No Start when Pressing the Kessy button but it will turn over from time to time with hot wire.

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I have a 2014 Jetta that i am working on for my nephew. I have replaced the Immobilizer in the Instrument cluster becasue vw said it was bad. They were unable to communicate with the car to program a new key. I used a Autel IM608II Pro to reprogram the Immo from the doner car and have now successfully programed 4 keys to the vehicle. When i press the Start/Stop button all i see is a yellow steering wheel on the dash.
I then replaced the IMMO ESCL on the car. I also programmed it to match the vin and the CS code and Power code from the other unit... Still no Luck...
I have jumpered pen 50 and the car turns over and trys to catch tbe the IMMO stops the car from running.

I have scanned the car with the IM608 and the VCDS..

I hope someone can help me figure out where to go...

Any help would be appreciated .

Attached is the log from the scan.

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Wednesday,29,April,2026,18:11:48:25224
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 11 x64
VCDS Version: 26.3.0.0 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4701.5
Data version: 20260320 DS375.1
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: 3VWLL7AJ7EM410445   License Plate: 
Mileage: 36590km-22735mi   Repair Order: Troy 2014 VW Jetta



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Chassis Type: AJ-VW36 (6N0)
Scan: 01 02 03 05 08 09 15 17 19 25 2B 2E 37 44 47 56 75 77

VIN: 3VWLL7AJ7EM410445   Mileage: 36590km-22735miles

01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
15-Airbags -- Status: Malfunction 0010
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
2B-Steer. Col. Lock -- Status: Malfunction 0010
2E-Media Player 3 -- Status: OK 0000
37-Navigation -- Status: Malfunction 0010
44-Steering Assist -- Status: Malfunction 0010
47-Sound System -- Status: Malfunction 0010
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
75-Telematics -- Status: OK 0000
77-Telephone -- Status: Malfunction 0010
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Address 01: Engine (CJA)       Labels: 03L-906-022-CBE.clb
   Part No SW: 03L 997 030 M    HW: 03L 907 309 AA
   Component: R4 2.0l TDI G000AG  9983  
   Revision: 12H16---    Serial number:               
   Coding: 0350078
   Shop #: WSC 00001 067 57207
   VCID: 382ECA328E55A34A373-806C
   VINID: 0E69DC70745A1D57440401041416C4D0ED

2 Faults Found:
005784 - Please Check DTC Memory of Steering Wheel Electronics 
               P1698 - 000 - 
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 36595 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2026.04.19.
                    Time: 01:37:26

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 0 /min
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                    Load: 0.0 %
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                    (no units): 255.0
                    (no units): 255.0
                    Bin. Bits: 11000001

005488 - Engine Start Blocked by Immobilizer 
               P1570 - 000 - 
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 36595 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2026.04.23.
                    Time: 03:59:54

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 1104 /min
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                    Voltage: 10.49 V
                    Pressure: 992.2 mbar
                    Pressure: 955.9 mbar
                    Temperature: 21.6 C
                    Temperature: 27.9 C

Readiness: 0 0 0 1 1 

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Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 02E-927-770.clb
   Part No SW: 02E 300 062 B    HW: 02E 927 770 AL
   Component: GSG DSG AG6     521 9430  
   Revision: 05652104    Serial number: 00001310120200
   Coding: 0000020
   Shop #: WSC 44551 111 44551
   VCID: 14765E82F27DA72A7BB-8040

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels:. 1K0-907-379-EC1-V4.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 BS    HW: 1K0 907 379 BS
   Component: ESP MK60EC1   H46 0166  
   Revision: 00H46001    
   Coding: A14B400C492300FA850F02E8921E0042A1100012
   Shop #: WSC 37522 001 104856
   VCID: 04566EC28E1D37AAEBB-8050

1 Fault Found:
01486 - System Function Test Activated 
            000 - -
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 114
                    Mileage: 36595 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2026.04.19.
                    Time: 01:37:28

             Freeze Frame:
                    Count: 3
                    Count: 14
                    Count: 4096
                    Count: 320
                    Count: 44800
                    Count: 0
                    Count: 65280
                    Count: 0


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Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. (J518)       Labels:| 5K0-959-434.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 959 434 B    HW: 5K0 959 434 
   Component: VWKESSYPQ35GP 086 1101  
   Revision: 00086000    Serial number: 0194362144 Dataset Number: 5K0116v____ 1609
   Coding: 130C0C
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_KESSYPQ35G A02013
   ROD: EV_KESSYPQ35G_A02_VW32.rod
   VCID: 3436FE029EBD472A1BB-8060

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 5C0-820-047.clb
   Part No SW: 5C0 820 047 BN    HW: 5C0 820 047 BN
   Component: J301  Klimaanlage   0204  
   Revision: 2001001S    Serial number: 00000001968561
   Shop #: WSC 42205 000 1048576
   VCID: 6D802B66B197D6E2145-8038

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 6R0-937-08x-09.clb
   Part No SW: 5C0 937 087 L    HW: 5C0 937 087 A
   Component: BCM25 JLB H3  H34 0425  
   Revision: B2034001    Serial number: 08013013140185
   Coding: 7B994B9A08230F0008382000240884C50082502E6000000030A050002000
   Shop #: WSC 27329 002 1048576
   VCID: 3632C40A8841553A25F-8062

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 801 AN    HW: 6R0 959 801 AN  Labels: 6R0-959-801.CLB
   Component: J386__TSG_FT  006 5461 
   Serial number: 14102585131219132417
   Coding: 820000

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 802 AS    HW: 6R0 959 802 AS  Labels: 6R0-959-802.CLB
   Component: J387__TSG_BT  006 5461 
   Serial number: 14102584131218145931
   Coding: 820000

   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 591     HW: 5K0 959 591 
   Component: J245 PS41.022  H10 0007 
   Serial number:     WRH000AIV9      
   Coding: 180000

   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 811 M    HW: 6R0 959 811 M
   Component: J388__TSG_HL  006 5460 
   Serial number: 14102587131211175622
   Coding: 800000

   Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 812 M    HW: 6R0 959 812 M
   Component: J389__TSG_HR  006 5460 
   Serial number: 14102586131218223312
   Coding: 800000

3 Faults Found:
00446 - Function Limitation due to Under-Voltage 
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100010
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 4
                    Reset counter: 154
                    Mileage: 36595 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2026.04.23.
                    Time: 03:58:26

03444 - Ignition Starter Switch 
            008 - Implausible Signal
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101000
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 6
                    Reset counter: 114
                    Mileage: 36595 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2026.04.19.
                    Time: 01:37:32

01326 - Control Module for Multi-Function Steering Wheel (J453) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 114
                    Mileage: 36595 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2026.04.19.
                    Time: 01:37:34


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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 5K0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 5C0 959 655 AD    HW: 5C0 959 655 AD
   Component: AirbagVW10    102 0912  
   Serial number: 003MVD02X2P2   Dataset Number: 160003v____ 0219
   Coding: 00004138
   Shop #: WSC 00066 790 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10SMEVW360 001026
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW10SMEVW360.rod
   VCID: 74B63E02DE3D072ADBB-8020

   Seat occupant detection: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5C6 959 339 B    HW: 5C6 959 339 B
   Component: BF-Gewichtss.  H10 0046 
   Serial number: 6940000Y1300010XMD0/
   Coding: 303036

   Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side: 
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 354     HW: 5K0 959 354 
   Component: S.Sens.Fahr.V  H02 ---- 
   Serial number: 3572MSME3E514C40ZZZ-

   Crash sensor for side airbag: passenger side: 
   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 354     HW: 5K0 959 354 
   Component: S.Sens.Beif.V  H02 ---- 
   Serial number: 3582MSME7A2A5E40ZZZ3

   Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side rear: 
   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 351 A    HW: 5K0 959 351 A
   Component: S.Sens.Fahr.H  H02 ---- 
   Serial number: 3516KSME7A4B5229ZZZ$

   Crash sensor for side airbag: passenger side rear: 
   Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 351 A    HW: 5K0 959 351 A
   Component: S.Sens.Beif.H  H02 ---- 
   Serial number: 3526KSME3464561DZZZW

   Crash sensor for front airbag: driver side: 
   Subsystem 6 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 659 A    HW: 5K0 959 659 A
   Component: F.Sens.Fahr  H02 ---- 
   Serial number: 3556LSME60492E2AZZZ+

   Crash sensor for front airbag: passenger side: 
   Subsystem 7 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 659 A    HW: 5K0 959 659 A
   Component: F.Sens.Beif  H02 ---- 
   Serial number: 3566LSME3E4C2E2AZZZD

1 Fault Found:
9437211 - Igniter for Driver's Airbag 
          B1000 1B [10001001] - Resistance Too High
          MIL ON - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Mileage: 36595 km
                    Date: 2026.04.29.
                    Time: 02:19:32


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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
   Part No SW: 5C6 920 953 A    HW: 5C6 920 953 A
   Component: KOMBI         H04 0809  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 270A01
   Shop #: WSC 99999 999 2097151
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04723
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_004_VW32.rod
   VCID: 2B04E57E438318D24A1-807E

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 6N0-909-901-6R.clb
   Part No SW: 6N0 909 901     HW: 5C0 937 087 A
   Component: GW-K-CAN TP20 H34 0425  
   Revision: B2034001    
   Coding: 102200
   Shop #: WSC 27329 002 1048576
   VCID: 70BE3212AAA53B0A3F3-8024

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234 
   Component: IMMO          H04 0809  
   Serial number:               
   Coding: 000007
   Shop #: WSC 99999 999 2097151
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03710
   ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_VW32.rod
   VCID: 6A8A207A8CF9C1DA717-803E

No fault code found.

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Address 2B: Steer. Col. Lock (J764)       Labels:* 5K0-905-861.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 905 861 C    HW: 5K0 905 861 C
   Component: ELV-PQ35      H21 0240  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 13000278605004
   Coding: 4900000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 00066 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ELVMarquMPVW36X A01001
   ROD: EV_ELVMarquMPVW36X_VW32.rod
   VCID: 303EF2126AA57B0A7F3-8064

1 Fault Found:
1049090 - Control Module Blocked 
          B2017 00 [00001001] - -
          [ECU blocked]
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 114
                    Mileage: 36595 km
                    Date: 2026.04.19.
                    Time: 01:51:06

                    ELV State: 4B
                    Information Clamps: 40 00
                    CoCo State: 80 01
                    WFS State: 61 1A
                    Vehicle speed: 0.00 km/h
                    Voltage: 6A


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Address 2E: Media Player 3
Cannot be reached

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Address 37: Navigation (J794)       Labels:| 1K0-035-27x-37.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 035 274 K    HW: 1K0 035 274 K
   Component: RNS315-NAR    H76 0410  
   Serial number: VWZAZ2N0649639
   Coding: 040900610100060000008000
   Shop #: WSC 01383 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_RNS315NARV2UDS 001705
   ROD: EV_RNS315NARV2UDS.rod
   VCID: 2C06E662468D1FEA43B-8078

   Data carrier: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 3AA 919 866 B
   Component: NAR_V5N  0046 

1 Fault Found:
1048669 - Tuner for Satellite Radio 
          B11CF 53 [00001001] - Deactivated
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Priority: 7
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 114
                    Mileage: 36595 km
                    Date: 2026.04.19.
                    Time: 01:37:36


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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1K0-909-14x-GEN3.clb
   Part No: 1K0 909 144 R
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 70     3501  
   Revision: 00H22000    
   Shop #: WSC 02069 000 90108
   VCID: 3928CF36B55FBA42C8D-806C

1 Fault Found:
03803 - Steering Angle Sensor for Steering Aid 
            000 - - - MIL ON
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 11100000
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                    Battery Volts: 9.3 V
                        PD
                    Temperature: 26.0 C
                    Count: 2
                    Steering Angle: 0.00 
                    Count: 1
                        SteerAng n.Init


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Address 47: Sound System (R12)       Labels: 5K0-035-456.clb
   Part No SW: 5C6 035 456 A    HW: 5C6 035 456 A
   Component: KonzernAmp10K H08 6815  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: EAA098A0102499 Dataset Number: 560050v____ 1607
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AudioVerst10KanalSTT3 S01001
   ROD: EV_AudioVerst10KanalSTT3_VW32.rod
   VCID: 2612144A586125BA95F-8072

1 Fault Found:
9463315 - Rear Left Treble Speaker 
          B1066 13 [00001001] - Open Circuit
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 114
                    Mileage: 36595 km
                    Date: 2026.04.19.
                    Time: 01:37:38


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Address 75: Telematics (J949)       Labels:| 12E-035-284.clb
   Part No SW: 561 035 285     HW: 561 035 285 
   Component: OCULowUSA     014 0086  
   Serial number: 000003554140510 Dataset Number: V03935196FH 0010
   Coding: 02630102C2423A007F1606000000
   Shop #: WSC 01383 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_OCULow 001010
   ROD: EV_OCULow_001_VW12.rod
   VCID: 53F49D9E3B736012221-8006

1 Fault Found:
2103041 - Control Module 
          B1788 F0 [00001001] - Start Prohibition Deactivated
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Priority: 8
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 114
                    Mileage: 36595 km
                    Date: 2026.04.29.
                    Time: 02:22:16


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Address 77: Telephone (J412)       Labels:| 5N0-035-729.clb
   Part No SW: 5N0 035 729 A    HW: 5N0 035 729 A
   Component: TELEFON       H05 0592  
   Revision: 1B001001    Serial number: 00007665454689 Dataset Number: 5N0035729A  0001
   Coding: 0A100300A0010110
   Shop #: WSC 01383 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_UHVUMI 001007
   ROD: EV_UHVUMI.rod
   VCID: 2E02EC6A70916DFA6DF-807A

1 Fault Found:
13636608 - Control Module Incorrectly Coded 
          U1014 00 [00001001] - -
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 114
                    Mileage: 36595 km
                    Date: 2026.04.29.
                    Time: 02:19:33


End----(Elapsed Time: 02:03, VBatt start/end: 11.6V/11.6V. VIgn 11.5V)-----
------------------------------13 Faults Found------------------------------

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look like you'll need the immobilizer aligned between ecu, cluster and electric steering column lock. it's not something vcds can do in this car.
 
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Clearly immo is fucked in this vehicle. Those third party tools do not work well with anything VAG. Asian and domestic vehicles yes but VAG is just asking for trouble. Clearly immo is not properly matched. I would say I am able to assist but given the fact that this has been fucked up and data was manually manipulated god only knows what the issue is. My suggestion would be to unfuck whatever was fucked with and restore all data to original state then use ODIS to match it all together. Less mess and less headache.
 
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The worst part is that most likely the gateway is the issue from the beginning and none of this shit was needed.
 
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When i took the vehilce to VW and they connected their ODIS to it, they informed me that they could not scan the vehicle. They said that there were issues with the vehicles Immo Communication. The dash only half worked at that point (The turn signal on the dash would not light and the speaker sound on the back was none existant.)

Can you point me in a direction to go...?
 
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look like you'll need the immobilizer aligned between ecu, cluster and electric steering column lock. it's not something vcds can do in this car.
What tool could do it? I have an Autel IM608 II Pro

This is the scan from it Can some tell me how to unlock or fix this issue.

Thank you.




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Unfuck the car by writing the original data back into the vehicle as it was prior to dicking around with it. Then provide a VCDS scan.
 
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So whos lying here because the last scan I see at a dealership was on 02.25.2026 log clearly shows they can talk to every module. So whats the deal? either they fed someone a load of bullshit or we are getting a fairytale.

Many modules had faults. Including gateway. Which as I mentioned in numerous other such situations/threads, the sad part is that most likely this vehicle only needed a gateway module.

Someone explain to me how someone comes to the conclusion that a cluster is bad based on these faults in the gateway:


DTC memory entry
Number:VAG01312: Powertrain data bus
Error type 1:Faulty
Error type 2:Intermittent
Standard ambient conditions
DTC memory entry
Number:VAG01314: Engine/Motor Control Module
Error type 1:No signal/communication
Error type 2:Intermittent
Standard ambient conditions
DTC memory entry
Number:VAG01315: Transmission Control Module (TCM)
Error type 1:No signal/communication
Error type 2:Intermittent
Standard ambient conditions
DTC memory entry
Number:VAG01316: ABS Control Module
Error type 1:No signal/communication
Error type 2:Intermittent
Standard ambient conditions
DTC memory entry
Number:VAG01317: Instrument Cluster Control Module
Error type 1:No signal/communication
Error type 2:Intermittent
Standard ambient conditions
DTC memory entry
Number:VAG00474: Anti-Theft Engine Disable Control Module
Error type 1:No signal/communication
Error type 2:Intermittent
 
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Someone explain to me how someone comes to the conclusion that a cluster is bad based on these faults in the ga
The scan is from My Autel Tool.

It to me sounds like you think the Gateway is bad and needs replaced. is that correct?

That is something that i have not replaced yet.
 
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Gateway replacement is BCM replacement in this car and you'd need VW/online for that as well to learn the remote keys on a kessy car. That's not a VCDS job.
I agree with Ziddy that the immo is very unlikely to be the culprit. Either gateway is bad or something in the powertrain CAN network is not happy and pulling it down.
 
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The scan is from My Autel Tool.

It to me sounds like you think the Gateway is bad and needs replaced. is that correct?

That is something that i have not replaced yet.
I honestly think that was your issue from the beginning.
 
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So Do i need to replace the BCM?
Also would the mileage not matching from the Instrument Cluster to the ECM cause a starting Issue?
 
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So Do i need to replace the BCM?
Also would the mileage not matching from the Instrument Cluster to the ECM cause a starting Issue?
Mileage mismatch will not cause it not to start. I would look at bcm/gateway module and inspect wiring. However given the fact that data has been manipulated first the foremost vehicle should be returned into its original state prior to doing anything further.
 
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It as close to unmanipulated as I can get. I will look at replacing th bcm. And see if that helps with the issue.
 
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I replaced the bcm and it still has the same issue. I even went as far as replacing the ECU... No such luck
 
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Why wouldnt we try a cheap gateway vs a bcm? Also note if the vehicle is not back in its original state prior to all this we can only guess what the issue is.
 
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Part No SW: 6N0 909 901 HW: 5C0 937 087 A

Well, in this case, the gateway is internal in the BCM
 
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2014 jetta I highly doubt it.
 
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