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So, i couldn't resist. after fixing 2 New Beetles using my VCDS, i had to fix another one. Am addicted.:D

I wasn't looking for another NB, was looking to get a Audi or VW passat/jetta. but then this NB showed up in my search results. (That is a VW/audi newer then year 2000, under 200,000km and under $2000.)

found this: 2002 VW NB 2.0L 5-speed. sunroof, foglights, heated cloth seats, few small scratches in the paint, they had 3M gaurd put on the hood, bumpers, fenders. 183000kms for $1800.

phone the guy and the story goes like this, they had the car since 2007, had a few issues with it last year, the airbag light started blinking on for a while then goes out, dealer said don't worry about it they check and everythings is working fine. So, that worried him a bit. Last month , the wife went shopping and after the car wouldn't start. They ended up getting it towed home. the car when boosted would run for 5 secs then shut off. So he would get up his driveway a bit, then have to boost it again until he got it parked in the garage. they replaced the battery, same issue, start and shut off. replaced the alternator, same issue starts then stops. So it sat in the garage for for a month. they are selling the house and wanted it gone.

"Well,it sounds serious, would you take $1400 cash? i can be there tomorrow morning!" :DThe car is in my drive way.

Now the fun starts.

i did a auto-scan at the guys house, we had to hook up booster cables to his other car, the battery was dead from his kids playing in the garage and leaving the car doors open. i had to know what the auto scan said......:p


Code:
Saturday,06,February,2016,13:35:52:49733
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 15.7.3.0 (x64)
Data version: 20151216
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: 3VWCB21C02M434363   License Plate: 


Chassis Type: 1C (1C - VW New Beetle (1998 > 2010))

Scan: 01 02 03 08 15 17 19 22 25 26 29 35 37 39 46 54 56 65 75

 

VIN: 3VWCB21C02M434363   Mileage: 183360km-113934miles

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Address 01: Engine        Labels: 06A-906-032-AZG.clb

   Part No: 06A 906 032 GE

   Component: 2.0l R4/2V      G   4075  

   Coding: 00001

   Shop #: WSC 91518  

   VCID: 67DDE6B605AF9106D0-5140

   3VWCB21C02M434363     VWZ5Z0ZD051284



4 Faults Found:

16804 - Catalyst System; Bank 1 

            P0420 - 35-10 - Efficiency Below Threshold - Intermittent

17704 - Error in Mapped Cooling System (check Temp-Sensor and Thermostat) 

            P1296 - 35-10 -  - Intermittent

17978 - Engine Start Blocked by Immobilizer 

            P1570 - 35-10 -  - Intermittent

16705 - Engine Speed Sensor (G28) 

            P0321 - 35-10 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent

Readiness: 0000 0000



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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 1C0-907-37x-ABS.lbl

   Part No: 1C0 907 379 J

   Component: ABS FRONT MK60      0103  

   Coding: 0004097

   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000

   VCID: 316948EEABEB1FB6CE-5140



1 Fault Found:

00668 - Supply Voltage Terminal 30 

            008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent



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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 6Q0-909-605-VW5.lbl

   Part No: 1C0 909 605 A

   Component: 25 AIRBAG VW51 0E   0004  

   Coding: 12853

   Shop #: WSC 00066  

   VCID: 224BB7A2AE0DB42E47-4B00



1 Fault Found:

01218 - Side Airbag Igniter; Passenger Side (N200) 

            32-10 - Resistance Too High - Intermittent



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Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 1C0-920-x4x.lbl

   Part No: 1C0 920 851 CX

   Component: KOMBI+WEGFAHRS. M73 V02  

   Coding: 03332

   Shop #: WSC 91518  

   VCID: 78FFB5CA58110EFE49-4B00

   3VWCB21C02M434363     VWZ5Z0ZD051284



1 Fault Found:

01039 - Coolant Temperature Sensor (G2) 

            30-10 - Open or Short to Plus - Intermittent



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Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels: 6N0-909-901-19.lbl

   Part No: 6N0 909 901 

   Component: Gateway K<->CAN    V022  

   Coding: 00006

   Shop #: WSC 91518  

   VCID: 70EF8DEA306156BE81-4B00



No fault code found.



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Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels: 1C0-959-799.lbl

   Part No: 1C0 959 799 G

   Component: 2K Komfortgerát HLO 0004  

   Coding: 00064

   Shop #: WSC 00066  

   VCID: 3B756AC629A7E5E664-4AE8



   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1C2959802A

   Component: 2K Tõrsteuer.FS KLO 0004  



   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1C2959801A

   Component: 2K Tõrsteuer.BF KLO 0002  



8 Faults Found:

01330 - Central Control Module for Central Convenience (J393) 

            52-10 - Supply Voltage Too High - Intermittent

00928 - Locking Module for Central Locking; Front Driver Side (F220) 

            54-10 - Incorrectly Equipped - Intermittent

00929 - Locking Module for Central Locking; Front Passenger Side (F221) 

            54-10 - Incorrectly Equipped - Intermittent

00953 - Interior Light Time limit 

            25-10 - Unknown Switch Condition - Intermittent

01044 - Control Module Incorrectly Coded 

            35-00 -  - 

01331 - Door Control Module; Driver Side (J386) 

            52-10 - Supply Voltage Too High - Intermittent

01332 - Door Control Module; Passenger Side (J387) 

            53-10 - Supply Voltage Too Low - Intermittent

01332 - Door Control Module; Passenger Side (J387) 

            52-10 - Supply Voltage Too High - Intermittent



End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 04:19)--------------------------

WOW... do i have a mess here!:facepalm:

but i have a smile all the way home:D , all codes were "Intermittent"

Got home, unloaded the car. Installed a charge battery i had in my shed.

hooked up VCDS cleared all the codes.

turned ignition off for 30 sec, turn key to "on" , started VCDS, did another auto scan before running engine.

Code:
Saturday,06,February,2016,18:22:23:49733
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 15.7.3.0 (x64)
Data version: 20151216
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: 3VWCB21C02M434363   License Plate: 


Chassis Type: 1C (1C - VW New Beetle (1998 > 2010))

Scan: 01 02 03 08 15 17 19 22 25 26 29 35 37 39 46 54 56 65 75

 

VIN: 3VWCB21C02M434363   Mileage: 183360km-113934miles

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Address 01: Engine        Labels: 06A-906-032-AZG.clb

   Part No: 06A 906 032 GE

   Component: 2.0l R4/2V      G   4075  

   Coding: 00001

   Shop #: WSC 91518  

   VCID: 67DDE6B605AF9106D0-5140

   3VWCB21C02M434363     VWZ5Z0ZD051284



No fault code found.

Readiness: 0110 1101



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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 1C0-907-37x-ABS.lbl

   Part No: 1C0 907 379 J

   Component: ABS FRONT MK60      0103  

   Coding: 0004097

   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000

   VCID: 316948EEABEB1FB6CE-5140



No fault code found.



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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 6Q0-909-605-VW5.lbl

   Part No: 1C0 909 605 A

   Component: 25 AIRBAG VW51 0E   0004  

   Coding: 12853

   Shop #: WSC 00066  

   VCID: 224BB7A2AE0DB42E47-4B00



No fault code found.



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Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 1C0-920-x4x.lbl

   Part No: 1C0 920 851 CX

   Component: KOMBI+WEGFAHRS. M73 V02  

   Coding: 03332

   Shop #: WSC 91518  

   VCID: 78FFB5CA58110EFE49-4AE8

   3VWCB21C02M434363     VWZ5Z0ZD051284



No fault code found.



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Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels: 6N0-909-901-19.lbl

   Part No: 6N0 909 901 

   Component: Gateway K<->CAN    V022  

   Coding: 00006

   Shop #: WSC 91518  

   VCID: 70EF8DEA306156BE81-4AE8



No fault code found.



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Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels: 1C0-959-799.lbl

   Part No: 1C0 959 799 G

   Component: 2K Komfortgerát HLO 0004  

   Coding: 00064

   Shop #: WSC 00066  

   VCID: 3B756AC629A7E5E664-4B00



   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1C2959802A

   Component: 2K Tõrsteuer.FS KLO 0004  



   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1C2959801A

   Component: 2K Tõrsteuer.BF KLO 0002  



No fault code found.



End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 04:37)--------------------------

:cool: :thumbs:

started car, stayed running, no lights flashing at me!!! is this a case of "if its to good to be true....?" my thoughts are they may have had a issue with the battery or alternator, but they never cleared the codes after replacing with new parts. thus still having the same issues. any other thoughts?

i looked at the MVB for coolant temp, it was registering a temp. I didn't let the car warm up fully, encase maybe the car is out of coolant.

Before you say anything.....YES.... the radio is not working, i haven't gone through the fuses yet. will do a good looking over tomorrow. check fluid, fuses, brakes, looks like some goo on the fuse box above the battery. have to investigate to see if it has been overheating.


thanks for reading. if any issues surface i will update.
 
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Check the back of cluster for coolant or the car for any other water ingress causing corrosion.

Keep an eye on G28 and check it out visual + with meter.
 
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So, i couldn't resist. after fixing 2 New Beetles using my VCDS, i had to fix another one. Am addicted.:D

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No surprise the front valance is smiling.............

Buy in satin black to avoid paint or the one without fogs to delete them on the cheap.
 
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I knew it. to good to be true. checked fluids today. coolant reserve was low. topped it up.

started car. let it run for 5 mins. everything was good.

lets check the lights out..turned on headlights... bing bing ...flash flash...:banghead:

short in the lighting system, i noticed headlight on passenger side is out.(fishy after just putting in coolant and a bit of it spilled) investigation following.

RTFB. WD from switch to headlight

faults in gateway and instrument now

also turn signals and emergrncy flashers not working. fuses are good. hear a click in the flasher switch relay when i use signal lights. i lightly push in flasher switch and hold just before it engages, the flashers work for a few seconds. bad switch.

Code:
Sunday,07,February,2016,13:14:44:49733
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 15.7.3.0 (x64)
Data version: 20151216
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: 3VWCB21C02M434363   License Plate: 


Chassis Type: 1C (1C - VW New Beetle (1998 > 2010))

Scan: 01 02 03 08 15 17 19 22 25 26 29 35 37 39 46 54 56 65 75

 

VIN: 3VWCB21C02M434363   Mileage: 183360km-113934miles

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Address 01: Engine        Labels: 06A-906-032-AZG.clb

   Part No: 06A 906 032 GE

   Component: 2.0l R4/2V      G   4075  

   Coding: 00001

   Shop #: WSC 91518  

   VCID: 67DDE6B605AF9106D0-5140

   3VWCB21C02M434363     VWZ5Z0ZD051284



No fault code found.

Readiness: 0110 1101



-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 1C0-907-37x-ABS.lbl

   Part No: 1C0 907 379 J

   Component: ABS FRONT MK60      0103  

   Coding: 0004097

   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000

   VCID: 316948EEABEB1FB6CE-5140



No fault code found.



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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 6Q0-909-605-VW5.lbl

   Part No: 1C0 909 605 A

   Component: 25 AIRBAG VW51 0E   0004  

   Coding: 12853

   Shop #: WSC 00066  

   VCID: 224BB7A2AE0DB42E47-4B00



No fault code found.



-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 1C0-920-x4x.lbl

   Part No: 1C0 920 851 CX

   Component: KOMBI+WEGFAHRS. M73 V02  

   Coding: 03332

   Shop #: WSC 91518  

   VCID: 78FFB5CA58110EFE49-4B00

   3VWCB21C02M434363     VWZ5Z0ZD051284



1 Fault Found:

01314 - Engine Control Module 

            49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent



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Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels: 6N0-909-901-19.lbl

   Part No: 6N0 909 901 

   Component: Gateway K<->CAN    V022  

   Coding: 00006

   Shop #: WSC 91518  

   VCID: 70EF8DEA306156BE81-4B1A



1 Fault Found:

01314 - Engine Control Module 

            49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent



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Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels: 1C0-959-799.lbl

   Part No: 1C0 959 799 G

   Component: 2K Komfortgerát HLO 0004  

   Coding: 00064

   Shop #: WSC 00066  

   VCID: 3B756AC629A7E5E664-4B1A



   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1C2959802A

   Component: 2K Tõrsteuer.FS KLO 0004  



   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1C2959801A

   Component: 2K Tõrsteuer.BF KLO 0002  



No fault code found.



End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 04:18)--------------------------

i am going to replace head lamp and check wiring, replace any fuses and try try again.
 
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I try to avoid headaches but with my occupation its sometimes unavoidable but you sir go and find them lol

Good Luck with the car :)
 
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So....in the end... besides putting in a charged battery and clearing the fault codes...i topped up the coolant, replaced head lamp for the passenger side low beam. replaced flasher relay today now the turn signals and flashers work again. Replaced the 2 door speakers and the 2 rear speakers because 3 of them shit the bed.

This car is good to go. front brakes were new, rear is about 50%. timing belt and water pump were replace 40,000kms ago. :thumbs:
 
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