"Value out of Range" after several changes

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2012 Tiguan SEL NA region- was fooling around getting my Kessy keyfob to fold my mirrors, when to Adaptation in Module 42, Security Access enabled. Per other user forums elsewhere went to System_Parameter_0 System Byte 8, changed the existing value from 90 to 95, that didn't work. Other folks had success with 9F, that didn't work for me. The tried to change the value back to 90...the dreaded "Value out of Range" message appears. Didn't notice any consequences of this new value, but just curious- could a value change lock out further changes?

And before anyone asks, I asked my (very friendly) dealer to enable the mirror-fold-via-keyfob function, which he did, but the value in ...Byte 8 is still 9F. So it is possible with a NA Gen4 module, but YMMV.

Below is my Autoscan for what it's worth. Not sure why 09 is showing a malfunction in the initial summary but not in the body of the scan. Just noticed it now, did not try to clear it.

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Friday,01,April,2016,19:46:42:12803
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 8.1 x64
VCDS Version: 15.7.4.1 (x64)
Data version: 20160216
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VIN: WVGAV7AX7CW66666   License Plate: 01 APR 2016
Mileage: 56830km-35312mi   Repair Order: after Mossy



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Chassis Type: AX (7N0)
Scan: 01 02 03 05 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 2B 2E 36 37 42 44 46 4C 4F
          52 53 55 56 62 6C 72 77

VIN: WVGAV7AX7CW555910   Mileage: 56830km-35312miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
2B-Steer. Col. Lock -- Status: OK 0000
2E-Media Player 3 -- Status: OK 0000
36-Seat Mem. Drvr -- Status: OK 0000
37-Navigation -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
4C-Tire Pressure II -- Status: OK 0000
4F-Centr. Electr. II -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
53-Parking Brake -- Status: OK 0000
55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
6C-Back-up Cam. -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000
 
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Address 01: Engine (CCT)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 06J 997 029 N    HW: 06J 907 309 A
   Component: MED17.5.2 TFSI 2    1518  
   Revision: P3H07---    Serial number:               
   Coding: 0423010A19070160
   Shop #: WSC 45176 001 1048576
   VCID: 42A5A3DD1DBDD22E28-8016

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0000 0000

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Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 09G-927-750.clb
   Part No SW: 09G 927 750 NK    HW: 09G 927 750 LR
   Component: AQ 250 6F           2248  
   Revision: 00H90000    Serial number:               
   Coding: 0000840
   Shop #: WSC 22134 444 100649
   VCID: 073372C9761F37063F-8052

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 5N0-614-109-C6.clb
   Part No SW: 5N0 614 109 AP    HW: 5N0 614 109 AP
   Component: J104   C6 450M VD98 0005  
   Revision: --H07---    Serial number: 00000005127628
   Coding: 0005158
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 79D7043130EB51F639-802C

No fault code found.

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Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. (J518)       Labels: 5K0-959-434.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 959 434 B    HW: 5K0 959 434 B
   Component: VWKESSYPQ35GP 085 0902  
   Revision: 00085000    Serial number: 0160850823
   Coding: 030C0C
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_KESSYPQ35G A02013
   ROD: EV_KESSYPQ35G.rod
   VCID: 3449F5059F096C9EAA-8060

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels: 5K0-907-044.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 907 044 FE    HW: 5K0 907 044 FE
   Component: Climatronic   H18 1112  
   Revision: 00001004    
   Coding: 0000001002
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Climatronic A01010
   ROD: EV_ClimaAutoBasis_VW36.rod
   VCID: 73CB3619DA872BA673-8026

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels: 1K0-937-08x-09.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 937 086 N    HW: 5K0 937 086 N
   Component: BCM PQ35 M    021 0064  
   Revision: BJ021001    
   Coding: 6F180A3B88332EC4008800C134000D444855AE06576D8DF0E4840000A040
   Shop #: WSC 45176 001 1048576
   VCID: 3FA3AA29AE4FBFC647-806A

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 5N1 955 119 A  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: WWS 131211 03  32  0010 
   Coding: 009795

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 955 559 AH  Labels: 1K0-955-559-AG.CLB
   Component: RLS 031211 05  54  0403 
   Coding: 07304D

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 5N0-959-655.lbl
   Part No SW: 5N0 959 655 P    HW: 5N0 959 655 P
   Component: J234__204 VW10 HI   1918  
   Revision: 23016000    Serial number: 003GJPQB54E.  
   Coding: 0012340
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 4AB58BFD258D0A6EE0-801E

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 5N0 959 339 B
   Component: BF-Gewichtsens. 003 0001

   Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 00000000005M0W

   Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 0024.11.110000300000630129ÿ†63

   Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 630129ÿ†6332MTS635453351 ÿ†63

   Subsystem 5 - Serial number: 53351 ÿ†6342MTS648943321 ÿ†63

   Subsystem 6 - Serial number: 43321 ÿ†6351HTS6N7BAV9KJ ÿ†63

   Subsystem 7 - Serial number: AV9KJ ÿ†6361HTS6I32IU9KJ ÿ†63

   Subsystem 8 - Serial number: IU9KJ ÿ†63727TS621N2U9KJ ÿ†63

   Subsystem 9 - Serial number: 2U9KJ ÿ†63827TS6E9N2U9KR ÿ

   Subsystem 10 - Serial number: 2U9KR ÿ

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels: 5K0-953-569.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 501 BL    HW: 5K0 953 569 L
   Component: LENKS.MODUL   014 0140  
   Revision: FF010040    Serial number: 20111209101747
   Coding: 1102140000
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_VW360SteerWheelUDS A03004
   ROD: EV_VW360SteerWheelUDS.rod
   VCID: 75CF0801D4F335965D-8020

   Multi Function Steering Wheel Control Module: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 542 A    HW: 5K0 959 542 A  Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
   Component: E221__MFL-TAS  H09 0013 
   Coding: 820000

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb
   Part No SW: 5N0 920 972 E    HW: 5N0 920 972 E
   Component: KOMBI         H04 0617  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 211F01
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04114
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_SK35.rod
   VCID: 354FC801947375969D-8060

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels: 7N0-907-530-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 907 530 P    HW: 1K0 907 951 
   Component: J533  Gateway H40 1623  
   Revision:   H40       Serial number: 091211F1002378
   Coding: 356002
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 3D5FD021A443ADD655-8068

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234 
   Component: IMMO          H04 0617  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 000007
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03009
   ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_SE25.rod
   VCID: 6AF52B7D8D4DEA6EC0-803E

No fault code found.

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Address 2B: Steer. Col. Lock (J764)       Labels: 5K0-905-861.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 905 861 A    HW: 5K0 905 861 A
   Component: ELV-PQ35      H20 0230  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 11000277963002
   Coding: 4900000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ELVMarquMPVW36X A01001
   ROD: EV_ELVMarquMPVW36X.rod
   VCID: 2E7DE76D7125464EDC-807A

No fault code found.

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Address 2E: Media Player 3 (J650)       Labels: 5N0-035-342.lbl
   Part No SW: 5N0 035 342 E    HW: 5N0 035 342 E
   Component: SG EXT.PLAYER H13 0240  
   Revision: A1001003    Serial number: 7661473023    
   Coding: 010000
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 2977147140CB217609-807C

No fault code found.

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Address 36: Seat Mem. Drvr (J136)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 561 959 760 A    HW: 561 959 760 A
   Component: MEM-FS        H04 0181  
   Revision: AA000000    Serial number: 00000018365390
   Coding: 00581B0000000000000001010101202020202121202020
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 21670C5138FBE93651-8074

No fault code found.

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Address 37: Navigation (J0506)       Labels: 1T0-035-680.clb
   Part No SW: 3C8 035 684 E    HW: 3C8 035 684 E
   Component: RNS-MID       H61 3680  
   Revision: AB001001    Serial number: VWZ6Z7L7348052
   Coding: 0400040204000086000C
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 2D7FE06174233D56E5-8078

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels: 3C0-959-70X-GEN4.clb
   Part No SW: 5N0 959 701 G    HW: 3C0 959 793 C
   Component: TUER-SG FT    002 0503  
   Revision: 12110009    Serial number: 0004041654
   Coding: 0015BE
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_TSGFPQ35BRFVW46X A04001
   ROD: EV_TSGFPQ35BRFVW46X.rod
   VCID: 3957C431B86B91F679-806C

   Slave Driver: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5N0 959 703 G    HW: 3C0 959 794 D
   Component: J388__TSG-HL  007 1504 
   Serial number: 00000006335973      
   Coding: 000490

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 5N1-909-144.clb
   Part No SW: 5N1 909 144 M    HW: 5N1 909 148 G
   Component: J500__APA-BS KL.286 1002  
   Revision: 1AH03836    Serial number: 00113420041401
   Coding: 0000258
   Shop #: WSC 00000 028 00001
   VCID: 3C59DD257F59A4DE62-8068

No fault code found.

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Address 4C: Tire Pressure II
Cannot be reached

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Address 4F: Centr. Electr. II (J520)       Labels: 1K0-907-532.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 907 532     HW: 1K0 907 951 
   Component: EZE_2         H40 1623  
   Revision:   H40       Serial number: 091211F1002378
   Coding: 050B0500
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 6FC33A69BEAF0F4697-803A

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8R0 959 591 A    HW: 8R0 959 591 
   Component: J245EE20SKB13  H03 0220 

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8R0 959 591 A    HW: 8R0 959 591 
   Component: J394EE20SKB13  H03 0220 

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels: 3C0-959-70X-GEN4.clb
   Part No SW: 5N0 959 702 G    HW: 3C0 959 792 C
   Component: TUER-SG BT    002 0503  
   Revision: 14110009    Serial number: 0004049463
   Coding: 0015BE
   Shop #: WSC 47431 001 1048576
   ASAM Dataset: EV_TSGBPQ35BRFVW46X A04001
   ROD: EV_TSGBPQ35BRFVW46X.rod
   VCID: 3A55DB3DBD6D9AEE70-806E

   Slave Passenger: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5N0 959 704 G    HW: 3C0 959 795 D
   Component: J389__TSG-HR  007 1504 
   Serial number: 00000006334644      
   Coding: 000490

No fault code found.

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Address 53: Parking Brake        Labels: 3AA-907-801.clb
   Part No SW: 3AA 907 801 G    HW: 3AA 907 801 G
   Component: J540 EPB4  VW-64783 0009  
   Revision:   H19       Serial number: 00000000518406
   Coding: 0026156
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 354FC8015C7375969D-8060

No fault code found.

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Address 55: Headlight Range (J745)       Labels: 5M0-907-357-V3.clb
   Part No SW: 5M0 907 357 F    HW: 7L6 907 357 C
   Component: AFS-ECU       H04 0111  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: --------------
   Coding: 041200010B000400
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_HeadlRegulVWAFSPt 002016
   ROD: EV_HeadlRegulVWAFSPt_SE36.rod
   VCID: 3753C2098E7F87868F-8062

   Left_headlamp_power_output_stage: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 4H0 941 329     HW: 4H0 941 329   Labels: 3D0-941-329.CLB
   Component: LeiMo links  H02 0008 
   Coding: 140000

   Right_headlamp_power_output_stage: 
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 4H0 941 329     HW: 4H0 941 329   Labels: 3D0-941-329.CLB
   Component: LeiMo rechts  H02 0008 
   Coding: 140000

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio (J0506)       Labels: 1T0-035-680.clb
   Part No SW: 3C8 035 684 E    HW: 3C8 035 684 E
   Component: RNS-MID       H61 3680  
   Revision: AB001001    Serial number: VWZ6Z7L7348052
   Coding: 0400040204000086000C
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 2D7FE06174233D56E5-8078

No fault code found.

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Address 6C: Back-up Cam.        Labels: 5N0-907-441.clb
   Part No SW: 5N0 907 441 A    HW: 5N0 907 441 A
   Component: J772__Rearview      0030  
   Revision: 00H09000    Serial number: 525PA8-J1X2224
   Coding: 0100010
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 08192
   VCID: 2D7FE061B4233D56E5-8078

No fault code found.

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Address 77: Telephone (J412)       Labels: 7P6-035-730.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 035 730 E    HW: 5K0 035 730 E
   Component: TELEFON       H09 2902  
   Revision: 1B001001    Serial number: 00007661462098
   Coding: 0A10040000010100
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_UHVNA A01719
   ROD: EV_UHVNA.rod
   VCID: 277312495EDF17061F-8072

No fault code found.

End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 02:49)--------------------------
 
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And before anyone asks, I asked my (very friendly) dealer to enable the mirror-fold-via-keyfob function, which he did, but the value in ...Byte 8 is still 9F. So it is possible with a NA Gen4 module, but YMMV.
It would have been cool if you had pulled an Adaptation Channel Map both before and after the dealer did this; then we'd know what did change. ;)

Not sure why 09 is showing a malfunction in the initial summary but not in the body of the scan. Just noticed it now, did not try to clear it.
That's just the Gateway's status list being out of synch with the module. You can usually re-synch it by clearing fault codes in the module itself (despite the fact that there aren't any).

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It would have been cool if you had pulled an Adaptation Channel Map both before and after the dealer did this; then we'd know what did change. ;)
-Uwe-

Yeah, I didn't know the dealer could even do it, never mind that they would do it for me simply because I casually mentioned it (they were restoring other coding changes that they had "removed" while fixing a door mirror dip issue). I have the Adaptation Map now (the "after" version), maybe some kind soul can generate a "before" version if he/she has a car that's "close enough".

I'm still confused, however, as to why when I set the ...byte 8 value to 9F I could make no additional changes ("value out of range"). Any thoughts?
 
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Any thoughts?
Nope, I'm not going to pretend to know that I understand what's going on with these parameter bytes. If someone else knows something, please post.

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