2016 VW Touareg V6 TDI - Injector issue?

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Hi, back after quite an absence (my old Audi A4 has been in storage following a failed annual inspection several years back), but now I have a VW Touareg to play with.

My daughter told me her 2016 3.0L V6 TDI Touareg (RHD in Australia) was occasionally making a strange irregular ‘ticking’ noise from the engine bay. I heard the noise and couldn’t pinpoint it with the stethoscope, but it sounded like coming from the driver’s upper right side of the engine (i.e., left if looking from the front). A mechanic friend suggested it might be injector related, so I searched the Ross-Tech forums and found some relevant tests to try. Went for a drive to warm the car up and the dashboard dial sat on 90deg C as normal and the fan kicked in. However, the VCDS was showing the Coolant temp only got to and stayed between 69-72deg C. Ambient was 25 C by the way. Kept driving around, but the VCDS reading stayed the same, so it looks like a separate issue could be temp sensor. Anyway, continued with the injector tests regardless, so hoping that someone can confirm if I’m going down the correct path or not. What I did was:

  • Tried to do the fuel pressure test, even though the temp didn’t get up to the 80 C mandated in the Ross-Tech video. The Specified value is 250,000 hPa, with the actual reading in the ball park at idle (out of practice with VCDS so forgot to save the data but took photos instead).
  • 1788403308719.jpg Injector 3 appeared to be the outlier.
  • Following the steps in the video I turned the engine off/ign on and the actual value showed 2,500 hPa (a rather strange value I thought). Stayed at this value as the temp rose to 77 C and as the engine started to cool the reading then started flashing back and forth between 2,500 and zero hPa.
  • 1788403308724.jpg 1788403507943.jpeg
So according to the video, this pressure drop may indicate a leaky injector, or is the test voided by the fact the coolant temp didn’t reach 80 C?

After reading a similar Touareg thread (https://forums.ross-tech.com/index.php?threads/54999/#post-456606) I’ll get the #3 injector looked at regardless, but just wondering if someone knows of any other VCDS tests I could run to confirm?

Here's the car's full scan as well.

Code:
Wednesday,02,September,2026,14:07:09:08150
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 11 arm64(arm64 CPU)
VCDS Version: 26.9.0.3 (arm64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4713.4
Data version: 20260828 DS378.0
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: WVGZZZ7PZFD020446   License Plate:


Chassis Type: 7P-VW52 (7P6)
Scan: 01 02 03 05 08 09 10 15 16 17 19 34 42 46 52 53 55 56 5F 62
          6C 6D 72

VIN: WVGZZZ7PZFD020446   Mileage: 182307km-113280miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
34-Level Control -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: Malfunction 0010
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
53-Parking Brake -- Status: OK 0000
55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
5F-Information Electr. -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
6C-Back-up Cam. -- Status: OK 0000
6D-Trunk Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
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Address 01: Engine (J623-CRCA)       Labels:. 059-907-309-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 7P1 907 401 A    HW: 4G0 907 401
   Component: 3.0TDI EDC17  H41 0001 
   Revision: 53H41---    CVN: 1E1F8D2F
   Coding: 292A4012232E01020000
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM30TDI0117P1907401A 001002
   ROD: EV_ECM30TDI0117P1907401A.rod
   VCID: 2E050ABA0096B81A45C-807A
   VINID: 9E65EAAAA1E0A9650008010418444BF93B

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0

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Address 02: Auto Trans (J217)       Labels: 0C8-927-7XX-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 0C8 927 755 M    HW: 0C8 927 755
   Component: AL1000 AISIN  130 2879 
   CVN: 72A07772
   Coding: 010100011C008400000000000000000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   ASAM Dataset: EV_TCMAL991031 003118
   ROD: EV_TCMAL991031_003.rod
   VCID: 3B2333EEC3E45DB2F22-806E

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels:* 7P0-907-379.clb
   Part No SW: 7P0 907 379 R    HW: 7P0 907 379 A
   Component: MK25A         H37 0521 
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 40095438563667 Dataset Number: 7P0012v____ 0001
   Coding: 5B6B13C34B262553DAF8C897D2D8A470F701
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   ASAM Dataset: EV_MK25AXT 010001
   ROD: EV_ESPMK25A01000.rod
   VCID: 4CC16032964AEA0A4B8-8018

No fault code found.

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Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. (J393)       Labels:. 8K0-907-064-05.clb
   Part No SW: 4H0 907 064 FM    HW: 4H0 907 064 EM
   Component: BCM2 2.0      H36 0560 
   Revision: 00002001   
   Coding: 01B60010000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: 79AFE9E689D8AFA2A0E-802C

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 7P6 959 754 AL    HW: 7P6 959 754 AL
   Component: FBSTOUAREGIDG  H08 0084
   Serial number: 0514000124725002   

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 4H0 905 852 B    HW: 4H0 905 852 B
   Component: J764 ELV MLB  H40 0046
   Serial number: 3215000034429007   

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels:| 7P6-907-040.clb
   Part No SW: 7P6 907 040 CD    HW: 7P6 907 040 CD
   Component: Klima 2 Zonen H23 1406 
   Coding: 3626200890
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirCondiFront 004001
   ROD: EV_AirCondiFront_VW52.rod
   VCID: 78A9ECE2B252B6AADF0-802C

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 4H0-907-063-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 4H0 907 063 DA    HW: 4H0 907 063 AA
   Component: BCM1 2.0      H20 0311 
   Revision: 22020001    Serial number: 00001040461001
   Coding: 26000014D0345D010029400300005D4C431D470827010241000000000040110000000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: 6A8DC6AAFC7E143A594-803E

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 7P0 955 120     HW: 7P0 955 120
   Component: WWS    150317  033 0021
   Serial number: 90243401150325155204
   Coding: 004DBD

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 7P0 955 559 E    HW: 7P0 955 559 E  Labels: 8K0-955-559.CLB
   Component: RLFS  H10 0020
   Serial number: 20531051           
   Coding: 025223

   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 7P6 941 431 AB    HW: 7P6 941 431 AB
   Component: E1 - LDS  H02 0040
   Serial number: 00000000000804150518

No fault code found.

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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446)       Labels:| 7P6-919-475.clb
   Part No SW: 7P6 919 475 D    HW: 7N0 919 475
   Component: PARKHILFE 8K  H06 0030 
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 28291508904827
   Coding: 308504
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   ASAM Dataset: EV_VW526ParkiAssis2 001013
   ROD: EV_VW526ParkiAssis2.rod
   VCID: 44D14812BE1A224A838-8010

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 7P0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 7P0 959 655 E    HW: 7P0 959 655 E
   Component: VW10Airbag03F H10 0043 
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 003NK0034BP3 Dataset Number: 7P6003V____ 1597
   Coding: 000000000000000000000000000000003346
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW526 002001
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW526_002_VW52.rod
   VCID: 43D34B0EBB142572BA2-8016

   Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side:
   Serial number: 3575LRB406134BKO20N5

   Crash sensor for side airbag: passenger side:
   Serial number: 3585LRB400O52TV0AH2W

   Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side rear:
   Serial number: 3517ARB405H39P8669K4

   Crash sensor for side airbag: passenger side rear:
   Serial number: 3527ARB405F39P86KH5A

   Crash sensor for front airbag: driver side:
   Serial number: 3557BRB40693627659PM

   Crash sensor for front airbag: passenger side:
   Serial number: 3567BRB406736276NOF1

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels:. 4H0-953-568.clb
   Part No SW: 4H0 953 568 K    HW: 7P6 953 507 AB
   Component: Lenks.Modul   H06 0005 
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 01374ODC000KG
   Coding: 000015
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: 3B2333EEC3645DB2F22-806E

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 7P6 959 542 A    HW: 7P6 959 542 A
   Component: E221__MFL-TAS  H05 0028
   Serial number: 0026607 TRW 20150215

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 7P6-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
   Part No SW: 7P6 920 883 B    HW: 7P6 920 883 B
   Component: Kombi         H13 0515 
   Revision: 13240302    Serial number: 658080415592037
   Coding: 332731003A00000800000C
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   ASAM Dataset: EV_KombiUDSRBVW526 001022
   ROD: EV_KombiUDSRBVW526_VW52.rod
   VCID: 3D273DF6DDF05382CC6-8068

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:* None
   Part No SW: 7P6 907 530 M    HW: 7P6 907 530 F
   Component: GW-CAN-L-MOST H13 6042 
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 00000001795369 Dataset Number: 7P6067v____ 0041
   Coding: 000D07AD00
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   GVL: FB4F40851D67000000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_GatewVW526UDS 001007
   ROD: EV_GatewUDS_VW52.rod
   VCID: 42DD4E0AA40E2C7AB14-8016

   Voltage stabilizer:
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 7PP 959 663 E    HW: 7PP 959 663 E
   Component: J532_DCDCStab  H17 0042
   Serial number: 15092001451021200181

1 Fault Found:
6656 - Control unit for battery monitoring
          U1050 00 [00001001] - No Communication
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 139
                    Mileage: 182302 km
                    Date: 2026.09.02
                    Time: 13:45:09

                    Voltage terminal 30: 12.1 V
                    Voltage terminal 15: 12.1 V
                    Control Module temperature: 37  C
                    System status: Terminal 15 on
                    IN ESP_standstill flag: standstill detected
                    Engine is running: OFF
                    IN ZAS_Te_X: On
                    Terminal 15 status via CAN: On
                    Terminal 15 status: On
                    Datenfeld: 0


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Address 34: Level Control (J197)       Labels:. 7P0-907-553.clb
   Part No SW: 7P0 907 553 AF    HW: 7P0 907 553 AF
   Component: PASM          H05 0750 
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 00000150980123
   Coding: 14210000
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   ASAM Dataset: EV_PASMConti 001005
   ROD: EV_PASMConti.rod
   VCID: 7BA3F3EE83649DB2B22-802E

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels:. 4H0-959-793.clb
   Part No SW: 4H0 959 793 AC    HW: 4H0 959 793 P
   Component: TSG FA        H02 0306 
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 0000144363060
   Coding: 011D0620D001451005080002
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: 7AADF6EA8CDEA4BAA94-802E

1 Fault Found:
00109 - Left Mirror Turn Signal Lamp (L131)
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101100
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 139
                    Mileage: 182307 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2026.09.02
                    Time: 13:55:12


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Address 46: Central Conv. (J393)       Labels:. 4H0-907-064-46.clb
   Part No SW: 4H0 907 064 FM    HW: 4H0 907 064 EM
   Component: BCM2 2.0      H36 0560 
   Revision: 00002001    Serial number: 0363822089   
   Coding: 011B162028B9108083200624010000000000000000000000000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: 79AFE9E689D8AFA2A0E-802C

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 7P6 951 171
   Component: DWA-Sensor  002 0204

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
   Component: LIN BACKUP HO  H05 1501

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels:. 4H0-959-792.clb
   Part No SW: 4H0 959 792 S    HW: 4H0 959 792 M
   Component: TSG BF        H02 0306 
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 0000144262364
   Coding: 011D0620D001451005080000
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: 48C95C2282B2062A6F0-801C

No fault code found.

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Address 53: Parking Brake (J540-)       Labels:| 7P0-907-801.clb
   Part No SW: 7P0 907 801 F    HW: 7P0 907 801 F
   Component: EPB           H51 1201 
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: C1532500035    Dataset Number:             A001
   Coding: 01040100
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ParkbA7 000006
   ROD: EV_ParkbA7.rod
   VCID: 363522DAF8C680DA0DC-8062

   Slave 3:

No fault code found.

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Address 55: Headlight Range (J745)       Labels:| 7P6-907-357.clb
   Part No SW: 7P6 907 357 C    HW: 7P6 907 357 B
   Component: AFS-ECU       H01 0091 
   Revision: --------    Serial number: -------------- Dataset Number: 7P0036v____ 0016
   Coding: 01A602000B000200
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   ASAM Dataset: EV_HeadlRegulAFSMQBMLB 001001
   ROD: EV_HeadlRegulAFSMQBMLB_VW52.rod
   VCID: 3FDB47FED7FC4192DEA-806A

   Left Headlamp Power Output Stage:
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8U0 941 329     HW: 8U0 941 329   Labels: 3D0-941-329.CLB
   Component: LeiMo links  H01 0005
   Coding: B00000

   Right Headlamp Power Output Stage:
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8U0 941 329     HW: 8U0 941 329   Labels: 3D0-941-329.CLB
   Component: LeiMo rechts  H01 0005
   Coding: B00000

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio (R)       Labels:. 4F0-035-0xx-56.clb
   Part No SW: 4G1 035 053 J    HW: 4G1 035 053
   Component: Radio U Basic H41 0133 
   Revision: AB001007    Serial number: 227D10F8558084
   Coding: 040005020100000003
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: 2615F29A28E6F05ABDC-8072

No fault code found.

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Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794)       Labels:. 4E0-035-6xx-5F.clb
   Part No SW: 7P6 035 764 E    HW: 7P6 035 764 A
   Component: H-BNT-RW      H40 0816 
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 445D%0F7504369
   Coding: 010A01050040C1EF01000B0E00000003F00001030000000000
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: 3B2333EEC3645DB2F22-806E

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 8R0 060 884 BN
   Component: ROW 2014  0605

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 7P6 919 603 J    HW: 7P6 919 603 J
   Component: DU8 SV Touch  H53 0046
   Serial number: VWZ8Z9RX700GMS     

   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 7P6 919 603 J    HW: 7P6 919 603 J
   Component: DU8 SV Touch  H53 0046
   Serial number: VWZ8Z9RX700GMS     

   Subsystem 4 - Part No: 8R0 060 961 F
   Component: CD-Database  5571

No fault code found.

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Address 62: Door, Rear Left (J388)       Labels:. 4H0-959-795.clb
   Part No SW: 4H0 959 795 P    HW: 4H0 959 795 J
   Component: TSG HL        H03 0306 
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 0000143365659
   Coding: 011804200001251005080000
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: 48C95C2282B2062A6F0-801C

No fault code found.

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Address 6C: Back-up Cam.        Labels: 4L0-910-441.clb
   Part No SW: 7P6 907 441 A    HW: 4H0 907 441
   Component: SG Rueckfahrkamera  0020 
   Revision: 00H08000    Serial number: 525 PA8JA30498
   Coding: 0020001
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: 372B2FDEF34C79D216A-8062

No fault code found.

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Address 6D: Trunk Elect. (----)       Labels:| 7N0-959-107.clb
   Part No SW: 7P6 959 107 C    HW: 7P6 959 107
   Component: HDSG-Modul    H10 0043 
   Revision: 22010001    Serial number: 086500721 Dataset Number: 7p0771v____ 0012
   Coding: 0533314002
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   ASAM Dataset: EV_HeckkTouar 202142
   ROD: EV_HeckkTouar.rod
   VCID: 3FDB47FED7FC4192DEA-806A

No fault code found.

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Address 72: Door, Rear Right (J389)       Labels:. 4H0-959-795.clb
   Part No SW: 4H0 959 795 P    HW: 4H0 959 795 J
   Component: TSG HR        H03 0306 
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 0000143365849
   Coding: 011804200001251005080000
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: 48C95C2282B2062A6F0-801C

No fault code found.

End----------(Elapsed Time: 01:53, VBatt start/end: 12.6V/12.5V)-----------
------------------------------2 Faults Found-------------------------------

Cheers,

Staffanski
 
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So according to the video, this pressure drop may indicate a leaky injector, or is the test voided by the fact the coolant temp didn’t reach 80 C?
If you're looking at this video:


That's not applicable to TDIs. A TDI isn't expected to build more pressure after hot shut-down.

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If you're looking at this video:


That's not applicable to TDIs. A TDI isn't expected to build more pressure after hot shut-down.

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Yes Uwe, that was the video I'd been looking at, so thanks for advising it's not applicable. I'll order a new injector anyway and swap out the #3, as it appears to be the one consistently with the highest deviation value, to see if that helps and if not I'll have a spare injector for the future.
 

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Hopefully not a dumb question (a newbie to diesels), but after a bit of reading and googling I found that 'injection time deviation' was a good indicator of injector health, but I can't find this available in the UDS Advanced Measuring Values options. Am I missing something, or is this too not applicable to the TDIs?
 

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so hoping that someone can confirm if I’m going down the correct path or not
You are not. There's nothing wrong with anything you've shown thus far, including injectors.
After squinting at your picture, I see the concerning value on the one injector.
Look closely for signs of black death.
 

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thanks @SaVAGeSoot and apologies for the poor res on the photo. A bit out of practice with the VCDS and forgot to save a report. I'll be ordering a new injector to replace the #3, but first off I think I need to sort the odd coolant temp issue, so my readings are at the correct temp (thermostat and fan are obviously getting the trigger to operate as the cars dashboard dial sits bang on 90degC, but the VCDS reading is showing the coolant temp is only 72C max). Have to work out if it's the sensor or the thermostat. The exhaust is not black and sooty, but if the engine is not getting up to full temp, then that can't be good.
 

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Calm your tits!
The cluster gauge is always a dummy, across many different models.... it's always rock solid on 90º so that drivers don't freak out.
I asked you about black death... did you answer me?
You're likely loading up the parts cannon by buying an injector. What testing have you done to condemn an injector? Do you just like burning money?
How have you confirmed that the thermostat and fan are being triggered? Under what conditions?
How have you confirmed that the engine isn't reaching operating temp?
 

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Calm your tits!
The cluster gauge is always a dummy, across many different models.... it's always rock solid on 90º so that drivers don't freak out.
I asked you about black death... did you answer me?
You're likely loading up the parts cannon by buying an injector. What testing have you done to condemn an injector? Do you just like burning money?
How have you confirmed that the thermostat and fan are being triggered? Under what conditions?
How have you confirmed that the engine isn't reaching operating temp?
Sorry, not sure what is "black death". I had assumed you meant black smokey exhaust, which is not present.
The only VCDS injector test I could see is the quantity deviation one which gave the consistently higher reading on #3 (ranging between -0.89 and -1.10mg...was that the value in the photo you mentioned was "concerning"?). I've read there's an 'injector time deviation' test on another Ross-Tech forum post, but this isn't showing up in my UDS options, so if there's any other tests I should run to check injector health, I'd be grateful to know - as mentioned, this is the first diesel I've had the pleasure to play with.
For the temp issue, that only came to my attention when I was driving the car to get it up to operating temp for the injector test. The VCDS live 'Coolant Temp' reading would reach between 69-72 C and stay there over a 10 minute drive in 25C ambient, including hills and 80kph. I'd read that normal operating temp is around 90-105C, so let me know if that's not the case. The fan is triggered at some point because I can see it stopped at cold idle and then spinning when checked at 72C idle. As for the thermostat, I am assuming it is open for the temp to level off at only 69-72C. I'll keep trying to find a test in the UDS options to observe the live thermostat status for the next test run.
Hope that helps. Thanks.
 

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VCDS saves every Auto-Scan in C:\Ross-Tech\VCDS\Scans :thumbs:
Thanks @PetrolDave. I have the full scans saving to that folder no problem, but when I try to save the individual test results, they don't appear there. I'm sure I'm just missing something, so I'll keep playing around.
 

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Sorry, not sure what is "black death". I had assumed you meant black smokey exhaust, which is not present.
Too bad you can't use a search engine or ask for clarification.
The only VCDS injector test
Not everything is done with VCDS. Faulty injectors are typically flushed out by doing injector return\flow tests as per FSM.
I'd read that normal operating temp is around 90-105C
Where did you read this? Are you talking about water temp, oil temp, or some other temp? Also, where is this reading being taken? All those details matter!

Lastly, do they not have paragraphs or line breaks down under? Do you find your continuous blocks of text easy to read?
 

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The VCDS live 'Coolant Temp' reading would reach between 69-72 C and stay there over a 10 minute drive in 25C ambient
Here's a log on did on my NaR '14 CNRB after replacing an ECT to confirm correct operation a few years back. The ambient temp was very similar to your example, so this should give you an idea of the expected behavior you should see on a properly working system.
 
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Note the No3 injector may not be the faulty one (assuming you have any faulty ones) as the ECU reduces the injection in response to too high a crank speed which may be caused by the previous cylinder in the firing order causing the problem. Personally I would not worry about this -0.94 mg/stroke deviation unless you have other problems such a rough idle or leaking injector seal. A dose of injector cleaner in the fuel is also worth trying if you dont use that regularly
 
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Went for a drive to warm the car up and the dashboard dial sat on 90deg C as normal and the fan kicked in. However, the VCDS was showing the Coolant temp only got to and stayed between 69-72deg C

I have seen this before. It led to 3 garages spending a fortune on repairs that did not fix the car !!

As already pointed out, do not rely on the Instrument Temp Gauge. Look at VCDS reading.

You do NEED to look at that Coolant Temp Sensor and confirm that it is accurate. It should read more than 72 *C when the engine is warm.

Went for a drive to warm the car up and the dashboard dial sat on 90deg C as normal and the fan kicked in.
Dont be fooled by that. Gearbox and HVAC can switch the fans on. Fans running are not always an indicator of af a properly warmed up engine.
 

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Too bad you can't use a search engine or ask for clarification.

Not everything is done with VCDS. Faulty injectors are typically flushed out by doing injector return\flow tests as per FSM.

Where did you read this? Are you talking about water temp, oil temp, or some other temp? Also, where is this reading being taken? All those details matter!

Lastly, do they not have paragraphs or line breaks down under? Do you find your continuous blocks of text easy to read?
Thanks @SaVAGeSoot. Aside from the narky comments, I really appreciate that video. I'd looked at several youtube videos this week, but that one is by far and away the most comprehensive and informative, especially actually showing what the 'mushrooming' looks like.
Cheers.
 

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Here's a log on did on my NaR '14 CNRB after replacing an ECT to confirm correct operation a few years back. The ambient temp was very similar to your example, so this should give you an idea of the expected behavior you should see on a properly working system.

Thanks for the graph. That will be really helpful as a baseline for me to check against. My daughter will be coming back around on the weekend, so I'll be able to have a bit more of a play with the car and I'll look into accessing this Log Viewer and do a comparison.
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Note the No3 injector may not be the faulty one (assuming you have any faulty ones) as the ECU reduces the injection in response to too high a crank speed which may be caused by the previous cylinder in the firing order causing the problem. Personally I would not worry about this -0.94 mg/stroke deviation unless you have other problems such a rough idle or leaking injector seal. A dose of injector cleaner in the fuel is also worth trying if you dont use that regularly
Thanks @RGH0. It's my daughter's car, and it runs quite smoothly. When I asked her if she, or the mechanic who services it, used any injector cleaner she didn't know, so it's a good guess that the answer is 'no'. I've bought some today, so I'll add it to the tank and run it through over the weekend. Thanks for the tip.
Cheers.
 

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I have seen this before. It led to 3 garages spending a fortune on repairs that did not fix the car !!

As already pointed out, do not rely on the Instrument Temp Gauge. Look at VCDS reading.

You do NEED to look at that Coolant Temp Sensor and confirm that it is accurate. It should read more than 72 *C when the engine is warm.


Dont be fooled by that. Gearbox and HVAC can switch the fans on. Fans running are not always an indicator of af a properly warmed up engine.

Thanks @Dr Sheldon. Yes, I'd mistakenly thought the car was fine as the coolant gauge always showed bang on 90C. I only picked up the lower actual temperature when trying to warm the car up for the injector tests. Explains the difference to the true VCDS readings.

I was driving it with the heater and aircon off, but now I've seen that graph setup from @SaVAGeSoot, I'll now try to chart the actual realtime activation of the fan to see when it is running.
Cheers.
 

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Look in the Logs sub-folder.

-Uwe-

Ahh, found it! I'd been looking in the wrong folder. I'll be sure to add those in the future.
Thanks Uwe.
 
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