2011 Vw caddy 1.6tdi dsg mechatronic problem

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Hi Folks
I have been having problems with the mechatronic, so I have sent it to Ecutesting in Derby who claim on there website that they can repair it.
Today they tell me the particular fault is really awkward to fix, and they may not be able to do it, a shame as they charge about£250.00 against a new one at £1240.00.
So it may have to be a new one, which is where my questions start,
Anew one I am told has to be ordered specifically for the vehicle as the factory install the correct software in it for my individual vehicle.
But on installation it will have to be coded to the vehicle of which I am not sure how to do so I am hoping you guys can help me on that.
I am told you only have one chance it coding it and if you get it wrong the unit is scrap, again perhaps someone can clarify this.
now I understand that once installed and coded, there is a basic setting procedure to go through, I have seen this section in vcds before I took it apart although it was greyed out and so could not access it !, will it be available once the new unit is fitted?.
Another point I have read somewhere is that if the clutches show a fault code for being outside there wear limit then the basic set up cannot be accessed so would this be a problem? as mine has sometimes shown a code for clutch 2 being out of range or something similar, I cannot remember the exact wording.
So in essence although a qualified technician and worked on vehicles for many years, this coding etc is a completely new experience for me so would appreciate as much useful info as possible.
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If you have a scan from this vehicle from before you removed the Mechantronic, please post that scan. If you have a reasonably current version of VCDS, please look in the Scans sub-folder before you conclude that you don't have the scan.

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This if it posts is the last scan done after complete drive failure
Code:
Monday,13,June,2016,20:20:51:29363
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 15.7.4.1 (x64)
Data version: 20160216
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: WV2ZZZ2KZBX259441   License Plate: NK11GOC
Mileage: 127880km-79460mi   Repair Order: 13062016



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Chassis Type: 2K (7N0)
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 42 44 46 52 56

VIN: WV2ZZZ2KZBX259441   Mileage: 127880km-79460miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: Malfunction 0010
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
 
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Address 01: Engine (J623-CAYD)       Labels: 03L-906-023-CAY.clb
   Part No SW: 03L 906 023 FK    HW: 03L 907 425 C
   Component: 1,6l R4 CR td H43 8686  
   Revision: --H43---    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 00254014030500080000
   Shop #: WSC 35110 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM16TDI02103L906023FK 003005
   ROD: EV_ECM16TDI02103L906023AQ.rod
   VCID: 74E794FFDFC99C9E6A-8020

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0000 0000

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Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 0AM-927-769.clb
   Part No SW: 0AM 300 050 R    HW: 0AM 927 769 D
   Component: GSG DSG AG7     403 9060  
   Revision: 00040034    Serial number: CU501012175486
   Coding: 0000020
   Shop #: WSC 51771 001 1048576
   VCID: 387F60CF4B2138FE86-806C

9 Faults Found:
006079 - Hydraulic Pump 
               P17BF - 000 - Play Protection - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100000
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 31
                    Reset counter: 10
                    Mileage: 127466 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2016.06.11
                    Time: 22:11:53

006079 - Hydraulic Pump 
               P17BF - 001 - Play Protection - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100000
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 31
                    Reset counter: 10
                    Mileage: 127466 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2016.06.11
                    Time: 22:11:53

002113 - Transmission Fluid Pressure Sensor/Switch 1 
               P0841 - 000 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100000
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 38
                    Reset counter: 10
                    Mileage: 127479 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2016.06.11
                    Time: 23:01:16

006079 - Hydraulic Pump 
               P17BF - 002 - Play Protection - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100000
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 31
                    Reset counter: 10
                    Mileage: 127466 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2016.06.11
                    Time: 22:11:53

006012 - Clutch 2 
               P177C - 001 - Tolerance Limit Reached - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100001
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 8
                    Reset counter: 8
                    Mileage: 127557 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2016.06.12
                    Time: 01:46:11

006300 - Function Restriction due to Insufficient Pressure Build-Up 
               P189C - 000 -  - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100000
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 14
                    Reset counter: 10
                    Mileage: 127800 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2016.06.13
                    Time: 15:06:51

006293 - Functional Restriction due to Pressure Drop 
               P1895 - 000 -  - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100000
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 5
                    Mileage: 127837 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2016.06.13
                    Time: 16:34:33

001835 - Gear R 
               P072B - 000 - Not Selectable - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100000
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 40
                    Mileage: 127881 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2016.06.13
                    Time: 17:47:06

001852 - Gear 7 
               P073C - 000 - Not Selectable - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100000
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 40
                    Mileage: 127881 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2016.06.13
                    Time: 17:36:20


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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels: 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 BD    HW: 1K0 907 379 BD
   Component: ESP MK60EC1   H31 0108  
   Revision: 00H31001    
   Coding: 633C600D09270303C60F06E8901AC081300000
   Shop #: WSC 35110 377 08192
   VCID: 75E1A9FBDCB385965D-8020

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J301)       Labels: 3C8-907-336.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 907 426 K    HW: 7N0 907 426 K
   Component: AC Manuell    H17 0202  
   Revision: 00012001    
   Coding: 0000000002
   Shop #: WSC 35110 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Climatic A01005
   ROD: EV_ClimaBasis_SE36.rod
   VCID: 3C777CDFB71914DE62-8068

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels: 1K0-937-08x-09.clb
   Part No SW: 2K5 937 086 B    HW: 2K5 937 086 B
   Component: BCM PQ35 M+   011 1044  
   Revision: BD011001    
   Coding: 481A0A3A8025F16B088000829000816447017288524F8160648000000040
   Shop #: WSC 35110 377 08192
   VCID: 356169FB9C33C5969D-8060

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1T2 955 119 A
   Component: Wischer 18121  26  0512 
   Coding: 009795

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 7N0 951 171 
   Component: DWA-Sensor 00  002 0205 
   Coding: 000000

   Subsystem 3 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
   Component: LIN BACKUP HO  H05 1501 
   Coding: 000000

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels: 5K0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 2H0 959 655 B    HW: 2H0 959 655 B
   Component: VW10Airbag019 H06 0013  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 003HN001WB01
   Coding: 000000000000000000000000000000003139
   Shop #: WSC 35110 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVN750 A01026
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVN750_SE12.rod
   VCID: 336557E39A47DBA6B3-8066

   Crash sensor for side airbag; driver side: 
   Serial number: 3495RRB405107S8SBHE.

   Crash sensor for side airbag; front passenger side: 
   Serial number: 3505RRB406306OG6KPL.

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels: 5K0-953-569.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 507 AB    HW: 5K0 953 549 
   Component: Lenks.Modul   007 0080  
   Revision: --------    Serial number:  90422JLF001B4
   Coding: 1880060000
   Shop #: WSC 35110 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SMLSNGKUDS A05001
   ROD: EV_SMLSNGKUDS_SE36.rod
   VCID: 70EF98EFABD1A0BE8E-8024

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb
   Part No SW: 2K0 920 965 A    HW: 2K0 920 965 A
   Component: KOMBI         H04 0404  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 480200
   Shop #: WSC 35110 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04086
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_SE36.rod
   VCID: 2D51419B7C638D56E5-8078

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels: 7N0-907-530-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 907 530 C    HW: 1K0 907 951 
   Component: J533  Gateway H37 0614  
   Revision:   H37       Serial number: 090111F2002408
   Coding: 357401
   Shop #: WSC 35110 377 08192
   VCID: 306F58EF6351E0BECE-8064

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234 
   Component: IMMO          H04 0404  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03008
   ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_SE25.rod
   VCID: 6ADB8A878D0D5A6EC0-803E

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels: 1K0-959-701-MIN3.lbl
   Part No SW: 1T0 959 701 T    HW: 1T0 959 701 T
   Component: Tuer-SG         009 2110  
   Coding: 0000560
   Shop #: WSC 35110 377 08192
   VCID: 489F100F3BC1487EF6-801C

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1Kx-909-14x-44.clb
   Part No: 1K0 909 144 M
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 140    3201  
   Revision: 00H20000    
   Shop #: WSC 35110 377 08192
   VCID: 346754FF5749DC9EAA-8060

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels: 1K0-959-702-MIN3.lbl
   Part No SW: 1T0 959 702 R    HW: 1T0 959 702 R
   Component: Tuer-SG         009 2110  
   Coding: 0000560
   Shop #: WSC 35110 377 08192
   VCID: 479D133336DF4706FF-8012

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio (J503)       Labels: 5M0-035-1xx-56.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 035 186 AA    HW: 1K0 035 186 AA
   Component: RCD310 EU     H14 5043  
   Revision: -----06S    Serial number: VWZ4Z2L1102342
   Coding: 0500040002
   Shop #: WSC 35110 377 08192
   VCID: 65C1F9BB6C137516ED-8030

No fault code found.

End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 02:06)--------------------------
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Don't think I posted that right but the information is there,
That was the first scan after the failure, before removing the mechatronic I cleared the faults then did another scan, the only fault to then show was 006300 - Function Restriction due to Insufficient Pressure Build-Up
P189C - 000 ,
 
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It has now been confirmed that my mechatronic unit is deceased, apparently after lengthy testing the problem is down to a valve that has failed not allowing fluid to pressurise.
So order a new one tomorrow.
So my questions still stand about how to code the new unit when it arrives, or even if I can do this with vcds.
 
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Thank you Uwe for the link, in new it would be on here I just couldn't find it
 
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Now I know this is probably a really silly question, but seeing as my local vw parts supplier has told me that coding the new mechatronic is very tricky ( should be done by a dealer), as you only get one chance at it, get it wrong and you have to buy another as apparently they cannot be recoded.
As you may understand I am quite worried about this and want to make sure I get it right, that is if what they say is correct.
I have now read the wiki about how to do it thanks to Uwe sending the link to it.
This says, copy and paste the coding out of the autoscan, I assume that is simply the bit that says "Coding:", and the code in my scan being 0000020.
Would be good if someone could confirm this, yes I know asking appears to make me look stupid, but the thought of getting it wrong and costing me another £1200.00, is not particularly appealing, and also maybe confirm that this is true.
 
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Yes, the coding in the old module is Coding: 0000020. I also expect you'd want to use non-zero values for WSC, Importer, and Equipment number. These are basically an identifier for "who done it" and have no functional effect on anything.

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Once again Uwe
Thank you for your words of wisdom, you have very much put my mind at ease with the task now, just got wait for the new unit to arrive.
Cheers
 
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Yes, the coding in the old module is Coding: 0000020. I also expect you'd want to use non-zero values for WSC, Importer, and Equipment number. These are basically an identifier for "who done it" and have no functional effect on anything.

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Hi Uwe
Sorry about all the silly questions, but you suggest not to have zero values for wsc although they don't have any functional effect, may I ask why you suggest this ?
 
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Some modules won't accept a new coding if you leave the WSC, Importer, and Equipment Number at 0 (or other default values).

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