Problem coding Audi A5 door controller

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Hi, this I my first post to this forum. I have been using VCDS for several years without any problems but recently I have encountered a problem whilst attempting to configure a door controller as part of a retrofit to install power folding mirrors to my 2015 Audi A5 Sportback.

The door controllers that came with the car were ‘lowline’ and needed to be replaced with ‘highline’ to support power fold.

I replaced 8T0 959 792 Q with 8T0 959 792 P and 8T0 959 793 Q with 8T0 959 793 P.

I am fairly confident that these are the correct controllers to support power fold mirrors for post 2012 A5’s.

One of the controllers I bought online was originally in an A5 cabriolet and the other was from an A4 Saloon/Sedan. I proceeded to recode both controllers to be A5 Sportback using the same coding as Q version from factory.

The controller that was originally in the A5 cabriolet worked first time and everything behaved as expected. In particular, the window dropped slightly when door was opened with window up and window rose slightly when door was opened with window fully down.

The controller that was originally in the A4 after being recoded to A5 refuses to exhibit A5 behaviour even though the A5 coding is accepted and visible after reopening controller in VCDS. I have tried many variations but it refuses to switch to ‘A5 mode’. The ‘Short Lift Active’ option is one of the features that is ignored. I decided to buy another controller that was again originally from an A4 and this behaves the same. I thought these controllers worked for A4 and A5.

Has anyone experienced this before, is there something I should be doing to further configure the controller or perhaps hard reset them? Perhaps it has additional coding performed at factory that makes it remain in A4 mode?

Any assistance on this would be much appreciated.
 
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Code:
Wednesday,07,September,2016,19:04:09:44254
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x64
VCDS Version: 16.8.1.1 (x64)
Data version: 20160902 DS256
[url]www.Ross-Tech.com[/url]


VIN: WAUZZZ8T4GA0XXXXX   License Plate: 


Chassis Type: 8T (8R0)
Scan: 01 02 03 05 08 09 15 16 17 19 42 44 46 52 53 56 5F 62 72 AC
         

VIN: WAUZZZ8T4GA0XXXXX   Mileage: 17580km-10923miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
53-Parking Brake -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
5F-Information Electr. -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
AC-Reductant Control -- Status: OK 0000
 
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Address 01: Engine (J623-CNHA)       Labels: 04L-907-309-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 04L 906 021 BG    HW: 04L 907 309 
   Component: R4 2,0L EDC   H23 8478  
   Revision: 85H23---    
   Coding: 0A034012232401080000
   Shop #: WSC 06208 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM20TDI01104L906021BG 002006
   ROD: EV_ECM20TDI01104L906021BG.rod
   VCID: 6BDEDF5082292E1A6D-803E

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0 0 0 0 1 

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Address 02: Auto Trans (J217)       Labels: 0AW-927-156.clb
   Part No SW: 8K2 927 155 R    HW: 0AW 927 156 K
   Component: 0AW 20TDI RdW H08 0002  
   Revision: --H08---    Serial number: 0000001348
   Coding: 000002
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_TCMVL381 A02433
   ROD: EV_TCMVL381_AU48.rod
   VCID: 448C54ECCF370162CC-8010

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels: 8K0-907-379-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 907 379 CN    HW: 8K0 907 379 CN
   Component: ESP8 front    H09 0020  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: --------------
   Coding: 421DCC01
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   VCID: 071683E0B681EA7AE9-8052

No fault code found.

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Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. (J393)       Labels: 8K0-907-064-05.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 907 064 KE    HW: 8K0 907 064 KE
   Component: BCM2 2.0      H15 0711  
   Revision: 00002001    
   Coding: 01B44040000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   VCID: 7DFAE108E45DB0AAC3-8028

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8K0 959 754 H    HW: 8K0 959 754 H
   Component: FBSAUDIB8 IDG  H71 0083 
   Serial number: 0815000094093009    

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8K0 905 852 E    HW: 8K0 905 852 E
   Component: J764 ELV MLB  H40 0046 
   Serial number: 3215000138948012    

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels: Redir Fail!
   Part No SW: 8K2 820 043 BB    HW: 8K2 820 043 BB
   Component: KLIMA 3 ZONEN H04 0122  
   Revision: D1000000    Serial number: 01120820151747
   Coding: 342400A000
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   VCID: 6AD0DA5485D3371216-803E

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels: 8K0-907-063.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 907 063 DH    HW: 8K0 907 063 DH
   Component: BCM1 1.0      H16 0103  
   Revision: 08016001    Serial number: 00001146915702
   Coding: 

2600001180348FC00081400300001D0D001D43082709020100000800440002010000002400

0000
   Shop #: WSC 06325 123 12345
   VCID: 78F4F01CCB7F958290-802C

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8T2 955 119 D    HW: 8J2 955 119   Labels: 

1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: WWS 030815  H13 0080 
   Serial number: SWF15088035107      
   Coding: 00FD11

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8U0 955 559 C    HW: 8U0 955 559 B  Labels: 

8U0-955-559.CLB
   Component: G397_RLFS  H06 0004 
   Serial number: 20516632            
   Coding: 02005D

   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 8K0 941 531 AS    HW: 8K0 941 531 AS
   Component: E1 - LDS  H03 0031 
   Serial number: 00000000000308150638

   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 4H0 907 658     HW: 4H0 907 658 
   Component: AQ_Hum_Sensor  H03 0003 
   Serial number: 3B188EB7000000000001

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels: 8K0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 959 655 N    HW: 8K0 959 655 N
   Component: AirbagVW-AU10 H49 0610  
   Serial number: 003KFDD165LB  
   Coding: 30533938363030303030554A305238543053
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaECUVWAUDI010 003010
   ROD: EV_AirbaECUVWAUDI010_AU48.rod
   VCID: 489440DCF31F250220-801C

   Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side: 
   Serial number: 6334MSME536D572CQ

   Crash sensor for side airbag: front passenger side: 
   Serial number: 6344MSME536D5A0DT

   Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: driver side: 
   Serial number: 6352QSME65580E74Q

   Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: passenger side: 
   Serial number: 6362QSME18500D54E

   Crash sensor for front airbag: driver side: 
   Serial number: 63732SME0552167AZ

   Crash sensor for front airbag: front passenger side: 
   Serial number: 63832SME02522470M

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels: 8K0-953-568.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 953 568 Q    HW: 8K0 953 568 Q
   Component: Lenks.Modul   H03 0003  
   Revision: C0062331    Serial number: 90862OHJ00073 
   Coding: 000036
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   VCID: 489440DCFB1F250220-801C

   Component: E221 - MFL  H03 0004 

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels: 8T0-920-xxx-17.clb
   Part No SW: 8T0 920 984 K    HW: 8T0 920 984 K
   Component: KOMBIINSTR.   H35 0567  
   Revision: 00100000    Serial number: 5L+302C8G     
   Coding: 33A7300003012600010000
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   VCID: 479643E0F6012A7A29-8012

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels: 8T0-907-468.clb
   Part No SW: 8R0 907 468 T    HW: 8R0 907 468 C
   Component: GW-BEM 4CAN-M H11 0070  
   Revision: 1Y090032    Serial number: 3241Y1570406CD
   Coding: 80CF07FF00
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   VCID: 50A468BC034FEDC278-8004

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8T0 915 181     HW: 8T0 915 181 
   Component: J367-BDMHella  H03 8041 
   Serial number: 1576207503          

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8K0 959 663     HW: 8K0 959 663 
   Component: J532_DCDCStab  H17 0042 
   Serial number: 15217002099011200181

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels: 8K0-959-793.clb
   Part No SW: 8T0 959 793 P    HW: 8T0 959 793 G
   Component: TSG FA        H09 0305  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: --------------
   Coding: 011D02625001450005
   Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
   VCID: 56A89EA421AB83F2A2-8002

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist (J500)       Labels: 8K0-909-144.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 909 144 P    HW: 8K0 909 144 B
   Component: RCEPS         H43 0510  
   Revision: 00001000    Serial number: 0015033787
   Coding: 100000000001
   Shop #: WSC 06324 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_RCEPSAU48X 008018
   ROD: EV_RCEPSAU48X.rod
   VCID: 3E782604A1DB6BB29A-806A

No fault code found.

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Address 46: Central Conv. (J393)       Labels: 8K0-907-064-46.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 907 064 KE    HW: 8K0 907 064 KE
   Component: BCM2 2.0      H15 0711  
   Revision: 00002001    Serial number: 0376530414    
   Coding: 013B0622A0B900808320043680000047
   Shop #: WSC 06325 123 12345
   VCID: 7DFAE108E45DB0AAC3-8028

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 8K0 951 177 
   Component: DWA-Sensor  H02 0040 

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
   Component: LIN BACKUP HO  H05 1501 

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels: 8K0-959-792.clb
   Part No SW: 8T0 959 792 P    HW: 8T0 959 792 G
   Component: TSG BF        H09 0305  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: --------------
   Coding: 011002225C01450005
   Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
   VCID: 55AA99A83CAD88EAAB-8000

No fault code found.

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Address 53: Parking Brake (----)       Labels: 8K0-907-801-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 907 801 N    HW: 8K0 907 801 J
   Component: EPB-4         H02 0005  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 00000001704277
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ParkiBrake 001028
   ROD: EV_ParkiBrake_VW51.rod
   VCID: 3A702A14BDF34792A6-806E

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio (R)       Labels: Redir Fail!
   Part No SW: 4G0 035 061 Q    HW: 4G0 035 061 
   Component: Radio U DAB   H60 0150  
   Revision: AB001007    Serial number: 109H$0F8061294
   Coding: 010103020100000001
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   VCID: 2B5E1F504AA9EE1A2D-807E

No fault code found.

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Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794)       Labels: 4E0-035-6xx-5F.clb
   Part No SW: 8R2 035 666 J    HW: 8R2 035 666 H
   Component: H-BN-EU       H49 0941  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 515HA0F7548298
   Coding: 130101040006A1ED01808B5E00000403E40000020000000000
   Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
   VCID: 408458FCD32F1D42E8-8014

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 8R0 060 884 CR
   Component: EUR 2015  2102 

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8R0 919 604 A    HW: 8R0 919 604 A
   Component: DU7 High  H42 0104 
   Serial number: A130H-0F3436368     

   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 8T0 919 611 K    HW: 8T0 919 611 B
   Component: E0380 Bedient  H02 0030 
   Serial number: 00000002339117      

   Subsystem 4 - Part No: 8R0 060 961 G
   Component: CD-Database  6208 

No fault code found.

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Address 62: Door, Rear Left (J388)       Labels: 8K0-959-795.clb
   Part No SW: 8T0 959 795 Q    HW: 8T0 959 795 H
   Component: TSG HL        H08 0305  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: --------------
   Coding: 010C02224001450005
   Shop #: WSC 06325 123 12345
   VCID: 59B2959850B5AC8A8F-800C

No fault code found.

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Address 72: Door, Rear Right (J389)       Labels: 8K0-959-794.clb
   Part No SW: 8T0 959 795 Q    HW: 8T0 959 795 H
   Component: TSG HR        H08 0305  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: --------------
   Coding: 010C02224001450005
   Shop #: WSC 06325 123 12345
   VCID: 59B2959850B5AC8A8F-800C

No fault code found.

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Address AC: Reductant Control (J880)       Labels: 4G0-907-355.clb
   Part No SW: 4G0 907 355 G    HW: 4G0 907 355 B
   Component: SCR-Stg-G2    H10 0013  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 151971049
   ASAM Dataset: EV_RDCMA00100 008040
   ROD: EV_RDCMA00100.rod
   VCID: 2F660B4076B1923A01-807A

No fault code found.

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Forgot to mention that it's the passenger side that has the problem
 
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Noticed a couple of things in scan. What does BF mean after TSG? Also what does the 0305 mean?

Cheers

Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387) Labels: 8K0-959-792.clb
Part No SW: 8T0 959 792 P HW: 8T0 959 792 G
Component: TSG BF H09 0305
 
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German acronyms:

TSG = TuerSteuerGeraet -- Door Control Module
FA = Fahrer -- Driver
BF = BeiFahrer -- Passenger (or more literally co-driver)

0305 is the software version in those modules.

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Ok thanks, so supposedly correct module then
 
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I tried adjusting drivers side to be an A4 to see if it applied changes but it stayed in A5 mode with regards to the short lift active, this makes me wonder if additional config is required somewhere else that I'm missing as controllers are accepting coding changes but not acting on the coding
 
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Is there a command in vcds to restart or factory reset a controller?
 
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Also, what would the security code be to allow security access to 792 controller? Maybe I need to login to enable changes. Thanks
 
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Unit 42 and 52 are normally coded the same way - so maybe you can just take the coding from 42 and then paste it into 52 - it might be worth a try :)
 
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I gave that a go but no luck, I have tried lots and lots of variations.
 
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Problem resolved, these controllers appear to have additional settings to govern the position of the window regulator when the door is opened/closed if they are fitted to an A5 at factory. Settings not visible in VCDS so its more than just coding the controller to suit A4/A5 as the settings will be missing if originally fitted to A4 and you wish to use on an A5.
 
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Problem resolved, these controllers appear to have additional settings to govern the position of the window regulator when the door is opened/closed if they are fitted to an A5 at factory. Settings not visible in VCDS so its more than just coding the controller to suit A4/A5 as the settings will be missing if originally fitted to A4 and you wish to use on an A5.
Do these controllers have any adaptation channels?

If they do, maybe that's where the additional settings are?
 
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Problem resolved, these controllers appear to have additional settings to govern the position of the window regulator when the door is opened/closed if they are fitted to an A5 at factory. Settings not visible in VCDS so its more than just coding the controller to suit A4/A5 as the settings will be missing if originally fitted to A4 and you wish to use on an A5.
Hi Tech1

Can you elaborate "where" these additional settings were and how you resolved them please?

Many thanks

Andy
 
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