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diskoboy

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I'm trying to setup my own "testbench" and I'm getting there. It's not done yet, but more and more ready ;)

Installed gateway, BCM, cluster, door + passanger module and infotainment 5F system.

All modules are originally from my Touran where I have upgraded some modules except for 5F that I have borrowed from a friend. In the cluster I've took out the speaker. That's is causing the error related to "Internal Control Module Memory Check Sum Error".

My problem is with 09-BCM.
Address 09: Cent. Elect.
Cannot be reached
Unable to communicate with address 09. Are you sure the doors are unlocked?

I've added wires to I can "open" driver and passanger door. Rear lid is currently open and hood is closed.

I can turn on ignition - 5F unit says it's on and I can operate it without any problems. Cluster does also turn on. Measuring values in driver door also says the doors are unlocked. Should I've just buy a "safety switch for central locking" eg. 5TA962125 ?

Code:
Sunday,04,April,2021,00:17:30:21529
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 21.3.0.0 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4543.4
Data version: 20210226 DS325.0
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: WVGZZZ1TZHW03xxxx   License Plate: TEST SETUP
Mileage: 64242km-39918mi   Repair Order:



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Chassis Type: 1T-VW37 (5Q0)
Scan: 09 17 19 42 52 5F

VIN: WVGZZZ1TZHW038734   Mileage: 64242km-39918miles

09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
17-Instruments -- Status: Malfunction 0010
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: Malfunction 0010
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
5F-Information Electr. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 09: Cent. Elect.
Cannot be reached
Unable to communicate with address 09. Are you sure the doors are unlocked?

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5G0-920-XXX-17.clb-SRI3
   Part No SW: 5TA 920 750 A    HW: 5TA 920 750 A
   Component: KOMBI         302 9630 
   Coding: 078D01000080000801087F000400000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_DashBoardJCIMQBAB 009007
   ROD: EV_DashBoardJCIMQBAB_009_VW37.rod
   VCID: 42DD483DF40A908BD97-8016

7 Faults Found:
9453074 - Fuel Level Sensor 1
          B103E 1B [009] - Resistance Too High
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 100
                    Mileage: 64242 km
                    Date: 2019.11.09
                    Time: 00:12:58

10485828 - Internal Control Module Memory Check Sum Error
          B2000 41 [009] - General checksum failure
          [Steuergerät defekt (Fehler durch Selbsttest entdeckt)]
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 00:00:00

13639936 - Databus
          U1123 00 [009] - Received Error Message
          [Steuergerät für BCM / Bordnetz / el. ZE: bitte Fehlerspeicher auslesen]
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 100
                    Mileage: 64242 km
                    Date: 2019.11.09
                    Time: 00:12:38

16776962 - Databus
          U1121 00 [009] - Missing Message
          [Airbag_01 keine Kommunikation]
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 100
                    Mileage: 64242 km
                    Date: 2019.11.09
                    Time: 00:12:39

16776968 - Databus
          U1121 00 [009] - Missing Message
          [ESP_24 keine Kommunikation]
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 100
                    Mileage: 64242 km
                    Date: 2019.11.09
                    Time: 00:12:39

16776971 - Databus
          U1121 00 [009] - Missing Message
          [Motor_04 keine Kommunikation]
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 100
                    Mileage: 64242 km
                    Date: 2019.11.09
                    Time: 00:12:38

16776988 - Databus
          U1121 00 [009] - Missing Message
          [TSK_07 keine Kommunikation]
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 100
                    Mileage: 64242 km
                    Date: 2019.11.09
                    Time: 00:12:39


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:| 5Q0-907-530-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 907 530 AM    HW: 5Q0 907 530 F
   Component: GW MQB High   128 1265 
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 0005350389
   Coding: 000000343F085700FB00025C1C0F00010001050000000000000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_GatewLear 013020
   ROD: EV_GatewLear_013.rod
   VCID: 7CA1F6C5D66E267BD3B-8028

1 Fault Found:
131658 - Door Control Module - Driver's Door
          U0199 00 [008] - No Communications
          [Timeout Knoten 0x4A / 42 - Türsteuergerät Fahrerseite]
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 140
                    Mileage: 64242 km
                    Date: 2019.11.09
                    Time: 00:03:36

                    Terminal 30 power supply: 13.5 V
                    Terminal 15: On


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels:| 5QX-959-X93-42.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 959 593 E    HW: 5Q0 959 593 B
   Component: TSG FS        020 0041 
   Serial number: 040318EC406273
   Coding: 000001200000040100001000
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_DCUDriveSideEWMAXKLO 006003
   ROD: EV_DCUDriveSideEWMAXCONT.rod
   VCID: 43D34D39EB109983D21-8016

7 Faults Found:
65620 - invalid data record
          B2005 00 [009] - -
          [Türelektronik: ungültiger Datensatz]
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 100
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 00:00:00

65621 - Locking Module for Central Locking
          B122F 29 [009] - Signal Implausible
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 100
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 00:00:00

458752 - Databus
          U1121 00 [009] - Missing Message
          [Airbag_01 Datenbus fehlende Botschaft]
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 100
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 00:00:00

458776 - Databus
          U1121 00 [009] - Missing Message
          [Gateway_71 Datenbus fehlende Botschaft]
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 100
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 00:00:00

458788 - Databus
          U1121 00 [008] - Missing Message
          [Klemmen_Status_01 Datenbus fehlende Botschaft]
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 140
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 00:00:00

458794 - Databus
          U1121 00 [008] - Missing Message
          [Kombi_02 Datenbus fehlende Botschaft]
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 140
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 00:00:00

458803 - Databus
          U1121 00 [009] - Missing Message
          [Motor_14 Datenbus fehlende Botschaft]
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 100
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 00:00:00


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels:| 5QX-959-X92-52.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 959 592 E    HW: 5Q0 959 592 B
   Component: TSG BFS       020 0041 
   Serial number: 020618EES23826
   Coding: 000001200000040100001000
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_DCUPasseSideEWMAXKLO 006003
   ROD: EV_DCUPasseSideEWMAXCONT.rod
   VCID: 42DD483DF40A908BD97-8016

7 Faults Found:
65570 - Function Restricted due to Missing Message(s)
          U1111 00 [008] - -
          [Türelektronik Fahrer (J386)]
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 140
                    Mileage: 64242 km
                    Date: 2019.11.09
                    Time: 00:03:34

65620 - invalid data record
          B2005 00 [009] - -
          [Türelektronik: ungültiger Datensatz]
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 100
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 00:00:00

458752 - Databus
          U1121 00 [009] - Missing Message
          [Airbag_01 Datenbus fehlende Botschaft]
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 100
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 00:00:00

458776 - Databus
          U1121 00 [009] - Missing Message
          [Gateway_71 Datenbus fehlende Botschaft]
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 100
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 00:00:00

458788 - Databus
          U1121 00 [008] - Missing Message
          [Klemmen_Status_01 Datenbus fehlende Botschaft]
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 140
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 00:00:00

458794 - Databus
          U1121 00 [008] - Missing Message
          [Kombi_02 Datenbus fehlende Botschaft]
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 140
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 00:00:00

458803 - Databus
          U1121 00 [009] - Missing Message
          [Motor_14 Datenbus fehlende Botschaft]
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 100
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 00:00:00


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794)       Labels:| 5G0-035-MIB-STD2.clb
   Part No SW: 3Q0 035 874 A    HW: 3Q0 035 874 A
   Component: MU-S-ND-ER    H24 0245 
   Serial number: VWZAZ2S0090741
   Coding: 02620001BE00000051111101008808001F0100C401200100CF
   Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   ASAM Dataset: EV_MUStd4CTSAT 001022
   ROD: EV_MUStd4CTSAT_VW26.rod
   VCID: 303912F54AA6121B3F3-8064

   Display and control head 1 for information electronics:
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5G6 919 605 A    HW: 5G6 919 605 A
   Component: ABT_Std-2  H50 8130
   Serial number: VWZ6ZJT3645383     

   Data carrier:
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5NA 919 866 BG    HW: -----------
   Component: ECE AS 2021  --- 1520
   Serial number: --------------------

32 Faults Found:
1555 - Check Software Version Management
          B201A 00 [009] - -
          [Check software version management]
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 180

                    Voltage terminal 30: 13.7 V
                    Status_Software_Version_Management-module_name: D

15360768 - Component Protection
          U1101 00 [009] - Active
          [Anti-theft protection - component protection active (0xEA6300)]
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 100
                    Mileage: 64242 km

                    Voltage terminal 30: 13.6 V

0512 - Rear Right Bass Speaker
          B1067 13 [009] - Open Circuit
          [Tieftonlautsprecher Kanal 1: Unterbrechung (DC-Diagnose)]
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 180

                    Voltage terminal 30: 13.7 V

0517 - Front Right Bass Speaker
          B1062 13 [009] - Open Circuit
          [Tieftonlautsprecher Kanal 2: Unterbrechung (DC-Diagnose)]
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 180

                    Voltage terminal 30: 13.7 V

0522 - Front Left Bass Speaker
          B105F 13 [009] - Open Circuit
          [Tieftonlautsprecher Kanal 3: Unterbrechung (DC-Diagnose)]
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 180

                    Voltage terminal 30: 13.7 V

0527 - Rear Left Bass Speaker
          B1065 13 [009] - Open Circuit
          [Tieftonlautsprecher Kanal 4: Unterbrechung (DC-Diagnose)]
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 180
                    Mileage: 91882 km
                    Date: 2020.09.14
                    Time: 09:07:34

                    Voltage terminal 30: 11.7 V

0005 - Antenna Amplifier 1 for Radio
          B126D 13 [009] - Open Circuit
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 100

                    Voltage terminal 30: 13.7 V
                    Status of antenna 1 for radio-Antenna current: 0 mA
                    Status of antenna 1 for radio-Connection between radio and antenna amplifier: electrically OK
                    Status of antenna 1 for radio-Connection between antenna amplifier and antenna: electrically OK
                    Status of antenna 1 for radio-Reception level antenna 1: 0 dBµV

0006 - Antenna Amplifier 2 for Radio
          B126E 13 [009] - Open Circuit
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 100
                    Mileage: 91882 km
                    Date: 2020.09.14
                    Time: 07:38:54

                    Voltage terminal 30: 11.1 V
                    Status of antenna 2 for radio-Antenna current: 0 mA
                    Status of antenna 2 for radio-Connection between radio and antenna amplifier: electrically OK
                    Status of antenna 2 for radio-Connection between antenna amplifier and antenna: electrically OK
                    Status of antenna 2 for radio-Reception level antenna 2: 0 dBµV

0013 - Antenna Amplifier 1 for Digital Radio
          B1270 13 [009] - Open Circuit
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 100

                    Voltage terminal 30: 13.7 V
                    Status of digital radio antenna 1-Antenna current: 0 mA
                    Status of digital radio antenna 1-Connection between radio and antenna amplifier: electrically OK
                    Status of digital radio antenna 1-Connection between antenna amplifier and antenna: electrically OK
                    Status of digital radio antenna 1-DAB_Bit_Error_Rate_FIC: 0.000000
                    Status of digital radio antenna 1-DAB_Bit_Error_Rate_MSC: 0.000000

2565 - GPS Antenna
          B1054 13 [009] - Open Circuit
          [GPS aerial - open circuit]
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 180

                    Voltage terminal 30: 13.7 V

1564 - Microphone 1
          B129B 13 [009] - Open Circuit
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 180

                    Voltage terminal 30: 13.7 V

6697 - Databus
          U1121 00 [009] - Missing Message
          [Airbag: no communication]
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 100

                    Voltage terminal 30: 13.7 V
                    Network diagnosis-Status: Enabled

6700 - Databus
          U1121 00 [008] - Missing Message
          [Dimming: no communication]
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 140

                    Voltage terminal 30: 13.7 V
                    Network diagnosis-Status: Enabled

6702 - Databus
          U1121 00 [009] - Missing Message
          [ESP: no communication]
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 100

                    Voltage terminal 30: 13.7 V
                    Network diagnosis-Status: Enabled

6705 - Databus
          U1121 00 [008] - Missing Message
          [Terminal_status: no communication]
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 140

                    Voltage terminal 30: 13.7 V
                    Network diagnosis-Status: Enabled

6706 - Databus
          U1121 00 [008] - Missing Message
          [Instrument cluster: no communication]
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 140

                    Voltage terminal 30: 13.7 V
                    Network diagnosis-Status: Enabled

6708 - Databus
          U1121 00 [009] - Missing Message
          [Engine: no communication]
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 100

                    Voltage terminal 30: 13.7 V
                    Network diagnosis-Status: Enabled

6714 - Databus
          U1121 00 [008] - Missing Message
          [VIN: no communication]
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 140

                    Voltage terminal 30: 13.7 V
                    Network diagnosis-Status: Enabled

6718 - Databus
          U1121 00 [008] - Missing Message
          [BCM: no communication]
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 140

                    Voltage terminal 30: 13.7 V
                    Network diagnosis-Status: Enabled

6927 - Function Restricted due to Missing Message(s)
          U1111 00 [008] - -
          [Trip computer setup (0x0F) - function restriction due to communication error - BapErr_timeout: heartbeat]
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 140
                    Mileage: 64242 km
                    Date: 2019.11.09
                    Time: 00:01:08

                    Voltage terminal 30: 13.6 V

6929 - Function Restricted due to Missing Message(s)
          U1111 00 [008] - -
          [Time/date (0x11) - function restriction due to communication error - BapErr_timeout: heartbeat]
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 140
                    Mileage: 64242 km
                    Date: 2019.11.09
                    Time: 00:01:08

                    Voltage terminal 30: 13.6 V

6930 - Function Restricted due to Missing Message(s)
          U1111 00 [008] - -
          [Service interval display + oil level display (0x12) - function restriction due to communication error - BapErr_timeout: heartbeat]
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 140
                    Mileage: 64242 km
                    Date: 2019.11.09
                    Time: 00:01:08

                    Voltage terminal 30: 13.6 V

6931 - Function Restricted due to Missing Message(s)
          U1111 00 [008] - -
          [Central unit master (0x13) - function restriction due to communication error - BapErr_timeout: heartbeat]
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 140
                    Mileage: 64242 km
                    Date: 2019.11.09
                    Time: 00:01:08

                    Voltage terminal 30: 13.6 V

7173 - Function Restricted due to Missing Message(s)
          U1111 00 [009] - -
          [ACC (0x05) - function restriction due to communication error - BapErr_retry not successful]
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 100

                    Voltage terminal 30: 13.7 V
                    BAP-BAP_Function_ID: 02

7175 - Function Restricted due to Missing Message(s)
          U1111 00 [009] - -
          [Tire pressure monitoring (0x07) - function restriction due to communication error - BapErr_retry not successful]
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 100

                    Voltage terminal 30: 13.7 V
                    BAP-BAP_Function_ID: 02

7183 - Function Restricted due to Missing Message(s)
          U1111 00 [008] - -
          [Trip computer setup (0x0F) - function restriction due to communication error - BapErr_retry not successful]
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 140

                    Voltage terminal 30: 13.7 V
                    BAP-BAP_Function_ID: 02

7185 - Function Restricted due to Missing Message(s)
          U1111 00 [008] - -
          [Time/date (0x11) - function restriction due to communication error - BapErr_retry not successful]
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 140

                    Voltage terminal 30: 13.7 V
                    BAP-BAP_Function_ID: 02

7186 - Function Restricted due to Missing Message(s)
          U1111 00 [008] - -
          [Service interval display + oil level display (0x12) - function restriction due to communication error - BapErr_retry not successful]
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 140

                    Voltage terminal 30: 13.7 V
                    BAP-BAP_Function_ID: 02

7187 - Function Restricted due to Missing Message(s)
          U1111 00 [008] - -
          [Central unit master (0x13) - function restriction due to communication error - BapErr_retry not successful]
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 140

                    Voltage terminal 30: 13.7 V
                    BAP-BAP_Function_ID: 02

7195 - Function Restricted due to Missing Message(s)
          U1111 00 [009] - -
          [Brake assist system (0x1B) - function restriction due to communication error - BapErr_retry not successful]
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 100

                    Voltage terminal 30: 13.7 V
                    BAP-BAP_Function_ID: 02

7206 - Function Restricted due to Missing Message(s)
          U1111 00 [009] - -
          [Brake (0x26) - function restriction due to communication error - BapErr_retry not successful]
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 100

                    Voltage terminal 30: 13.7 V
                    BAP-BAP_Function_ID: 02

1637 - Interface for External Media
          U11B8 00 [009] - No Communications
          [USB - communication error]
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 100

                    Voltage terminal 30: 13.6 V
                    Interface for external media: status-Status: Open circuit


End----------(Elapsed Time: 00:19, VBatt start/end: 13.7V/13.7V)-----------
 
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I wonder if you've got the same issue as I have (as DV52 kindly pointed out), that you need to "wake up" the BCM with the steering column electronics module (when you "turn" the key on). Without it, the BCM stays asleep despite applying all appropriate +12V T15/T30 power inputs.

I've since dumped my initial PQ35 setup and I'm in the process of acquiring MQB modules (got some from a 2017 Golf), but I'm still lacking the steering column module, otherwise I'd gladly help!
 
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Could be. I’m upgrading my car with a new steering column so the module 16 will be removed and be a sub module of BCM instead due to new Passat B8 facelift steering wheel.

Then I’ll have a steering column electronics module that I can use.
 
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the module 16 will be removed and be a sub module of BCM

@diskoboy: hmm....not as I understand!! If I'm correct, I think that the steering wheel module (@ address hex16) has full CAN status on MQB platform vehicles. So it should be reported on an auto-scan as a top tier module with the same CAN hierarchy as the BCM.

I've not read anything formal from VAG to substantiate this, but from my observations, the elusive wake-up signal appears to be generated in the hex16 module and it is communicated to the BCM (and other modules, presumably) over the CAN network. I don't believe that there is any master-slave relationship between the 2 x modules.

In addition to the gateway module, you will need to simulate the multi-switch that sits behind the ignition lock for the wake-up signal to happen. The wiring loom for this multi-switch is directly connected into the hex16 module. I solved this problem by buying a new multi-switch (it's not expensive), but I believe that Ross-Tech folk cobbled together a series of "jumper wires". If you choose the RT approach, the pictures below might be useful:

VgaDXNR.png


The bottom left picture is the hex16 connector and the bottom right picture is the mating connector from the multi-switch. The upper bank of pins are electrically connected to the corresponding pin on the lower bank.

Finally, the "S" switch is a single-pole-single-throw device. It's closed when the key shaft fully enters the lock mechanism- it remains closed throughout the ignition/engine-start sequence and the switch opens only when the key is removed. I found it important to correctly mimic this dynamic for some BCM and door module functions. To do this I cannibal-ised my new multi-switch and brought-out both contacts (using wires) to a separate external switch.

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@diskoboy: hmm....not as I understand!! If I'm correct, I think that the steering wheel module (@ address hex16) has full CAN status on MQB platform vehicles. So it should be reported on an auto-scan as a top tier module with the same CAN hierarchy as the BCM.

I've not read anything formal from VAG to substantiate this, but from my observations, the elusive wake-up signal appears to be generated in the hex16 module and it is communicated to the BCM (and other modules, presumably) over the CAN network. I don't believe that there is any master-slave relationship between the 2 x modules.
In MY19 or thereabouts MQB models (Golf 7.5, Tiguan etc) introduced before that time started receiving steering wheel modules, which in autoscans appear as sub-modules of the BCM, not as a discrete CAN module at address 16.

Some examples:
 
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I just wanted to mention this vendor ; I think is along the same lines ,so to speak, as your test bench idea.... but a bit larger. But , it may get you started and you can refine from there. Obviously, it is manufacturer specific: this fellow, it appears, purchases a entire salvage car and cuts it in half, then plugs in the modules and ECU's etc, to test them! I realize it is not bench top, but it should get you started. ?????????? I think the "car room" starts at 1:50 ish. For inspiration purposes !!!

 
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In MY19 or thereabouts MQB models (Golf 7.5, Tiguan etc) introduced before that time started receiving steering wheel modules, which in autoscans appear as sub-modules of the BCM, not as a discrete CAN module at address 16.

@siLc: Very true! I might have assumed too much - it's just with all the references to "hex16", I assumed that OP's car was the traditional full-CAN version!! I can't find an auto-scan of @diskoboy car to tell which version the modules are sourced from the donor car

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I just wanted to mention this vendor ; I think is along the same lines ,so to speak, as your test bench idea.... but a bit larger. But , it may get you started and you can refine from there. Obviously, it is manufacturer specific: this fellow, it appears, purchases a entire salvage car and cuts it in half, then plugs in the modules and ECU's etc, to test them! I realize it is not bench top, but it should get you started. ?????????? I think the "car room" starts at 1:50 ish. For inspiration purposes !!!

@stefdds: After seeing your video, I grabbed my disc grinder and fired-up my welder in preparation to visiting my local salvage yard.

But, after further thought, I realized that the video solution is far too easy; it removes all the fun of creating wiring looms for the test-bench from scratch (and figuring-out which pins to connect)!!

Plus, the video solution doesn't end-up looking like a bowl of spaghetti - which is an essential part of a functioning test-bench IMO!! ;)

Don
 
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@stefdds: After seeing your video, I grabbed my disc grinder and fired-up my welder in preparation to visiting my local salvage yard.

But, after further thought, I realized that the video solution is far too easy; it removes all the fun of creating wiring looms for the test-bench from scratch (and figuring-out which pins to connect)!!

Plus, the video solution doesn't end-up looking like a bowl of spaghetti - which is an essential part of a functioning test-bench IMO!! ;)

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Hi Don, I certainly understand ; not exactly elegant ! All the best, Stefan
 
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great thread, I am also sourcing parts to build a MQB test set on a bench ;)
 
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Got my CANbus signal generator improved a bit. Now I'm able to fool an instrument cluster into thinking it's racing at 260 km/h, at 7.000 RPM at 9th gear, while it's actually sitting calmly on a wood bench. There are a few issues yet to be fixed though, but I'm working on it. Thanks all for the inspiration.

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@Ronaldo : I'm pea-green with envy!!! Without divulging anything that you want to remain secret - can disclose more about what's behind the the knobs/switches in the black-box?

And, there appears to be wires that disappear behind the table-clamp. Other than equipment shown - is there any more stuff needed for your set-up?

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@Ronaldo : I'm pea-green with envy!!! Without divulging anything that you want to remain secret - can disclose more about what's behind the the knobs/switches in the black-box?

And, there appears to be wires that disappear behind the table-clamp. Other than equipment shown - is there any more stuff needed for your set-up?

Don
I'm more than happy to disclose everything about the project if someone is interested. Circuit mounting was actually pretty simple and most of the effort was looking for documentation, sometimes sniffing CANbus traffic in a real car and figuring out how to generate valid messages, as there is no much information that I could find about some of the messages used by MQB platform.
Here is a pic of the box with the top cover open. Basically it's an Arduino Uno board with a Digistump CAN bus interface mounted on top and a MQB gateway with wires connected to all 5 buses, plus the diagnostic port connected to an OBD connector where I can plug my HEX-V2 to.

gnVuvJr.jpg


The unit is powered by a 12V external power supply (probably from an obsolete laptop computer, I'm not sure where it came from) and there is also a USB port I can use to upload code to the Arduino. The wires that come from the box are the 5 twisted pairs (identified by color) corresponding to the 5 buses and two pairs of 12V-GND to power up ECUs. In the instrument cluster test shown in the pictures I'm only using the convenience CAN bus wires and a pair of +12V-GND, there are no other devices connected to the box, but I could connect many other ECUs if needed.
There is also a switch at the lower right side of the box that isolates the gateway and connects the OBD port directly to the convenience CANbus if necessary. I'm still unsure if that's the best solution but that's how I solved the problem of avoiding conflicting messages when I want to test generating some messages that are also generated by the gateway.
Switches, buttons and pots mounted on the top cover are connected to the arduino through a bunch of wires, so I can also get some spaghetti look in my testbench. Plans include adding more controls while I still have analog and digital ports available.
 
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@Ronaldo : Wow- Respect!!

I think you mean a MCP2515 CAN-BUS Shield by DIY MORE (I'm not aware that DIGISTUMP makes a CAN shield - but you may be correct).

Your 2nd picture answers my other question from your previous post: what happened to the CAN Gateway module? Clearly it was hidden (read "neatly located") in the black box!! So- on my MQB test-bench, the Gateway module has a T15 pin that I've powered from a relay whose coil is triggered by a signal from the BCM (following a simulated ignition key turn). Does your hex19 module not need this T15 signal?

Neat solution using the Convenience CAN switch to isolate the hex17 module! Is this switch the reason why the hex17 module isn't showing any signs of CP error in your first pic - or did you source the hex19 and hex17 modules from the same car? Or have you solved the CP error problem entirely?

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@Ronaldo : Wow- Respect!!

I think you mean a MCP2515 CAN-BUS Shield by DIY MORE (I'm not aware that DIGISTUMP makes a CAN shield - but you may be correct).

Your 2nd picture answers my other question from your previous post: what happened to the CAN Gateway module? Clearly it was hidden (read "neatly located") in the black box!! So- on my MQB test-bench, the Gateway module has a T15 pin that I've powered from a relay whose coil is triggered by a signal from the BCM (following a simulated ignition key turn). Does your hex19 module not need this T15 signal?

Neat solution using the Convenience CAN switch to isolate the hex17 module! Is this switch the reason why the hex17 module isn't showing any signs of CP error in your first pic - or did you source the hex19 and hex17 modules from the same car? Or have you solved the CP error problem entirely?

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Hi, Don. You're probably correct about the shield not being made by Digistump. I made tests with a few different boards and I can't remember all I tested. In this case I choose that one because it mounts on the Arduino Uno board and extends its connections so I can easily connect and disconnect wires to it without soldering/unsoldering, but other MCP2515 based, like the popular Niren shield, work perfectly. Maybe I'll eventually have to add more CANbus interfaces to the project so I can send signals to all buses according to the correct source expected by the gateway. I still didn't generate so many different messages but I'm aware of the fact that the gateway may not forward messages that come from the "wrong" bus to the others. Having a different interface for each bus would be a perfect solution, but while I still don't have it, I can always connect all modules to the same bus as a workaround.

My gateway worked normally without the T15 pin signal. It seems that the CANbus message Klemmen_Status_01 is more relevant or reliable for the module than the physical signal. The only fault I had with T15 pin disconnected was an "ignition status implausible" (or something like that) on the DTC list, but everything worked. Anyway, I eventually connected the pin to a 5 volt signal in the position corresponding to Klemme_15 in the "PWR/K S/K 15" switch (which corresponds to the "car"'s ignition switch in my box) because I wanted to eliminate the DTC and now I no longer have any faults. At first I didn't know if the right voltage for the signal would be 5v or 12v and I didn't want to risk blowing up the module with 12v, so I tried 5v first, and it woked so I didn't even tried other voltages.

Avoiding to fire a CP error on some modules was another reason for me to include the switch in the project and I planned to make all tests on the instrument cluster with the gateway disconnected, but I accidentally tested it once with the gateway on :facepalm: and nothing happened (and modules are not from same car), then I didn't worry anymore about the position of the switch. I confess I don't know much on how CP works, maybe I'm just lucky, but had no problems so far.
 
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@Ronaldo: Appropros of the T15 voltage on the hex19 module, here's an extract from the MQB WD:
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I've highlighted the relevant pin (i.e. pin#14 on the 20 x pin connector). As you can see, this pin is connected to A192 - which has the term "15a" in the description. This means T15 -which is a switched +12V signal. I'm surprised that your hex19 module accepts +5V as a substitute. A car battery with +5V voltage at its terminals would be very sick indeed!!

As for CP - it's generally not a problem on a test-bench in that modules with active CP errors can still be accessed for most normal VCDS purposes, albeit CP errors will limit normal "user" functions (like no sound on the MIB unit) . The exception for a module with CP error is the hex17 module -which will display SAFE CP on the center part of the screen (but the module features are still otherwise accessible)

CP is touted by VAG as the answer to the black market trade in stolen modules, but it has other advantages for the corporation in that it locks-in the dealer's role for changing/adding modules.

Here's a brief description (from the Golf mk7 SSP) of how CP operates:
Component protection
Component protection applies for a​
variety of control units.​
This is designed to prevent any unauthorised​
replacement of components.​
The component protection master used is the data bus​
diagnostic interface J533.​
Following replacement, control units with component​
protection must be enabled online by FAZIT, or the​
control unit will be restricted in function or will not​
work at all.​
A component protection comparison is usually performed​
by the diagnostic interface for every terminal​
15-ON cycle, and the validity of the installation is​
checked.​
If it is determined that a known constellation of​
devices is working in the same way as during the last​
driving cycle, then the control units are enabled for​
regular functions.​
If this is not the case for a control unit, then the​
component protection is activated in this control unit,​
which has an impact on its function.​
And here is the accompanying CAN Network schematic for the CP constellation:
9pBBYSr.png


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@Ronaldo: Appropros of the T15 voltage on the hex19 module, here's an extract from the MQB WD:


I've highlighted the relevant pin (i.e. pin#14 on the 20 x pin connector). As you can see, this pin is connected to A192 - which has the term "15a" in the description. This means T15 -which is a switched +12V signal. I'm surprised that your hex19 module accepts +5V as a substitute. A car battery with +5V voltage at its terminals would be very sick indeed!!

As for CP - it's generally not a problem on a test-bench in that modules with active CP errors can still be accessed for most normal VCDS purposes, albeit CP errors will limit normal "user" functions (like no sound on the MIB unit) . The exception for a module with CP error is the hex17 module -which will display SAFE CP on the center part of the screen (but the module features are still otherwise accessible)

CP is touted by VAG as the answer to the black market trade in stolen modules, but it has other advantages for the corporation in that it locks-in the dealer's role for changing/adding modules.

Here's a brief description (from the Golf mk7 SSP) of how CP operates:
Component protection
Component protection applies for a​
variety of control units.​
This is designed to prevent any unauthorised​
replacement of components.​
The component protection master used is the data bus​
diagnostic interface J533.​
Following replacement, control units with component​
protection must be enabled online by FAZIT, or the​
control unit will be restricted in function or will not​
work at all.​
A component protection comparison is usually performed​
by the diagnostic interface for every terminal​
15-ON cycle, and the validity of the installation is​
checked.​
If it is determined that a known constellation of​
devices is working in the same way as during the last​
driving cycle, then the control units are enabled for​
regular functions.​
If this is not the case for a control unit, then the​
component protection is activated in this control unit,​
which has an impact on its function.​
And here is the accompanying CAN Network schematic for the CP constellation:


Don

Thanks for the info! I was wondering why I didn't realize the "T15 on" signal on pin 14 was simply a connection to T15, then I checked the Audi A3 Wiring Diagrams I used as a guide, and it seems that, differently from the WD you posted, my manuals only refer to the connection as "Connection 2, in main wiring harness", with no reference to the T15, and that's why I wasn't sure about the nature of the signal.

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Anyway, it really wasn't supposed to accept 5V as a "1" when 12v are expected, but fortunately it worked, which made things simpler to connect in the existing circuitry of the box. If it didn't I still could use the "OFF/K S/K 15" switch because it has two poles and all I would have to do is using separate poles to switch the arduino inputs and the T15 signal for the gateway,

And thanks too for the info on CP. Up to now I didn't notice any CP related erros in the DTC record, or any apparent loss of functionality in the cluster. Speed, RPM, gear shift, engine temperature and mileage are all responding as expected. I just didn't find the codes to browse the "board computer" features yet but I hope I can do it without having to buy a MFSW. There are also a few "CP counter" data fields that can be accessed through VCDS Advanced Measuring Values, but they all seem to be set to zero. As I said before, maybe I'm just lucky, but I'll not be sure about that until I check all the features.
 
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Hi,
i have tried the script from Ronaldo,
On my Test-Bench say's the Gateway Terminal via CAN - not available.

As Hardware use i:
Arduino Uno R3 & MCP2515,
and MQB Gateway

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Hi,
i have tried the script from Ronaldo,
On my Test-Bench say's the Gateway Terminal via CAN - not available.

As Hardware use i:
Arduino Uno R3 & MCP2515,
and MQB Gateway

unbenanntsekkh.png

Hi. There is an error in the code I posted (a lacking in a line of code) but most people figure it out when compiling and correct it by themselves. Did you install the jumper for the terminator resistor on the MCP2515 board?
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Can you tell me what I must fixed in the code?
I don't install the jumper on the board.
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