Any way to change the sensitivity for the Day/Night light sensor on a 2015 Q5?

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I'm looking for a way to change the sensitivity for how much light is needed to change the map display from daylight to night. When my headlights are in AUTO, the display changes when there is still a LOT of light - even just a heavy overcast.
 
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Please post an Auto-Scan so people can see how the vehicle is equipped and configured.

Doing is is by no means a guarantee that someone will be able to answer your question, but it does greatly increase the odds.

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While we are waiting on your Auto-Scan, Under [Car -> Vehicle Settings -> Automatic headlights] what is the setting set there, I think the default is early. I have it set to late on my Allroad, and even then it can come on a bit early.
 
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Here's the complete autoscan. I hope it helps provide some suggestions!

In response to DirtD1ver, the auto headlight setting is "Late". Is there a noticeable difference if I change it to "Early", and if so, which way does it change?

Thanks!


Code:
Wednesday,27,January,2016,07:59:10:08468
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x64
VCDS Version: 15.7.3.0 (x64)
Data version: 20151216
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: WA1LFAFP5FA121500   License Plate: 930-DLJ
Mileage: 20540km-12762mi   Repair Order: 



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Chassis Type: FP (8R0)
Scan: 01 02 03 05 08 09 15 16 17 19 36 3C 42 44 46 47 52 53 56 5F
          62 6C 6D 72

VIN: WA1LFAFP5FA121500   Mileage: 20540km-12762miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
36-Seat Mem. Drvr -- Status: OK 0000
3C-Lane Change -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
53-Parking Brake -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
5F-Information Electr. -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
6C-Back-up Cam. -- Status: OK 0000
6D-Trunk Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine (DET-CPMB)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 8R1 907 115 L    HW: 8K2 907 115 L
   Component: 2.0l R4/4V TF H09 0002  
   Revision: ECH09---    
   Coding: 6A2A0013242600062000
   Shop #: WSC 06208 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM20TFS0118R1907115L 001003
   ROD: EV_ECM20TFS0118R1907115L.rod
   VCID: 3E795BBDA156A1CE43-806A

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0000 0000

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Address 02: Auto Trans (J217)       Labels: 0BK-927-156.clb
   Part No SW: 8R0 927 158 AS    HW: 0BK 927 156 AL
   Component: 0BK 20TFSIUSA H19 1003  
   Revision: --H19---    
   Coding: 000001
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_TCMAL551211 002022
   ROD: EV_TCMAL551211_AU48.rod
   VCID: 0E19CB7DD176714EF3-805A

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels: Redir Fail!
   Part No SW: 8R0 907 379 AS    HW: 8R0 907 379 AS
   Component: ESP8 quattro  H09 0020  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: --------------
   Coding: 151D1803
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: 1123D001C8486EB6EE-8044

No fault code found.

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Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. (J393)       Labels: 8K0-907-064-05.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 907 064 KP    HW: 8K0 907 064 KP
   Component: BCM2 2.0      H15 0711  
   Revision: 00002001    
   Coding: 0D854040000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: 0815FD65BB122F7E39-805C

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8K0 905 852 E    HW: 8K0 905 852 E
   Component: J764 ELV MLB  H40 0046 

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels: Redir Fail!
   Part No SW: 8K1 820 043 AQ    HW: 8K1 820 043 AQ
   Component: KLIMA 3 ZONEN H04 0122  
   Revision: C1000000    Serial number: 01130320152653
   Coding: 6481208000
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: 77F78E99C6EC508640-8022

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels: 8K0-907-063.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 907 063 DH    HW: 8K0 907 063 DH
   Component: BCM1 1.0      H16 0103  
   Revision: 08016001    Serial number: 00001026266502
   Coding: 26000091863CAFE00000480300003D0D0F1C4608A2090221000008004000030100000034000000
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: 78F58DA5CBF25FFE49-802C

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8R1 955 119 A    HW: 8R1 955 119   Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: WWS416 150219  H12 0050 
   Coding: 01DD13

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8U0 955 559 C    HW: 8U0 955 559 B  Labels: 8U0-955-559.CLB
   Component: G397_RLFS  H06 0004 
   Coding: 02005C

   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 8K0 941 531 AS    HW: 8K0 941 531 AS
   Component: E1 - LDS  H03 0031 

   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 4G0 907 410 A    HW: 4H0 907 410 A
   Component: USHL4.2  H30 0030 

   Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: 4H0 907 658     HW: 4H0 907 658 
   Component: AQ_Hum_Sensor  H03 0003 

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels: 8K0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 959 655 R    HW: 8K0 959 655 R
   Component: AirbagVW-AU10 H51 0812  
   Serial number: 003NED13D8SK  
   Coding: 303635313832383132304A55304C38523053
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaECUVWAUDI010 003114
   ROD: EV_AirbaECUVWAUDI010_AU48.rod
   VCID: 4C9D0175E7EA035EDD-8018

   Seat occupied recognition: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8R0 959 339 A    HW: 8R0 959 339 A
   Component: BF-Gewichtss.  H02 0040 
   Serial number: 5810000R150000K3DL

   Crash sensor for side airbag; driver side: 
   Serial number: 6334MSME4F1B307FT

   Crash sensor for side airbag; front passenger side: 
   Serial number: 6344MSME4F4B525AU

   Crash sensor for side airbag; rear; driver side: 
   Serial number: 6352QSME204E077EP

   Crash sensor for side airbag; rear; passenger side: 
   Serial number: 6362QSME0953484CN

   Crash sensor for front airbag; driver side: 
   Serial number: 63732SME4B53185E7

   Crash sensor for front airbag; front passenger side: 
   Serial number: 63832SME4B53585A8

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels: 8K0-953-568.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 953 568 Q    HW: 8K0 953 568 Q
   Component: Lenks.Modul   H03 0003  
   Revision: C0062331    Serial number: 90862OCH000N6 
   Coding: 000017
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: 48953D65FB92EF7EF9-801C

   Component: E221 - MFL  H03 0004 

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels: 8R0-920-xxx-17.clb
   Part No SW: 8R0 920 981 N    HW: 8R0 920 981 N
   Component: KOMBIINSTR.   H35 0567  
   Revision: 00100000    Serial number: 036298C3G     
   Coding: 8BB622000301D705020000
   Shop #: WSC 45412 001 1048576
   VCID: 458B3451CC80F21602-8010

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels: 8T0-907-468.clb
   Part No SW: 8R0 907 468 P    HW: 8R0 907 468 D
   Component: GW-BEM 5CAN-M H11 0060  
   Revision: 1Z120030    Serial number: 3041Z153030ABC
   Coding: 80C303FF00
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: 4C9D0175EFEA035EDD-8018

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8R0 915 181 C    HW: 8R0 915 181 C
   Component: J367-BDMHella  H07 8043 

No fault code found.

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Address 36: Seat Mem. Drvr (J136)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 8R0 959 760 D    HW: 8R0 959 760 B
   Component: MEM-FS        H07 0077  
   Revision: AA000000    Serial number: 00000138781026
   Coding: 00581B00000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: 42812F4DDDAEC52E27-8016

No fault code found.

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Address 3C: Lane Change (J769)       Labels: 5Q0-907-566.clb
   Part No SW: 8T0 907 566 B    HW: 8T0 907 566 B
   Component: SWA Master    H05 0071  
   Serial number: 0362524262
   Coding: 010211
   Shop #: WSC 06334 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_LaneChangAssis 001020
   ROD: EV_LaneChangAssis_AU21.rod
   VCID: 3F8726B9A65CA8C648-806A

   Lane Change Assistant 2: 

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels: 8K0-959-793.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 959 793 R    HW: 8K0 959 793 P
   Component: TSG FA        H02 0510  
   Revision:             Serial number: 0000139793860 
   Coding: 011D13205E00440004
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: 4FA716791EFC3846B8-801A

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist (J500)       Labels: 8K0-909-144.clb
   Part No SW: 8R0 909 144 P    HW: 8R0 909 144 B
   Component: RCEPS         H43 0510  
   Revision: 00001000    Serial number: 0006489433
   Coding: 100000000000
   Shop #: WSC 45412 001 1048576
   ASAM Dataset: EV_RCEPSAU48X 008018
   ROD: EV_RCEPSAU48X.rod
   VCID: 458B3451C480F21602-8010

No fault code found.

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Address 46: Central Conv. (J393)       Labels: 8K0-907-064-46.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 907 064 KP    HW: 8K0 907 064 KP
   Component: BCM2 2.0      H15 0711  
   Revision: 00002001    Serial number: 0362756578    
   Coding: 0126023A20FA709584B0053200040000
   Shop #: WSC 06334 000 00000
   VCID: 0815FD65BB122F7E39-805C

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8K0 959 719 B    HW: 8K0 959 719 
   Component: GTO BF  H01 0080 

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
   Component: LIN BACKUP HO  H05 1501 

   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 7N0 959 591 B    HW: 7N0 959 591 B
   Component: J245EE04SKB03  H03 0090 

   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 7N0 959 591 B    HW: 7N0 959 591 B
   Component: J394EE04SKB03  H03 0090 

No fault code found.

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Address 47: Sound System (J525)       Labels: 8T0-035-223-BOM.clb
   Part No SW: 8T1 035 223 A    HW: 8T1 035 223 A
   Component: DSP Prem      H05 0030  
   Revision: 00005001    Serial number: 94813041813006
   VCID: 2D5B6CF174302A56EA-8078

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels: 8K0-959-792.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 959 792 R    HW: 8K0 959 792 P
   Component: TSG BF        H02 0510  
   Revision:             Serial number: 0000140225859 
   Coding: 011D13205E00440004
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: 4E990B7D19F6314EB3-801A

No fault code found.

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Address 53: Parking Brake (----)       Labels: 8K0-907-801-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 907 801 N    HW: 8K0 907 801 J
   Component: EPB-4         H02 0005  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 10000000514556
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ParkiBrake 001028
   ROD: EV_ParkiBrake_AU48.rod
   VCID: 3A7157ADBD7E8DEE7F-806E

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio (R)       Labels: Redir Fail!
   Part No SW: 4G0 035 082 G    HW: 4G0 035 082 
   Component: Radio U SIRIU H66 0133  
   Revision: AB001007    Serial number: 156C.0F8238172
   Coding: 020007010000000001
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: 244D89D527FAEB1E35-8070

No fault code found.

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Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794)       Labels: 4E0-035-6xx-5F.clb
   Part No SW: 8R1 035 746 G    HW: 8R1 035 746 G
   Component: H-BNT-NA      H42 0901  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 523C-0F7531943
   Coding: 160200060005A1EF55028B5E00000403140000000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: 3B7F52A9BA44B4E664-806E

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 8R0 060 884 CJ
   Component: NAR 2015  1102 

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8R0 919 604 A    HW: 8R0 919 604 A
   Component: DU7 High  H42 0104 

   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 8T0 919 611 L    HW: 8T0 919 611 C
   Component: E0380 Bedient  H02 0030 

   Subsystem 4 - Part No: 8R0 060 961 G
   Component: CD-Database  5950 

No fault code found.

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Address 62: Door, Rear Left (J388)       Labels: 8K0-959-795.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 959 795 G    HW: 8K0 959 795 D
   Component: TSG HL        H01 0510  
   Revision:             Serial number: 0000140748138 
   Coding: 010C13204000240004
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: 4689335DF186F90E0B-8012

No fault code found.

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Address 6C: Back-up Cam.        Labels: 8T0-907-441.clb
   Part No SW: 8R0 907 441 A    HW: 4L0 907 441 B
   Component: J772__Rearview      0040  
   Revision: --H09---    Serial number: 525PA8-JA1A1IO
   Coding: 1020010
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: 346D7995571A7B9EA5-8060

No fault code found.

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Address 6D: Trunk Elect. (J605)       Labels: Redir Fail!
   Part No SW: 8R0 827 851 D    HW: 8R0 827 851 D
   Component: J605  Master  H56 0330  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 8R0827851D    
   VCID: 3D7B5CB1A450BAD65A-8068

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8R0 827 852 D    HW: 8R0 827 852 D
   Component: J756  Slave  H56 0330 

No fault code found.

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Address 72: Door, Rear Right (J389)       Labels: 8K0-959-795.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 959 795 G    HW: 8K0 959 795 D
   Component: TSG HR        H01 0510  
   Revision:             Serial number: 0000140748392 
   Coding: 010C13204000240004
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: 4689335DF186F90E0B-8012

No fault code found.

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there is a noticeable difference when you change it it early. if you think it comes on too early now it will change even faster when set to early.
 
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I have done some additional digging and came up with the following post from Germany on an A3:
(source = http://www.stemei.de/pages/coding/audi-q3-8u/regensensor-und-lichtsensor-anpassen.php)

1. Select 09 (Central Electronics)
2. coding -> function 07
3. Select RLS - 1 - 8K0 955 xxx
4. Byte 1 = light sensor correction value
5. Byte 2 = rain sensor correction value

Value range respectively: 0 to 64.
Default: 56
Recommended: 0A = 10%

This sounds very promising to me, but I don't know how to interpret the suggestions. I've gone into that and here is the picture of my current coding:

f_51168381537


If anyone can help me with the bits & bytes I'd sure appreciate it!!!!
 
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Sorry, wrong format - here (I hope) is the picture!
f_51169658965
 
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OK, that didn't seem to work right either!

This time?

f_51169658965
 
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One more time - thanks for your help, Andy!

iHbYMOT
 
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3. Select RLS - 1 - 8K0 955 xxx
That is not the part number for the RLFS you have in your car!
Why don't you use Long Coding helper, it documented.
 
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And yet again - it's really going to work this time and I apologize to everyone about my lack of posting an image skills!!!!

http://i.imgur.com/iHbYMOT.jpg
 
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NEtech, I know it's not what's in my car, this was info from the link I posted. What I'm trying to do is understand what I need to change/click on to accomplish this - and I'm clearly not very knowledgeable about the VCDS system!
 
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Now we're getting somewhere. I think you might be missing the fact that you have to select the G397_RLFS from the pull-down before you can code it. The coding you're looking at is the main BCM module, not it's RLFS subsystem.

Here's a screen-shot from the manual which illustrates what I mean:

coding-slave.png


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Barrow the thread!
I want to do the same thing on My Audi A6 C7, has someone Done this?
 
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So, I had some time today and checked my car, and in the 09-Cent. Elec. the drop down to 2 -- RLFS -> long coding helper -> byte 0, the dropdown only has normal, 20% earlier, 40% earlier, and 60% earlier, nothing for later.
 
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So, I had some time today and checked my car, and in the 09-Cent. Elec. the drop down to 2 -- RLFS -> long coding helper -> byte 0, the dropdown only has normal, 20% earlier, 40% earlier, and 60% earlier, nothing for later.

DirtDriver: Alas, your observations are pretty-much standard
Don
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yes. you can change it to be more sensitive or less sensitive. i have enabled it to be more sensitive 20% more sensitive because the lights kick on usually when exiting the tunnel not entering then stay on once i am out.

i am going off the top of my head but i believe it is in 09 in the drop down section you can access RLS Regenlicht Sensor. there you will find percentage changes and adjust to suit your taste. if it is not there please let me know and i'll try to scan the car tomorrow to give better information.
 
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I would also be interested in how to adjust the sensor to be LESS sensitive, hence the auto lights to come on LATER...
 
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Just a point of clarification regarding the discussion about "early" or "late" settings of the light part of the RLS/RLHS/RLFS. Changing these settings appears to be relative to the actual threashold value that is set somewhere else in another control module - I believe.

In a mk7, this threashold value appears to be defined in a couple of adaptation channels in the BCM. For example, if the car is fitted with the high-end 5Q0 937 series BCM, the actual turn-on/turn-off threashold values can be accessed at the following channels:

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For the benefit of those that aren't familiar with the term "lx", it refers to the SI unit LUX which is a measurement of quantity of light falling onto a meter-square (those in USA might be more familiar with the term candela). Channel (1) in the table establishes the turn-on threashold (I used to use 500 lx as a nominal measurement for twilight in another incarnation) and channel (2) the turn-off threashold. So I suspect that "early", or "late" is relative to the 1st (or both) of these settings - I think.

Can anyone else shed any further light (pun intended) on this hypothesis?

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