*001.6*00*01*02*019**

Record 4/18: Shut-off stage history
3*5*+07.00*03*2016-04-14,20:39:08*0-0-0-0-0-0*01.7**
5*6*-22.00*20*2016-04-14,20:05:56*0-0-1-1-0-0*01.1**
2*6*-24.75*20*2016-04-14,20:05:46*0-0-1-1-0-0*01.1**
2*0*-06.33*45*2016-02-12,11:32:22*0-0-0-0-0-0*00.0**
6*2*-00.10*46*2016-01-22,13:54:06*0-0-0-0-0-0*00.0**
3*2*-07.22*46*2016-01-22,13:53:56*0-0-0-0-0-0*00.0**
5*2*-07.22*46*2016-01-22,13:53:46*0-0-0-0-0-0*00.0**
2*2*-06.97*46*2016-01-22,13:53:36*0-0-0-0-0-0*00.0**
2*2*-12.80*46*2016-01-22,13:49:16*0-0-0-0-0-0*00.0**
6*4*-00.06*16*2015-10-27,11:49:27*0-0-0-0-0-0*00.0**
3*4*-06.11*16*2015-10-27,11:49:17*0-0-0-0-0-0*00.0**
5*4*-06.14*16*2015-10-27,11:49:07*0-0-0-0-0-0*00.0**
2*4*-06.81*16*2015-10-27,11:48:56*0-0-0-0-0-0*00.0**
6*2*-04.60*36*2015-10-27,00:04:45*0-0-1-0-0-0*00.0**
3*2*-11.23*36*2015-10-27,00:04:35*0-0-1-0-0-0*00.0**

Record 5/18: Battery change history
018*310314E04G*2007-02-04,00:00:00*+00000*+0000**
017*020627R0Z5*2007-02-04,00:00:00*+00000*+0000**
016*310314E04G*2007-02-04,00:00:00*+00000*+0000**

Record 6/18: Energy balances (last 5 trips)
+000.0*000.0**
+000.5*000.3**
+001.5*001.0**
+000.1*000.0**
+003.0*001.9**

Record 7/18: Energy balances (last 5 standing times)
-000.1*000.0**
-000.3*000.1**
-000.4*000.1**
-000.4*000.1**
-004.4*102.6**

Record 8/18
+006.1*019**

Record 9/18
0000.0*0000.0

Record 10/18: Dynamic energy management
00.0*00.0

Record 11/18
0000.00*0000.00*0000.00*0000.00

Record 12/18: Start-Stop
00.00*00.00*00.00*00.00

Record 13/18: Sporadic alternator faults
0000.0*0000.0

Record 14/18: Small battery for hybrid vehicle
00.0*00.0

Record 15/18: Local activ.
99*99*00*00*00

Record 16/18: Vehicle energy balance
00*00*00*00*00

Record 18/18: Date reprogramming in instrument cluster
15**
2006-07-20,18:00:00*2005-11-18,12:00:00**
2006-07-20,18:00:00*2005-11-18,12:00:00**
2006-07-20,18:00:00*2006-07-20,11:00:00**
2000-01-01,01:00:00*2006-07-09,00:00:00**
2000-01-01,01:00:00*2006-07-09,00:00:00**
for Katie's 4F.

Seeing how differently the modules behave between the two cars, I wouldn't be shocked if it's not quite there yet on the A8 or earlier 8Ks.
As far as interpreting the data, Niels is already working on a LCode-style app to do this, in the meantime those who send us data will get back a document on how to interpret it.
This version will autosave a file like "Hist-19-8R0-907-468-P-20170214-1708.txt" in the logs folder, email us (support@ross-tech.com) that plus a Debug 1024 (put 1024 in Options->Debug Level before you use this new function) from whichever controller you picked (typically DEBUG19.DLM or DEBUG61.DLM from the Debug folder).
I don't expect the user interface for this to be final since Uwe hasn't seen it ;) so suggestions are welcome but don't be offended if they're ignored :D
 
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:Bursts with excitement:

It's 23:43 but I'm popping out to the car... :p
You remind me of myself 16 years ago, braving the night and the cold to test Uwe's KWP-2000 code on the 2001 Octavia's ABS :)

Beta updated to 17.2.0.2 (same download link) thanks to your early feedback:
-Fixed hiccups with HEX-USB+CAN
-Improved display of retrieval progress on Open Controller screen
-Beta actually self-identifies as a Beta now ;)
 
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I don't expect the user interface for this to be final since Uwe hasn't seen it ;) so suggestions are welcome but don't be offended if they're ignored :D
Howsabout a TabControl for each of the history items, then a ListBox for each line of the history, that then is parsed by a file that Niels produces?

 
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How do I like the above more than once? :thumbs:
 
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Did you make a Microsoft Access database to display the data like that?

I'm talking about the screen from Zenerdiode
 
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Did you make a Microsoft Access database to display the data like that?

I'm talking about the screen from Zenerdiode
It was created using Microsoft Visual Studio.

As a (improved in my opinion) variation on Zenerdiode's screen layout I would recommend using a TreeView on the left with a node for each record for a better UIX instead of load of tabs which can be a pain to have to scroll through if there are more than a page widths worth of them.

Just my 2 pence worth :)
 
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